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Sat 06/12/04


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 01:05 AM - Seating (David Corbett)
     2. 03:22 AM - Re: Seats (Ami McFadyean)
     3. 03:55 AM - Re: Seats (Gerry Holland)
     4. 11:51 AM - Re: Seats (Ami McFadyean)
     5. 12:17 PM - Re: Seats (Cliff Shaw)
     6. 01:47 PM - Re: Seats (Ami McFadyean)
     7. 02:09 PM - Re: Seats (Cliff Shaw)
     8. 02:33 PM - Re: Seats (Rocketman)
     9. 02:51 PM - Fw: First flight (Rowland Carson)
    10. 09:00 PM - First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Tim Ward)
    11. 09:16 PM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Paul McAllister)
    12. 09:20 PM - Feedback problem with the radio (Paul McAllister)
    13. 09:31 PM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Tim Ward)
    14. 09:52 PM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Kevin Klinefelter)
    15. 10:04 PM - FL13 spacer (Andrew Sarangan)
    16. 10:28 PM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Paul Boulet)
    17. 11:12 PM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Bill & Sue Sisley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:05:09 AM PST US
    From: "David Corbett" <David.Corbett@fwi.co.uk>
    Subject: Seating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <David.Corbett@fwi.co.uk> Hi, Ferg My seats also have dynafoam as the bottom part of the seay cushion; they are specially shaped to fit around all the bits and pieces that get in the way, as do the separate seat backs. The pilot's seat back is thinner than the co-pilot's - because of a long leg problem! However, no discomfort on 3-4 hour legs. I have never specificall taken photo's of the seats, but could do so and e-mail them to you off forum if you like (the forum cannot accept attachments). Let me know, David G-BZAM - 250 hrs


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    Time: 03:22:49 AM PST US
    From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> I would fully recommend the principles expounded at http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/interior/Carving%20Foam%20 Seats.html (or look in Sport Aviation 08/90 for the original article) having now built up to about Mk 10 of seat cushions for the Europa. Flat squabs (no matter how well laminated with different densities of Dynafoam) don't work for me and become a pain in the tailbone after an hour or so. This is after covering over the seat area in the inner module so that the aileron torque tube tunnel does not present a hardspot. What has worked well is the squab from a computer chair. This has a bowl-shaped plywood base and inch or so of high density foam. It cost nothing and is perhaps not the long term hardware, but confirms what to aim for in terms of shape. If seats are too fully moulded, then one is constrained to sit in the same place all of the time, which can be tiresome. Duncan McF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> Subject: Europa-List: Seats > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> > > I have a super sample of upholstery in a fellow builder's Europa, but cannot > possibly duplicate his artistry. nevertheless, am keen to build in 2 seats > which are comfortable, secure and safe (in that I entend to base the bottoms > in styrofoam pellets, after the experience of Graham Singleton). > Are there any photos or drawings 'out there' of feasible seating for > an XS cockpit in a Classic fuselage? I have tried searching the forum but > nowhere else. > Cheers, Ferg A064 > >


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    Time: 03:55:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Seats
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Duncan Hi! > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/interior/Carving%20Foam%20 > Seats.html Many Thanks for pointing in this direction. It was today's subject or task to consider and has expounded some good advice. Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Engine and Prop getting near to starting. Final pipework. Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. Completing Wiring to Panel. Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. Shoulder Width Mod completed. Heater Unit idea is firming up. http://www.g-fizy.com +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com


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    Time: 11:51:24 AM PST US
    From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Another subtlety in seat design can be found at http://www.oregonaero.com/p19_2001.htm#drawings where a wedge of foam along the BACK edge of the seat squab makes a mountain of difference to long term comfort. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seats > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > > Duncan Hi! > > > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/interior/Carving%20Foam%20 > > Seats.html > > Many Thanks for pointing in this direction. It was today's subject or task > to consider and has expounded some good advice. > > Regards > > Gerry > > Europa 384 G-FIZY > Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. > Engine and Prop getting near to starting. Final pipework. > Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. > Completing Wiring to Panel. > Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. > Shoulder Width Mod completed. Heater Unit idea is firming up. > > http://www.g-fizy.com > +44 7808 402404 > gnholland@onetel.com > >


