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1. 01:37 AM - Re: Europa List; PFA Rally (G-IANI)
2. 01:37 AM - Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? (David Barraclough)
3. 06:32 AM - Re: Europa List; PFA Rally (Fergus Kyle)
4. 06:32 AM - Facet pumps info (Fergus Kyle)
5. 07:37 AM - Re:1st Annual Southeast Europa Fly In (Troy Maynor)
6. 11:12 AM - Contact details for NSI - as of 26th May 2004 (Pete Lawless)
7. 11:16 AM - Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? (hedley brown)
8. 12:39 PM - Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? (bryan allsop)
9. 12:40 PM - Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? (bryan allsop)
10. 04:48 PM - Re: Stab travel range (Rocketman)
11. 07:16 PM - Remove me (MikeReiman@webtv.net (The Reiman Corporation))
12. 09:04 PM - Speed fairings - XS Mono (Paul McAllister)
13. 09:41 PM - Re: Stab travel range ()
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| Subject: | Re: Europa List; PFA Rally |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Over the last few years the composite construction demonstration area at the
PFA Rally has been a little neglected. The Europa Club has been asked to
try and improve matters so we need volunteers!
First the bribery. You will get free entry to the Rally (all days + camping
if required) for doing two, two hour session (or equivalent). You will get
to keep the beautiful demonstration piece you produce. We hope to have
available suitable moulds for a (rear mounted) battery box, air vents etc
but please let me know if you want to make something else. This is a
perfect opportunity for those of you who want to make something small but
are deterred by having to buy new epoxy, glass etc. Volunteers for less
hours will be very welcome but PFA largess will not extend to free tickets.
What we need are two people at a time to man the stand. So why not do it
with a co-builder (or friend if you still have any). If you cannot persuade
a friend I will be happy to pair you up with some other suitably insane
aircraft builder. The proposed slot are 10.00 to 12.00, 12.00 to 14.00, and
14.00 to 16.00 on each of the three days (but we will try to arrange things
to fit your attendance).
The task will be to talk to those who visit the stand, answer questions and
to demonstrate working in composites. We are not expecting you to be give a
lecture on the subject just to talk to those attending about you experience.
We will provide some example pieces in various states of construction and we
expect to have a very nicely built Tri-gear fuselage (with the High Top
option) that you can show visitors round. It is complete with the top on
but unglazed and unpainted so you can see the work.
You do not have to make something specific but all the basis material and
equipment will be to hand. We do suggest you bring your own gloves (for
comfort but we will have disposables available if you forget), face masks,
overalls and any favourite mixing sticks etc.
Please let me know via e-mail or phone your name, preferred hours and
contact details
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trig ear
3 hour, 12 landings on the Hobbs
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk, or direct on g-iani@ntlworld.com
37 Willowmead Close, Woking, Surrey, GU21 3DN. Tel 01483 714096
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| Subject: | Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Barraclough" <David@dbarraclough.com>
When G-EXES is finished - I'll be there!!
Very soon I hope
DB
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
<info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
>
> It is noticeable that the Hat-droppers are almost entirely from the
Southern half of the country (UK that is)!
>
> This week we are 'dropping' in Yorkshire. Now, I can understand that some
from counties like (say) Lancashire may find it difficult to reconcile this
as a venue, there must surely be the odd Europa aviator from the county of
conception, at least, who could find their way to Sheffield, or Santoft.
>
> What is this SAYING about about my fellow Northerners???????
>
> Come on chaps, or I will have to start being nice to these Southerners.
Join in!
>
> Bryan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa List; PFA Rally |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Ian,
I hope you are successful in your quest. First, such a task is
an education in itself - always more to be learnt than taught. Second, this
is the kind of display that will interest those only just starting and with
many questions. Third, the endeavour as a whole gains a great deal from the
display of ordinary ('scuse me) folk getting on with it. Fourth, the lure of
free entry and good times with similarly-involved builders is much more
entertaining than just tramping the stalls.
