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1. 03:56 AM - FW: Administration orders (Peter Field)
2. 05:01 AM - Classic motor mount and installation instructions (Bill Henderson)
3. 06:27 AM - Re: Classic motor mount and installation instructions (Simon Smith)
4. 10:04 AM - Drop of the Hat for Friday 30th August (William Mills)
5. 11:41 AM - Future Europa owner (asdfa afa df)
6. 12:09 PM - Re: Future Europa owner (Duncan McFadyean)
7. 01:10 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 07/28/04 (Graham Singleton)
8. 01:12 PM - Sport Aviation 11/73 (Duncan McFadyean)
9. 01:27 PM - Fw: kit 1ooo missing parts (Rowland Carson)
10. 01:32 PM - Re: Future Europa owner (Rocketman)
11. 01:46 PM - Re: Drop of the Hat for Friday 30th August (Richard Iddon)
12. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 07/28/04 (Dean Wiegand)
13. 09:13 PM - Oshkosh Update (Bob Jacobsen)
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| Subject: | FW: Administration orders |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Field" <peter.field@hgfield.co.uk>
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Field [mailto:peter.field@hgfield.co.uk]
Subject: Administration orders
I would like to add to and correct the information that has been posted
about an administration order.
These are the facts.
Prior to the 1986 Insolvency Act a company that could not pay its debts
would be forced into liquidation. It was found that this was generally
detrimental to the creditors of the company.
Under the previous legislation there was no statutory mechanism which
summarily imposed a general moratorium on the rights of secured and
unsecured creditors whilst a scheme of arrangement or composition or other
rescue package was being worked out as an alternative to immediate
liquidation, which usually reduces the realisable value of assets and
proliferates liabilities. A rescue attempt could be undermined by a creditor
taking precipitate action resulting in the break up of the company, unless
the company had created a general charge and a receiver appointed thereunder
was able to preserve the viable parts of the business by a hive down or
otherwise.
Under this new procedure, which enables the court, in certain circumstances
to make an administration order and thereby put the affairs of the company
into the hands of a qualified insolvency practitioner, a creditor will be
subject to severe restrictions against 'stealing a march' over the other
creditors once an administration order has been applied for.
So, in summary, the administrator will look to do a deal with the creditors
to ensure the survival of the company. The ownership of the company will not
necessarily change as a result of the administration.
I suspect that more information will be forthcoming shortly.
If the administration order has already been effected then you should notice
that all invoices, orders or correspondence from Europa
include the name of the Administrator and a statement that the affairs,
business and property of the company are being managed by the administrator.
Peter Field
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| Subject: | Classic motor mount and installation instructions |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" <europabill@bellsouth.net>
I've got the classic europa and I'm looking for a motor mount and the classic instructions
for the Rotax installation.
Does anyone have a clasic motor mount that they might want to sell? Possibly someone
in the US since shipping would be cheaper...
Does anyone have a copy of the firewall forward installation for the classic that
might could send me a copy?
Please respond directly to europabill@bellsouth.net if you can help with any of
the above.
Thanks,
Bill Henderson
A010
9 years and moving slowly......
Filling, sanding, filling, sanding...........
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| Subject: | Classic motor mount and installation instructions |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
There was a 912 mount for sale in the PFA flea market at the rally. I don't
know if it was a classic or an xs. I also don't know if it was sold or who
was selling it but I'm sure that someone might remember.
Simon
G-BZTN
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Henderson
Subject: Europa-List: Classic motor mount and installation instructions
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson"
--> <europabill@bellsouth.net>
I've got the classic europa and I'm looking for a motor mount and the
classic instructions for the Rotax installation.
Does anyone have a clasic motor mount that they might want to sell?
Possibly someone in the US since shipping would be cheaper...
Does anyone have a copy of the firewall forward installation for the classic
that might could send me a copy?
Please respond directly to europabill@bellsouth.net if you can help with any
of the above.
Thanks,
Bill Henderson
A010
9 years and moving slowly......
Filling, sanding, filling, sanding...........
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Drop of the Hat for Friday 30th August |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Hat-droppers,
Weather looks good for tomorrow, so how about Tatenhill between Stafford and Derby?
Freebee in "Pilot". Say 12 noon? "Some refreshments" quoted.
Regards,
William
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| Subject: | Future Europa owner |
--> Europa-List message posted by: asdfa afa df <ccs_mysticdeath@yahoo.com>
Hello,
I will be going to Oshkosh this Saturday primarily to
check out this wonderful aircraft I have already
received all of the info from Europa and now want to
see it in the flesh.
After reading this Board the last couple of days, I
was wondering, will there be a Europa booth there?,
and if not will there still be Europa aircraft to
checkout on Saturday?
If Europa recovers from this and i believe they will,
I plan to be building my Europa XS tri-gear about this
time next year ;).
Jerry Otto
CCS_MYSTICDEATH@YAHOO.COM
--- Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net> wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft"
> <europa@gate.net>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I can't say what is happening in the UK, as I only
> have responsibility for
> managing their US office.