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    Time: 12:17:15 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> All The Oregonaero design is what I followed. I don't know if I did it exactly, but after 2 hours of flying , I don't have any urge to get out of the plane. The seats in "Wile E. Coyote" are the best I have ever set in !!!! Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seats > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> > > Another subtlety in seat design can be found at > > http://www.oregonaero.com/p19_2001.htm#drawings > > where a wedge of foam along the BACK edge of the seat squab makes a > mountain of difference to long term comfort. > > Duncan McF. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seats > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > > > > Duncan Hi! > > > > > > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/interior/Carving%20Foam%20 > > > Seats.html > > > > Many Thanks for pointing in this direction. It was today's subject or task > > to consider and has expounded some good advice. > > > > Regards > > > > Gerry > > > > Europa 384 G-FIZY > > Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. > > Engine and Prop getting near to starting. Final pipework. > > Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. > > Completing Wiring to Panel. > > Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. > > Shoulder Width Mod completed. Heater Unit idea is firming up. > > > > http://www.g-fizy.com > > +44 7808 402404 > > gnholland@onetel.com > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:47:04 PM PST US
    From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Can you post some more details please. Duncan McF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seats > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> > > All > > The Oregonaero design is what I followed. I don't know if I did it exactly, > but after 2 hours of flying , I don't have any urge to get out of the plane. > The seats in "Wile E. Coyote" are the best I have ever set in !!!! > > Cliff Shaw > 1041 Euclid ave. > Edmonds, WA 98020 > 425 776 5555 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seats > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" > <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > Another subtlety in seat design can be found at > > > > http://www.oregonaero.com/p19_2001.htm#drawings > > > > where a wedge of foam along the BACK edge of the seat squab makes a > > mountain of difference to long term comfort. > > > > Duncan McF. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com> > > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seats > > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > > > > > > Duncan Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/interior/Carving%20Foam%20 > > > > Seats.html > > > > > > Many Thanks for pointing in this direction. It was today's subject or > task > > > to consider and has expounded some good advice. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > Europa 384 G-FIZY > > > Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. > > > Engine and Prop getting near to starting. Final pipework. > > > Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. > > > Completing Wiring to Panel. > > > Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA > Fitted. > > > Shoulder Width Mod completed. Heater Unit idea is firming up. > > > > > > http://www.g-fizy.com > > > +44 7808 402404 > > > gnholland@onetel.com > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:09:01 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Duncan McF See page 37 in AS&S catalog. I tried to follow the Oregonaero design concepts. (wedge under the seat bottom at back) See their web page of catalog. The foam makes the difference. It is worth ever dollar it costs. (and it cost a lot of dollars) I used the three layer 3" on the "sporty" side and 2" on my side. I love it. Cliff


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    Time: 02:33:35 PM PST US
    From: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net> Ami McFadyean wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> > >I would fully recommend the principles expounded at > >http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/interior/Carving%20Foam%20 >Seats.html > >(or look in Sport Aviation 08/90 for the original article) having now built >up to about Mk 10 of seat cushions for the Europa. > >Flat squabs (no matter how well laminated with different densities of >Dynafoam) don't work for me and become a pain in the tailbone after an hour >or so. This is after covering over the seat area in the inner module so that >the aileron torque tube tunnel does not present a hardspot. > >What has worked well is the squab from a computer chair. This has a >bowl-shaped plywood base and inch or so of high density foam. It cost >nothing and is perhaps not the long term hardware, but confirms what to aim >for in terms of shape. > >If seats are too fully moulded, then one is constrained to sit in the same >place all of the time, which can be tiresome. > >Duncan McF > > > > Very good reference. Thanks Duncan... -- Rocketman - RM Holsters: http://www.rmholsters.com FAL Gal Concealment Goods: http://www.falgal.com Ballistic Review: http://www.ballisticreview.com Aircraft Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com


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    Time: 02:51:53 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Fwd: First flight
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> News of another first flight forwarded FYI: >Delivered-To: europaclub-memsec@europaclub.org.uk >Subject: First flight >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:52:06 +0200 > >Dear Builders, >Another bird took the skys this 11th june at 11 a.m. After 5 years >of intermittent building the XS monowheel # 382 OO-145 with >Airmaster CS propeller driven by a Rotax 912ULS needed only 200 m >for a silent take off. After an hour and six nearly perfect landings >Dirk Oyen looked like those enlighted owners who descend from heaven. > >With thanks to all the people who helped and encouraged him. >Karel Vranken # 447 F-PKRL, nearly so far. Congratulations to Dirk! regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>


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    Time: 09:00:11 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    <jenni@avsure.co.nz>, "Jane Stillwell" <jstillwell@btconnect.com>, "Ian Bentham" <ian@ianbentham.org>, "Greg&Tonia Clarke" <greg.tonia@xtra.co.nz>, "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
    Subject: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was confident. With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up and now 'let the truth be told'. The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise rudder balance good and elevator very effective. Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as expected. Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, and we are still together at the end of the build!!! A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by the family , is well worth waiting for. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph 0064 3 3515166 ward.t@xtra.co.nz


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    Time: 09:16:35 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Tim, Warmest congratulations. - Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> <jenni@avsure.co.nz>; "Jane Stillwell" <jstillwell@btconnect.com>; "Ian Bentham" <ian@ianbentham.org>; "Greg&Tonia Clarke" <greg.tonia@xtra.co.nz>; "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com> Subject: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> > > > Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". > ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was confident. > With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up and now 'let the truth be told'. > The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise rudder balance good and elevator very effective. > Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. > Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as expected. > Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. > Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, and we are still together at the end of the build!!! > A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. > Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by the family , is well worth waiting for. > > Cheers, > Tim > Tim Ward > 12 Waiwetu Street, > Fendalton, > Christchurch, 8005 > New Zealand. > Ph 0064 3 3515166 > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > >


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    Time: 09:20:40 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Feedback problem with the radio
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi All, I have an odd problem with my GX60 when trying to transmit. I found it would start oscillating, it would start with an echo and then break into full audio feedback, similar to as what a PA system does when the microphone is too close to the speaker. I fooled with the problem for the longest time and I finally narrowed it down to my LightSpeed headsets. I called LightSpeed and sure enough they knew about the problem. They invited me to send the headsets back and they would fit a new shielded battery box. They came back and they "sorta" worked, but unfortunately they would still do it. A this point I resigned myself to using my Telex 3500's. These always seemed to work, but today they started to exhibit the same problem... now I am in a bit of a quandary on how to trouble shoot this problem. I do not have an audio panel at this time, I am using the internal intercom in the GX60. Does anyone have any ideas where to head with this. Paul


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    Time: 09:31:41 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> Paul, Warmest congratulations to you too, well done! Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph 0064 3 3515166 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Tim, > > Warmest congratulations. - Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> > To: <ann-nev@xtra.co.nz>; "Neville Eyre" <neville@europa-aircraft.com>; > <jenni@avsure.co.nz>; "Jane Stillwell" <jstillwell@btconnect.com>; "Ian > Bentham" <ian@ianbentham.org>; "Greg&Tonia Clarke" <greg.tonia@xtra.co.nz>; > "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com> > Subject: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> > > > > > > Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system > enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". > > ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and > High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have > to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within > the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I > was confident. > > With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up > and now 'let the truth be told'. > > The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager > to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid > acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail > was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts > and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster > Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and > gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach > always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A > little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise > rudder balance good and elevator very effective. > > Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ > retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of > the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was > sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was > sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. > > Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. > This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I > changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the > same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as > expected. > > Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it > back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. > > Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the > building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; > Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I > married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, > and we are still together at the end of the build!!! > > A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and > Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. > > Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by > the family , is well worth waiting for. > > > > Cheers, > > Tim > > Tim Ward > > 12 Waiwetu Street, > > Fendalton, > > Christchurch, 8005 > > New Zealand. > > Ph 0064 3 3515166 > > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:52:55 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
    Subject: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> Way to go Tim! Congratulations. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Ward Ian Bentham; Greg Andy Draper Subject: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was confident. With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up and now 'let the truth be told'. The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise rudder balance good and elevator very effective. Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as expected. Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, and we are still together at the end of the build!!! A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by the family , is well worth waiting for. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph 0064 3 3515166 ward.t@xtra.co.nz


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    Time: 10:04:49 PM PST US
    From: Andrew Sarangan <andrew_europa@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: FL13 spacer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <andrew_europa@yahoo.com> FL13 are the spacers used in the aileron bolt assembly. But my kit does not have any FL13. Instead, I have a spacer labelled FL23 (only one, not two). Any ideas what is going on? I am assuming FL23 is the same as FL13. But why only one? Am I missing a part, or is only one spacer needed? __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 10:28:04 PM PST US
    From: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com> Hey Tim; you beat me to it! I'm scheduled to test fly this coming Thursday....so hope to report success! Much congratulations! Paul Boulet, N914PB, Malibu, California Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was confident. With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up and now 'let the truth be told'. The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise rudder balance good and elevator very effective. Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as expected. Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, and we are still together at the end of the build!!! A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by the family , is well worth waiting for. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph 0064 3 3515166 ward.t@xtra.co.nz


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    Time: 11:12:07 PM PST US
    From: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz> Tim, Well done! I know how great you will feel after all this time. We are just back from 9 weeks in the UK, Europe and the US and although I did a little of flying (including some in a Europa in the UK) I have really missed my plane. Have now done about 5 hrs since getting back last Wednesday. Flying in this big high that is over us now is just wonderful. Hope to get to meet you one day soon. Again, congratulations. With very best regards. Sue and Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> <jenni@avsure.co.nz>; "Jane Stillwell" <jstillwell@btconnect.com>; "Ian Bentham" <ian@ianbentham.org>; "Greg&Tonia Clarke" <greg.tonia@xtra.co.nz>; "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com> Subject: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> > > > Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". > ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was confident. > With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up and now 'let the truth be told'. > The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise rudder balance good and elevator very effective. > Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. > Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as expected. > Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. > Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, and we are still together at the end of the build!!! > A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. > Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by the family , is well worth waiting for. > > Cheers, > Tim > Tim Ward > 12 Waiwetu Street, > Fendalton, > Christchurch, 8005 > New Zealand. > Ph 0064 3 3515166 > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > >




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