---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/20/04: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:25 AM - Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber (Gerry Holland) 2. 05:40 AM - Re: static port problems (Andy Draper) 3. 05:53 AM - Re: Of course!! (Neville Eyre) 4. 06:12 AM - Re: Of course!! (Gerry Holland) 5. 09:10 AM - Re: static port problems (N914RB) 6. 09:42 AM - Re: europa flyer delivery (Annalights@aol.com) 7. 09:46 AM - Re: static port problems (Paul Boulet) 8. 09:49 AM - Re: static port problems (Paul Boulet) 9. 09:57 AM - USA sport pilot is out..... anyone out there have a stall speed under 45 knots CAS clean @ 600kg? (Peter Zutrauen) 10. 10:00 AM - Re: static port problems (Paul Boulet) 11. 12:24 PM - Re: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber (Duncan McFadyean) 12. 12:39 PM - Re: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber (Gerry Holland) 13. 01:54 PM - OSH Forum (Jim Butcher) 14. 02:48 PM - Adam Pawelec, are you there? (Rowland Carson) 15. 02:50 PM - Re: static port problems (Jos Okhuijsen) 16. 02:59 PM - Anyone in the UK got a set of blades for an NSI vp prop? (Pete Lawless) 17. 06:44 PM - Fuel Filter Funnel (Dave Anderson) 18. 08:02 PM - Re: Fuel Filter Funnel (Fergus Kyle) 19. 10:13 PM - OSH camping (Dave Anderson) 20. 11:15 PM - Re: static port problems (KARL HEINDL) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:06 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Has anyone in UK with 912 series Engine and XS Cowlings dispensed with the Top Cowling NACA Vent to Plenum Chamber and used air supplied from other areas via scat hose or whatever? It has and is being done in USA with no problems using a NACA in Lower Cowling and a manifold arrangement in Plenum area by some Builders and Flyers. Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Engine and Prop getting near to starting. Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. Completing Wiring to Panel. Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. Shoulder Width Mod completed. http://www.g-fizy.com +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:52 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems From: "Andy Draper" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" Dear Steve, We originally had the static probes made from aluminium, but found that it was difficult to avoid a burr around the small hole where the drill breaks out. You cannot have a chamfered edge as this will adversly affect the static reading so conventional deburring would have to be done extremely carefully. This relates into higher cost. Doing a one-off wouldn't be a problem, of course. We found that drilling the plastic probes left clean holes with good sharp edges. We are still using the same pitot static head on our demonstrator which has several hundred hours on it and has had its fair share of manhandling. We are aware that the pitot static is quite a vulnerable part, so we are careful with the port wing. Perhaps the workshop environment is more likely to result in damage than in the hangar, workshop or exhibition hall. Regards Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" Paul: The easiest thing to do is to take your old one and measure it up to make a drawing or sketch, and give to a machinest. It looks like a prime candidate to be turned from a piece of 1/4" aluminum bar stock. Mine busted also and that's what I'm planning on doing. Steve A143 Mesa, AZ > [Original Message] > From: Paul Boulet > To: > Date: 7/18/04 5:46:15 PM > Subject: Europa-List: static port problems > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > Hi All; > I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find much helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they might get them in. > > Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the air? This is very frustrating > > Paul Boulet, N914PB > Malibu, CA > Still need to fly the 40 hours off > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Of course!! From: "Neville Eyre" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" There is a queer rumour going around !................................. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Subject: Re: Europa-List: Of course!! --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Its true, I confess..... I slept with Neville as well....... Paul do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Of course!! > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" > > Ferg, > > I've got to ask for clarification here. Did you really mean to say you've > slept with Neville???? :-) > > Cheers, > Jeremy > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Of course!! From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Nev Hi! and in answer to you > There is a queer rumour going around !................................. A positive advantage in this country! Nothings impossible when you 'bat' from that crease..... It is Cricket we are on about? Regards Gerry Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:02 AM PST US From: "N914RB" Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" Only problem is I just sent you (went out yesterday to Rob) my part, so it'll have to wait until you're through with it or if someone has a spare they can send to me so I can see if it can be copied. Dan N914RB Tucson, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Boulet" Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > sign me up! > Paul Boulet, N914PB > > N914RB wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" > > I've got a guy here in Tucson that could probably do just that if anybody's > game. > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Hagar" > To: > Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" > > > > Paul: > > > > The easiest thing to do is to take your old one and