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1. 12:00 AM - tri gear and some repairs and mod 13.70 baggage mod & cs prop required (nigel henry)
2. 01:02 AM - Re: Ivoprop (Neville Eyre)
3. 01:10 AM - Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing (Alan Burrows)
4. 01:26 AM - Re: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd (Alan Burrows)
5. 03:18 AM - Re:Fuel Tank Connector Woes (p-a.austin)
6. 04:02 AM - Fuel vents (Graham Singleton)
7. 04:02 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 41 Msgs - 07/13/04 (Graham Singleton)
8. 04:21 AM - Re: Re:Fuel Tank Connector Woes (R.C.Harrison)
9. 04:35 AM - Re: Ivoprop (Kingsley Hurst)
10. 06:17 AM - Re: Ivoprop (R.C.Harrison)
11. 06:39 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 41 Msgs - 07/13/04 (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
12. 07:12 AM - Re: Ivoprop (Garry Stout)
13. 08:43 AM - Re Aftermarket Europa parts (e.g., post Europa parts) (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
14. 09:23 AM - Re: Off the shelf Part Sourcing (Karel Vranken)
15. 09:51 AM - Re: exhaust fumes/ cockpit (Terry Seaver)
16. 09:55 AM - Priming/painting (John & Paddy Wigney)
17. 11:35 AM - Engine Choices (Fred R. Klein)
18. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 41 Msgs - 07/13/04 (Duncan McFadyean)
19. 12:19 PM - Re: Fuel vents (Tony Krzyzewski)
20. 01:24 PM - fuel vents (Mike)
21. 02:57 PM - Re: Ivoprop (Jeremy Davey)
22. 03:04 PM - Re: PFA Rally roundup (David Buckley)
23. 05:24 PM - NGK 914 Spark Plugs (Bob Jacobsen)
24. 05:53 PM - jacobsenra@hotmail.com (Tony Krzyzewski)
25. 06:41 PM - Re: NGK 914 Spark Plugs (Fergus Kyle)
26. 06:48 PM - Re: NGK 914 Spark Plugs (Jerry Rehn)
27. 06:51 PM - Re: jacobsenra@hotmail.com ()
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| Subject: | tri gear and some repairs and mod 13.70 baggage mod & cs |
prop required
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel henry" <gbupa@hotmail.com>
I have bought a europa that was damaged on landing its kitted out as a taildragger
eg 2 wheels at front 1 at rear
Then I find out that europa is [shall we say, in difficulity]
The parts that i require is tri-gear kit less wheels and hubs brakes[rear] also
speed kit
Front undercarrrage compleat to bolt in and would love a peek at and instalation
manual if anybody has a copy thatt hey could e-mail or post
Spar mod 13.70 and look at the manual
also extende baggage mod
I also want to fit vp/ cs prop which is the best value ? and best suited to the
europa ?
I can be contacted by e mail gbupa@hotmail.com fax is 01452 567567 and I live in
Gloucester
I also have some skin damage to repair aft of the saddle fuel tank and some delamination
after the baggage area but have not got any experence with 5mil foam
core so a chat with somebody who has repaired or modded a europa could be useful.
I also own a Long ez which I love flying but the other half does not like it in
the back so the europa is my new mount
thanks NIgel Henry
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" <neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Ivoprop ? hmmmmm......
If one was fitted as a ceiling fan, running at 60rpm, I wouldn't walk under it
without a crash helmet on...........
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sven den
Boer
Subject: Europa-List: Ivoprop
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
Is there anyone who uses an Ivoprop in combination witha a 912 S fitted Eruopa
xs Trigear?
Love to see any experience with prop and company.
Cheers,
Sven den Boer
PH-SBR
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| Subject: | Off the shelf Part Sourcing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi John
That's the best comment I have seen so far on the whole subject. I hope
everyone takes notice of your wise words and stops panicking, because
that helps no one. Thank you for injecting some common sense.
