Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/30/04


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:23 AM - Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton (William Mills)
     2. 01:33 AM - Re: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer (Pete Lawless)
     3. 01:42 AM - Re: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer (Duncan McFadyean)
     4. 05:56 AM - Re: Shell Advance VSX4 (Chris Beck)
     5. 06:27 AM - Re: Shell Advance VSX4 (Robert Berube)
     6. 07:12 AM - Re: Shell Advance VSX4 (Paul McAllister)
     7. 09:54 AM - Re: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer (nigel charles)
     8. 10:15 AM - Re: ASI Calibration (Rowland Carson)
     9. 11:08 AM - Re: Shell Advance VSX4 (rlborger)
    10. 11:53 AM - Re: Trimming the XS canoe (rlborger)
    11. 12:36 PM - Re: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton (bryan allsop)
    12. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: Shell Advance VSX4 (Cliff Shaw)
    13. 04:13 PM - Gel Coat (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
    14. 07:20 PM - Gel Coat (SteveD)
    15. 07:22 PM - Gel Coat (SteveD)
    16. 09:22 PM - Re: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton (William Mills)
    17. 09:27 PM - test - ignore (Andrew Sarangan)
    18. 09:52 PM - Re: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer (William Mills)
    19. 11:51 PM - Re: Gel Coat (Gerry Holland)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:23:03 AM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
    Subject: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> Hi Hat Droppers, As the weather of late has been much better than forecasted, I am suggesting Wolverhampton for tomorrow. Might have to skirt the odd shower. Venue is good as is the grub. Might see Kev if he is about. If the weather is unflyable and nobody can make it, can someone else choose the next venue. I can't make Tuesday or Wednesday and then I am off on Dave Buzz's Scandinavian Trip. Hope to see some of you tomorrow. Best wishes, William


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    Time: 01:33:19 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info> William This is entirely 'hear say' but I thought the sensor was a standard bit out of the RS Components catalogue. AFE, what was RD Aviation, at Oxford should be able to tell you they used to supply them. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Mills Subject: Europa-List: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" --> <combined.merchants@virgin.net> Does anyone have a contact for Benwick FM 1053 fuel flow computer spares in the UK? In particular I would like to change the fuel flow sensor unit. Is it a standard item, or is it commissioned specially for Benwick? Many thanks, William == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ---


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    Time: 01:42:02 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Don't do it! Put a proper flow sensor on; one that has far less risk of constriction and blockage. ie a Flowscan sensor. Duncan McF ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> Subject: Europa-List: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer > --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> > > Does anyone have a contact for Benwick FM 1053 fuel flow computer spares in the UK? In particular I would like to change the fuel flow sensor unit. Is it a standard item, or is it commissioned specially for Benwick? > Many thanks, > William > >