measure it up to make > a > > drawing or sketch, and give to a machinest. It looks like a prime > candidate > > to be turned from a piece of 1/4" aluminum bar stock. Mine busted also and > > that's what I'm planning on doing. > > > > Steve > > A143 Mesa, AZ > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Paul Boulet > > > > To: > > > Date: 7/18/04 5:46:15 PM > > > Subject: Europa-List: static port problems > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > > > > > > Hi All; > > > I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find > much > > helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of > > airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the > > Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they might > > get them in. > > > > > > Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the > > air? This is very frustrating > > > > > > Paul Boulet, N914PB > > > Malibu, CA > > > Still need to fly the 40 hours off > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:48 AM PST US From: Annalights@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa flyer delivery --> Europa-List message posted by: Annalights@aol.com Rowland, I haven't received the latest Europa flyer and I think I pay you by standing order or credit card order but not sure. Could I be on the bad payers list? Really not sure. If I do owe please let me know. Also a final request I've forgotten my password to the website. ANy chance of a reminder. Many thanks Patrick Griffin (G PATZ) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:01 AM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Thanks Dan. I ordered two more direct from UK so they should be here in just a week or so when I'll forward one on to you. It's getting exciting! Paul N914RB wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" Only problem is I just sent you (went out yesterday to Rob) my part, so it'll have to wait until you're through with it or if someone has a spare they can send to me so I can see if it can be copied. Dan N914RB Tucson, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Boulet" Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > sign me up! > Paul Boulet, N914PB > > N914RB wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" > > I've got a guy here in Tucson that could probably do just that if anybody's > game. > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Hagar" > To: > Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" > > > > Paul: > > > > The easiest thing to do is to take your old one and measure it up to make > a > > drawing or sketch, and give to a machinest. It looks like a prime > candidate > > to be turned from a piece of 1/4" aluminum bar stock. Mine busted also and > > that's what I'm planning on doing. > > > > Steve > > A143 Mesa, AZ > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Paul Boulet > > > > To: > > > Date: 7/18/04 5:46:15 PM > > > Subject: Europa-List: static port problems > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > > > > > > Hi All; > > > I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find > much > > helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of > > airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the > > Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they might > > get them in. > > > > > > Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the > > air? This is very frustrating > > > > > > Paul Boulet, N914PB > > > Malibu, CA > > > Still need to fly the 40 hours off > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:47 AM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Thanks for the help... I'll play around with it Paul William Mills wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" Paul, A number of Europa pilots have found that venting the static line to cockpit behind the panel provides a more accurate airspeed reading than using the wing mounted probe or the original fuselage vents. I did this a long ago and found it very successful. I now use the static probe, without its black bung, as another pitot source for "undercarriage not down" warning. (The PFA will not allow the pitot source feeding the ASI to be used for anything else) Taking the static tube off the instruments will get you back into the air very quickly. Best wishes, William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Boulet" Subject: Europa-List: static port problems > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > Hi All; > I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find much helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they might get them in. > > Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the air? This is very frustrating > > Paul Boulet, N914PB > Malibu, CA > Still need to fly the 40 hours off > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:44 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: USA sport pilot is out..... anyone out there have a stall speed under 45 knots CAS clean @ 600kg? From: "Peter Zutrauen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" The new sport pilot rule has finally been issued by the FAA. http://www.faa.gov/avr/arm/rulemaking/SportPilotRule7_19.doc It has lightly higher gross weight than the advanced ultralight rule here in Canada. 