Kind Regards
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa
Aircraft
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
Steve,
Please understand that Europa is not out of business. In fact we may
still be going to Oshkosh. I was also firmly told that the
demonstrators will not be sold untill they have replacements. Yes,
changes are being made, and there is a very positive transition going on
in the UK. Actions like calling one of our vendors who I have a good
relationship with in the US, like spruce, and telling them that we are
out of business dosen't help the situation at all.
What the builders, and Europa needs right now is your support. Lets do
what we can to make sure the company not only survives, but offers
better service, and sells even more kits than ever. That is the best
thing you, and I can do for the current, and future builders.
Can you please tell me who you talked to & what you said to Spruce so I
can call & do some damage control?
Finally, please stay positive!
John
-----Original Message-----
From: SteveD <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I've called Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft here in the states, and
explained the situation to them. Aircraft Spruce is sending me dealer
paperwork, and associated discount information.
Wicks would apply a discount for bulk purchase. Items would have to
sorted and packaged here by me. I'm faxing them the hardware list for
FWF 912s as a starting point, then see what happens if I multiply the
order.
For people wishing to make orders on their own, Wicks will be offering
10% on all orders placed during the week of Oshkosh, July 27.
Anyone having a parts database, please email it, or post it to me on the
site in a PM. We'll need all the different parts lists.
Steved.
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| Subject: | Re the state of Europa AC Ltd |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Brian
I strongly advise you to tell your contact that he should NOT at this
stage make any attempt to produce ANY parts for the Europa hear what you
say about small design changes, but if a new owner or some form of
rescue package does come off then the new owners WOULD have to protect
there investment and the best way to do that is to go after ANYONE who
has been producing parts and make a real example of them with a law suit
that could potentially ruin there business. After all it's the guys with
the deepest pockets that usually win in life, so its best to not even go
down that road right now, but just wait to see what develops with the
company.
Cheers
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re the state of Europa AC Ltd
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
In a message dated 7/13/2004 12:45:14 PM Central Standard Time,
alan@kestrel-insurance.com writes:
That's really interesting stuff, but wouldn't that breach copyright,
Intellectual property rights, patents etc. Surely any receiver or
liquidator would come after ANYONE who even thought along those lines
Good question Alan.
While I know little about the aircraft parts industry, other than the
many I
have purchased over the years, I can speak on this subject about
automotive
parts; A business that I have been in for some 20 years now.
In most cases, small design changes can be made that will skirt such
issues
as copyright, and intellectual property rights of the Original Equipment
Manufacturer. Many times these design change will also incorporate
enchantments for
longer wear or better function. We call them after-market parts.
DON NOT ARCHIVE.
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
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| Subject: | Re:Fuel Tank Connector Woes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "p-a.austin" <p-a.austin@xtra.co.nz>
> I know folks have been focused elsewhere but did anyone have any comments
or perhaps
Perhaps like me, have been staring at one in their hand trying to think of a
fix, your comments on this idea:-
Turn down a step for a distance of a 1/2" in from the end part of the
Connector that inserts into the tank ( I know there is not much metal there)
wrap round and redux a new extended length of strainer onto this step then
grind flush with connector, finishing off the strainer as per manual, I know
it would be a sod of a job getting the assembly back into the tank but an
extended strainer will allow more surface area before blocking, be a case of
suck it and see (trial and error) until maximum length obtainable is found.
Your Thoughts.
Peter Austin
Classic #198
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 13/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
>
>Did I read that the tank vent should be entirely separate from any other
>vent or
>can my tank vent be t'd into that from the sight guage to the top of the
>filler
>neck and another vent taken from the filler neck to the fuselage bottom?
>Mike Gamble
Mike
I made a tank fitting with three NPT holes,then ran 3/8 tube to near the
top of the filler neck and a second 1/4 tube from the top of the neck to
the bottom (syphon break) It has been PFA approved, mod no. 10823. Several
builders have used this system.
