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1. 04:09 AM - Re: NGK 914 Spark Plugs (Europa Aircraft)
2. 05:08 AM - breather fitting (Graham Singleton)
3. 11:15 AM - Re: Engine Choices (nigel charles)
4. 11:45 AM - Forward - message from Europa UK staff (DaveBuzz@aol.com)
5. 01:45 PM - mem sec catching up (Rowland Carson)
6. 01:58 PM - Re: Ivoprop (Duncan McFadyean)
7. 02:20 PM - Re: Engine Choices (Fred R. Klein)
8. 03:29 PM - Turn Coordinator ()
9. 04:43 PM - Re: Forward - message from Europa UK staff (K.Pilcher)
10. 05:45 PM - Re: Priming/painting (Bill Henderson)
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| Subject: | Re: NGK 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
Hi All,
Actually the number Jerry quoted was right, however the 914 uses a Denso plug,
not an NGK. I asked Rotax about this, they said that NGK does not make the exact
heat range that they wanted.
Happy Building!!
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: NGK 914 Spark Plugs
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com>
Bob the 914 takes theNGK DPR9EA-9 I think yours fit the 912
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
Subject: Europa-List: NGK 914 Spark Plugs
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
>
> I wound up with a bunch of NGK Spark Plugs # DCPR7E for 914 engines. I
> think they also fit the 912 - but not the 912S which is what I have.
>
> Anyway I have 50 of these plugs for $2.00 each if someone wants the whole
> bunch. US Shipping would be $5 - overseas would be a bit more. If anyone
> is interested e-mail me back.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Jacobsen
>
> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>
>
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| Subject: | breather fitting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>To: <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 07/14/04
>
>At 23:56 14/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>>Graham,
>>
>>How do you get a fitting to secure to the material used for the filler
>>neck? And
>>you can send me one of your fittings when you make the next lot.
>>
>>Tony
>Hi mate
>hope life is good? I use a bulkhead elbow fitting and a nut inside the
>neck just screwed up tight to compress the polyethylene. A second one for
>the 1/4" breather outlet.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Choices |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>The fellow who did his engineering for it, Neal Villon (sp?), was also
there
and I was able to talk with him and Alex at length. Of course weight was an
issue and they have stipped away 17 lbs. from the stock CAM 125; I cannot
provide precise weight figures, but the 125 hp appears to more than
compensate for any increase in gross.<
Power is not the issue. The 100hp Rotax provides plenty especially in
conjunction with a constant speed prop. The problem with heavy engines is
that you have less weight available for baggage. The 1370lb limit is a
structural limit not a performance limit.
Nigel Charles
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sharon@europa-aircraft.com, chrissy@europa-aircraft.com, europa@gate.net
| Subject: | Forward - message from Europa UK staff |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com
Hello email list,
Ray Bedford called me this afternoon and asked if I would be prepared to forward
an email for general distribution to the list on behalf of the UK Europa staff.
Subject to the content, I said I would. I have also copied to all the staff
with an email address supplied by Ray.
Finally, just to be totally clear, the Europa Club does not run, own or manage
the email list and has no wish to control who has access to it.
The email is reproduced in its entirety below.
dave
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Dave
THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL EUROPA MANAGEMENT(Intl) LTD STATEMENT
OPEN LETTER - To: Dave Bosomworth / Chairman Europa Club
From: The Undersigned
Many thanks for your time this afternoon. As discussed, please find below a brief
statement which has been prepared by myself on behalf of Europa's employees.
As a group we request, and would be grateful if you would ensure that all
Europa Club Members are informed as you feel necessary.
"We are fully aware that it is no secret that Europa has been, and still is suffering
from some particular difficulties. We have received many messages of support
over the past few days/weeks for which we are always grateful. However,
the nature of these messages is always centred around two/three individuals.
We would like the Club to be reminded that we are a very small team of 10 people
and we have been, and still are trying to keep things moving along as best
we can under very restrictive conditions. Indeed, some of these individuals
have been working under extreme pressure for a full 8 hours a day, 5 days a week
for many months now. We are a very small organisation, with each employee
having very specific responsibilities to discharge - so, very much like the Premiership
Football Teams, thanks very much for praising the striker, but please
don't forget about the Goalkeeper !
Sadly we have also received many misguided and unhelpful comments from various
Europa builders. We cannot, of course, differentiate between those builders who
are, or are not actual members of the Europa Club, but perhaps an announcement
within the Club circles will help all to understand and appreciate the difficulties
that all those here are working under. It has to be realised that the
misinformation and rumour currently circulating around the Forum are just that.
