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1. 01:54 AM - Re: Tailplane pip pin cover tape (bizzarro@easynet.co.uk)
2. 04:54 AM - Re: Starter kickback (nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk)
3. 06:31 AM - Re: Tailplane pip pin cover tape (rlborger)
4. 08:39 AM - Re: Starter kickback (Leo J. Corbalis)
5. 08:41 AM - Re: Tailplane pip pin cover tape (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
6. 09:30 AM - Re: Europas at Oshkosh (Don Heath)
7. 09:33 AM - Re: Starter kickback (nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk)
8. 01:29 PM - Fw: Homebuilt Type Club Dinner/Meeting during AirVenture 2004 (Rowland Carson)
9. 02:59 PM - Dynon in space. (Gerry Holland)
10. 05:55 PM - Re: Dynon in space. (Jeremy Davey)
11. 06:20 PM - Re: Fuel Filler Pipe Moulding (Jim Brown)
12. 07:38 PM - Re: Dynon in space. (Cliff Shaw)
13. 09:11 PM - Re: Dynon in space. (Gerry Holland)
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| Subject: | Re: Tailplane pip pin cover tape |
--> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Basically, I could use electrical tape,
vinal or glider gap tape. I will order one of these.
Thanks again
Eddie
Quoting tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au
>
> Gidday Ed,
> You'll get better answers from others but the tape is gap tape for gliders.
> Contact
> your local glider organisation/club and they will put you straight. The other
> option
> is to have a look on the web now that you know what it is, order it online no
> doubt,
> and wait a day or two. This internet stuff is great!!
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
>
> > Ed <bizzarro@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Ed <bizzarro@easynet.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone still use the white tape to cover the pip pins on the
> > tail
> > plane? If so, does anyone know what it is and, where I can get some
> > in the
> > UK? Obviously, I dont want to stick tape on that will lift the paint
> > off
> > when removed. What did Europa recommend all those years ago?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Eddie Hatcher
> > G-SELF, Jabiru 3300 powered Europa.
> > Nearly finished!
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| Subject: | Re: Starter kickback |
--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
Hi John
Thanks for the info. As this problem is happening with many 912S engines
from new I would suggest that the fault is unlikely to be any of items 1,2
or 3 on your list. From what I have been told, kickback accelerates sprag
clutch wear which in turn makes the problem worse so sparg clutch wear is
more a symptom of the problem rather than the cause. As well as the suggestions
you mention I position the prop just after a compression before start so
it gets the best possible run at its first compression. Having tried all
these ideas I still find the single ignition start the best way to avoid
kickback especially on cold starts.
Nigel Charles
>-- Original Message --
>Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:23:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>From: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Starter kickback
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
>
>Hi All & Nigel,
>
>We investigated the starter kickback issue on the 912ULS a great deal at
>the US office lately. Basically, it is down to a number of issues.
>
>Including the following:
>
>1. Carbs out of balance.
>2. Gearbox too loose, dog gears may need to be shimed. Skydrive, or Lockwood
>can do this.
>3. Insufficent power to the starter. On cold days, unless you have a large
>battery, external power may be nessicary on the 912S.
>4. Sprag clutch loose or warn - replace this last as it is the hardest.
>
>The high torque starter also helps, however, with enough power you should
>still be fine.
>
>Also, carbs out of balance, a loose gearbox, or weak battery can damage
the
>sprag clutch, so you may have more than one issue.
>
>We have also found that is is helpfull to get the prop spinning fast before
>pulling the choke to prevent kickback due to flooding.
>
>Hope that helps!!
>
>John Hurst
>Europa Aircraft
>Lakeland, FL
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nigel charles <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Starter kickback
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>>I am told there is an up rated starter motor available that cures the
>problem.
>
>The motor is about an inch longer and turns the engine over faster
>during the start.<
>
>Yes there is and I know that it ceratinly helps to spin the engine quicker.
>However as it is longer I am told it cannot be used with Classic engine
>mounts so this is an option for XS owners only.
>
>Nigel Charles
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailplane pip pin cover tape |
--> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
Gents,
Here are a couple on-line sources for various types of gap-seal tape:
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/spoilers.htm
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page29.htm
If anyone tries any of them would you please let the list know how they
work.
Like Tony Renshaw said, "This internet stuff is great!!"
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S
(65%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in,
Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in. Working in - 24 Instrument
Panel, 25 Electrical, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail & 34 Door
Latches.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
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| Subject: | Re: Starter kickback |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
Has anyone tried delaying ignition ON until after the prop is spinning ?
Leo Corbalis
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| Subject: | Re: Tailplane pip pin cover tape |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Wing seal tape is available from:
Bolus Maxi Tape
P.O. Box 221
St Paris, OH 43072
Or e-mail Mike at:
usoar@juno.com
Yes, white electrical tape will work, but it leaves a, yellow, sticky
residue, especially after it's been on a while and exposed to UV. The Bolus tape
does
not leave a residue and it's 1" wide. Mike also sells the terrycloth "bucket
hats" glider pilots are prone to wear. Goofy looking, but they sure are nice
for keeping the sun off your head, nose and ears.
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245 (Installing rudder cable turnbuckles today)
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| Subject: | Re: Europas at Oshkosh |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Don Heath <d.heath@voyager.net>
Bob, I will be at Airventure, driving in. Don Heath
Bob Jacobsen wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Airventure is getting closer and now is the time to really start thinking
> about going. John has reserved a special parking area for Europas that will
> hold up to 30 airplanes. He has also moved the Europa booth so it will
> adjacent to the parking area.
>
> This will allow us to have an excellent presence and also to keep an eye on
> everyones airplane during the event. We will have some type of special sign
> so event parking staff will know where the Europa's go.