I will shortly order another batch of tank fittings.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 41 Msgs - 07/13/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 13/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Is there anyone who uses an Ivoprop in combination witha a 912 S fitted Eruopa
>xs Trigear?
>Love to see any experience with prop and company.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Sven den Boer
Sven
I would not recomend an Ivoprop on any airplane. The company does not have
a good reputation.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re:Fuel Tank Connector Woes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Peter.
Yes, perhaps you are right but.... the initial restriction will still be
there although not exasperated by the addition of the gauze so far down the
hole. The hole needs opening towards the threaded hole by a "burr" tool,
anyway then the gauze needs only to go half way into the connector.
However more to the point half the gauze will never be used because the flow
will always be at the exit end. This means the assembly can be shortened
making it possible to enter it into the tank without damage. The fact was in
my case the gauze stopped the very small amount of contamination and it hung
about dangling inside in close proximity to the exit hole. The overall area
of the gauze isn't quite relevant when it blocks up only at the exit end.
The large surface area is OK if you are likely to put leaves, flakes of
paint or scale into the tank but it ought to allow small stuff through
unhindered.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "p-a.austin" <p-a.austin@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Europa-List: Re:Fuel Tank Connector Woes
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "p-a.austin" <p-a.austin@xtra.co.nz>
>
>
> > I know folks have been focused elsewhere but did anyone have any
comments
> or perhaps
>
> Perhaps like me, have been staring at one in their hand trying to think of
a
> fix, your comments on this idea:-
> Turn down a step for a distance of a 1/2" in from the end part of the
> Connector that inserts into the tank ( I know there is not much metal
there)
> wrap round and redux a new extended length of strainer onto this step then
> grind flush with connector, finishing off the strainer as per manual, I
know
> it would be a sod of a job getting the assembly back into the tank but an
> extended strainer will allow more surface area before blocking, be a case
of
> suck it and see (trial and error) until maximum length obtainable is
found.
> Your Thoughts.
>
>
> Peter Austin
>
> Classic #198
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre"
<neville@europa-aircraft.com>
>
> Ivoprop ? hmmmmm......
> If one was fitted as a ceiling fan, running at 60rpm, I wouldn't walk
under it without a crash helmet on...........
Why Nev ? You fairly tall mate ?
do not archive
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Kingsly
No worries to you since you'd be on your head , with "toetectors"on your
feet.
Regards
Bob Harrison
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ivoprop
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst"
<hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre"
> <neville@europa-aircraft.com>
> >
> > Ivoprop ? hmmmmm......
> > If one was fitted as a ceiling fan, running at 60rpm, I wouldn't walk
> under it without a crash helmet on...........
>
> Why Nev ? You fairly tall mate ?
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 41 Msgs - 07/13/04 |
07/14/2004 09:38:55 AM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
alan@kestrel-insurance.com writes:
what about IP Issues.
I really have a hard time believing a cowl is intellectual property.
In the US, it would be very difficult to fight a derivative, non-exact
copy. If the UK rules are actually different (and not just corporate
bluster), maybe those entreprenuers should save on shipping costs and just
market to the non-UK world. Would be a great pity though.
Ira N224XS
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
I was just reading in Kitplane magazine this month, of an RV-7 with a 400 HP
Corvette engine, and using an Ivo 3 blade VP prop. Makes me wonder?
Garry Stout
N4220S Trigear, 350 hrs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neville Eyre" <neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Ivoprop
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre"
<neville@europa-aircraft.com>
>
> Ivoprop ? hmmmmm......
> If one was fitted as a ceiling fan, running at 60rpm, I wouldn't walk
under it without a crash helmet on...........
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sven den
> Boer
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Ivoprop
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer"
<svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
>
> Is there anyone who uses an Ivoprop in combination witha a 912 S fitted
Eruopa xs Trigear?