Wished I could join you! perhaps next year!
Good luck,
Ferg
A064
----- Original Message -----
From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa List; PFA Rally
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
|
| Over the last few years the composite construction demonstration area at
the
| PFA Rally has been a little neglected. The Europa Club has been asked to
| try and improve matters so we need volunteers!
|
| First the bribery. You will get free entry to the Rally (all days +
camping
| if required) for doing two, two hour session (or equivalent). You will
get
| to keep the beautiful demonstration piece you produce. We hope to have
| available suitable moulds for a (rear mounted) battery box, air vents etc
| but please let me know if you want to make something else. This is a
| perfect opportunity for those of you who want to make something small but
| are deterred by having to buy new epoxy, glass etc. Volunteers for less
| hours will be very welcome but PFA largess will not extend to free
tickets.
|
| What we need are two people at a time to man the stand. So why not do it
| with a co-builder (or friend if you still have any). If you cannot
persuade
| a friend I will be happy to pair you up with some other suitably insane
| aircraft builder. The proposed slot are 10.00 to 12.00, 12.00 to 14.00,
and
| 14.00 to 16.00 on each of the three days (but we will try to arrange
things
| to fit your attendance).
|
| The task will be to talk to those who visit the stand, answer questions
and
| to demonstrate working in composites. We are not expecting you to be give
a
| lecture on the subject just to talk to those attending about you
experience.
| We will provide some example pieces in various states of construction and
we
| expect to have a very nicely built Tri-gear fuselage (with the High Top
| option) that you can show visitors round. It is complete with the top on
| but unglazed and unpainted so you can see the work.
|
| You do not have to make something specific but all the basis material and
| equipment will be to hand. We do suggest you bring your own gloves (for
| comfort but we will have disposables available if you forget), face masks,
| overalls and any favourite mixing sticks etc.
|
| Please let me know via e-mail or phone your name, preferred hours and
| contact details
|
| Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trig ear
| 3 hour, 12 landings on the Hobbs
| Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
| e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk, or direct on g-iani@ntlworld.com
| 37 Willowmead Close, Woking, Surrey, GU21 3DN. Tel 01483 714096
|
|
|
|
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| Subject: | Facet pumps info |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Please accept my thanks for having sent practical info on the mounting of
FACET pumps as requested in my recent query. I had lost the instructions,
but had a sample installation nearby (sans owner) to consult. Since
receiving the answer I have mounted the pair in acceptable sites and
appreciate the speed of reply. This forum is a wonder..................
To Nigel, Kingsley and Bob - much obliged!
ferg
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| Subject: | Re:1st Annual Southeast Europa Fly In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
Hi Doug,
My earlier reply was bounced back by your spam blocker, But yes I and my new
bride will be there. Not sure if Saturday or Sunday. Hoping to hit the day
the most Europas will be there. I will be driving in. See yall, and thanks
for doing this.
Troy Maynor
N120EU Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
"do not archive"
<<<If everyone that is coming could drop me an e-mail to confirm your
participation and to let me know how many will be in your party, I'd
appreciate it. This includes those of you who have contacted me or John
prior to now. There could have been changes to folks plans. Just trying to
get an accurate head count for food & beverage purchases.>>>
I've stopped 352 spam messages. You can too!
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| Subject: | Contact details for NSI - as of 26th May 2004 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Evening All
I spent a couple of hours with David Hunter at Kemble (UK) this
afternoon and have the following telephone number for NSI. From the UK
001 360 435 8109, David called this number and spoke to NSI within the
last hour. There is also an email at info@nsiaero.com
David also asks me to tell European NSI users that he has a range of
spare parts available in stock. David can be contacted on his mobile
07939-157426.
Regards
Pete
---
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| Subject: | Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "hedley brown" <hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
Waddya mean - I was there from Fishburn..H
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Barraclough" <David@dbarraclough.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Barraclough"
<David@dbarraclough.com>
>
> When G-EXES is finished - I'll be there!!