600kg max gross 1 or two occupants single engine max stall speed (no flaps) of 45 knots CAS max level airspeed 120 knots fixed gear fixed pitch prop I was wondering if any out there already flying has managed to get a clean stall speed at 600kg gross under the required 45 knots CAS? Inquiring minds would like to know :-) Cheers & blue skies, Peter Zutrauen Europa Builder A239 dual-wing http://europa.zutrasoft.com Ph: 613-831-0348 Cell: 613-851-1640 Fax: 613-831-9955 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Boulet [mailto:possibletodo@YAHOO.COM] Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Thanks Dan. I ordered two more direct from UK so they should be here in just a week or so when I'll forward one on to you. It's getting exciting! Paul N914RB wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" Only problem is I just sent you (went out yesterday to Rob) my part, so it'll have to wait until you're through with it or if someone has a spare they can send to me so I can see if it can be copied. Dan N914RB Tucson, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Boulet" Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > sign me up! > Paul Boulet, N914PB > > N914RB wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" > > I've got a guy here in Tucson that could probably do just that if anybody's > game. > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Hagar" > To: > Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" > > > > Paul: > > > > The easiest thing to do is to take your old one and measure it up to make > a > > drawing or sketch, and give to a machinest. It looks like a prime > candidate > > to be turned from a piece of 1/4" aluminum bar stock. Mine busted also and > > that's what I'm planning on doing. > > > > Steve > > A143 Mesa, AZ > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Paul Boulet > > > > To: > > > Date: 7/18/04 5:46:15 PM > > > Subject: Europa-List: static port problems > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > > > > > > Hi All; > > > I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find > much > > helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of > > airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the > > Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they might > > get them in. > > > > > > Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the > > air? This is very frustrating > > > > > > Paul Boulet, N914PB > > > Malibu, CA > > > Still need to fly the 40 hours off > > > > > > > > > > > > == == == == ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:54 AM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Hi Andy; The last 4 digits on my credit card are 8919 and expires 9/05. Let me know if you need anything else to send met the static port(s). Thanks, Paul Boulet, N914PB Andy Draper wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" Dear Paul, There is a limited number of the static probes in stock in the UK. Cost is 3.34 pounds plus P+P. Please let me know if you'd like to order one. Regards Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Boulet Subject: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Hi All; I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find much helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they might get them in. Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the air? This is very frustrating Paul Boulet, N914PB Malibu, CA Still need to fly the 40 hours off ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:21 PM PST US From: "Duncan McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" Why? Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Holland" Subject: Europa-List: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland > > Has anyone in UK with 912 series Engine and XS Cowlings dispensed with the > Top Cowling NACA Vent to Plenum Chamber and used air supplied from other > areas via scat hose or whatever? > > It has and is being done in USA with no problems using a NACA in Lower > Cowling and a manifold arrangement in Plenum area by some Builders and > Flyers. > > Regards > > Gerry > > Europa 384 G-FIZY > Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. > Engine and Prop getting near to starting. > Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added. > Completing Wiring to Panel. > Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. > Shoulder Width Mod completed. > > http://www.g-fizy.com > +44 7808 402404 > gnholland@onetel.com > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:39:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland > Why? > > Duncan McF. Because I want to! Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:54:49 PM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: OSH Forum --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" There will be a Builders Forum at OSH. It is scheduled for Tuesday, 7/27 from 4:00 pm to 5:15 pm in pavillion 02. They assigned the date and time - I asked for later in the week but this is what I got! There is no set agenda, just questions, answers, discussions etc. regarding building and flying Europas. An opportunity to meet other builders and put faces to names. Hope to see you there. Jim Butcher A185 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:48:30 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: Adam Pawelec, are you there? --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson I received an attempt by Adam Pawelec to register on the Europa CLub members-only pages. As he doesn't appear to be a paid-up Club member, I sent a query about it to the address he quoted: . Alas, I got back a bounce message in Polish. (If anyone wants exercise in translation, they're welcome to a copy!) If Adam is lurking hereabouts, please can he contact me direct at and let me know of a working e-mail address. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems From: "Jos Okhuijsen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" Why is it, that i can't get anything else then an answering machine and no reply to emails, not even to you Andy? I would like to have that static port. And i would like to know what the status of my last order is. Getting pretty annoyed here, sorry, Jos Okhuijsen Andy Draper kirjoitti Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:42:59 +0100: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" > > > Dear Steve, > > We originally had the static probes made from aluminium, but found that > it was difficult to avoid a burr around the small hole where the drill > breaks out. You cannot have a chamfered edge as this will adversly > affect the static reading so conventional deburring would have to be > done extremely carefully. This relates into higher cost. Doing a > one-off wouldn't be a problem, of course. > We found that drilling the plastic probes left clean holes with good > sharp edges. We are still using the same pitot static head on our > demonstrator which has several hundred hours on it and has had its fair > share of manhandling. We are aware that the pitot static is quite a > vulnerable part, so we are careful with the port wing. Perhaps the > workshop environment is more likely to result in damage than in the > hangar, workshop or exhibition hall. > > Regards > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" > > Paul: > > The easiest thing to do is to take your old one and measure it up to > make a > drawing or sketch, and give to a machinest. It looks like a prime > candidate > to be turned from a piece of 1/4" aluminum bar stock. Mine busted also > and > that's what I'm planning on doing. > > Steve > A143 Mesa, AZ > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Paul Boulet >> To: >> Date: 7/18/04 5:46:15 PM >> Subject: Europa-List: static port problems >> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet >> >> Hi All; >> I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find >> much > helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of > airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the > Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they > might > get them in. >> >> Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the > air? This is very frustrating >> >> Paul Boulet, N914PB >> Malibu, CA >> Still need to fly the 40 hours off >> >> > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:10 PM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: Europa-List: Anyone in the UK got a set of blades for an NSI vp prop? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" Hi All Due to a mix of raised concrete path and spinning blades I am temporally a bit light around the propeller! Does anyone have a set of 62 inch blades for an NSI VP prop they could lend/hire/sell? All expenses paid obviously. NSI are awaiting a delivery of the blades and I do not think they will be there before the NSI crew decamp to OSH for 2 weeks. We could well be out of action for a month otherwise. I can guarantee that if you need your blades back in a hurry then they will be there next day. Thanks Pete Lawless --- ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:56 PM PST US From: "Dave Anderson" Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Filter Funnel --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" Hi, Does anyone out there know of a good source of fuel filters for servicing the airplane? I imagine a filter that would be built into a funnel, which would have a small enough diameter to attach a hose and insert into the tank. I have a filter like this from Summit racing, but it is huge and does not work very well. Thanks, Dave A227 Mini U2 193TT - almost done tweaking....... ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:52 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Filter Funnel --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Up north and on the docks, we used a felt hat............guess there aren't too many left. Ferg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Anderson" Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Filter Funnel | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" | | Hi, | | Does anyone out there know of a good source of fuel filters for servicing the airplane? I imagine a filter that would be built into a funnel, which would have a small enough diameter to attach a hose and insert into the tank. I have a filter like this from Summit racing, but it is huge and does not work very well. | | Thanks, | | Dave | A227 | Mini U2 | 193TT - almost done tweaking....... | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:43 PM PST US From: "Dave Anderson" Subject: Europa-List: OSH camping --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" HI, I am still waffling on flying the Mini U2 back to OSH again with the new paint. Does anyone know of there has to be reserved space in the Europa parking and is there camping possible there? I am planning to throw down a tent if it comes to this. At this point, I think I will make the flight if the seas part (good weather all the way across). Dave A227 Mini U2 193TT ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:15:57 PM PST US From: "KARL HEINDL" Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" do not archive Hi Andy, I ordered two several weeks ago and am still waiting. regards, Karl From: "Andy Draper" andy@europa-aircraft.com Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems -- Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" andy@europa-aircraft.com Dear Paul, There is a limited number of the static probes in stock in the UK.Cost is 3.34 pounds plus P+P.Please let me know if you'd like to order one. Regards Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Boulet Subject: Europa-List: static port problems -- Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet possibletodo@yahoo.com Hi All; I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find much helpful stuff.Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of airspeed and altitude.I tried ordering another couple of them from the Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they might get them in. Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the air?This is very frustrating Paul Boulet, N914PB Malibu, CA Still need to fly the 40 hours off