>
> As far as the US office goes, we are scaling back
> here quite a bit for now.
> As of July 15 the office will be available on a part
> time basis only. This
> is due in part to the fact that the US dollar has
> not been worth much
> against the UK pound for quite some time. Though
> the company initially felt
> it prudent to sell kits at a loss in the US to stay
> in the market, the
> exchange rate continues to be unfavorable longer
> than expected. Though I
> will miss being here full time, I do feel that this
> is a positive step for
> the company to reorganize, focusing it's assets
> where they are needed most
> on new developments & better parts stores.
>
> We will also be selling our two US demonstrators.
> However, we are currently
> planning to keep our hanger & office at the Lakeland
> Florida airport.
>
> I will continue to remain on a part time, volunteer
> basis to support our
> existing builders.
>
> The company president, and managing director, Keith
> Wilson, also informs me
> that he is very committed to supporting our existing
> US builders, and
> delivering any backordered parts to US builders.
>
> I was also informed that the company has future
> plans for the US, and
> Canada, possibly to include the upcoming Sport Plane
> category in the US, and
> the existing Advanced Ultralight category in Canada.
>
> Finally, the UK has just informed me that we will
> not be attending the
> fly-in at Oshkosh this year. I do still hope that
> many of you fly-in with
> your Europa as planned however. The reserved area
> will still be available.
>
> Happy Building & Flying!
>
> John L. Hurst
> Europa Aircraft
> Lakeland, FL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of
> tom@tompaul.com
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: us office
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "tom@tompaul.com"
> <tom@tompaul.com>
>
> I heard today that the europa office is going to
> adopt a part-time
> schedule of weekends, due to lack of revenue. This
> is quite unsettling
> news. While i know there is a strong community of
> europaphiles out
> there (here), to have a plane become an orphan when
> it is only half
> finished is not a nice feeling. How's it going in
> the UK?
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Future Europa owner |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
At last. A positive attitude!!
Duncan McF.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "asdfa afa df" <ccs_mysticdeath@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: Future Europa owner
> --> Europa-List message posted by: asdfa afa df
<ccs_mysticdeath@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I will be going to Oshkosh this Saturday primarily to
> check out this wonderful aircraft I have already
> received all of the info from Europa and now want to
> see it in the flesh.
>
> After reading this Board the last couple of days, I
> was wondering, will there be a Europa booth there?,
> and if not will there still be Europa aircraft to
> checkout on Saturday?
>
> If Europa recovers from this and i believe they will,
> I plan to be building my Europa XS tri-gear about this
> time next year ;).
>
> Jerry Otto
> CCS_MYSTICDEATH@YAHOO.COM
>
> --- Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net> wrote:
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft"
> > <europa@gate.net>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I can't say what is happening in the UK, as I only
> > have responsibility for
> > managing their US office.
> >
> > As far as the US office goes, we are scaling back
> > here quite a bit for now.
> > As of July 15 the office will be available on a part
> > time basis only. This
> > is due in part to the fact that the US dollar has
> > not been worth much
> > against the UK pound for quite some time. Though
> > the company initially felt
> > it prudent to sell kits at a loss in the US to stay
> > in the market, the
> > exchange rate continues to be unfavorable longer
> > than expected. Though I
> > will miss being here full time, I do feel that this
> > is a positive step for
> > the company to reorganize, focusing it's assets
> > where they are needed most
> > on new developments & better parts stores.
> >
> > We will also be selling our two US demonstrators.
> > However, we are currently
> > planning to keep our hanger & office at the Lakeland
> > Florida airport.
> >
> > I will continue to remain on a part time, volunteer
> > basis to support our
> > existing builders.
> >
> > The company president, and managing director, Keith
> > Wilson, also informs me
> > that he is very committed to supporting our existing
> > US builders, and
> > delivering any backordered parts to US builders.
> >
> > I was also informed that the company has future
> > plans for the US, and
> > Canada, possibly to include the upcoming Sport Plane
> > category in the US, and
> > the existing Advanced Ultralight category in Canada.
> >
> > Finally, the UK has just informed me that we will
> > not be attending the
> > fly-in at Oshkosh this year. I do still hope that
> > many of you fly-in with
> > your Europa as planned however. The reserved area
> > will still be available.
> >
> > Happy Building & Flying!
> >
> > John L. Hurst
> > Europa Aircraft
> > Lakeland, FL
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > Behalf Of
> > tom@tompaul.com
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Europa-List: us office
> >
> >
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "tom@tompaul.com"
> > <tom@tompaul.com>
> >
> > I heard today that the europa office is going to
> > adopt a part-time
> > schedule of weekends, due to lack of revenue. This
> > is quite unsettling
> > news. While i know there is a strong community of
> > europaphiles out
> > there (here), to have a plane become an orphan when
> > it is only half
> > finished is not a nice feeling. How's it going in
> > the UK?