> Love to see any experience with prop and company.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sven den Boer
> PH-SBR
>
>
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| Subject: | Re Aftermarket Europa parts (e.g., post Europa parts) |
07/14/2004 11:42:46 AM,
Serialize complete at 07/14/2004 11:42:46 AM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
It has come to my attention that my previous post on replacement cowls and
mounts could
confuse some people. I think it should be clear that a strong Europa
company is in everyone's
interest and therefore if Europa can provide parts, no one else will.
Ira N224XS Flying, testing, rewiring, repeat
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| Subject: | Off the shelf Part Sourcing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Karel Vranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
John is a great man and the Europa is a good product. Steve is burning his
candle on both sides.
Karel Vranken # 447 F-PKRL
>From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
>Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:19:42 +0100
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
><alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
>Hi John
>
>That's the best comment I have seen so far on the whole subject. I hope
>everyone takes notice of your wise words and stops panicking, because
>that helps no one. Thank you for injecting some common sense.
>Kind Regards
>
>Alan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa
>Aircraft
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
>
>Steve,
>
>Please understand that Europa is not out of business. In fact we may
>still be going to Oshkosh. I was also firmly told that the
>demonstrators will not be sold untill they have replacements. Yes,
>changes are being made, and there is a very positive transition going on
>in the UK. Actions like calling one of our vendors who I have a good
>relationship with in the US, like spruce, and telling them that we are
>out of business dosen't help the situation at all.
>
>What the builders, and Europa needs right now is your support. Lets do
>what we can to make sure the company not only survives, but offers
>better service, and sells even more kits than ever. That is the best
>thing you, and I can do for the current, and future builders.
>
>Can you please tell me who you talked to & what you said to Spruce so I
>can call & do some damage control?
>
>Finally, please stay positive!
>
>John
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SteveD <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
>To:
>Subject: Europa-List: Off the shelf Part Sourcing
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
>
>I've called Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft here in the states, and
>explained the situation to them. Aircraft Spruce is sending me dealer
>paperwork, and associated discount information.
>Wicks would apply a discount for bulk purchase. Items would have to
>sorted and packaged here by me. I'm faxing them the hardware list for
>FWF 912s as a starting point, then see what happens if I multiply the
>order.
>For people wishing to make orders on their own, Wicks will be offering
>10% on all orders placed during the week of Oshkosh, July 27.
>
>Anyone having a parts database, please email it, or post it to me on the
>site in a PM. We'll need all the different parts lists.
>
>Steved.
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust fumes/ cockpit |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Hi Jon,
We also had CO in our cockpit and found two fixes necessary. The first
was to seal the flap drive slot in the fuselage, using a piece of cowl
seal. The second was to fit an engine compartment baffle, between the
foot wells and to close off most of the upper cowl vents. This is all
documented in the Europa-USA website, at;
http://www.europa-usa.com/n135TD.htm
We were getting 70+ ppm CO, which is enough to cause concern, especially
at higher altitudes where there is less oxygen to begin with.
regards,
Terry Seaver
A135/N135TD
Jon Smith wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jon Smith" <jon.smith680@tesco.net>
>
>Hi everyone, I'm a new boy to Europa's, having just bought a completed one (G-TERN)
about 4 months ago - and have enjoyed every minute of it so far!
>
>I've noticed that I'm getting exhaust fumes into the cockpit (faint smell from
time to time). On a two hour flight recently my CO detector (plastic card type)
started to go grey - not good! Also, at high angles of attack and power -
like just after take off - rather hot air is finding it's way in to the cockpit
- seems to be up through the tunnel. Not too bad in winter but quite unpleasant
in summer!
>
>Could anyone advise me if these are known problems with Europa's and what I should
be looking at to cure it.
>
>My cockpit is not upholstered yet but a kit came with the plane to do it. None
of the gaps into the cockpit are sealed - ie I can see the ground through the
undercarriage and brake levers! Also through the rudder pedal tube exit holes.
>
>Should I be looking to seal every gap like this up? (Good to do before the upholstery!)