> Very soon I hope
> DB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: "europa club mail" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> >
> > It is noticeable that the Hat-droppers are almost entirely from the
> Southern half of the country (UK that is)!
> >
> > This week we are 'dropping' in Yorkshire. Now, I can understand that
some
> from counties like (say) Lancashire may find it difficult to reconcile
this
> as a venue, there must surely be the odd Europa aviator from the county of
> conception, at least, who could find their way to Sheffield, or Santoft.
> >
> > What is this SAYING about about my fellow Northerners???????
> >
> > Come on chaps, or I will have to start being nice to these Southerners.
> Join in!
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
And what a pleasure it was to see you there Hedley!
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "hedley brown" <hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "hedley brown"
<hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
>
> Waddya mean - I was there from Fishburn..H
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Barraclough" <David@dbarraclough.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Barraclough"
> <David@dbarraclough.com>
> >
> > When G-EXES is finished - I'll be there!!
> > Very soon I hope
> > DB
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> > To: "europa club mail" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> > <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> > >
> > > It is noticeable that the Hat-droppers are almost entirely from the
> > Southern half of the country (UK that is)!
> > >
> > > This week we are 'dropping' in Yorkshire. Now, I can understand that
> some
> > from counties like (say) Lancashire may find it difficult to reconcile
> this
> > as a venue, there must surely be the odd Europa aviator from the county
of
> > conception, at least, who could find their way to Sheffield, or Santoft.
> > >
> > > What is this SAYING about about my fellow Northerners???????
> > >
> > > Come on chaps, or I will have to start being nice to these
Southerners.
> > Join in!
> > >
> > > Bryan
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
WE look forward to that David! How long will that be?
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Barraclough" <David@dbarraclough.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Barraclough"
<David@dbarraclough.com>
>
> When G-EXES is finished - I'll be there!!
> Very soon I hope
> DB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: "europa club mail" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Weekday Fly-ins. Why no Northerners?
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> >
> > It is noticeable that the Hat-droppers are almost entirely from the
> Southern half of the country (UK that is)!
> >
> > This week we are 'dropping' in Yorkshire. Now, I can understand that
some
> from counties like (say) Lancashire may find it difficult to reconcile
this
> as a venue, there must surely be the odd Europa aviator from the county of
> conception, at least, who could find their way to Sheffield, or Santoft.
> >
> > What is this SAYING about about my fellow Northerners???????
> >
> > Come on chaps, or I will have to start being nice to these Southerners.
> Join in!
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stab travel range |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
Dan Bish wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com>
>
>Hi Ferg,
>
>I'm just now working on installing my mass balance tower and getting the stabs
correctly aligned. My problem is that even before installing the tower, with
the weights contacting the pitch push rod, I only get 12.8 deg. of trailing edge
up pitch. When I trial fit the tower, I get 9.6 deg trailing edge up and 6.5
deg trailing edge down. These measurements are when using the incidence setting
block. Should I use something else? I must be doing something wrong in my
measurements. Anyone who wants to throw in on this is welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Bish
>A144
>Tucson, AZ
>
>-------------------------------------------------
>Ferg wrote...
>
> However, just before fitting on the fuselage top, I took a last-minute
> test of stab travel and found that in intervening months the range of travel
> had reduced for some reason - and I got but 2.8deg nosedown and 11.6deg
> Noseup travel! The trim travel works well, but the stab itself has reduced
.
> As well, I found the counterweight travel did not allow full noseup
> travel, and I had not cut the trim slots long enough to permit full travel.
> I lengthened the slots 1/8inch and the slot problem receded.
> It was obvious I had failed to centre the TP18A swivelling rear end
of
> the counterweight arm to allow the arm to descend slightly into a happier
> area, so I removed the two AN-3 bolts at the back and swivelled the TP18A
> four turns shorter [1/8"]. Too much!