> >
> >
> >
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/chat
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm
> > http://www.matronics.com/archives
> > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 07/28/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 28/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>What Future for Europa Customers
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com
>
>Hello Neville,
>
> Sorry you had to be used to pass on the bad news - I refused to listen
> as then
>it would have been up to me/the Club, to once again pass on the statement.
> It's simply not our responsibility. That statement really needed to
> come from
>Wilson - do you know where he is?
>
> Do you have a name and contact details for the administrators please.
Dave
The administrators can be reached by email,
<stephanie.coulter@redman-nichols.co.uk> or telephone 01377 257788, fax
01377 255 433.
Anyone with unfinished business with EMILtd should contact the
administrators forthwith.
Graham
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| Subject: | Sport Aviation 11/73 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Does anyone have the CD archive of Sport Aviation magazines. And if so,
would they be able to send me a copy of hte article in the 11/73 edition
whcih deals with propeller inflow velocity distribution due to cowl blockage
.
Thanks in anticipation!
Duncan McF.
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| Subject: | Fwd: kit 1ooo missing parts |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Following forwarded on behalf of Peter Kember:
>Date: 29 Jul 2004 16:58:56 +0100
>Sender: Peter Kember <pk@klw.co.uk>
>From: Peter Kember <pk@klw.co.uk>
>Subject: kit 1ooo missing parts
>
>when I collected my kit on 26 March 04 I obtained the hitop canoe
>plus moulding but not the reinforcing 3mm foam.I needed about 1ft.
>by 3ft.but have had to buy an 8ft. by 4ft.sheet which has just been
>delivered.If any UK builder wants some Corecell at cost incl.
>carriage please contact me.I may be able to build aeroplanes but I
>have no idea how to send this ,my first e mail to all Europa
>builders in the UK.can somebody help?
Please reply direct to Peter, as you can see, he's not on the
Matronics list (yet).
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Future Europa owner |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
asdfa afa df wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: asdfa afa df <ccs_mysticdeath@yahoo.com>
>
>Hello,
>
>I will be going to Oshkosh this Saturday primarily to
>check out this wonderful aircraft I have already
>received all of the info from Europa and now want to
>see it in the flesh.
>
>After reading this Board the last couple of days, I
>was wondering, will there be a Europa booth there?,
>and if not will there still be Europa aircraft to
>checkout on Saturday?
>
>If Europa recovers from this and i believe they will,
>I plan to be building my Europa XS tri-gear about this
>time next year ;).
>
>Jerry Otto
>
Hi Jerry,
I understand that there are a few Europa at OSH, now and I believe that
John Hurst will be there, also. I don't know if Europa will have an
"Official" presence, but you should be more than able to satisfy your
thirst for knowledge on the Europa. I hope you're right about Europa
recovering, as I am building a tri-gear, at present and need a few more
parts to finish up. Best of luck with your quest, and keep us informed
as to your findings...
--
Jeff A055
http://www.n55xs.com
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| Subject: | Drop of the Hat for Friday 30th August |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
Looks good William.
Just checked Notam,s and there is a ballooning event on about 30 miles
NW of Tatenhill, with a NW wind forecast so keep your eyes open for big
round things hanging in the sky.
Hope to see you there.
Richard Iddon.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Mills
Subject: Europa-List: Drop of the Hat for Friday 30th August
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
<combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Hat-droppers,
Weather looks good for tomorrow, so how about Tatenhill between Stafford
and Derby? Freebee in "Pilot". Say 12 noon? "Some refreshments"
quoted.
Regards,
William
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 07/28/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
when you say unfinished business, do you mean those of us with outstanding
parts?
Dean Wiegand
1901 Madison Ave #110-126
Mankato MN 56001
kit A259 XS mono, short wing
www.dwiegand.dnsalias.com/europa/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 07/28/04
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 28/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>What Future for Europa Customers
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com
>
>Hello Neville,
>
> Sorry you had to be used to pass on the bad news - I refused to listen
> as then
>it would have been up to me/the Club, to once again pass on the statement.
> It's simply not our responsibility. That statement really needed to
> come from
>Wilson - do you know where he is?
>
> Do you have a name and contact details for the administrators please.
Dave
The administrators can be reached by email,
<stephanie.coulter@redman-nichols.co.uk> or telephone 01377 257788, fax
01377 255 433.
Anyone with unfinished business with EMILtd should contact the
administrators forthwith.
Graham
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Jacobsen" <jacobsenra@hotmail.com>
As of Thursday there are 7 Europas in attendance. Cliff reports that the
weather is o.k but a heck of a thunderstorm rain squall came through today.
Andy Draper is scheduled to arrive on Friday and John is coming in -
probably Saturday. Cliff reports he has talked with lots of builders and
everybody is feeling pretty positive. He also went to Burt Rutans forum on
SpaceShip one and said it was just fantastic.
More Tomorrow.
Bob Jacobsen
N165BB
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