---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/27/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:50 AM - Re: Speed fairings - XS Mono (Neville Eyre) 2. 03:50 AM - PFA Rally (Graham Singleton) 3. 10:27 AM - Re: Speed fairings - XS Mono (Alan Stewart) 4. 04:39 PM - Re: Speed fairings - XS Mono (Jim Brown) 5. 06:08 PM - Re: Speed fairings - XS Mono (Cliff Shaw) 6. 06:25 PM - Europa Trailer Ball Hitch Size (rlborger) 7. 08:16 PM - Fw: Ultimate Off the cuff Hat Dropers! (R.C.Harrison) 8. 10:19 PM - Re: Speed fairings - XS Mono (Alan Stewart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:04 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono From: "Neville Eyre" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" Hi All, You get 9kts with the Mono speed kit, Cheers, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Subject: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi All, Has anyone made any before and after easements on what the speed fairings add to the top speed on the XS Mono's ? Thanks, Paul ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:17 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: PFA Rally --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton At 23:56 26/05/2004 -0700, you wrote: >PFA Rally > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" > >Ian, > Third, the endeavour as a whole gains a great deal from the >display of ordinary ('scuse me) folk getting on with it. Fourth, the lure of >free entry and good times with similarly-involved builders is much more >entertaining than just tramping the stalls. > Wished I could join you! perhaps next year! >Good luck, >Ferg Ferg the only reason I am going is in the hope of meeting you again! (and a few other folks too!) Guess I'll have to see you at Oskosh instead. Not this year though, I'm going to Rough River instead with Paul McA for the canard gathering. Back to the roots of the Europa story. Graham ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:11 AM PST US From: "Alan Stewart" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" Hi, I tried to measure the cruise speed improvement in my 912 Classic monowheel as accurately as possible, after fitting of the outrigger and tail wheel fairings. I made several runs on a triangular course, at different power settings, and worked out TAS by trigonometry. My measured speed improvement was certainly less than 5 knots. Alan --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi All, Has anyone made any before and after easements on what the speed fairings add to the top speed on the XS Mono's ? Thanks, Paul == == == == ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:42 PM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown Paul We have the XS mono wheel with a 914. After installing the speed fairings we picked up 2 or 3 knots at best. I thank that maby the tri -gear may show more improvement than the mono-wheel What about it, tri gear owners?????????? Jim Brown N398JB Alan Stewart wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" > > Hi, > > I tried to measure the cruise speed improvement in my 912 Classic > monowheel as accurately as possible, after fitting of the outrigger and > tail wheel fairings. > > I made several runs on a triangular course, at different power settings, > and worked out TAS by trigonometry. My measured speed improvement was > certainly less than 5 knots. > > Alan > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > > Hi All, > > Has anyone made any before and after easements on what the speed > fairings add to the top speed on the XS Mono's ? > > Thanks, Paul > > == > == > == > == > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:23 PM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" All I don't have the numbers, but the wheel pants sure do make a difference. I will post some number next week when I do some tests with and with out them. (weather permitting) The weather is doing its usual thing up here in the Pacific Northwest. Rain !!! Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono > --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown > > Paul > > We have the XS mono wheel with a 914. After installing the speed fairings we picked > up 2 or 3 knots at best. > > I thank that maby the tri -gear may show more improvement than the mono-wheel > > What about it, tri gear owners?????????? > > Jim Brown > N398JB > > Alan Stewart wrote: > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" > > > > Hi, > > > > I tried to measure the cruise speed improvement in my 912 Classic > > monowheel as accurately as possible, after fitting of the outrigger and > > tail wheel fairings. > > > > I made several runs on a triangular course, at different power settings, > > and worked out TAS by trigonometry. My measured speed improvement was > > certainly less than 5 knots. > > > > Alan > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone made any before and after easements on what the speed > > fairings add to the top speed on the XS Mono's ? > > > > Thanks, Paul > > > > == > > == > > == > > == > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:45 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Europa Trailer Ball Hitch Size From: rlborger --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger Europaphiles, Does anyone out there know the size of the ball hitch required for the Europa factory trailer? Looks like I will be bonding the top on N914XL this Monday, 31 May 2004. Thanks. Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S (65%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, working chapters 23 Fuselage Top, 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 29 Main Gear & 34 Door Latches. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:50 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: Fw: Ultimate Off the cuff Hat Dropers! --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Shit ! I forgot to change my address to ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Harrison Subject: Ultimate Off the cuff Hat Dropers! Hi! All. Bird Back serviced. Perth today AND BACK or bust !"!! Anyone else for it? Don't expect a reply from me 'cos I've gone!( ?IMC?) Regards Might see you there! Bob Harrison G-PTAG do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:49 PM PST US From: "Alan Stewart" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" That's very interesting. Without being explicit in my last posting, these are exactly the numbers I saw with my technique. Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: Speed fairings - XS Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown Paul We have the XS mono wheel with a 914. After installing the speed fairings we picked up 2 or 3 knots at best. I thank that maby the tri -gear may show more improvement than the mono-wheel What about it, tri gear owners?????????? Jim Brown N398JB Alan Stewart wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" > > Hi, > > I tried to measure the cruise speed improvement in my 912 Classic > monowheel as accurately as possible, after fitting of the outrigger and > tail wheel fairings. > > I made several runs on a triangular course, at different power settings, > and worked out TAS by trigonometry. My measured speed improvement was > certainly less than 5 knots. > > Alan > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > > Hi All, > > Has anyone made any before and after easements on what the speed > fairings add to the top speed on the XS Mono's ? > > Thanks, Paul > > == > == > == > == > == == == ==