Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:08 AM - Re: Engine choices (nigel charles)
2. 12:55 AM - Re: international diplomacy (Jeremy Davey)
3. 04:30 AM - Re: Ivoprop (Andy Draper)
4. 07:30 AM - Re the state of Europa AC Ltd (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
5. 08:12 AM - Done yet?, priming (Steve Hagar)
6. 08:12 AM - Done yet?, priming (Steve Hagar)
7. 09:05 AM - Re: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
8. 09:20 AM - Re: Done yet?, priming (Paul Boulet)
9. 09:31 AM - Re: Done yet?, priming (G-IANI)
10. 10:22 AM - shell oil survey (Rowland Carson)
11. 10:22 AM - PFA Rally roundup (Rowland Carson)
12. 10:42 AM - Re: Swedish Contact request (Lincoln Philip)
13. 10:44 AM - Re: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd (Alan Burrows)
14. 11:16 AM - Re: Done yet?, priming (Rocketman)
15. 11:34 AM - Re: shell oil survey (Richard Iddon)
16. 11:48 AM - Re: PFA Rally roundup (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
17. 11:52 AM - Re: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
18. 12:05 PM - Re: Ivoprop (Ami McFadyean)
19. 12:52 PM - Fuel vents (Mike)
20. 01:07 PM - Re: Done yet?, priming (James Nelson)
21. 01:54 PM - Off the shelf Part Sourcing (SteveD)
22. 02:00 PM - Re: Fuel vents ()
23. 02:14 PM - Re: Done yet?, priming (Tony Krzyzewski)
24. 02:37 PM - Re: Fuel vents (Bill & Sue Sisley)
25. 03:03 PM - Re: WAS Re: TUESDAY HAT DROP? Now fuel "finger" stariner RANT ! (bryan allsop)
26. 03:11 PM - Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes.... (R.C.Harrison)
27. 03:13 PM - Re: Ivoprop (Robert Berube)
28. 03:17 PM - Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing (Europa Aircraft)
29. 03:21 PM - Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing ()
30. 03:28 PM - Re: shell oil survey (Rowland Carson)
31. 03:28 PM - Re: PFA Rally roundup (Rowland Carson)
32. 03:53 PM - Re: Fuel vents (Paul McAllister)
33. 03:54 PM - Re: Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes.... (Duncan McFadyean)
34. 03:57 PM - Re: shell oil survey (Duncan McFadyean)
35. 03:59 PM - Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing (Europa Aircraft)
36. 04:06 PM - Re: Done yet?, priming (Paul McAllister)
37. 04:25 PM - Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing (EuropaForum)
38. 04:58 PM - A banner day, today (Rocketman)
39. 05:30 PM - Re: Done yet?, priming ()
40. 10:04 PM - Re: Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes.... (R.C.Harrison)
41. 11:51 PM - exhaust fumes/ cockpit (Jon Smith)
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi Bob
Excuse my ignorance. I assumed that the reason that the 0-200 had been
removed was that it was not a success rather than politics. I still feel
that 212lb is still rather heavy. I estimate that this is a weight penalty
of about 40-50lb over the Rotax. In my case the numbers stack up as follows:
Empty weight (Rotax engine) 850lb
Fuel 120lb
Pilot & Pax 330lb
Baggage 70lb
MTOW 1370lb
If I was to use an 0-200 my baggage limit would become 20-30lb. This is not
very practical when touring. Also I doubt whether the 0-200 will be quite as
fuel efficient which would reduce range. Those of us that pay nearly $7/US
gall would not be impressed by the increased costs either.
Regards
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | international diplomacy |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
No worries, Steve! We're both trying to achieve the same end - and both with
the same passion!
Best reason I've ever seen for not joining a Club... :-)
Happy building, and thanks for all your effort with the BB version of the
Forum.
Woof!
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off
while I do a load of small jobs first
1100 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EuropaForum
Subject: Re: Europa-List: international diplomacy
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaForum <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I would like to make a public apology to the Europa Club and in
particular to Jeremy.
We seem to be very like mined people who are separated by a common
language. We've had our go arounds before, only to to end up in
agreement with neither changing his original position.