If so, what do people use to block the gaps - some sort of door draft
excluder brush strip, or soft rubber perhaps?
>
>Any advice would be very much appreciated!
>Jon Smith
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Priming/painting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
<<<<<Time: 08:12:32 AM PST US
From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Done yet?, priming
I've basically finished everything in the builders manual and firewall forward
book but it still seems like I have another year of work left. At this point
I'm mopping superfill on the fuselage to catch the imperfections, dings, and
ripples. My wings and flight control surfaces have been done for years and have
been primed with UV smooth prime. I have caught some issues with paint problems
concerning this manufacturer though specifically haven't heard problems
with the primer. It fills in real nice and sands good. Though if there is anyone
with some bad history to relate I don't want to commit to doing the fuselage
with it . Better to regroup before the whole job is done. Lets have some
input. Thanks, Steve A143, Mesa, AZ>>>>>
Hi Steve,
No bad history, just good. I used Superfill, UV Smooth Prime and Aerothane. All
of these are Polyfiber products. I have nothing but good news to report. My bird
has 300+ hours TT and has been through rain and plenty of sun. The finish
and gloss are excellent and the total package has proved to be very durable.
I plan to be at OSH, come and check it out. I do not claim it is perfect since
it is the first spray job I have done. As usual, by the time I was finished I
was getting fairly good.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, NC
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Hi All,
Here's another two cents worth of opinion...from a builder who has up to now
shied away from giving any consideration whatsoever to Rotax-alternatives.
The mere thought of attempting innovation on the powerplant side of things
is just way too daunting for my comfort zone...however,
I've just returned home from the EAA fly-in @ Arlington, WA where I had a
chance to see Alex Bowman's primo Honda CAM 125 installation in his XS mono!
The fellow who did his engineering for it, Neal Villon (sp?), was also there
and I was able to talk with him and Alex at length. Of course weight was an
issue and they have stipped away 17 lbs. from the stock CAM 125; I cannot
provide precise weight figures, but the 125 hp appears to more than
compensate for any increase in gross. Nor can I provide any precise info on
performance; however, the radiator installation is quite slick and along
with the air inlet and outlets, the design appears to be extremely low drag.
They have production molds for the cowl, baffling, and a wonderful monowheel
fairing...it is really quite something.
I have never been a fan of the XS cowl design, and Bowman's is really sweet.
Bob Masters of Firewall Forward, Inc. which makes up the basic engine was
also there; FF has invested considerable $ to ensure that the engine
controller is suitable for aircraft. The Honda V-tech engine and reduction
drive seem bulletproof, very robust, and the first 30 hours in the Europa
seems very promising.
In no way do I mean to equate 30 hrs. on one installation w/ the 1000's of
hrs. on 1000's of Rotaxes. Alex mentioned that his search for an alternative
began when his enquiries (several years ago) to Europa Inc. revealed that
the company was less than satisfied w/ the Rotax and was seeking an
alternative. I can't help but feel that a rejuvenated Europa Inc. would be
wise to consider supporting the CAM 125.
Fred
A194
- without FFwd kit and plexiglas
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 41 Msgs - 07/13/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I think Europa themselves have been there (during the development of the XS
cowls)and will know all the wrinkles!
So probably not worth locking horns with them.
Duncan McF.
Do not archive
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From: <irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 41 Msgs - 07/13/04
> --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
>
>
> alan@kestrel-insurance.com writes:
>
> what about IP Issues.
>
> I really have a hard time believing a cowl is intellectual property.
> In the US, it would be very difficult to fight a derivative, non-exact
> copy. If the UK rules are actually different (and not just corporate
> bluster), maybe those entreprenuers should save on shipping costs and just
> market to the non-UK world. Would be a great pity though.
>
> Ira N224XS
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Graham,
How do you get a fitting to secure to the material used for the filler neck? And
you can send me one of your fittings when you make the next lot.
