---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/13/04: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:27 AM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Ed) 2. 02:15 AM - Re: FL13 spacer (Simon Smith) 3. 04:34 AM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Karel Vranken) 4. 04:52 AM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Gerry Holland) 5. 04:59 AM - Re: : First flights of F-PKRL & ZK-TIM (rlborger) 6. 05:23 AM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (Richard Holder) 7. 06:38 AM - Re: Seating (EuropaXSA276@aol.com) 8. 06:59 AM - Fuselage cradle build plans? (EuropaXSA276@aol.com) 9. 07:27 AM - Re: Fuselage cradle build plans? (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com) 10. 07:39 AM - Re: Fuselage cradle build plans? Tri gear (EuropaXSA276@aol.com) 11. 08:33 AM - Re: Fuselage cradle build plans? (n3eu@comcast.net) 12. 11:02 AM - Fw: Fw: First flight (R.C.Harrison) 13. 11:02 AM - Fw: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (R.C.Harrison) 14. 12:46 PM - Re: Feedback problem with the radio (Fergus Kyle) 15. 12:47 PM - FL13 spacer (SteveD) 16. 12:58 PM - Re: Seats (Fergus Kyle) 17. 02:40 PM - Re: FL13 spacer (Rowland Carson) 18. 04:12 PM - Re: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic (JR (Bob) Gowing) 19. 05:37 PM - Re: FL13 spacer (Andrew Sarangan) 20. 08:50 PM - Re: Feedback problem with the radio (Paul McAllister) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic From: Ed --> Europa-List message posted by: Ed Hi Tim Congratulations, that is excellent news. 840lbs is very light. Well done. Happy flying Eddie G-SELF On the home straight now. on 13/6/04 4:58 am, Tim Ward at ward.t@xtra.co.nz wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" > > > Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped > the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:15:15 AM PST US From: "Simon Smith" Subject: RE: Europa-List: FL13 spacer --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" FL23 is the spacer for the flap hinges in the bottom of the fuselage. You should have two of them. (see the diagram of the flag system in sec. 28). Simon -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan Subject: Europa-List: FL13 spacer --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan --> FL13 are the spacers used in the aileron bolt assembly. But my kit does not have any FL13. Instead, I have a spacer labelled FL23 (only one, not two). Any ideas what is going on? I am assuming FL23 is the same as FL13. But why only one? Am I missing a part, or is only one spacer needed? __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/ advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:54 AM PST US From: "Karel Vranken" Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karel Vranken" Congratulations Tim and family. At the same time I can announce the first flight of Dirk Oyen's XS monowheel #382 with Airmaster CS and Rotax 912ULS, empty weight: 843 lbs, nearly six years of building and renovating a house meanwhile. The maidenflight took place on june 11th in Hasselt EBZH Belgium where OO-145 performed as Tim already described. Well done men! (Paul included) Karel Vranken # 447 F-PKRL joining you lucky guys very soon I hope. >From: "Tim Ward" >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com >To: , "Neville Eyre" , >, "Jane Stillwell" , "Ian >Bentham" , "Greg&Tonia Clarke" >, "Andy Draper" >Subject: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic >Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:58:56 +1200 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" > > >Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system >enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". >ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High >ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go >on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the >DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was >confident. >With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up >and now 'let the truth be told'. >The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager to >show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid >acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail >was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts >and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster >Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and >gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach >always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A >little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise >rudder balance good and elevator very effective. >Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ >retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of >the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was >sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was >sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. >Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. >This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I >changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the >same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as >expected. >Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it >back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. >Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the >building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; >Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I >married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the >build, and we are still together at the end of the build!!! >A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and >Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. >Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by the >family , is well worth waiting for. > >Cheers, >Tim >Tim Ward >12 Waiwetu Street, >Fendalton, >Christchurch, 8005 >New Zealand. >Ph 0064 3 3515166 >ward.t@xtra.co.nz > > Wie wint Wimbledon? Durf je te wedden? http://www.msn.be/sport/bookmaker2/default.asp ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Tim! Well done! All that 'heavy' Tailwheel experience came to be of use! Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Engine and Prop getting near to starting. Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. Completing Wiring to Panel. Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. Shoulder Width Mod completed. Ideas for Heater Unit ready to build! http://www.g-fizy.com +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: : First flights of F-PKRL & ZK-TIM From: rlborger --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger Dirk & Tim, Most heartfelt congratulations on the first flights of F-PKRL and ZK-TIM. Good going y'all! I wish you many years of wonderful flying. Best regards, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S (65%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 29 Main Gear, 32 Tail & 34 Door Latches. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic From: Richard Holder --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder Congratulations Tim. A great day. Now it is your wife's turn - she may have some jobs to be done around the house ! Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped > the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". > ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High > ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go on > the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the DDPG > (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was > confident. > With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up and > now 'let the truth be told'. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:40 AM PST US From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seating --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Dave may I suggest that you up load your photo to the Europa owners site rather than email to a single person. I'm sure that there are many like myself who would like to see you work as well. There is a special section on the home page of the site for builders examples. Tail winds. Brian S A276 Tri Gear. Texas http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=BrianS&op=modload&name=ga llery&file=index&include=view_album.php ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:56 AM PST US From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Fuselage cradle build plans? --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Can someone point me to build plans for the Fuselage cradle? My preference is for wood construction as I have no business being anywhere around welding equipment. That being said I do have a relative who is a good welder if necessary. I doubt that there would be a no longer needed trigear cradle for sale in close proximity to Texas? Brian S A276 Tri Gear. Texas http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=BrianS&op=modload&name=ga llery&file=index&include=view_album.php ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:38 AM PST US From: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuselage cradle build plans? --> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com In a message dated 13/06/04 15:00:56 GMT Standard Time, EuropaXSA276@aol.com writes: > Can someone point me to build plans for the Fuselage cradle? > > My preference is for wood construction as I have no business being anywhere > around welding equipment. Brian I and many other builders have used the fuselage cradle designed by Chuck Popenoe. You will find build instructions at http://members.bellatlantic.net/~cpops/cradle.html. It is a clever design and I have been very pleased with it. Regards John XL Mono G-JHKP ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:48 AM PST US From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuselage cradle build plans? Tri gear --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com In a message dated 6/13/2004 9:28:38 AM Central Standard Time, JohnDHeykoop@aol.com writes: and many other builders have used the fuselage cradle designed by Chuck Popenoe. You will find build instructions at Ahh YES! The famous Pops Cradle! Very nice design however my concern is that the side boards may get in the way of the TRI landing gear arrangement. Any trigear uses have experience with this design? Any problems? Thanks John! Brian S A276 Tri Gear. Texas http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=BrianS&op=modload&name=ga llery&file=index&include=view_album.php ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:07 AM PST US From: n3eu@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuselage cradle build plans? --> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote: > Can someone point me to build plans for the Fuselage cradle? > ... > I doubt that there would be a no longer needed trigear cradle for sale > in close proximity to Texas? You can have mine, but it's now just disassembled, dimensional lumber. For the trigear, you can keep it simple. A framed base, and four braced vertical 1 x 4s which affix to the fuse with screws and stuff. Since you have to adjust the height and level to install the main gear, slot the holes in the verticals. Only for the monowheel can I see where something much fancier than this is desirable, but the Pops design will make the main gear job rather a challenge. Reg, Fred F. N3EU ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:02:14 AM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: Fw: Europa-List: Fwd: First flight --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Harrison" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fwd: First flight > Congratulations Dirk! > How many kids did you make on the way ?! > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rowland Carson" > To: "Europa e-mail list" > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:01 PM > Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: First flight > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson > > > > News of another first flight forwarded FYI: > > > > >Delivered-To: europaclub-memsec@europaclub.org.uk > > >Subject: First flight > > >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:52:06 +0200 > > > > > >Dear Builders, > > >Another bird took the skys this 11th june at 11 a.m. After 5 years > > >of intermittent building the XS monowheel # 382 OO-145 with > > >Airmaster CS propeller driven by a Rotax 912ULS needed only 200 m > > >for a silent take off. After an hour and six nearly perfect landings > > >Dirk Oyen looked like those enlighted owners who descend from heaven. > > > > > >With thanks to all the people who helped and encouraged him. > > >Karel Vranken # 447 F-PKRL, nearly so far. > > > > Congratulations to Dirk! > > > > regards > > > > Rowland > > -- > > > > | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! > > | Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532 > > | e-mail website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:02:14 AM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: Fw: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Harrison" Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic > Well done Tim ! Congratulations. > Just keep away from my wife ! (Just a joke, mate!) > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Ward" > To: ; "Neville Eyre" ; > ; "Jane Stillwell" ; "Ian > Bentham" ; "Greg&Tonia Clarke" ; > "Andy Draper" > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:58 AM > Subject: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" > > > > > > Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system > enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". > > ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and > High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have > to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within > the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I > was confident. > > With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up > and now 'let the truth be told'. > > The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager > to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid > acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail > was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts > and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster > Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and > gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach > always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A > little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise > rudder balance good and elevator very effective. > > Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ > retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of > the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was > sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was > sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. > > Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. > This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I > changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the > same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as > expected. > > Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it > back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. > > Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the > building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; > Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I > married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, > and we are still together at the end of the build!!! > > A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and > Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. > > Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by > the family , is well worth waiting for. > > > > Cheers, > > Tim > > Tim Ward > > 12 Waiwetu Street, > > Fendalton, > > Christchurch, 8005 > > New Zealand. > > Ph 0064 3 3515166 > > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:46:41 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Feedback problem with the radio --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Paul, It can sometimes be transmitted through tight clamping of units in the system, but this does not sound like that symptom. If your headset earcups 'leak' then the acoustic feedback would be the cause. Tight earcups tend to reduce that. Is your system operated as 'VOX' - voice-operated transmission? That is, do you have the sound of your voice open the transmitter, or do you press a transmitt button? If the former, the sound from nearby will trigger the transmitter open as well as the intercom. VOX is operated by two datum voltages - a large one which triggers the transmission and a smaller one below which the transmitter shuts off. Both of these voltages is set by a pair of potentiometers usually somewhere moderately available to the avionics bod who installs/repairs same. The same may apply to the intercom unit. We'll keep an eye open for your solution when it comes. Cheers, Ferg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: Feedback problem with the radio | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" | | Hi All, | | | I have an odd problem with my GX60 when trying to transmit. I found it would start oscillating, it would start with an echo and then break into full audio feedback, similar to as what a PA system does when the microphone is too close to the speaker. I fooled with the problem for the longest time and I finally narrowed it down to my LightSpeed headsets. I called LightSpeed and sure enough they knew about the problem. They invited me to send the headsets back and they would fit a new shielded battery box. They came back and they "sorta" worked, but unfortunately they would still do it. | | A this point I resigned myself to using my Telex 3500's. These always seemed to work, but today they started to exhibit the same problem... now I am in a bit of a quandary on how to trouble shoot this problem. I do not have an audio panel at this time, I am using the internal intercom in the GX60. | | Does anyone have any ideas where to head with this. | | Paul | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:47:44 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: FL13 spacer From: "SteveD" --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" No, Fl13 is the right part number for the aileron close out. I'd look around or call Europa for new parts. Steved. ..+ ---------------- EuropaOwnersForum http://forum.okhuijsen.org , Europa builders, photo Gallery and more. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:16 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Seats --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Duncan McF, Bob Harrison, Cliff Shaw and Paul Atkinson, Many thanks for each contact regarding making the seats. I am particularly leery of attempting such a skill, but will give it one try before heading for a trained upholsterer. The photos, references and advice were most appreciated. Cheers, ferg Another glorious move by our worthwhile group! ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:52 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: FL13 spacer --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson At 2004-06-12 22:03 -0700 Andrew Sarangan wrote: >my kit does not have any FL13 Andrew - my 2 off FL13 are now spare (since Jan 2003 when I assembled the aileron roots). You only need one if you wax it properly. I'll send you my unused one if you wish, or post dimensions here when I find them - size is not that critical. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 | 710 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:21 PM PST US From: "JR (Bob) Gowing" Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic --> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing" Well done Tim Something to aspire to! J R (Bob) Gowing, UK Kit 327 Sth Coast of NSW in Oz (Fitting flap retraction gear) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Ward" ; "Jane Stillwell" ; "Ian Bentham" ; "Greg&Tonia Clarke" ; "Andy Draper" Subject: Europa-List: First Flight for ZK-TIM Monowheel Classic > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" > > > Well, after 7 years 1 month, with an extended high pressure system enveloped the Canterbury Plains my wife asked me if this is THE day. > I said "I suppose so, no excuses now". > ZK-TIM had done 2.5 hours of ground running, taxy tests (Low speed and High ish speeds) and all looked good. A few minor problems that would have to go on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List..airline jargon) but quite within the DDPG (airline jargon) otherwise after 5 hours on flying other Europas I was confident. > With the family standing outside the Wigram hangar I completed the run-up and now 'let the truth be told'. > The Rotax 912S with Airmaster Prop (empty weight 841 lbs) was very eager to show me what it can do, and it didn't let me down. A very rapid acceleration occurred, the forward pressure on the stick to raise the tail was soon calling and what an impressive performance. Climbed away at 65kts and the undercarriage came up with ease. Climb selected on the Airmaster Prop I had to bring the MP back quickly to stop busting altitudes! and gaining too much speed. Took it around the circuit, with a glide approach always available, to try out the controls and they were very responsive. A little port aileron down needed to stop roll (may be my weight) otherwise rudder balance good and elevator very effective. > Did an approach and overshoot to 200ft to try out the gear extension/ retraction again (and wave to the family) and then climbed to 3000ft out of the circuit to try one clean stall recovering at the buffet and that was sweet. Tried it with gear/flap down only to the initial buffet and that was sweet. Very mild, no wing drop and easy recovery. > Oil temperatures and pressures were all good, within the Rotax parameters. This was a relief as I have the Classic cowlings and for the Rotax 912S I changed the position of the Oil Cooler to underneath the spinner within the same lines as the lower cowling. Airmaster Propeller worked very well as expected. > Then returned for a landing on the grass approaching 65 kts and brought it back to 60kts and it quietly settled on the grass. > Many thanks to all you guys for tremendous help and friendship during the building. Also to Andy and Neville and John for their wisdom and advice; Europa and Ivan for such a 'classy' aircraft, and my wife, Adrienne, whom I married at the beginning of the build, produced 3 children during the build, and we are still together at the end of the build!!! > A special thanks to Gavin Lee, Russell Lister, Pat Scotter Ron Smith and Tony K. of NZ, who have always been so accommodating with their expertise. > Keep building, as that 'Europa smile' when I returned back, captured by the family , is well worth waiting for. > > Cheers, > Tim > Tim Ward > 12 Waiwetu Street, > Fendalton, > Christchurch, 8005 > New Zealand. > Ph 0064 3 3515166 > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:33 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Re: Europa-List: FL13 spacer --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan Thanks for the offer, but I found the problem. My FL13 spacers were inclulded with the wing kit, not with the tail kit. So, all is well. However, I still have the FL23 spacer, and I am not sure where that goes. --- Rowland Carson wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson > > > At 2004-06-12 22:03 -0700 Andrew Sarangan wrote: > > >my kit does not have any FL13 > > Andrew - my 2 off FL13 are now spare (since Jan 2003 > when I assembled > the aileron roots). You only need one if you wax it > properly. I'll > send you my unused one if you wish, or post > dimensions here when I > find them - size is not that critical. > > regards > > Rowland > -- > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:46 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Feedback problem with the radio --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi Fred, To answer your question my set up has a push to talk for transmitting. If your theory is correct I should be able to improve the situation by reducing the microphone gain. The GX60's internal intercom has the following parameters that can be set: - RF Level - Headphone level - Side tone level - Intercom level - Intercom squelch - Noise level I was hoping to set one that said "Microphone gain", but alas no. I will dig out the manual tonight and see if any of the above settings might help. Cheers, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Feedback problem with the radio > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" > > Paul, > It can sometimes be transmitted through tight clamping of units > in the system, but this does not sound like that symptom. If your headset > earcups 'leak' then the acoustic feedback would be the cause. Tight earcups > tend to reduce that. > Is your system operated as 'VOX' - voice-operated transmission? > That is, do you have the sound of your voice open the transmitter, or do you > press a transmitt button? If the former, the sound from nearby will trigger > the transmitter open as well as the intercom. VOX is operated by two datum > voltages - a large one which triggers the transmission and a smaller one > below which the transmitter shuts off. Both of these voltages is set by a > pair of potentiometers usually somewhere moderately available to the > avionics bod who installs/repairs same. The same may apply to the intercom > unit. > We'll keep an eye open for your solution when it comes. > Cheers, Ferg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul McAllister" > To: > Subject: Europa-List: Feedback problem with the radio > > > > would start oscillating, it would start with an echo and then break into > full audio feedback, similar to as what a PA system does when the microphone > is too close to the speaker. I fooled with the problem for the longest time > and I finally narrowed it down to my LightSpeed headsets. I called > LightSpeed and sure enough they knew about the problem. They invited me to > send the headsets back and they would fit a new shielded battery box. They > came back and they "sorta" worked, but unfortunately they would still do it. > seemed to work, but today they started to exhibit the same problem... now I > am in a bit of a quandary on how to trouble shoot this problem. I do not > have an audio panel at this time, I am using the internal intercom in the > GX60. > >