The reason I posted publicly was to get enough attention to make sure
that no one is left behind. I gain nothing from this, I have every nut
and bolt sitting in the garage. I'm very passionate about making sure
every builder gets what he or she needs to finish their project. To
that end, I continue to offer any and all help to Europa Aircraft, The
Europa Club, and any builder I can. I'll put my project on hold to make
calls, enter data, run down loose ends. The Europa builders/ flyers is
an international group and together we'll see the next 1000 planes
built. Email me off list and we'll start working on what needs to be
done.
Sincerely,
Steven Dunsmuir
P.S. Jeremy, as I've said before, I'd never join a club that would have
me as a member.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Dear Sven,
We tried the IVO PROP on G-YURO with its 912 engine and the performance was notably
poor. The cooling efficiencey on the ground also suffered. Unless the prop
has changed radically in the years since, I would not recommend its use on
a Europa.
regards
Andy Draper
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sven den
Boer
Subject: Europa-List: Ivoprop
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
Is there anyone who uses an Ivoprop in combination witha a 912 S fitted Eruopa
xs Trigear?
Love to see any experience with prop and company.
Cheers,
Sven den Boer
PH-SBR
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| Subject: | Re the state of Europa AC Ltd |
07/13/2004 10:30:15 AM,
Serialize complete at 07/13/2004 10:30:15 AM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Greetings All and Commiserations,
I have no facts, only opinions based on my four years of
association as a customer with Europa.
OPINIONS Follow:
Bankrupcy is no surprise, it naturally follows when subcontractors stop
shipping needed parts for lack of payment and customers stop paying for
kits and parts that are late for months to years.
New investors, motivated by profit margin are highly unlikely given
the company's track record. Builders as investors who have faith in the
products are another story. Other troubled kit companies have in fact
been rescued this way.
Keith has been a poor CEO. He as been an absent landlord in many senses,
with little to no communications to customers or even to at least some
of the present investors. No appropriate financial controls. No attention
paid to the new markets in the west. Inadequate investment in R&D, no
new product development for years, etc., etc. Surely no one should be
surprised that he made no public appearance at the recent PFA meeting.
Key staff (from the builder/customer viewpoint) have served well and
beyond
the call of a "day job" but have been shabbily treated. I include John,
Nev and Andy
here.
Builders without a firewall forward kit may not be as screwed as they may
think, fortunately. There are really only two items which are not COTS
(commercial, off the shelf): the cowl and the engine mount. There is
reason
to hope that a well known builder assistance group in the US may produce
such items. I'll leave it to them to announce this at the appropriate
time, but
they read this list and would no doubt be encouraged by positive comments
here. (Don't EMail me about them though)
Opinions off
Does anyone have a glider wing kit they want to sell?
Ira J. Rampil, N224XS test flying
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| Subject: | Done yet?, priming |
0.5 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
I've basically finished everything in the builders manual and firewall forward
book but it still seems like I have another year of work left. At this point
I'm mopping superfill on the fuselage to catch the imperfections, dings, and
ripples. My wings and flight control surfaces have been done for years and have
been primed with UV smooth prime. I have caught some issues with paint problems
concerning this manufacturer though specifically haven't heard problems
with the primer. It fills in real nice and sands good. Though if there is anyone
with some bad history to relate I don't want to commit to doing the fuselage
with it . Better to regroup before the whole job is done. Lets have some
input.
Thanks,
Steve
A143, Mesa, AZ
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Done yet?, priming |
0.5 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
I've basically finished everything in the builders manual and firewall forward
book but it still seems like I have another year of work left. At this point
I'm mopping superfill on the fuselage to catch the imperfections, dings, and
ripples. My wings and flight control surfaces have been done for years and have
been primed with UV smooth prime. I have caught some issues with paint problems
concerning this manufacturer though specifically haven't heard problems
with the primer. It fills in real nice and sands good. Though if there is anyone
with some bad history to relate I don't want to commit to doing the fuselage
with it . Better to regroup before the whole job is done. Lets have some
input.