> So I calculated the ratios of TP18A turns (32thread) to front end travel
> of the counterweight and degrees of stab travel. At 2" +/- between aft bolts
> and 30" length of applicable c/w arm I figured one turn [1/32" travel] of
> TP18A equalled 1/2" change of countertweight position, and THAT equalled
> 2deg of stab position.
> I'm wondering if anyone else ran into this condition, and whether my
> calcs gibe with another's. If all is well, I will increase the travel of
the
> big pitch push rod to permit a greater range of stab travel [12deg to -4deg
> in the book].
> Any comments gratefully received.
> Cheers, Ferg
> A064
>
>
>
>
Dan,
All it took to get A055 into shape was to lower the stop on the
containment about 1/4". Travel is now +14 and -5. As stated earlier,
adjustment of the mass balance arm will add to one direction and
subtract from the other...
--
Jeff - A055
Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: MikeReiman@webtv.net (The Reiman Corporation)
Please remove me from your list. I have no plane.
Mike Reiman
The Reiman Corporation, CEO
2505 South Ocean Boulevard
Palm Beach, Florida 33480
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| Subject: | Speed fairings - XS Mono |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi All,
Has anyone made any before and after easements on what the speed fairings add to
the top speed on the XS Mono's ?
Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Stab travel range |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <n914rb@earthlink.net>
Thanks, I got it adjusted last night doing it that way. Did the lay-ups
tonight and hope to have it finished by end of the week.
Dan
A144
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocketman" <topglock@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stab travel range
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
>
> Dan Bish wrote:
>
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com>
> >
> >Hi Ferg,
> >
> >I'm just now working on installing my mass balance tower and getting the
stabs correctly aligned. My problem is that even before installing the
tower, with the weights contacting the pitch push rod, I only get 12.8 deg.
of trailing edge up pitch. When I trial fit the tower, I get 9.6 deg
trailing edge up and 6.5 deg trailing edge down. These measurements are when
using the incidence setting block. Should I use something else? I must be
doing something wrong in my measurements. Anyone who wants to throw in on
this is welcome.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Dan Bish
> >A144
> >Tucson, AZ
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------
> >Ferg wrote...
> >
> > However, just before fitting on the fuselage top, I took a last-minute
> > test of stab travel and found that in intervening months the range
of travel
> > had reduced for some reason - and I got but 2.8deg nosedown and
11.6deg
> > Noseup travel! The trim travel works well, but the stab itself has
reduced .
> > As well, I found the counterweight travel did not allow full
noseup
> > travel, and I had not cut the trim slots long enough to permit full
travel.
> > I lengthened the slots 1/8inch and the slot problem receded.
> > It was obvious I had failed to centre the TP18A swivelling rear
end of
> > the counterweight arm to allow the arm to descend slightly into a
happier
> > area, so I removed the two AN-3 bolts at the back and swivelled the
TP18A
> > four turns shorter [1/8"]. Too much!
> > So I calculated the ratios of TP18A turns (32thread) to front
end travel
> > of the counterweight and degrees of stab travel. At 2" +/- between
aft bolts
> > and 30" length of applicable c/w arm I figured one turn [1/32"
travel] of
> > TP18A equalled 1/2" change of countertweight position, and THAT
equalled
> > 2deg of stab position.
> > I'm wondering if anyone else ran into this condition, and
whether my
> > calcs gibe with another's. If all is well, I will increase the
travel of the
> > big pitch push rod to permit a greater range of stab travel [12deg
to -4deg
> > in the book].
> > Any comments gratefully received.
> > Cheers, Ferg
> > A064
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Dan,
>
> All it took to get A055 into shape was to lower the stop on the
> containment about 1/4". Travel is now +14 and -5. As stated earlier,
> adjustment of the mass balance arm will add to one direction and
> subtract from the other...
>
> --
> Jeff - A055
> Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
>
>
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