There have been no formal announcements either to the public or the employees.
As nobody is in possession of any facts, we as a team are unable to offer any guidance
or reassurance about the future. However, as a dedicated team we undertake
to ensure that once Europa breaks out into clearer air, and we strongly
believe that it will, we shall continue to serve the Europa community to the best
of our abilities. The unique thing about Europa, and it is unique, is that
even now after many months of very difficullt working conditions, every one
of us still wants to be here, still believes in the product, and wants desperately
for Europa to continue from strength to strength. We believe that given
the chance, it will........................."
Ray BEDFORD - Logistics
Maureen HUNT - Stores
Sharon DUGAN - Accounts
Chrissy ALLPORT - Accounts
Roger BULL - Tech Support
John WHEELER - Sales Support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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| Subject: | mem sec catching up |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
I have today staggered down to the Post Office with a stack of
packets for new and late-renewing members.
I hope I have dispatched the correct combinations of CD-ROMs, Europa
Flyers, mambership badges, etc, to supplement what you have already
picked up at the PFA Rally - things were quite hectic on the Club
stand most of the time, and I could have mis-recorded some details.
Please check that everything is correct on your confirmation form,
and let me know at <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> if I need to correct
anything.
For most enquirers, I didn't have time to go into detail about the
Europa Rescue Service. If you would like to join those who are
willing to volunteer assistance to other Europa pilots in trouble,
please let me know at <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> and I'll send you a
form without obligation.
regards
Rowland
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| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Found this recently on the Rospeller web site. May be of interest to those
with VPs.
Not sure what "satisfactory" engine life means!
DuncanMcF.
ROTAX recommends the following combination of RPM and manifold pressure to
insure satisfactory engine life and maximum fuel economy:
75% power = 5000 engine RPM and 27.2 inches of manifold press.
65% power = 4800 engine RPM and 26.5 inches of manifold press.
55% power = 4300 engine RPM and 26.3 inches of manifold press.
-----
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Choices |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
on 7/15/04 10:13 AM, nigel charles at nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>> The fellow who did his engineering for it, Neal Villon (sp?), was also
> there
> and I was able to talk with him and Alex at length. Of course weight was an
> issue and they have stipped away 17 lbs. from the stock CAM 125; I cannot
> provide precise weight figures, but the 125 hp appears to more than
> compensate for any increase in gross.<
>
> Power is not the issue. The 100hp Rotax provides plenty especially in
> conjunction with a constant speed prop. The problem with heavy engines is
> that you have less weight available for baggage. The 1370lb limit is a
> structural limit not a performance limit.
>
> Nigel Charles
>
Hi Nigel,
Your point is well taken.
Reading from a flyer extolling the CAM 125 installation in the Europa (which
includes, I note that the gross weight has been increased and approved (in
Canada) at 1500 lbs. How that translates into the Europas overall structural
strength is beyond my expertise. The flyer describing the install was
printed by Airspeed Products, PO Box 127, 5010 - 48th Ave., Delta, B.C. CAN
V4K 3N6,
email: amhd@island.net
The flyer notes that the modified CAM 125 engine weight (including
alternator, starter, and exhaust system) is 231 lbs. I am unsure as to
whether or not this figure includes coolant, radiators, and perhaps
additional weight in a robust cowl with integrated monowheel fairing.
I do know that Alex Bowman's first career was that of a CAN military test
pilot, and his engineer designs, fabricates, and sells airframe accessories
for the Dehaviland Beaver and Cessna 180 float planes. They appear to be
well grounded in what they're up to. Alex lives on a somewhat remote island
near Vancouver Island and mentioned that he does not yet have -but is
anticipating- internet service. If and when he gets it, I hope we'll hear
more about this CAM 125.
Fred
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"Europa Forum" <europa-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Turn Coordinator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
I have a new, never used, 3 1/8", American made (Electric Gyro Corp.),
electric, Aircraft Spruce P/N 1394T100.
List price in the AS catalog $489.00 USD. Will sell for $389.00 USD
obo. Will ship anyway you wish at your cost.
Tom Friedland Atascadero, CA. 805 460 9690
===========================================
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| Subject: | Re: Forward - message from Europa UK staff |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "K.Pilcher" <kpeng@waverider.co.uk>
Hi Dave,
Good to see ya and ta for the pop but as you know Chrissy and
I don,t drink much ( hee hee ). Thinking of having a Justic get together in
Oct maybe at my location ( Gaff ) Let me know if its poss.
Regards
Kev.
