---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/29/04: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:04 AM - Rant (Richard Holder) 2. 02:18 AM - Re: XCOM 760 query, (Simon Smith) 3. 05:38 AM - Re: Impact of MUW in cruise speeds (Chris Beck) 4. 05:44 AM - Re: Pay Back (Neville Eyre) 5. 06:29 AM - Re: Pay Back (Jeremy Davey) 6. 06:56 AM - Re: Pay Back (Neville Eyre) 7. 07:34 AM - FW: Footie fun (Neville Eyre) 8. 09:32 AM - Re: Rant (Carpenter, Matt) 9. 09:59 AM - Re: Rant (Gerry Holland) 10. 12:24 PM - Re: Rant and re-rant (Fergus Kyle) 11. 12:36 PM - Radio interference (geoffrey LEEDHAM) 12. 12:41 PM - Re: Pay Back (R.C.Harrison) 13. 12:58 PM - Re: Rant and re-rant (Gerry Holland) 14. 01:55 PM - Re: Pay Back (Jeremy Davey) 15. 02:19 PM - Re: XCOM 760 query, (John Cliff) 16. 02:52 PM - Re: XCOM 760 query, (Simon Smith) 17. 04:27 PM - Re: Pay Back (Kingsley Hurst) 18. 04:35 PM - Re: Pay Back (Kingsley Hurst) 19. 08:19 PM - Setting the mixture - 914 Rotax (Paul McAllister) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:29 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Rant From: Richard Holder --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder OK, I stand corrected. My recent experiences of the US and Sales Tax are in Delaware where there are NO sales taxes anyway ! A good place to buy stuff ! Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > --> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net > > Richard Holder wrote: > >> although when I think about >> it you don't pay sales tax on Europa kits unless you live in FLA - right ? > > If only that were so. Any State of residence which has a sales tax can > hold you liable for sales taxes not collected by an out-of-state vendor. > Some also have a kissin' cousin called a "use tax," wherein they can wait > until the aircraft receives its airworthiness cert before commencing the > assessment process. > > Reg, > Fred F. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:05 AM PST US From: "Simon Smith" Subject: RE: Europa-List: XCOM 760 query, --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" I looked at the X-com radio last year. I was interested in it because (like the ups/Garmin sl-40) it has a sort of dual receiver system so you can listen to two frequencies on the one box at the same time. Unfortunately neither are JTSO'd so out of bounds for us in Europe. In the end I went for the Filser Atr 600 which has the basic sort of built in intercom but at least it is voice activated. Simon G-BZTN 504 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Klinefelter Subject: RE: Europa-List: XCOM 760 query, --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" I have been considering the Xcom with its built in intercom for my Europa. Very interested to hear what anyone with experience with this very new product has to say. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of beecho@beecho.org Subject: RE: Europa-List: microair 760 query, --> Europa-List message posted by: Hold the phone folks on the Microair and the Xcom. I have two microairs and an Xcom intercom. I also paid them $100USDs for a harness to tie the works together. The harness had a zillion errors that took me a looong time to find them all. When corrected, it still didn't work....... I began a loooong process of trying to get Xcom to remedy things to no avail. I was about to s-can the works when they finally started responding. They sent me another intercom which didn't work either, interestingly in a different way! They now sound more interested in making things right. Both intercoms and the harness are back in Oz and I am breathing hard waiting to see what happens. Sooo, hold the phone! I'll report what happens. Tom (Oh yes, I know of another builder who has been waiting a looooong time for delivery of his paid for Xcom vhf 760.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of s.vestuti Subject: RE: Europa-List: microair 760 query, --> Europa-List message posted by: "s.vestuti" --> hello all, thanks for the replies , it looks as though the external intercom is the way to go for the microair , - or even the xcom 760 radio - it`s internal intercom is more conventional , steve # 573 == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:13 AM PST US From: "Chris Beck" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Impact of MUW in cruise speeds --> Europa-List message posted by: "Chris Beck" Hi, Paul. I've got a great way to test this - I'll sit in the right seat and act as ballast.... :-)) I can even read the instruments and log data as a side benefit! Congrats on getting her flying! I think Nathan is ready to help us finish our Europa now. We have him trained to wave at planes flying overhead, and he reads AOPA Pilot and Sport Aviation before bed. Well, *reading* as far as a 19 month old can read, that is. Best! Chris > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > Hi All, > > I was just curious as to folks experience on the change in cruise sped (if any) of adding a passenger. > > Paul > > > _- ======================================================================== > _- ======================================================================== > _- ======================================================================== > _- ======================================================================== > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:07 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back From: "Neville Eyre" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" OK OK ! We have had other things on our minds recently.... in the Euro 2004 football [soccer] championship, we [England] were knocked out by Portugal, who had a devious plan.... they had twelve men on the pitch, instead of eleven, the extra player was cunningly disguised as a Swiss Referee................ Cheers, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst Subject: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Do not archive To Neville Eyre, Bob Harrison and I think Gerry Holland too, Now come on fellows, can any of you tell me the results of the Rugby match last Friday night between the UK and OZ ? Heh Heh Heh Ha Ha Ha The silence is deafening ! ! BTW, you can start importing our wines again, very sweet grapes this year boys ! In jest Kingsley ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:42 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" S'ok, Nev - Kingsley's just sore about Mark Philippousis... :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off while I do a load of small jobs first 1100 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Eyre Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" OK OK ! We have had other things on our minds recently.... in the Euro 2004 football [soccer] championship, we [England] were knocked out by Portugal, who had a devious plan.... they had twelve men on the pitch, instead of eleven, the extra player was cunningly disguised as a Swiss Referee................ Cheers, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst Subject: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Do not archive To Neville Eyre, Bob Harrison and I think Gerry Holland too, Now come on fellows, can any of you tell me the results of the Rugby match last Friday night between the UK and OZ ? Heh Heh Heh Ha Ha Ha The silence is deafening ! ! BTW, you can start importing our wines again, very sweet grapes this year boys ! In jest Kingsley ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:37 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back From: "Neville Eyre" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" Hi Jeremy Who, Mark Philippousis sounds as much an indigenous Australian as our Greg Rudeski is an indigenous Brit ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" S'ok, Nev - Kingsley's just sore about Mark Philippousis... :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off while I do a load of small jobs first 1100 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Eyre Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" OK OK ! We have had other things on our minds recently.... in the Euro 2004 football [soccer] championship, we [England] were knocked out by Portugal, who had a devious plan.... they had twelve men on the pitch, instead of eleven, the extra player was cunningly disguised as a Swiss Referee................ Cheers, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst Subject: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Do not archive To Neville Eyre, Bob Harrison and I think Gerry Holland too, Now come on fellows, can any of you tell me the results of the Rugby match last Friday night between the UK and OZ ? Heh Heh Heh Ha Ha Ha The silence is deafening ! ! BTW, you can start importing our wines again, very sweet grapes this year boys ! In jest Kingsley ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:45 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: FW: Footie fun From: "Neville Eyre" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" -----Original Message----- From: Chris_Pullen@Stannah.co.uk [mailto:Chris_Pullen@Stannah.co.uk] rob.etheridge@honeywell.com; hotelsafi@btconnect.com; Andy_Burgess@stannah.co.uk; anne.johnson@hants.gov.uk; lefeuvh@NORWICH-UNION.CO.UK; kim.newman@barclays.co.uk; lyn.pullen@hants.gov.uk; barry.ramsden@ntlworld.com; alan@alanw.demon.co.uk; Claire_Powell@Stannah.co.uk; Mark_Hewlett@Stannah.co.uk; Kevin_Olding@Stannah.co.uk; chris@pullensworld.co.uk Subject: Footie fun (See attached file: meier2.jpg)(See attached file: beckham_penalty1.jpg) (See attached file: meier.jpg) **** The information transmitted by this e-mail, or any attachment, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and, or, privileged information. 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I figure it costs around 22$ an hour to fly, but we charge ourselves 25$ to fly (help build up the account). Insurance to me is a rip off, not just for airplanes, but cars, houses.. etc. But, I agree we need it.. Matt Carpenter -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Klinefelter Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rant --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" We pilots in the USA have very little to whine about. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Holder Subject: Europa-List: Rant --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder > I had a hard time finding insurance as well. > First they had down that it has a retractable landing gear. After a few > phone calls, and a picture the price dropped down 1/2. > > So In Amarillo Texas, with three people flying it, one of them with only 175 > hours Total Time, > our insurance is 2,200$ a year. Each of us had to fly 5 hours with a CFI. > It seems that the insurance market is restricted to a couple of underwriters > who will provide coverage for experimental aircraft in the US. Also it is > still be a cost issue in that coverage would still cost about $2500.00 US > whether conventional or tri-gear. > I read all this about the "high" prices for stuff in the US with amusement. I know a guy in DE who built an RV6A and he thought that $900 for insurance was high. And you think $2200 is high for three people one with quite low hours. You guys should think yourselves lucky. Over here insurance is at least $2500 and maybe more. My first year was $3000. And I also read of people who say that they spent $55000 building their Europa. Here if you buy the kits and the rest of the stuff including reasonable instrumentation and the sensible mods like the speed kit it works out at close