---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/21/04: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:16 AM - East Fortune Fly-in (William Mills) 2. 06:16 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (N914RB) 3. 06:26 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (James H Nelson) 4. 06:26 AM - Re: static port problems (James H Nelson) 5. 07:38 AM - Re: OSH camping (Cliff Shaw) 6. 07:48 AM - XS static probe (John & Paddy Wigney) 7. 08:28 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (tom@tompaul.com) 8. 08:39 AM - Redux (Ronald J. Parigoris) 9. 08:44 AM - Re: static port problems (James H Nelson) 10. 08:44 AM - Re: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber (James H Nelson) 11. 08:44 AM - Re: Anyone in the UK got a set of blades for an NSI vp prop? (James H Nelson) 12. 08:48 AM - NSI Prop (Erich Trombley) 13. 08:56 AM - OSH Parking and Fuel Filters (Erich Trombley) 14. 10:06 AM - Re: static port problems (Paul Boulet) 15. 10:25 AM - Oshkosh (John & Amy Eckel) 16. 11:05 AM - Redux (Ronald J. Parigoris) 17. 11:13 AM - Re: static port problems (Jeff Roberts) 18. 11:22 AM - Re: Oshkosh (Ronald J. Parigoris) 19. 11:53 AM - Re: static port problems (Andy Draper) 20. 01:00 PM - PFA AGM (Steven Pitt) 21. 01:32 PM - F40 (Paul Stewart) 22. 01:56 PM - Re: Auto Pilot () 23. 01:59 PM - Re: Oshkosh (John & Amy Eckel) 24. 02:01 PM - Re: Redux (John & Amy Eckel) 25. 02:59 PM - Re: europa flyer delivery (Rowland Carson) 26. 03:16 PM - Re: F40 (Gerry Holland) 27. 03:56 PM - Redux pre-warming before use???? (Tony Renshaw) 28. 06:18 PM - Re: F40 (Paul McAllister) 29. 06:58 PM - Re: europa flyer delivery (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 30. 07:09 PM - Re: Redux pre-warming before use???? (DuaneFamly@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:16:12 AM PST US From: "William Mills" Subject: Europa-List: East Fortune Fly-in --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" Apparently the Popular Flying magazine Events Diary is wrong about East Fortune. The Display was held on the 10th July when we were all at Kemble! Nothing there this weekend. Regards, William Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:22 AM PST US From: "N914RB" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Auto Pilot --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" Hi Tom, I tried to respond to your message but it came back to me....two days later! Weird! Anyway, don't understand the problem with the photos but when it comes to email, anything's possible lately. Try sending to: N914RB@earthlink.net That should work as long as no attachment is over 5 megs. Anything else is fine. Thanks for all your help! Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Auto Pilot > --> Europa-List message posted by: > > Hi Dan > I have attempted to send you photos but they bounce with the message: > cannot find host: norwalktuscon.com. > > Send me your address. > > Tom Friedland > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Bish > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Auto Pilot > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" > > > Just wondering if anyone out there has fitted an autopilot (EZ Pilot, > Navaid, etc.) after the cockpit module has gone in. Would like to still > fit it under the port seat but would like some advice on making the > necessary connections at this stage. Bought my kit with the CM already > in. Advice and/or photos appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dan Bish > A144 > Tucson, AZ > Empennange and mass balance tower finished, headed to the fuel system. > > > == > == > == > == > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Auto Pilot From: James H Nelson --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson Dan, I prep'ed the inboard pocket on the copilot side for the Tru-Trak wing leveler. In my opinion this is the best one out there. You flush mount the servo with the actuator arm protruding in the cockpit area with the actuator arm going to the stick. I made up a bolt on unit with a tab that allows for the rod end to bolt there. Then you need only the 2-1/8" opening in the panel. All you need is to put flox in between the skins to provide the support for the bolts. etc. Jim Nelson N15JN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems From: James H Nelson --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson Paul, Get one from A/C Spruce and bond it in and the ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:52 AM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: OSH camping --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Dave I am planning to be there in the reserved Europa parking space just off taxiway P1 ( I think that is what John Email us). Make a sign to show in the windscreen that reads EUROPA . You can only camp with your airplane in the "North 40" parking. There is a place for "Home Built" camping very close to our parking. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 Subject: Europa-List: OSH camping > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" > > HI, > > I am still waffling on flying the Mini U2 back to OSH again with the new paint. Does anyone know of there has to be reserved space in the Europa parking and is there camping possible there? I am planning to throw down a tent if it comes to this. At this point, I think I will make the flight if the seas part (good weather all the way across). > > Dave > A227 > Mini U2 > 193TT ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:03 AM PST US From: John & Paddy Wigney Subject: Europa-List: XS static probe --> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <<<<<< Dear Steve, We originally had the static probes made from aluminium, but found that it was difficult to avoid a burr around the small hole where the drill breaks out. You cannot have a chamfered edge as this will adversly affect the static reading so conventional deburring would have to be done extremely carefully. This relates into higher cost. Doing a one-off wouldn't be a problem, of course. We found that drilling the plastic probes left clean holes with good sharp edges. We are still using the same pitot static head on our demonstrator which has several hundred hours on it and has had its fair share of manhandling. We are aware that the pitot static is quite a vulnerable part, so we are careful with the port wing. Perhaps the workshop environment is more likely to result in damage than in the hangar, workshop or exhibition hall.Regards Andy >>>>>>>>> Dear Europaphiles, I believe that this problem on replacing the static probe may be due to the fact that the black cross-drilled plastic item as supplied by the factory for the XS pitot static assembly may not be well secured in the end of the static tube. Mine fell out at an early date. I recommend that all who have the standard XS pitot static probe check that it is firmly secure. If loose, some Loctite will ensure no further problems. Cheers, John N262WF ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:25 AM PST US From: "tom@tompaul.com" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Auto Pilot --> Europa-List message posted by: "tom@tompaul.com" pardon my ignorance, but there has been no mention of altitude in these autopilot discussions. Do these devices only maintain heading by controlling the roll? Is maintaining altitude still manual? thanks, Dave with the mini U2, having recently acquired a partially-built kit, i am wanting to see as many completed birds at oshkosk as possible. yours sounds great, so i selfishly say: make the trip. I look forward to meeting you and all the rest of the Europa community that will be attending. best, Tom Paul On Jul 21, 2004, at 9:21 AM, James H Nelson wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson > > Dan, > I prep'ed the inboard pocket on the copilot side for the > Tru-Trak > wing leveler. In my opinion this is the best one out there. You flush > mount the servo with the actuator arm protruding in the cockpit area > with > the actuator arm going to the stick. I made up a bolt on unit with a > tab > that allows for the rod end to bolt there. Then you need only the > 2-1/8" > opening in the panel. > All you need is to put flox in between the skins to provide the > support for the bolts. etc. > > Jim Nelson > N15JN > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:45 AM PST US From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Redux --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Hello John Hope all is doing well for you. I am going to be needing some Redux in the future. Can you still get it? How much lead time you need? If you have some in stock, what is expiration date on it? Thx. Sincerely Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems From: James H Nelson --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson Paul, Lets try this again, Get two static ports from A/C Spruce and bond them in and hook them to the system. That should be the fastest way. JIm Nelson ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cold Air Feed to Plenum Chamber From: James H Nelson --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson Duncan, Its one less place where water can get into the engine compartment. I brought my air up from the 914 inlet and ran it to the plenum chamber. Works great Jim Nelson N15JN ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anyone in the UK got a set of blades for an NSI vp prop? From: James H Nelson --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson Pete, I have a set of taper blades I don't need if you are interested. Jim Nelson N15JN ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:51 AM PST US From: "Erich Trombley" Subject: Europa-List: NSI Prop --> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" Pete, Sorry to hear about the incident. I am in a similar situation as you. I purchased a used/never been used NSI from a fellow builder who had the prop blades trimmed at 59" for a direct drive Subaru. I inquired NSI and got the same response. I was all set to install the new prop prior to departing OSH, however, that will have to wait until I get back. Erich Trombley N28ET Mono Classic ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:45 AM PST US From: "Erich Trombley" Subject: Europa-List: OSH Parking and Fuel Filters --> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" Dave, I used Mr. Funnel which filters out crud as well as water. ACS stocks them. Regarding OSH parking Europa is still providing a parking area (I understand that this was pre-paid) and that camping is adjacent. I have spoken to others that have camped and they state they have never had a problem with availability even after a late arrival. Hope