PS
Ta for info
----- Original Message -----
From: <DaveBuzz@aol.com>
<sharon@europa-aircraft.com>; <chrissy@europa-aircraft.com>;
<europa@gate.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Forward - message from Europa UK staff
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com
>
> Hello email list,
> Ray Bedford called me this afternoon and asked if I would be prepared to
forward an email for general distribution to the list on behalf of the UK
Europa staff. Subject to the content, I said I would. I have also copied to
all the staff with an email address supplied by Ray.
> Finally, just to be totally clear, the Europa Club does not run, own or
manage the email list and has no wish to control who has access to it.
> The email is reproduced in its entirety below.
> dave
>
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Dave
>
> THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL EUROPA MANAGEMENT(Intl) LTD STATEMENT
>
> OPEN LETTER - To: Dave Bosomworth / Chairman Europa Club
> From: The Undersigned
>
> Many thanks for your time this afternoon. As discussed, please find below
a brief statement which has been prepared by myself on behalf of Europa's
employees. As a group we request, and would be grateful if you would ensure
that all Europa Club Members are informed as you feel necessary.
>
> "We are fully aware that it is no secret that Europa has been, and still
is suffering from some particular difficulties. We have received many
messages of support over the past few days/weeks for which we are always
grateful. However, the nature of these messages is always centred around
two/three individuals. We would like the Club to be reminded that we are a
very small team of 10 people and we have been, and still are trying to keep
things moving along as best we can under very restrictive conditions.
Indeed, some of these individuals have been working under extreme pressure
for a full 8 hours a day, 5 days a week for many months now. We are a very
small organisation, with each employee having very specific responsibilities
to discharge - so, very much like the Premiership Football Teams, thanks
very much for praising the striker, but please don't forget about the
Goalkeeper !
>
> Sadly we have also received many misguided and unhelpful comments from
various Europa builders. We cannot, of course, differentiate between those
builders who are, or are not actual members of the Europa Club, but perhaps
an announcement within the Club circles will help all to understand and
appreciate the difficulties that all those here are working under. It has
to be realised that the misinformation and rumour currently circulating
around the Forum are just that. There have been no formal announcements
either to the public or the employees.
>
> As nobody is in possession of any facts, we as a team are unable to offer
any guidance or reassurance about the future. However, as a dedicated team
we undertake to ensure that once Europa breaks out into clearer air, and we
strongly believe that it will, we shall continue to serve the Europa
community to the best of our abilities. The unique thing about Europa, and
it is unique, is that even now after many months of very difficullt working
conditions, every one of us still wants to be here, still believes in the
product, and wants desperately for Europa to continue from strength to
strength. We believe that given the chance, it
will........................."
>
>
> Ray BEDFORD - Logistics
> Maureen HUNT - Stores
> Sharon DUGAN - Accounts
> Chrissy ALLPORT - Accounts
> Roger BULL - Tech Support
> John WHEELER - Sales Support
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Priming/painting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" <europabill@bellsouth.net>
I'll vouch for John's paint job. I saw his plan at Sun-n-fun this year. He
said it was his first attempt at spray painting. If this is his first, I
can't imagine what it would look like if he gets really good!!!!
Looks like a pro did it.
Bill Henderson
A010 Monowheel
Almost 10 years in the making.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Priming/painting
> --> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney
<johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
>
> <<<<<Time: 08:12:32 AM PST US
> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Europa-List: Done yet?, priming
>
> I've basically finished everything in the builders manual and firewall
forward
> book but it still seems like I have another year of work left. At this
point
> I'm mopping superfill on the fuselage to catch the imperfections, dings,
and
> ripples. My wings and flight control surfaces have been done for years
and have
> been primed with UV smooth prime. I have caught some issues with paint
problems
> concerning this manufacturer though specifically haven't heard problems
> with the primer. It fills in real nice and sands good. Though if there
is anyone
> with some bad history to relate I don't want to commit to doing the
fuselage
> with it . Better to regroup before the whole job is done. Lets have some
> input. Thanks, Steve A143, Mesa, AZ>>>>>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> No bad history, just good. I used Superfill, UV Smooth Prime and
Aerothane. All of these are Polyfiber products. I have nothing but good news
to report. My bird has 300+ hours TT and has been through rain and plenty of
sun. The finish and gloss are excellent and the total package has proved to
be very durable.
>
> I plan to be at OSH, come and check it out. I do not claim it is perfect
since it is the first spray job I have done. As usual, by the time I was
finished I was getting fairly good.
>
> Cheers, John
> N262WF, mono XS, 912S
> Mooresville, NC
>
>
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