Thanks,
Steve
A143, Mesa, AZ
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
In a message dated 7/13/2004 9:32:35 AM Central Standard Time,
irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu writes:
Builders without a firewall forward kit may not be as screwed as they may
Think, fortunately. There are really only two items which are not COTS
(Commercial, off the shelf): the cowl and the engine mount. There is
reason
to hope that a well known builder assistance group in the US may produce
Such items. I'll leave it to them to announce this at the appropriate
time, but
they read this list and would no doubt be encouraged by positive comments
Here. (Don't Email me about them though)
VERY encouraging news! Would these fine folks be located on FL?
To those "Mystery Entrepreneurs":
Let me know when I can place my order. I have my check book open.
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=BrianS&op=modload&name=ga
llery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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| Subject: | Re: Done yet?, priming |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
HI Steve;
have you searched the archives with the word Smooth Prime? seems to me there were
a lot of problems with it.
Paul Boulet, N914PB
Awaiting static port and test pilot so I can start flying off the 40 hours
Steve Hagar <hagargs@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar"
I've basically finished everything in the builders manual and firewall forward
book but it still seems like I have another year of work left. At this point I'm
mopping superfill on the fuselage to catch the imperfections, dings, and ripples.
My wings and flight control surfaces have been done for years and have
been primed with UV smooth prime. I have caught some issues with paint problems
concerning this manufacturer though specifically haven't heard problems with
the primer. It fills in real nice and sands good. Though if there is anyone with
some bad history to relate I don't want to commit to doing the fuselage with
it . Better to regroup before the whole job is done. Lets have some input.
Thanks,
Steve
A143, Mesa, AZ
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Done yet?, priming |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Based on my experience your time estimate of a year is about right. On the
subject of paint my advise is do nothing until you have decided on who is
going to paint the bird and what with. Then between you, you can decide
what you do and what the paint shop will do. This can save a lot of wasted
effort (and paint).
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Permit just received 6 hour Flying so far
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
Subject: Europa-List: Done yet?, priming
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
I've basically finished everything in the builders manual and firewall
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| Subject: | shell oil survey |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
We've received the following message from our local Shell Oil guy.
Please respond if you have the time.
>I trust that you are all well and that your struts / clubs are running well.
>
>Having been the joint victims of at least one of my talks, the time
>has come for me to beg a favour in return.
>We are trying to gather some market research data on how people
>prefer buy oils, what drives the decision when choosing oils etc so
>that we can hopefully improve customer offer.
>
>I would be very grateful if you could ask your members (e-mail /
>newsletter / meeting) to look at <http://www.shell.com/aviation> and
>do the on line survey. The more information we gather, the better we
>can meet people's needs.
>
>Many thanks in advance - you are all very kind.
>
>
>Rob Midgley
>Global Technical Manager, General Aviation
>
>
>Tel: +44 (0)161 499 8743 Fax: 4144 Other Tel: +44 (0)7836 604935 Mobile
>Email: robert.midgley@shell.com
>Internet: <http://www.shell.com>http://www.shell.com
regards
Rowland
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| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | PFA Rally roundup |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Thanks to all those who made the effort to get to the Rally at Kemble
over the weekend. It was great to meet many old friends and put faces
to new names (although I don't guarantee all those neural pathways
will stick!).
Among the stuff we cleared up at the end, we found a jacket and an
umbrella. If you can describe them, you can claim them.
Thanks to everyone for their support and good wishes. I'm still
clearing up the aftermath, so to those who were promised CDs, etc,
and to those waiting for access to the Members-only area of the
website - please be patient while I sift through everything that
needs attention. And maybe after all that I'll get some work done on
the Europa this month ....
regards
Rowland
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| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | Swedish Contact request |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Lincoln Philip" <philip.lincoln@essnet.se>
Well, there's always me, still lurking here on the list and trying to get things
setup in my 4th "workshop" (well, garage). Living in Stockholm (nearly 10 years
now, born and bred New Zealander though), building tri-gear kit 426, with
almost nil progress the last 6 months (damn job).
Regards,
Philip
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Iddon [mailto:riddon@sent.com]
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Swedish Contact request
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
Rowland.