to see ya there. Erich Trombley N28ET Hi, Does anyone out there know of a good source of fuel filters for servicing the airplane? I imagine a filter that would be built into a funnel, which would have a small enough diameter to attach a hose and insert into the tank. I have a filter like this from Summit racing, but it is huge and does not work very well. Thanks, Dave A227 Mini ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:51 AM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Thanks to all who replied for my static port problems Paul Boulet do not archive James H Nelson wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson Paul, Get one from A/C Spruce and bond it in and the ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:51 AM PST US From: "John & Amy Eckel" Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" I will be at OSH this year and I am looking forward to meeting other Europa builders. If the Wx cooperates I will be at the Europa forum Tuesday afternoon. I have the good fortune to be flying a friend's 1930 Fairchild KR-21 biplane to the show from NJ. I would like to invite you to come down to the antique area to have a look and we can meet each other if I don't get there until late. Perhaps next year I will be able to bring my Europa...thinking positive. John Eckel, A230 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:30 AM PST US From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Redux --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Hello John Hope all is doing well for you. I am going to be needing some Redux in the future. Can you still get it? How much lead time you need? If you have some in stock, what is expiration date on it? (I posted to newsgroup accidentally) Thx. Sincerely Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems From: Jeff Roberts --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts Quick question, Has anyone used a Cessna type static port bonded to the fuselage side with any success? Jeff A258 Wiring wiring & wiring some more. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:43 AM PST US From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Oshkosh --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Do not archive If you have the opportunity to get to Oshkosh, try not missing taking a look at the KR-21. Check out how you pull off the prop on a tapered shaft with key way. Clever those old folk. Please be relentless asking questions yourself, and having others (many) ask if the installed GPS is "Original". Ron Parigoris John & Amy Eckel wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" > > I will be at OSH this year and I am looking forward to meeting > other Europa builders. If the Wx cooperates I will be at the > Europa forum Tuesday afternoon. I have the good fortune to be > flying a friend's 1930 Fairchild KR-21 biplane to the show from NJ. > I would like to invite you to come down to the antique area to have > a look and we can meet each other if I don't get there until late. > > Perhaps next year I will be able to bring my Europa...thinking positive. > > John Eckel, A230 > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:21 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems From: "Andy Draper" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" Dear Jos. I'm sorry if you have been ignored. It's nothing personal. I'm not aware of you outstanding order (wrong department), but I'll ask for it to be followed up. Your request for a static port is noted, I shall pass it on to Ray. Regards Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jos Okhuijsen Subject: Re: Europa-List: static port problems --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" Why is it, that i can't get anything else then an answering machine and no reply to emails, not even to you Andy? I would like to have that static port. And i would like to know what the status of my last order is. Getting pretty annoyed here, sorry, Jos Okhuijsen Andy Draper kirjoitti Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:42:59 +0100: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" > > > Dear Steve, > > We originally had the static probes made from aluminium, but found that > it was difficult to avoid a burr around the small hole where the drill > breaks out. You cannot have a chamfered edge as this will adversly > affect the static reading so conventional deburring would have to be > done extremely carefully. This relates into higher cost. Doing a > one-off wouldn't be a problem, of course. > We found that drilling the plastic probes left clean holes with good > sharp edges. We are still using the same pitot static head on our > demonstrator which has several hundred hours on it and has had its fair > share of manhandling. We are aware that the pitot static is quite a > vulnerable part, so we are careful with the port wing. Perhaps the > workshop environment is more likely to result in damage than in the > hangar, workshop or exhibition hall. > > Regards > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: static port problems > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" > > Paul: > > The easiest thing to do is to take your old one and measure it up to > make a > drawing or sketch, and give to a machinest. It looks like a prime > candidate > to be turned from a piece of 1/4" aluminum bar stock. Mine busted