Europa-List Digest Archive

Fri 06/18/04


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:59 AM - Re: 912S, Warp Drive FP, fuel flow meter (Norbert.P.Hoffmann@t-online.de (Norbert P. Hoffmann))
     2. 05:00 AM - Re: Seats (Jim Butcher)
     3. 05:07 AM - Re: europa handling with subaru (Jim Butcher)
     4. 09:56 AM - Trigear brake pads (KARL HEINDL)
     5. 11:43 AM - AW: Seats (Europa (Alfred Buess))
     6. 12:08 PM - europa with bmw power (GLENN CROWDER)
     7. 03:48 PM - No more kit- N914PB is flying!! (Paul Boulet)
     8. 04:09 PM - Re: No more kit- N914PB is flying!! (R.C.Harrison)
     9. 04:37 PM - Re: No more kit- N914PB is flying!! (Alan Stills)
    10. 04:58 PM - Re: No more kit- N914PB is flying!! (Paul McAllister)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:59:39 AM PST US
    From: Norbert.P.Hoffmann@t-online.de (Norbert P. Hoffmann)
    Subject: Re: 912S, Warp Drive FP, fuel flow meter
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Norbert.P.Hoffmann@t-online.de (Norbert P. Hoffmann) patzip


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    Time: 05:00:55 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> Joe, You might also tell them that the motorgliders have air brake cables that route under the seat backs. Jim & Heather A185 mono, XS both wings, 914 about to paint


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    Time: 05:07:12 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
    Subject: Re: europa handling with subaru
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> the Rospeller prop was mentioned on this thread. I've looked at it quite closely and really think its a good prop. However, it is not full feathering for the motorglider (goes to about 20 deg) and is not well supported in the US. Jim & Heather A185 mono, XS, both wings, 914 about to paint


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    Time: 09:56:07 AM PST US
    From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: Trigear brake pads
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com> Hi All, Apart from Europa office has anyone found a cheaper supplier of the above brake pads for the Matco brakes ? There are some in the ACS catalog but no details are given about size etc. But the price looks right, a complete set for $21 ?


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    Time: 11:43:02 AM PST US
    From: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch>
    Subject: Seats
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch> For this reason (adjustable height of the seats) I asked Oregon Aero to produce the seats for my XS in a way that I can exchange the bottom cushions of the pilot and the copilot side against each other. This should give me the possiblility to use bottom cushions of different thickness for people of different size. This means also that the back cushions should "sit" on the seat structure and not on the bottom cushions as they usually do. By the way: I made CAD-drawings (dwg-files) of the seat structure of my Europa XS to give all the important measurements to Oregon Aero. I had put the drawings in the EuropaOwners Website (josok and SteveD), but the dwg-files have been removed by the forum administrator. If anyone is interested in a copy of these files, contact me off-forum. Alfred Alfred Buess Laenggasse 81, CH-3052 Zollikofen, Switzerland Tel.: +41 (0)31 911 63 32, Fax: +41 (0)31 911 56 32 E-Mail: ykibuess@bluewin.ch Europa XS #097, Monowheel, Foam shortwing, Rotax 912S, Airmaster 332 CS -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Kingsley Hurst Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Juni 2004 00:06 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: RE: Europa-List: Seats --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" --> <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Joe Proctor wrote:- > Having just brought my kit home and living very close to OregonAero I > . . . . . . . Can anyone tell me if I need to take anything else out to them > to help make it more functional model. Joe, In addition to the comments already made by Jeff (Rocketman) and Ferg Kyle, for Monos especially, the height of the seat is important. Therefore, Oregon Aero might like to take into consideration the need to be able to adjust the height for people of different statures. Consequently, it may be worth while suggesting to David Esterline (Oregon Aero) that he checks this aspect out when he goes to Oshkosh next month. Thank you for making your module available. Regards Kingsley Hurst Mono Classic 281 in Oz. == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 12:08:39 PM PST US
    From: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
    Subject: europa with bmw power
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> The 2004 model R1150 RT or RS bike in the US has factory twin spark ignition. Earlier models do not have the twin ignition. Power is up for 2004 to 98 hp. The R1100 RS and RT versions are 100 hp but the R1150 has a wider torque curve. The following British site reps the German made Takeoff-BMW geardrives: http://www.microlightsport.co.uk/Catalogue/New/bmwengine.htm Catalogue The German site for Takeoff-BMW is: http://www.takeoff-ul.de/Motoren/motoren.html Motoren On the microlight sport site, they claim a fairly complete weight with engine, geardrive, exhaust, airbox, and wiring about 81 kg. I have emailed Deepak at Microlight sport and he claims with their wiring harness that one can have an engine wired and running in an hour (maybe on a ultralight trike). I am considering this setup for a long postponed Avid Catalina project. One big issue on the beemer is the fact that the engine was designed with the exhaust port coming out of the cylinder head on the forward side of the bike and the intake port on the back. On a tractor configued aircraft like the Europa, the engine is turned around with the exhaust ports to the rear. This causes uneven cooling from the setup in the bike, causing the front side of the cylinder to run too cool and the back side to run hot. There also is a mandatory clutch that eliminates shaking on startup, the propeller not starting to turn until rpms are up to 2000 RPM or so. There could be issues with torsional resonance with the propeller, as there are only two large pistons firing rather than four smaller ones. The following is a list of various engines that have been tried in the Europa, including the BMW. http://www.loginet.nl/europa/euroengi.htm Bart & Henk's Europa Engine The following link is an extremely interesting article with lots of pictures on a BMW R1100S engine in a Cherry experimental. Be sure to download the PDF article on Rennys project on the first page - very entertaining! http://www.spang-air.de/Willkommen/BMW_Engine/hauptteil_bmw_engine.html BMW Engine There is more conversion information at this British site for the older 80 hp R100 motors: http://www.bmwavid.flyer.co.uk/ Prices And this is a site where a US builder installed the older 80 hp R100 motor on a Kolb MKIII http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&ext=1&groupid=3931&ck BMW - the ultimate flying machine... Homepage Glenn Crowder Golden, Colorado USA Getting married? Find great tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married