I would appreciate an up to date list. Can you email? riddon@sent.com
Thanks.
Richard
Richard - no factory rep if that's what you mean - but a high
proportion of Europa builders in EAA Chapter 222 (ie Sweden) are also
Europa Club members. If your member list is out of date, contact me
off-list for a new copy.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re the state of Europa AC Ltd |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
That's really interesting stuff, but wouldn't that breach copyright,
intellectual property rights, patents etc. Surely any receiver or
liquidator would come after ANYONE who even thought along those lines.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
In a message dated 7/13/2004 9:32:35 AM Central Standard Time,
irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu writes:
Builders without a firewall forward kit may not be as screwed as they
may Think, fortunately. There are really only two items which are not
COTS (Commercial, off the shelf): the cowl and the engine mount. There
is
reason
to hope that a well known builder assistance group in the US may produce
Such items. I'll leave it to them to announce this at the appropriate
time, but
they read this list and would no doubt be encouraged by positive
comments Here. (Don't Email me about them though) VERY encouraging news!
Would these fine folks be located on FL?
To those "Mystery Entrepreneurs":
Let me know when I can place my order. I have my check book open.
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=BrianS&op=modload&n
ame=ga
llery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Done yet?, priming |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
G-IANI wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
>
>Based on my experience your time estimate of a year is about right. On the
>subject of paint my advise is do nothing until you have decided on who is
>going to paint the bird and what with. Then between you, you can decide
>what you do and what the paint shop will do. This can save a lot of wasted
>effort (and paint).
>
>Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
>Permit just received 6 hour Flying so far
>Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
>e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
>
>
For those still considering which paint/primer to use, let me share my
experience. I sanded out and filled the control surfaces for A055 in
the standard manner. The primer I chose was recommended by my paint
guy, who paints a lot of Corvetts and other "glass" vehicles. It's an
RM product (German origan, I believe) Called NP80 with a hardner, PA80.
This product flows on very well and does a great job of filling all the
nicks and scratches. It builds up, fast, and sands easily, leaving a
very slick finish. Once the surfaces were prepped, he shot them with an
RM two stage, base/clear by the same manufacturer. Two coats of clear,
then sanded and two more coats, then buffed. The whole job is only a
few mils thick. Finish is slick as glass and mirror deep. Pictures are
on the July page at http://www.N55XS.com Anyone interested in a durable
finish, deep shine and light weight, may want to consider these products.
I have no connection to RM, other than being a very satisfied customer...
Jeff - A055
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| Subject: | shell oil survey |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
As a compulsive survey filler-inner I just clicked on the link but it
doesn't work. Takes you to shell but click on the survey link and 'the
requested file is not found'
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland
Carson
Subject: Europa-List: shell oil survey
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
We've received the following message from our local Shell Oil guy.
Please respond if you have the time.
>I trust that you are all well and that your struts / clubs are running
well.
>
>Having been the joint victims of at least one of my talks, the time
>has come for me to beg a favour in return.
>We are trying to gather some market research data on how people
>prefer buy oils, what drives the decision when choosing oils etc so
>that we can hopefully improve customer offer.
>
>I would be very grateful if you could ask your members (e-mail /
>newsletter / meeting) to look at <http://www.shell.com/aviation> and
>do the on line survey. The more information we gather, the better we
>can meet people's needs.
>
>Many thanks in advance - you are all very kind.
>
>
>Rob Midgley
>Global Technical Manager, General Aviation
>
>
>Tel: +44 (0)161 499 8743 Fax: 4144 Other Tel: +44 (0)7836 604935 Mobile
>Email: robert.midgley@shell.com
>Internet: <http://www.shell.com>http://www.shell.com
regards
Rowland
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| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | Re: PFA Rally roundup |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
In a message dated 7/13/2004 10:23:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rowil@clara.net writes:
Among the stuff we cleared up at the end, we found a jacket and an
umbrella. If you can describe them, you can claim them.
Jacket has two arms, solid in back and opens in the front, colored.....the
umbrella is round when open with a stick in the middle. How's that?