also > and > that's what I'm planning on doing. > > Steve > A143 Mesa, AZ > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Paul Boulet >> To: >> Date: 7/18/04 5:46:15 PM >> Subject: Europa-List: static port problems >> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet >> >> Hi All; >> I searched archives for text on static port problems and didn't find >> much > helpful stuff. Mine too broke off and I'm getting erroneous readings of > airspeed and altitude. I tried ordering another couple of them from the > Lakeland, Florida office but they told me they had no idea when they > might > get them in. >> >> Does anyone have a good alternative or other ideas to get me back in the > air? This is very frustrating >> >> Paul Boulet, N914PB >> Malibu, CA >> Still need to fly the 40 hours off >> >> > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:00:41 PM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Europa-List: PFA AGM --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" As we were told at the Europa Club AGM we will have three members standing for the National Council of the PFA (Jeremy Davey, David Corbett and Alan Twigg). I have just discovered on the PFA web site that the AGM is to be held at Turweston Airfield on Sat 4th Sept starting 10.30 (although this seems to be for speakers before lunch) with a buffet lunch for those that register and the AGM in the afternoon. a) it would be good if all PFA members could vote for our 3 nominees to ensure that we have a strong voice within the movement. b) It has been suggested that as many as can attend should do so as 1) I am sure that the PFA would appreciate a swelling of the numbers 2) support for our nominees in question would be an additional vote of confidence 3) it could make a good Europa day out. As I intend to attend can I have a note of any others who intend to do so to see if car share/air share is possible. Steve Pitt Builder 403 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:32:07 PM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: F40 --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart I've had a fuel filler cover (part F40) on order from the UK factory for 2 months now with no joy or any explanation. I am therefore looking for an alternative way of covering this area. Anyone got any suggestions / pictures or indeed got a F40 not installed that I could take a female mould from? Does anyone know who the supplier of these mouldings is - perhaps they would be willing to sell direct should they have any stock Regards Paul ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:56:00 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Europa-List: Auto Pilot --> Europa-List message posted by: Tom, Alt hold is available from TruTrak. Just depends on what you want to pay. Conventional wisdom says that the Europa's flight characteristics don't really require it. I'm happy to have some help but will take care of alt hold manually. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Europa-List: Auto Pilot > --> Europa-List message posted by: "tom@tompaul.com" > > pardon my ignorance, but there has been no mention of altitude in these > autopilot discussions. Do these devices only maintain heading by > controlling the roll? Is maintaining altitude still manual? > > thanks, > > Dave with the mini U2, having recently acquired a partially-built kit, > i am wanting to see as many completed birds at oshkosk as possible. > yours sounds great, so i selfishly say: make the trip. I look > forward to meeting you and all the rest of the Europa community that > will be attending. > > best, > > Tom Paul > > > On Jul 21, 2004, at 9:21 AM, James H Nelson wrote: > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson > > > > Dan, > > I prep'ed the inboard pocket on the copilot side for the > > Tru-Trak > > wing leveler. In my opinion this is the best one out there. You flush > > mount the servo with the actuator arm protruding in the cockpit area > > with > > the actuator arm going to the stick. I made up a bolt on unit with a > > tab > > that allows for the rod end to bolt there. Then you need only the > > 2-1/8" > > opening in the panel. > > All you need is to put flox in between the skins to provide the > > support for the bolts. etc. > > > > Jim Nelson > > N15JN > > > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:25 PM PST US From: "John & Amy Eckel" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Oshkosh --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" I meant to mention that the plane has a green fus and white wings. NC206V. John, A230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Amy Eckel" Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh > --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" > > I will be at OSH this year and I am looking forward to meeting > other Europa builders. If the Wx cooperates I will be at the > Europa forum Tuesday afternoon. I have the good fortune to be > flying a friend's 1930 Fairchild KR-21 biplane to the show from NJ. > I would like to invite you to come down to the antique area to have > a look and we can meet each other if I don't get there until late. > > Perhaps next year I will be able to bring my Europa...thinking positive. > > John Eckel, A230 > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:01:44 PM PST US From: "John & Amy Eckel" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Redux --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" Ron, In our phone conversation I forgot to mention that my redux expires the end of this month. It has been at 70F since I got it so it should be okay. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Redux > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" > > Hello John > > Hope all is doing well for you. > > I am going to be needing some Redux in the future. Can you still get it? How much lead time you need? > > If you have some in stock, what is expiration date on it? > > (I posted to newsgroup accidentally) > > Thx. > > Sincerely > Ron Parigoris > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:29 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa flyer delivery --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson At 2004-07-19 19:44 -0400 DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote: >thank you for your always professional and expert work as >MemSec Mike - you're very kind and it's nice to receive appreciation. Perhaps I should say that I'm serving the Club not as a professional (ie one who gets paid to do stuff) but as an amateur (one who does it for love - look up the etymology). regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: F40 From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Paul Hi! > I am therefore looking for an alternative way of covering this area. > Anyone got any suggestions / pictures or indeed got a F40 not installed > that I could take a female mould from? Does anyone know who the supplier > of these mouldings is - perhaps they would be willing to sell direct > should they have any stock I haven't fitted mine yet but I have chopped it around a little to make it fit. There's plenty enough to fettle something of use. I can like others do a photo or you are welcome to borrow to make a mould. I'm in Bath area. I've a nasty suspicion you're 'up North'. Let me know. Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:13 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Redux pre-warming before use???? --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw Gidday, Well if all goes well tomorrow I hope to bond in my module. It is winter here in Aussie, however pretty tame by international standards. I have used old redux once or twice lately, and it is really thick, I think due to the OAT being about 10-15 for about 18 hours a day, and 15-20 degrees for the remainder. So, my question is..........is it wise to attempt to prewarm the redux, only a little, in my tucker box freezer with built in rheostat light, or should I just leave it alone? If I leave it alone, and don't preheat anything, well I will get a longer working life with my redux, and once on I can then raise the temperature of the workshop to about 30+degrees C using my air conditioner. I am tempted with this method, but I will be mixing and applying a coldish redux mix. Chemically I don't really see a problem for a well mixed batch or two, and then the air conditioner should accelerate its chemistry in situ. Any comments much anticipated, and will be appreciated.. Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia Classic 236 B.B. Taildragger Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted Roof Panel between doors completed. Photos at: http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=TonyR&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php&PHPSESSID=902b69917a45f8b18ac84fe3f85a704b Intended Engine: 912S CS prop (model undecided) Instrumentation: Undecided ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:42 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: F40 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Paul, I assume that you are talking about the cover on the fuel inlet. I bought one of these but it really took the most part of a day to trim it and make it fit. If I was to do it over I would make it. Take a look at Tony's WEB site at http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa/272aw.html. Paul 65 hours and still grinning :o) ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:59 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa flyer delivery --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Rowland, While your service to the Club may be as an ametuer, the results are that of a professional. Mikeee ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:46 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Redux pre-warming before use???? --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Hi Tony, Well, here goes my $.02. During our winter, my shop can get pretty chilly. I keep my epoxy and Redux inside a cabinet with a 40 watt lightbulb on all the time. My working epoxy is dispensed from the standard ratio pump. This I keep in a homemade foam insulated box with a 40 watt lightbulb using a thermostat control to keep the temp about 80' (27' for you). I find that I mix better and the less thick mix allows any bubbles I cause to come to the top readily. One other piece of info that I got off this Forum that makes much sense was to also have the parts that you to be epoxied up to temperature also. I have been adhering to these ideas and they seem to be working. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Just about to put the top on but still finding lots of little things to do before that.