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    Time: 05:56:48 AM PST US
    From: Chris Beck <n9zes@execpc.com>
    Subject: Re: Shell Advance VSX4
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck <n9zes@execpc.com> Hi, Paul! Any of the motorcycle specific oils will work in the Rotax application - Castrol, Valvoline, etc. Just hit up your local shop (not usually a Harley dealer - they run some much heavier weight oil) and get some good stuff. Motul is also an excellent brand. From what I've read, using auto oils can cause problems in the Rotax as well as the motorcycles with the friction modifiers causing the clutches to slip. A synthetic oil would also be best for the 914 due to the turbo bearings being cooked with heat after shutdown. Best, Chris Paul McAllister wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Kevin, > > This is one of the oils recommended in the Rotax service bulletin > SI-18-1997R4. I am using Valvoline Durablend, however the motorbike oils > are far more desirable because they have a gear additive in them. > Unfortunately I am beginning to conclude that the Shell VSX4 is not sold in > the US. > > Paul > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> >> >>Hi Paul, is this the good stuff to use in the 914? >>Congrat's on getting in the air. Are you hanging out at the airport a lot >>more now? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul > > McAllister > >>To: europa-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 >> >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" >><paul.mcallister@qia.net> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Doe anyone one know of a mail order house that I could purchase this > > product > >>from in the US. I have tried a couple of the local motor bike shops with >>out any luck. >> >>Paul >> >> > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 06:27:20 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Shell Advance VSX4
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com> Check with Rotax on the recommended oils. There has been a change on some of the recommended 4 cycle motorcycle oils. I believe that Valvoline Dura Blend is still recommended. Regards, Bob Berube N166BB -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Beck Subject: Re: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 --> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck <n9zes@execpc.com> Hi, Paul! Any of the motorcycle specific oils will work in the Rotax application - Castrol, Valvoline, etc. Just hit up your local shop (not usually a Harley dealer - they run some much heavier weight oil) and get some good stuff. Motul is also an excellent brand. From what I've read, using auto oils can cause problems in the Rotax as well as the motorcycles with the friction modifiers causing the clutches to slip. A synthetic oil would also be best for the 914 due to the turbo bearings being cooked with heat after shutdown. Best, Chris Paul McAllister wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Kevin, > > This is one of the oils recommended in the Rotax service bulletin > SI-18-1997R4. I am using Valvoline Durablend, however the motorbike oils > are far more desirable because they have a gear additive in them. > Unfortunately I am beginning to conclude that the Shell VSX4 is not sold in > the US. > > Paul > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> >> >>Hi Paul, is this the good stuff to use in the 914? >>Congrat's on getting in the air. Are you hanging out at the airport a lot >>more now? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul > > McAllister > >>To: europa-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 >> >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" >><paul.mcallister@qia.net> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Doe anyone one know of a mail order house that I could purchase this > > product > >>from in the US. I have tried a couple of the local motor bike shops with >>out any luck. >> >>Paul >> >> > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 07:12:09 AM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: Shell Advance VSX4
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Bob, You are correct, in the new service bulletin Motul and Castrol have been removed from the list of approved oils. I have a note into Lockwood to ask there opinion, if anything comes back I'll post it. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com> > > Check with Rotax on the recommended oils. There has been a change on some > of the recommended 4 cycle motorcycle oils. I believe that Valvoline Dura > Blend is still recommended. > > Regards, > Bob Berube N166BB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Beck > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck <n9zes@execpc.com> > > Hi, Paul! > > Any of the motorcycle specific oils will work in the Rotax application - > Castrol, Valvoline, etc. Just hit up your local shop (not usually a > Harley dealer - they run some much heavier weight oil) and get some good > stuff. Motul is also an excellent brand. > > From what I've read, using auto oils can cause problems in the Rotax as > well as the motorcycles with the friction modifiers causing the clutches > to slip. > > A synthetic oil would also be best for the 914 due to the turbo bearings > being cooked with heat after shutdown. > > Best, > > Chris > > > Paul McAllister wrote: > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > > > Kevin, > > > > This is one of the oils recommended in the Rotax service bulletin > > SI-18-1997R4. I am using Valvoline Durablend, however the motorbike oils > > are far more desirable because they have a gear additive in them. > > Unfortunately I am beginning to conclude that the Shell VSX4 is not sold > in > > the US. > > > > Paul > > > > do not archive > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> > > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 > > > > > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> > >> > >>Hi Paul, is this the good stuff to use in the 914? > >>Congrat's on getting in the air. Are you hanging out at the airport a lot > >>more now? > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > >>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul > > > > McAllister > > > >>To: europa-list@matronics.com > >>Subject: Europa-List: Shell Advance VSX4 > >> > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > >><paul.mcallister@qia.net> > >> > >>Hi all, > >> > >>Doe anyone one know of a mail order house that I could purchase this > > > > product > > > >>from in the US. I have tried a couple of the local motor bike shops with > >>out any luck. > >> > >>Paul > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:54:41 AM PST US
    From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk> >Don't do it! Put a proper flow sensor on; one that has far less risk of constriction and blockage. ie a Flowscan sensor.< I totally agree with Duncan. The Floscan is far superior. Paddy found that it was impossible to satisfy the fuel flow test with the restriction of the Benwick sender. If you take one apart you will be horrified to see how small the aperture is. Conversely the Floscan causes minimal flow restriction. If my memory is correct the pressure loss @15gall/hr and the impellor stalled is only 0.15psi. As it is suitable for much higher fuel flows restriction should not be an issue. In terms of accuracy Paddy and I are both recording figures of less than 0.1% which is well within their quoted accuracy of 2%. Nigel