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
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| Subject: | Re: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
In a message dated 7/13/2004 12:45:14 PM Central Standard Time,
alan@kestrel-insurance.com writes:
That's really interesting stuff, but wouldn't that breach copyright,
Intellectual property rights, patents etc. Surely any receiver or
liquidator would come after ANYONE who even thought along those lines
Good question Alan.
While I know little about the aircraft parts industry, other than the many I
have purchased over the years, I can speak on this subject about automotive
parts; A business that I have been in for some 20 years now.
In most cases, small design changes can be made that will skirt such issues
as copyright, and intellectual property rights of the Original Equipment
Manufacturer. Many times these design change will also incorporate enchantments
for
longer wear or better function. We call them after-market parts.
DON NOT ARCHIVE.
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=BrianS&op=modload&name=ga
llery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Andy,
Did you ever get to try the VP version of the Ivo?
I seem to remember that it broke down when you initially tried. Was there a
follow-up?
Rgds.,
Duncan McF
PS Not a fan of Ivoprops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Ivoprop
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper"
<andy@europa-aircraft.com>
>
> Dear Sven,
>
> We tried the IVO PROP on G-YURO with its 912 engine and the performance
was notably poor. The cooling efficiencey on the ground also suffered.
Unless the prop has changed radically in the years since, I would not
recommend its use on a Europa.
>
> regards
> Andy Draper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sven den
> Boer
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Ivoprop
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer"
<svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
>
> Is there anyone who uses an Ivoprop in combination witha a 912 S fitted
Eruopa xs Trigear?
> Love to see any experience with prop and company.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sven den Boer
> PH-SBR
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Did I read that the tank vent should be entirely separate from any other vent or
can my tank vent be t'd into that from the sight guage to the top of the filler
neck and another vent taken from the filler neck to the fuselage bottom?
Mike Gamble
XS 440
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| Subject: | Re: Done yet?, priming |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Hi Paul,
I used smooth prime on my fuselage and used Sherwin Williams
"Concept" to finish it off. The key is to let the smooth prime "dry"
completely. Mine was at least 30 days before I put Sherwin Williams
primer on and then finish coat. I actually did a different type of
application. I did a wet-on-wet application. The primer went on and
then about 20 minutes later I had the finish color coat applied. Its
been two years + and it looks as good today as it did the first day.
Jim Nelson
N15JN
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| Subject: | Off the shelf Part Sourcing |
2.6 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I've called Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft here in the states, and explained
the situation to them. Aircraft Spruce is sending me dealer paperwork, and associated
discount information.
Wicks would apply a discount for bulk purchase. Items would have to sorted and
packaged here by me. I'm faxing them the hardware list for FWF 912s as a starting
point, then see what happens if I multiply the order.
For people wishing to make orders on their own, Wicks will be offering 10% on all
orders placed during the week of Oshkosh, July 27.
Anyone having a parts database, please email it, or post it to me on the site in
a PM. We'll need all the different parts lists.
Steved.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Mike
That is what I did! I then put the vent in the slot where the flap
drive is.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel vents
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Did I read that the tank vent should be entirely separate from any other
vent or
can my tank vent be t'd into that from the sight guage to the top of the
filler neck and another vent taken from the filler neck to the fuselage
bottom?
Mike Gamble
XS 440
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| Subject: | Done yet?, priming |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
I've got Sikkens Urethane over Smoothprime and it really worked well.
The absolute key thing is to make sure that the smoothprime is really
dry before overspraying otherwise the top coat can blister. I was told
to leave it at least two months before over spraying.
Tony
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on dbmail-mx8.orcon.net.nz
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
That's what I did.!. Took the breather to the bottom behind the stbd speed
fairing on the flap arm.
Works a treat and will not spill fuel at any angle.
Sue and Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel vents
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
>
> Did I read that the tank vent should be entirely separate from any other
vent or
> can my tank vent be t'd into that from the sight guage to the top of the
filler neck and another vent taken from the filler neck to the fuselage
bottom?
> Mike Gamble
> XS 440
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TUESDAY HAT DROP? Now fuel "finger" stariner |
RANT !