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    Time: 03:48:13 PM PST US
    From: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: No more kit- N914PB is flying!!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com> Hi All; I'm proud to report that kit A212, a Mono wheel XS with 914 engine and Airmaster prop flew into the air in Phoenix, Arizona during a sweltering 103 degrees. N914PB has one of the first diferential fuel pressure gauges and turbo intercooler supplied by Europa installed. They both worked very well. Kim Prout (West Coast distributor for Europa) was at the controls and did 2 circuits around the field. There was an 11mph crosswind which was 30 degrees off the nose. The flight went perfectly except oil pressure was at 238 degrees and climbing (even in throttled back, level flight) and the airspeed indicator stuck at 55 knots. The water temperature held steady at 227 degrees. Thanks to all that made this 3 1/2 year build project a reality. Special thanks to Phoenix Composites that helped with so much of the build and thanks to my wife for letting me indulge in this wonderful hobby. Paul Boulet, Malibu, California


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    Time: 04:09:28 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: No more kit- N914PB is flying!!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Congratulations Paul. Will your wife be flying with you ? If so has she got a sister !? Pleased my Jabiru 3300 hasn't to contend with those temperatures. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Boulet" <possibletodo@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Europa-List: No more kit- N914PB is flying!! > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com> > > Hi All; > I'm proud to report that kit A212, a Mono wheel XS with 914 engine and Airmaster prop flew into the air in Phoenix, Arizona during a sweltering 103 degrees. > > N914PB has one of the first diferential fuel pressure gauges and turbo intercooler supplied by Europa installed. They both worked very well. > > Kim Prout (West Coast distributor for Europa) was at the controls and did 2 circuits around the field. There was an 11mph crosswind which was 30 degrees off the nose. The flight went perfectly except oil pressure was at 238 degrees and climbing (even in throttled back, level flight) and the airspeed indicator stuck at 55 knots. The water temperature held steady at 227 degrees. > > Thanks to all that made this 3 1/2 year build project a reality. Special thanks to Phoenix Composites that helped with so much of the build and thanks to my wife for letting me indulge in this wonderful hobby. > > Paul Boulet, Malibu, California > >


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    Time: 04:37:20 PM PST US
    From: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: No more kit- N914PB is flying!!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net> Paul Congratulations on the flight. I've seen pictures of your plane at Deer Valley but haven't seen it yet. Many years happy flying. Yes, you are blessed with a wife so lienent. Al Stills A095 Glendale,Az


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    Time: 04:58:56 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: No more kit- N914PB is flying!!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Paul, Congratulations on your first flight. Now the fun begins !! Paul McAllister 25 hours and still grinning :-)




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