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    Time: 10:15:31 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Re: ASI Calibration
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2004 05 29 22:45 -0500 Paul McAllister wrote: >I did a bunch of runs today at various IAS to collect data so I >could determine my ASI error. For some reason I thought I was >supposed to fly 3 headings for each speed (120 degrees apart) noting >the GPS speed for each. When I downloaded Dave Bosomworth >spreadsheet from John Cliff's web site I discovered I was supposed >to collect the data for 4 headings, not 3. Paul - not sure about the version on John Cliff's site, but if you take a look in the "calculations" folder of the Europa Club CD (sent to you when you joined last year), you'll find several flavours of this calculation, all of which require only 3 tracks. If you haven't flown exact cardinal tracks (ie N S E W) then the one to use is Doug Gray's which simply requires 3 widely-separated tracks. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (700 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>


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    Time: 11:08:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shell Advance VSX4
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> Paul, I located the Shell Advance Website (http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=advance-en). There is a "Shell Advance in your country" selection. I went there and they did not list any country in North America (Canada, Mexico or U.S.A.). Just out of curiosity, I queried them under their "Contact us" section. If I receive a reply, I will post it. I sure would like some good suggestions on what to put in the oil tank of my 914 when the time comes. Good building and wonderful flying to all, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S (65%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, working chapters 23 Fuselage Top, 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 29 Main Gear & 34 Door Latches. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117


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    Time: 11:53:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trimming the XS canoe
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> Brian, If you get your eye down close to the fuselage flange and look down the length of the fuselage, you can make out the line fairly well. You should be able to see the line on the tail flange this way as well. The line on the angle up from fuselage to tail is a lot harder to see but is there. Personally, I left a radius at the firewall juncture and on the interior angle from the fuselage to the angled portion. I don't like the potential for stress risers that a sharp angle might leave. Good building, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S (65%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, working chapters 23 Fuselage Top, 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 29 Main Gear & 34 Door Latches. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117


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    Time: 12:36:41 PM PST US
    From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk> Is Wolverhamton a freebie somewhere? Otherwise it used to be 13. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> Subject: Europa-List: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton > --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> > > Hi Hat Droppers, > > As the weather of late has been much better than forecasted, I am suggesting Wolverhampton for tomorrow. Might have to skirt the odd shower. Venue is good as is the grub. Might see Kev if he is about. > If the weather is unflyable and nobody can make it, can someone else choose the next venue. I can't make Tuesday or Wednesday and then I am off on Dave Buzz's Scandinavian Trip. > > Hope to see some of you tomorrow. Best wishes, > > William > >


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    Time: 04:10:45 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Shell Advance VSX4
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> All I looked it up on Rotax web page. http://www.rotax-owner.com/sdocs.htm Look for SI-18-1997-R4 . Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 ----- Original Message ----- From: "rlborger" <rlborger@mac.com> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Shell Advance VSX4 > --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> > > Paul, > > I located the Shell Advance Website > (http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=advance-en). There is a > "Shell Advance in your country" selection. I went there and they did > not list any country in North America (Canada, Mexico or U.S.A.). Just > out of curiosity, I queried them under their "Contact us" section. If > I receive a reply, I will post it. > > I sure would like some good suggestions on what to put in the oil tank > of my 914 when the time comes. > > Good building and wonderful flying to all, > Bob Borger > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S > (65%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch > system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, > working chapters 23 Fuselage Top, 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, > 29 Main Gear & 34 Door Latches. > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208 > Home: 940-497-2123 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > >


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    Time: 04:13:57 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Gel Coat
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good Day All, For those that have recently finished their aircraft painting......what did you do about the gel coat that covers the wings and fuselage? Sand it off? Roughen it only? Not near that point but inquiring minds, you know. Also, is anyone else having to wait months to receive parts from Europa? I'm going on thirteen weeks for the electric flap actuator for the Mod 68. It seems a bit long. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear CM & rudder pedals with cables installed. Tailwheel complete. Wing pins and tie bar installed. Working on baggage bay. Conventional gear being assembled now. Waiting thirteen weeks now for Mod 68 Flap Actuator to ship.


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    Time: 07:20:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Gel Coat
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> test test test ---------------- EuropaOwnersForum (http://forum.okhuijsen.org/), Europa builders, photo Gallery and more.


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    Time: 07:22:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Gel Coat
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> tets tets s ---------------- EuropaOwnersForum (http://forum.okhuijsen.org/), Europa builders, photo Gallery and more.