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Bob,
Sorry to hear of your troubles so vividly and amusingly portrayed in your
e-mail. Equally sorry that you did not make it to Leicester today for the
really pleasant fly-in we had. No doubt we will see you soon enough though
once you have solved your problems.
We did talk about them at bacon butty time, but soon dismissed them as
rantings of a past his sell-by trike owner.
All that's best. Bryan PS. Was that '60' cab fare?
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: WAS Re: Europa-List: TUESDAY HAT DROP? Now fuel "finger" stariner
RANT !
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
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| Subject: | Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Harrison
Subject: Fuel Tank Connector Woes....
Hi! All.
I posted a message concerning restrictions in the Water Drain mod.connectors a
few days ago.
I know folks have been focused elsewhere but did anyone have any comments or perhaps
I was the onlyone who didn't know about it?
Regards with "ears on"?
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
do not archive
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com>
Hi Duncan,
Several years ago we tried the VP on G-ELSA 914 equipped here in the US at
the request of Rotax. It was fitted but the vibration was so bad that we
had to send it back to the factory. On the second try the vibration was
still not tolerable but we flew it and found the performance less than with
the Fixed Pitch Warp Drive. We recently installed one on a 912 but could
not get it to work properly. Not long ago a Velocity went down after losing
a blade on one with 4 people losing their lives. Hard for me to give it any
kind of recommendation.
Reards,
Bob Berube
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ivoprop
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Andy,
Did you ever get to try the VP version of the Ivo?
I seem to remember that it broke down when you initially tried. Was there a
follow-up?
Rgds.,
Duncan McF
PS Not a fan of Ivoprops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Ivoprop
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper"
<andy@europa-aircraft.com>
>
> Dear Sven,
>
> We tried the IVO PROP on G-YURO with its 912 engine and the performance
was notably poor. The cooling efficiencey on the ground also suffered.
Unless the prop has changed radically in the years since, I would not
recommend its use on a Europa.
>
> regards
> Andy Draper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sven den
> Boer
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Ivoprop
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer"
<svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
>
> Is there anyone who uses an Ivoprop in combination witha a 912 S fitted
Eruopa xs Trigear?
> Love to see any experience with prop and company.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sven den Boer
> PH-SBR
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
Steve,
Please understand that Europa is not out of business. In fact we may still be
going to Oshkosh. I was also firmly told that the demonstrators will not be sold
untill they have replacements. Yes, changes are being made, and there is
a very positive transition going on in the UK. Actions like calling one of our
vendors who I have a good relationship with in the US, like spruce, and telling
them that we are out of business dosen't help the situation at all.
What the builders, and Europa needs right now is your support. Lets do what we
can to make sure the company not only survives, but offers better service, and
sells even more kits than ever. That is the best thing you, and I can do for
the current, and future builders.
Can you please tell me who you talked to & what you said to Spruce so I can call
& do some damage control?
Finally, please stay positive!
John
-----Original Message-----
From: SteveD <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I've called Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft here in the states, and explained
the situation to them. Aircraft Spruce is sending me dealer paperwork, and associated
discount information.
Wicks would apply a discount for bulk purchase. Items would have to sorted and
packaged here by me. I'm faxing them the hardware list for FWF 912s as a starting
point, then see what happens if I multiply the order.
For people wishing to make orders on their own, Wicks will be offering 10% on all
orders placed during the week of Oshkosh, July 27.
Anyone having a parts database, please email it, or post it to me on the site in
a PM. We'll need all the different parts lists.
Steved.
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| Subject: | Off the shelf Part Sourcing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
If any of you elect to put a Jabiru 6 cyl fwf kit on it comes complete
with cowling, prop, prop extension, muffler, hoses, screws, bolts,
engine mount, oil separator, etc. everything you need!
Tom Friedland
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteveD
Subject: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I've called Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft here in the states, and
explained the situation to them. Aircraft Spruce is sending me dealer
paperwork, and associated discount information.
Wicks would apply a discount for bulk purchase. Items would have to
sorted and packaged here by me. I'm faxing them the hardware list for
FWF 912s as a starting point, then see what happens if I multiply the
order.