Tony
I made a tank fitting with three NPT holes,then ran 3/8 tube to near the
top of the filler neck and a second 1/4 tube from the top of the neck to
the bottom (syphon break)
Tony
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Thanks to Graham, Paul, Bill& Sue and Tom for your feedback. I shall follow the
trend.
Mike Gamble
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
"Why Nev ? You fairly tall mate ?"
But Nev, I thought that's how you got the dodgy haircut :-)
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off
while I do a load of small jobs first
1100 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
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| Subject: | PFA Rally roundup |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Buckley" <davebuckley@zoom.co.uk>
Think the jacket was mine. Bought it shop soiled for a fiver 'cause it
was so *&%$ cold in my tent ! Don't really want it back. If it's no
use in the garage please just bin it
Thanks
Dave B. (no not that one !)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland
Carson
Subject: Europa-List: PFA Rally roundup
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Thanks to all those who made the effort to get to the Rally at Kemble
over the weekend. It was great to meet many old friends and put faces
to new names (although I don't guarantee all those neural pathways
will stick!).
Among the stuff we cleared up at the end, we found a jacket and an
umbrella. If you can describe them, you can claim them.
Thanks to everyone for their support and good wishes. I'm still
clearing up the aftermath, so to those who were promised CDs, etc,
and to those waiting for access to the Members-only area of the
website - please be patient while I sift through everything that
needs attention. And maybe after all that I'll get some work done on
the Europa this month ....
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | NGK 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
I wound up with a bunch of NGK Spark Plugs # DCPR7E for 914 engines. I
think they also fit the 912 - but not the 912S which is what I have.
Anyway I have 50 of these plugs for $2.00 each if someone wants the whole
bunch. US Shipping would be $5 - overseas would be a bit more. If anyone
is interested e-mail me back.
Thanks!
Bob Jacobsen
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Bob,
Pack them up and send them via USPS and I'll sedn you the money.
Alternatively I can give you my credit card number to process through
the store.
Tony
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Ph +64 9 274 1590 Kaon Technologies Ltd
Fx +64 9 274 1593 PO Box 58521
Cell 021 921 988 Greenmount
tonyk@kaon.co.nz Auckland NZ
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| Subject: | Re: NGK 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Sounds good to me, Bob.......how do I pay you?
Ferg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
Subject: Europa-List: NGK 914 Spark Plugs
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
|
| I wound up with a bunch of NGK Spark Plugs # DCPR7E for 914 engines. I
| think they also fit the 912 - but not the 912S which is what I have.
|
| Anyway I have 50 of these plugs for $2.00 each if someone wants the whole
| bunch. US Shipping would be $5 - overseas would be a bit more. If anyone
| is interested e-mail me back.
|
| Thanks!
|
| Bob Jacobsen
|
| http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: NGK 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com>
Bob the 914 takes theNGK DPR9EA-9 I think yours fit the 912
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
Subject: Europa-List: NGK 914 Spark Plugs
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
>
> I wound up with a bunch of NGK Spark Plugs # DCPR7E for 914 engines. I
> think they also fit the 912 - but not the 912S which is what I have.
>
> Anyway I have 50 of these plugs for $2.00 each if someone wants the whole
> bunch. US Shipping would be $5 - overseas would be a bit more. If anyone
> is interested e-mail me back.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Jacobsen
>
> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Tony
Be prepared! There is possibly another mono coming to Kiwi land....
Cathy the maybe copilot says that if the shrub gets reelected in
November, we are moving to NZ....
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Krzyzewski
Subject: Europa-List: jacobsenra@hotmail.com
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Bob,
Pack them up and send them via USPS and I'll sedn you the money.
Alternatively I can give you my credit card number to process through
the store.
Tony
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Tony S Krzyzewski Managing Director
Ph +64 9 274 1590 Kaon Technologies Ltd
Fx +64 9 274 1593 PO Box 58521
Cell 021 921 988 Greenmount
tonyk@kaon.co.nz Auckland NZ
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