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    Time: 09:22:45 PM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
    Subject: Re: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> Yes, Pilot Magazine. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - Wolverhampton > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk> > > Is Wolverhamton a freebie somewhere? Otherwise it used to be 13. > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: Hat Droppers - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May - > Wolverhampton > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" > <combined.merchants@virgin.net> > > > > Hi Hat Droppers, > > > > As the weather of late has been much better than forecasted, I am > suggesting Wolverhampton for tomorrow. Might have to skirt the odd shower. > Venue is good as is the grub. Might see Kev if he is about. > > If the weather is unflyable and nobody can make it, can someone else > choose the next venue. I can't make Tuesday or Wednesday and then I am off > on Dave Buzz's Scandinavian Trip. > > > > Hope to see some of you tomorrow. Best wishes, > > > > William > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:27:51 PM PST US
    Subject: test - ignore
    From: "Andrew Sarangan" <europaxs@myrealbox.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andrew Sarangan" <europaxs@myrealbox.com> test


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    Time: 09:52:33 PM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
    Subject: Re: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net> Many thanks for the replies, Pete, Duncan and Nigel. I was unaware of this knowledge about Benwick, but I must say I have never seen a drop in fuel pressure (sample point down stream of Benwick) at full throttle (mine's the 912). Where can I buy a Flowscan sensor and are they directly interchangeable, or do I have to throw the Benwick unit away? Regards, William ----- Original Message ----- From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Benwick FM 1053 Fuel Flow Computer > --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk> > > >Don't do it! > Put a proper flow sensor on; one that has far less risk of constriction and > blockage. ie a Flowscan sensor.< > > I totally agree with Duncan. The Floscan is far superior. Paddy found that > it was impossible to satisfy the fuel flow test with the restriction of the > Benwick sender. If you take one apart you will be horrified to see how small > the aperture is. Conversely the Floscan causes minimal flow restriction. If > my memory is correct the pressure loss @15gall/hr and the impellor stalled > is only 0.15psi. As it is suitable for much higher fuel flows restriction > should not be an issue. In terms of accuracy Paddy and I are both recording > figures of less than 0.1% which is well within their quoted accuracy of 2%. > > Nigel > >


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    Time: 11:51:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gel Coat
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Mike Hi! > > For those that have recently finished their aircraft painting......what did > you do about the gel coat that covers the wings and fuselage? Sand it off? > Roughen it only? My painting is now complete and the following actions concerned Gel-coat. I had originally applied Polyfiber Super prime to Wings and Fuselage after sanding back Gel coat to flat/roughened condition. When the same parts arrived at Paint Shop (Composite Aircraft/Glider Repair and Paint Company) they were processed again with most of the Super prime and gel-coat being removed prior to the primer they use. Everything was primed and flattened back and then painted on 2 pack Acrylic, in fact BMW base white. This makes matching in at any point later much easier it seems. The bottom half of Fuselage was painted 'flat' Silver in exactly the same way but lacquered in some way to ensure consistency of 'silver'. All this done with the Europa held on a 'spit' and turned as required! The reason to attack gel-coat was to get a good paint 'key' and also to remove any residue from original gel-coat process. Interestingly enough the guy who owns and worked on Aircraft has more than 20 years experience of composite products and prefers that owners of Kit built Aircraft just send them as completed without any action around preparing for painting. His point being that he cannot rely on the process or sometimes the products used. Saying that.... He has one or two Europa's that were prepared in Super prime and other processes and have turned out well over past 5 years and endured. I filled and primed all my Control surfaces and they were processed at this same Company and turned out very well. They were completed 4 years ago and stored and I've seen no problems other than me dropping Tailplane and creating a very unpleasant 'ding'. No repaired! I'm pleased with the finish of mine. Others may judge otherwise. I have fitted the shoulder width Mod that entails cutting out and gluing in a replacement interior bottom Panel to each Door. I was made to sand back the Doors skins until NO trace of sheen from Gel coat was present. The 2 interior skins took a full day to get to that condition and will be painted using an epoxy coating/paint as used in Grob Aircraft. It comes as a two pack and will be 'rolled' on. Extremely hard finish. The whole interior was sanded and finished in this way too even though it will have full interior fitment. Hope that makes sense. Regarding Europa supply chain. If you haven't done so E-mail Ray Bedford at Europa: ray@europa-aircraft.com He has always sorted things out for me. If necessary ask where it comes from or what it is and try another Supplier in US.




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