For people wishing to make orders on their own, Wicks will be offering
10% on all orders placed during the week of Oshkosh, July 27.
Anyone having a parts database, please email it, or post it to me on the
site in a PM. We'll need all the different parts lists.
Steved.
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| Subject: | shell oil survey |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004-07-13 19:34 +0100 Richard Iddon wrote:
>I just clicked on the link but it
>doesn't work.
Sorry! I hadn't checked it out myself as I am not buying aircraft oil
yet. I guess we should tell Rob it's broken ...
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | Re: PFA Rally roundup |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004-07-13 14:48 -0400 DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote:
>Jacket has two arms, solid in back and opens in the front, colored.....the
>umbrella is round when open with a stick in the middle. How's that?
Nice try, but not _specific_ enough to separate these items from the herd!
regards
Rowland
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| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Mike
I didn't put in a sight gauge but take a look at
http://europa363.versadev.com/jul-02.html. for a breather. It comes out of
the side of the fuselage near the flap drive rod. It works pretty well.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel vents
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
>
> Did I read that the tank vent should be entirely separate from any other
vent or
> can my tank vent be t'd into that from the sight guage to the top of the
filler neck and another vent taken from the filler neck to the fuselage
bottom?
> Mike Gamble
> XS 440
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
By way of requested feedback, I didn't really understand your description
and couldn't visualise the problem.
Duncan McF.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes....
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
<ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Harrison
> To: Europa Matronic Circuit
> Subject: Fuel Tank Connector Woes....
>
>
> Hi! All.
> I posted a message concerning restrictions in the Water Drain
mod.connectors a few days ago.
> I know folks have been focused elsewhere but did anyone have any comments
or perhaps I was the onlyone who didn't know about it?
> Regards with "ears on"?
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: shell oil survey |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Worked OK for me!
Duncan McF.
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: shell oil survey
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> At 2004-07-13 19:34 +0100 Richard Iddon wrote:
>
> >I just clicked on the link but it
> >doesn't work.
>
> Sorry! I hadn't checked it out myself as I am not buying aircraft oil
> yet. I guess we should tell Rob it's broken ...
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
Sorry Steve & everyone else, that message was meant just for Steve, not the public.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
Steve,
Please <snip>
-----Original Message-----
From: SteveD <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I've called Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft here in the states, and explained
the situation to them. Aircraft Spruce is sending me dealer paperwork, and associated
discount information.
Wicks would apply a discount for bulk purchase. Items would have to sorted and
packaged here by me. I'm faxing them the hardware list for FWF 912s as a starting
point, then see what happens if I multiply the order.
For people wishing to make orders on their own, Wicks will be offering 10% on all
orders placed during the week of Oshkosh, July 27.
Anyone having a parts database, please email it, or post it to me on the site in
a PM. We'll need all the different parts lists.
Steved.
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| Subject: | Re: Done yet?, priming |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Steve,
I used Superfil, Smooth prime and Sikkens base + clear. It turned out
great. The only thing I would change is how I approached the wing. It was
perfect when it went to the painters but when he baked it the underlying
substrate moved and you can see it. I have since looked at a few XS wings
and they are all the same. I would try baking the wing and then doing a
final go over with primer. Any paint shop with an oven could bake it for
you.
It took me the best part of a year to sand and fill, but I estimate 50% of
that time was spent whining about the task and 50% was actually doing it. I
got on best by applying the Superfil with long flexible spreaders with a
little heat to help it along, and I found spraying on the Smooth prime made
the finish sand go faster. My 914XS came in at 860 lbs, I think I over did
the filler/primer by about 10 lbs.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaForum <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Hi John, all...
I did not tell them Europa was out of business, I talked to people
about sourcing parts during transition.
It seems, that I'm not helping anyone. I will shut up.
Very sorry.
John, call me anytime.
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| Subject: | A banner day, today |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
Fellow builders:
Today was a landmark in the construction of A055. At about 3PM CDT (US
time) the family and I bonded on the top fuselage. As John said, Mr.
level and Mr. plumb bob agreed that all was straight. What a relief to
get that one under the old belt. Took about half a can of Redux (I hate
trying to convert metric.. :)), with the scrapings going to bond in the
fuel filler neck. All in all, a very successful day...