>
> John is also planning some special events that involve FOOD! like dinners
> or breakfasts for all Europa builders and pilots.
>
> But we NEED TO KNOW if you are planning on being at Airventure this year.
> Double check the infomation at www.europa-usa.com
>
> If you are not listed as attending and are going to be there please drop me
> (Bob) an e-mail at info@galaxyhobby.com or reply to this one and we will add
> you to the list. Best to contact me (not John) and I will keep the list up
> to date every day.
>
> If you are planning on flying - this is the year to do it!!! I would love
> to have 20 Europa's show up. Cliff, Jerry & I are planning on leaving the
> Seattle area on July 23rd and flying back basically along the I-90 route -
> If anyone wants to join up with us along the way let me know that also.
>
> Time to get cracking!!! I know there are more of you going then I have on
> the list now so please let me know.
>
> Happy building - or even better flying!!
>
> Bob Jacobsen
>
>
> _____________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Starter kickback |
--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
Yes. I often get the engine turning and then select choke and single ignition
as soon as max motoring has been achieved. Depending on the ergonomics of
your panel you may find you run out of hands to achieve this.
Nigel Charles
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Starter kickback
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:41:29 -0700
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Has anyone tried delaying ignition ON until after the prop is spinning
?
>Leo Corbalis
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: Homebuilt Type Club Dinner/Meeting during AirVenture |
2004
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Folks - I'm not in a position to respond to the following forwarded
item - does anyone else want to run with it?
>Subject: Homebuilt Type Club Dinner/Meeting during AirVenture 2004
>Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:04:07 -0500
>From: "Susan Sedlachek" <ssedlachek@eaa.org>
>
>Dear Newsletter Editor:
>
>AirVenture 2004 "Launching the Next Century of Flight" is coming up
>fast and planning is well underway. As always, type clubs will play
>a significant role in making it a memorable event for EAA members.
>If you are having a type club dinner/meeting during AirVenture
>Oshkosh 2004, would you please go to the following website:
><https://secure.eaa.org/airventure/type_clubs.html> and complete
>the form giving us the information to share with other EAA members.
>Please click "submit" when you have finished. This information will
>be included in the AirVenture Today daily newspaper and posted to
>the www.airventure.org website.
>
>Also:
>Homebuilt Headquarters will again have a tent adjacent to the
>building, which will be available for meetings, both planned and
>informal, at AirVenture 2004. We invite you to use this space for a
>meeting of builders. Please note that we have a new Homebuilt
>Headquarters building this year that is located in the center of the
>homebuilt flightline about 1/2 mile north of the old Homebuilt
>Headquarters building.
>
>If you would like to reserve the use of this tent, you may write us
>a note, e-mail infoserv@eaa.org or telephone the Aviation Services
>Department at 1-888-322-4636, extension 6112.
>
>Thank you so much for your help. We'll look forward to having your
>Type Club group here In Oshkosh for AirVenture 2004.
>
>See you next month!
>
>Susan
>
>
>Susan Sedlachek
>EAA Aviation Information Services
>888-322-4636 or 920-426-6112
>ssedlachek@eaa.org
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
For those who have or are considering the Dynon EFIS.
It went into space this week!
Details at: http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/spacenews1.html
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Engine and Prop getting near to starting.
Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added.
Completing Wiring to Panel.
Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted.
Shoulder Width Mod completed.
http://www.g-fizy.com
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
I really hate to say this, but didn't they have problems with a system that
put them 20-odd miles off course? I'm not saying it was the Dynon, but it
would be interesting to know the details!
Cheers,
Jereym
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off
while I do a load of small jobs first
1100 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Holland
Subject: Europa-List: Dynon in space.
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
For those who have or are considering the Dynon EFIS.
It went into space this week!
Details at: http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/spacenews1.html
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Engine and Prop getting near to starting.
Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added.
Completing Wiring to Panel.
Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted.
Shoulder Width Mod completed.
http://www.g-fizy.com
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filler Pipe Moulding |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
John
After about a year or so, the imprint appeared. This was before the factory
newsletter addressed the issue. As the fiberglass cured and aged in the hot Florida
climate I got the imprint. It would appear that the fiberglass continues to cure
long after the lay-up is done.
We repainted the a/c couple years ago, due to on going problems with the Poly Fibre
paint. I sanded out the imprint at that time, and we have not had the imprint
reappear
Jim Brown
N398JB
John Cliff wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff" <mx@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> In the factory newsletter issue 25 a case was reported of an 'imprint' of the
> moulded pipe appearing on the aircraft outer skin. It was suggested, as a
> precaution, that several plies of BID be applied to the fuselage inner skin,
to
> prevent this from happening.
>
> Has anyone else (who has not made the suggested reinforcement) seen this
> 'imprint' appear ?
>
> John Cliff
> #0259
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon in space. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
I sure do like mine. I had no idea that Burt Rutan was using one also. I
wonder how it worked at Mock 2.? !!!!!
do not archive
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Dynon in space.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
>
> For those who have or are considering the Dynon EFIS.
>
> It went into space this week!
>
> Details at: http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/spacenews1.html
>
> Regards
>
> Gerry
>
> Europa 384 G-FIZY
> Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
> Engine and Prop getting near to starting.
> Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added.
> Completing Wiring to Panel.
> Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted.
> Shoulder Width Mod completed.
>
> http://www.g-fizy.com
> +44 7808 402404
> gnholland@onetel.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon in space. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
> I really hate to say this, but didn't they have problems with a system that
> put them 20-odd miles off course? I'm not saying it was the Dynon, but it
> would be interesting to know the details!
What like the misspelling of your name...... By YOU!
Maybe they had a celebratory Red Wine on descent!!!! Hahaha
>
> Cheers,
> Jereym
Cheers
Geryr
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