to 50,000 which is $85000. I wonder why everything works out more expensive here ? Understandable if it was a US kit (like a RV which would have to be shipped over here). But this is an English kit. PhD thesis - Explain this phenomenon :-) Tax (VAT) at 17.5% explains some of it (10 % more than the average sales tax there), although when I think about it you don't pay sales tax on Europa kits unless you live in FLA - right ? I also see that there are complaints there that AVGAS 100LL is now up to $3 a US gallon - here it went past $7 a US gallon some time ago ! Lots of smilies :-))))))))))))))))) Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rant From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Matt Hi! > > Insurance to me is a rip off, not just for airplanes, but cars, houses.. > etc. > But, I agree we need it.. Here in UK the Fuel price is the real rip off for all those uses at up to $6.0+ per US gallon. The Tax on that is a huge percentage so we have a Government quite happy to let Fuel prices rise as an increasing price yields more Tax. Not meant to be political.... well not too much! Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Engine and Prop getting near to starting. Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. Completing Wiring to Panel. Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. Shoulder Width Mod completed. http://www.g-fizy.com +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com Do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:39 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rant and re-rant --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Gerry et al, Aside from fuel prices and taxes (you are 2-1/2 times our prices - perhaps because of the puny Can. $), we pay 15% on everything - everything - we buy; and our income, road, tire, excise taxes etc are all equal or heavier than yours. DIFFERENCE is I see that your road taxes build you roads, your government services actually produce a service - perhaps not to your taste - whereas we are taxed and the money wasted, corrupted, secreted, and thrown at friends. Many of our taxes are taxed! Our roads are becoming tolls, our school facilities (which we have paid for) are "too expensive to run", and our national debt (all they talk about is deficit) requires two years work for every man, woman and child for free, to pay for if we starve and freeze in the interim. Oh yes, and we have FOUR levels of government to pay for - and they all want the same tools........ Be content. Ferg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Holland" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rant | --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland | | Matt Hi! | > | > Insurance to me is a rip off, not just for airplanes, but cars, houses.. | > etc. | > But, I agree we need it.. | | Here in UK the Fuel price is the real rip off for all those uses at up to | $6.0+ per US gallon. | | The Tax on that is a huge percentage so we have a Government quite happy to | let Fuel prices rise as an increasing price yields more Tax. | | Not meant to be political.... well not too much! | | Regards | | Gerry | | Europa 384 G-FIZY | Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. | Engine and Prop getting near to starting. | Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. | Completing Wiring to Panel. | Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. | Shoulder Width Mod completed. | http://www.g-fizy.com | +44 7808 402404 | gnholland@onetel.com | | | Do not archive | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:36:42 PM PST US From: "geoffrey LEEDHAM" Subject: Europa-List: Radio interference --> Europa-List message posted by: "geoffrey LEEDHAM" A friend of mine with a Kitfox fitted with the Rotec 7 cyl. radial engine has a problem with radio interference when receiving and I would like to know if anyone has a solution. The noise is a ticking sound (which I guess is ignition) which increases with revs, making radio reception very difficult. The engine is fitted with 1 magneto type ignition and 1 Hall effect ignition which depends on battery power.(similar to a car type) Switching off either ignition does not remove the fault, and neither does wiring the radio (Icom IC-A200) to an independent power source. He has resistor plugs, has tried fitting resistor caps, and has fitted a suppressor to the positive side of the Hall system coil. Also have tried swapping the radio with the King KY97A. The external antenna is mounted on the rear top fuselage about 6 Ft behind the panel. Any ideas would be helpful. Geoff Leedham G-EOFS trigear ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:08 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Hi! Kingsley, What rugby match? It's summer time here and we are flying or playing cricket. Mind you I hear Wilko was teaching Beckham how to kick over the bar!. Also I was amazed to find that the Swiss are no longer neutral ! Regards Bob H G-PTAG do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Europa-List: Pay Back > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" > > Do not archive > > To Neville Eyre, Bob Harrison and I think Gerry Holland too, > > Now come on fellows, can any of you tell me the results of the Rugby > match last Friday night between the UK and OZ ? > > Heh Heh Heh > Ha Ha Ha > > The silence is deafening ! ! > > BTW, you can start importing our wines again, very sweet grapes this > year boys ! > > In jest > > Kingsley > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rant and re-rant From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Ferg Hi! I'll be content!..... For an hour at least! Regards Gerry Do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:55:56 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Hi, Nev Why, At least