--
Jeff - A055
Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
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| Subject: | Re: Done yet?, priming |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
I used Smooth Prime and it seemed to work well. I finished with Top Gloss
and found it a lot of work. It required much sanding and buffing to get a
fair gloss(not a high gloss). I decided I wanted to fly in this lifetime
and called it quits on more buffing. In two years it still looks about the
same. Polyfiber has discontinued Top Gloss and now recommends Aeropoxy.
Recently I had need to repaint a couple areas one on the cowl and one on the
wing(damage from experiments and hanger rash). The patched areas look good
and are hard to find except they look better than the rest of the finish.
If I had it to do over, I would go with Aeropoxy or maybe Imron.
Flightcrafters finished my glider wings with an automobile equivalent of
Imron. They look fantastic after about eight months use.
ken Carpenter
A123 N9XS mono 914
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Done yet?, priming
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
>
> I've basically finished everything in the builders manual and firewall
forward book but it still seems like I have another year of work left. At
this point I'm mopping superfill on the fuselage to catch the imperfections,
dings, and ripples. My wings and flight control surfaces have been done for
years and have been primed with UV smooth prime. I have caught some issues
with paint problems concerning this manufacturer though specifically haven't
heard problems with the primer. It fills in real nice and sands good.
Though if there is anyone with some bad history to relate I don't want to
commit to doing the fuselage with it . Better to regroup before the whole
job is done. Lets have some input.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> A143, Mesa, AZ
>
>
> Steve Hagar
> hagargs@earthlink.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Duncan /all
Ah!
There is life out there!
Perhaps it is my light humour that has stopped folks recognising the problem
as being life threatening, or even they are so used to engine talk they
can't revert to aircraft problems!????
You need a new connector part, the bit that goes into the tank and is
clipped into place with a piece of large rubber hose.
If you take a look down it from the tank side prior to fitment of the
strainer gauze you will see that the hole which is to be the main exit hole,
which is drilled with its centre offset and parallel to the main body of the
connector (not the angled screw threaded hole) ,is restricted by the fact
that the drilling can not be drilled right through (otherwise it would break
out ). Then imagine how much the restriction is made worse by insertion of
the gauze and redux down the inside and you should get the problem.
The hole is restricted even more by the presence of the gauze.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes....
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> By way of requested feedback, I didn't really understand your description
> and couldn't visualise the problem.
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> To: "Europa Matronic Circuit" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Fw: Fuel Tank Connector Woes....
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
> <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert Harrison
> > To: Europa Matronic Circuit
> > Subject: Fuel Tank Connector Woes....
> >
> >
> > Hi! All.
> > I posted a message concerning restrictions in the Water Drain
> mod.connectors a few days ago.
> > I know folks have been focused elsewhere but did anyone have any
comments
> or perhaps I was the onlyone who didn't know about it?
> > Regards with "ears on"?
> > Bob Harrison G-PTAG
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | exhaust fumes/ cockpit |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jon Smith" <jon.smith680@tesco.net>
Hi everyone, I'm a new boy to Europa's, having just bought a completed one (G-TERN)
about 4 months ago - and have enjoyed every minute of it so far!
I've noticed that I'm getting exhaust fumes into the cockpit (faint smell from
time to time). On a two hour flight recently my CO detector (plastic card type)
started to go grey - not good! Also, at high angles of attack and power -
like just after take off - rather hot air is finding it's way in to the cockpit
- seems to be up through the tunnel. Not too bad in winter but quite unpleasant
in summer!
Could anyone advise me if these are known problems with Europa's and what I should
be looking at to cure it.
My cockpit is not upholstered yet but a kit came with the plane to do it. None
of the gaps into the cockpit are sealed - ie I can see the ground through the
undercarriage and brake levers! Also through the rudder pedal tube exit holes.
Should I be looking to seal every gap like this up? (Good to do before the upholstery!)
If so, what do people use to block the gaps - some sort of door draft
excluder brush strip, or soft rubber perhaps?
Any advice would be very much appreciated!
Jon Smith
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