Philippousis was born an Aussie, unlike Rusedski or Budd. Not that the ancestors of Mr. Hurst were born Aussies, of course, but they don't like us mentioning them :-) Cheers, Jeremy Who Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off while I do a load of small jobs first 1100 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Eyre Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" Hi Jeremy Who, Mark Philippousis sounds as much an indigenous Australian as our Greg Rudeski is an indigenous Brit ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" S'ok, Nev - Kingsley's just sore about Mark Philippousis... :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off while I do a load of small jobs first 1100 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Eyre Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" OK OK ! We have had other things on our minds recently.... in the Euro 2004 football [soccer] championship, we [England] were knocked out by Portugal, who had a devious plan.... they had twelve men on the pitch, instead of eleven, the extra player was cunningly disguised as a Swiss Referee................ Cheers, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst Subject: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Do not archive To Neville Eyre, Bob Harrison and I think Gerry Holland too, Now come on fellows, can any of you tell me the results of the Rugby match last Friday night between the UK and OZ ? Heh Heh Heh Ha Ha Ha The silence is deafening ! ! BTW, you can start importing our wines again, very sweet grapes this year boys ! In jest Kingsley ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:19:21 PM PST US From: "John Cliff" Subject: Re: Europa-List: XCOM 760 query, --> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff" > I looked at the X-com radio last year. < snip> > Unfortunately neither are JTSO'd so out of bounds for us in Europe. Could you elaborate ? What governs what radio one may fit in a homebuilt in the UK ? John Cliff #0259 P.S. Thanks to those who responded on the filler pipe 'imprint'. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:11 PM PST US From: "Simon Smith" Subject: RE: Europa-List: XCOM 760 query, --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" See http://www.pfa.org.uk/pdf_docs/engineering/information_leaflets/radio_instal lations.pdf JTSO now overrides the CAA's own approved list. Simon -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cliff Subject: Re: Europa-List: XCOM 760 query, --> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff" --> > I looked at the X-com radio last year. < snip> > Unfortunately neither are JTSO'd so out of bounds for us in Europe. Could you elaborate ? What governs what radio one may fit in a homebuilt in the UK ? John Cliff #0259 P.S. Thanks to those who responded on the filler pipe 'imprint'. advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:27:47 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Do not archive > S'ok, Nev - Kingsley's just sore about Mark Philippousis... :-) 26 Jun 2004 Tour Match Australia (51) v England (15) Wallabies gain revenge in emphatic style World champions England suffered a crushing defeat at sold-out Suncorp Stadium as Australia gained emphatic revenge for handing over the Webb Ellis Trophy seven months ago. And now I'm sore about Mark Philippousis ! ! God, how can I ever win Jeremy ?? Tell you what, I'd be a lot sorer if I had a bird like his ! ! Who said that ? > What rugby match? It's summer time here and we are flying or playing cricket. Mind you I hear Wilko was teaching Beckham how to kick over the bar!. Also I was amazed to find that the Swiss are no longer neutral ! Yeah Bob, I believe you mate. Anyway, what's this about you playing Cricket ? Since when could England play Cricket ? > Not that the ancestors of Mr. Hurst were born Aussies, of course, but they don't like us mentioning them :-) That's only because my ancestors were Pommies mate ! ! Still waiting for Nev's clanger. I see he has attempted something but the attachments were stripped off. Thanks fellas Kingsley ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:49 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pay Back --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Do not archive --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" OK OK ! We have had other things on our minds recently.... in the Euro 2004 football [soccer] championship, we [England] were knocked out by Portugal, who had a devious plan.... they had twelve men on the pitch, instead of eleven, the extra player was cunningly disguised as a Swiss Referee................ Cheers, Nev. Sorry Nev, this came in after the others. Excuses Excuses, funny how the referees are always seen to be on the winning side. Never have I heard supporters of a winning team complaining how the ref was on the losers side ! Strange thing that ! Isn't it ? Cheers Kingsley ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:56 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: Setting the mixture - 914 Rotax --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi all, I was wondering how the correct air / fuel ratio is set for a 914. I suspect that mine is running a bit rich. I see black soot on the cowling and on the under side of the wing. I think that the fuel flows are on the high side. I am seeing the following numbers. - 4500' @ 30' x 5000 rpm = 6.2 US Gallons per hour. - 4500' @ 28' x 5000 rpm = 5.5 US Gallons per hour - 4500' @ 26' x 5000 rpm = 4.5 US Gallons per hour I am also suspicious that it uses more fuel at the same power settings at higher altitudes. I will connect my laptop to my EIS latter this week and collect a larger data set to verify my measurements. I'd appreciate anyone's opinion as to what I am seeing so far. Thanks, Paul