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1. 12:28 AM - Europa Wanted ()
2. 01:24 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 07/29/04 (Graham Singleton)
3. 02:56 AM - creditor info [was: Digest: 13 Msgs - 07/29/04] (Rowland Carson)
4. 02:56 AM - Re: Europa Wanted (Rowland Carson)
5. 03:16 AM - Re: Europa Wanted ()
6. 03:25 AM - tri gear kit ? (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
7. 05:50 AM - Re: tri gear kit ? (ivor.phillips)
8. 07:20 AM - Europa Wanted (MICHAEL HOWE)
9. 09:33 AM - Rotax good news and filler pipe request (Annalights@aol.com)
10. 01:29 PM - Location location location (Richard Holder)
11. 01:43 PM - Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... (R.C.Harrison)
12. 01:54 PM - Re: Location location location (R.C.Harrison)
13. 02:21 PM - Week-end Hat Droppers (Roger Anderson)
14. 04:16 PM - Re: Week-end Hat Droppers (Duncan McFadyean)
15. 04:16 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... (Duncan McFadyean)
16. 04:32 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... (Garry Stout)
17. 05:33 PM - Re: Rotax good news and filler pipe request (JR (Bob) Gowing)
18. 06:10 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... (n3eu@comcast.net)
19. 07:35 PM - Tygon hose (Paul McAllister)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <mjbullen@boltblue.com>
Hi,
I'm looking to buy a Europa, either Monowheel or trigear. It must be complete
though.
If anyone knows of one for sale, or a better place to look, I'd really
appreciate the info.
Many thanks,
Mike Bullen.
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 07/29/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 29/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>From: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 07/28/04
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
>
>when you say unfinished business, do you mean those of us with outstanding
>parts?
>
>Dean Wiegand
>1901 Madison Ave #110-126
>Mankato MN 56001
Dean
Yes, whatever. It might also be a good thing to collect a list of people in
that situation,
Any volunteers?, there are people who might be able to do something
positive about this and the information needs to be coordinated.
Alan, should people email you?
Graham
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| Subject: | creditor info [was: Digest: 13 Msgs - 07/29/04] |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004-07-30 08:47 +0100 Graham Singleton wrote:
>It might also be a good thing to collect a list of people in
>that situation
Graham - the Europa Club committee has been working quietly on this
for some time. Interested parties should contact Ian Rickard
<g-iani@ntlworld.com>.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Wanted |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004-07-30 08:26 +0100 <mjbullen@boltblue.com> wrote:
>I'm looking to buy a Europa, either Monowheel or trigear
Mike - I take it you're prepared to travel worldwide to view
prospects, as you said nothing about your own location or your
preferred shopping area.
Your e-mail address suggests you might be in USA. There are less
Europas there than in Europe where you could probably find several
possible candidates.
If my assumption is incorrect and you're in UK, have you checked the
ads in Popular Flying magazine?
And if you're in Australia, I apologise for all the above assumptions!
regards
Rowland
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Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
| Subject: | Re: Europa Wanted |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <mjbullen@boltblue.com>
My appologies, should have said I'm in the UK. I certainly would consider an
a/c anywhere in europe if it was the right one.
Best regards,
Mike.
Quoting Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
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> At 2004-07-30 08:26 +0100 <mjbullen@boltblue.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm looking to buy a Europa, either Monowheel or trigear
>
> Mike - I take it you're prepared to travel worldwide to view
> prospects, as you said nothing about your own location or your
> preferred shopping area.
>
> Your e-mail address suggests you might be in USA. There are less
> Europas there than in Europe where you could probably find several
> possible candidates.
>
> If my assumption is incorrect and you're in UK, have you checked the
> ads in Popular Flying magazine?
>
> And if you're in Australia, I apologise for all the above assumptions!
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
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--> Europa-List message posted by:
Has anybody got a tri gear kit not fitted
that I can look at
Nigel Henry
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| Subject: | Re: tri gear kit ? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
: Europa-List: tri gear kit ?
> --> Europa-List message posted by:
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> Has anybody got a tri gear kit not fitted
> that I can look at
I have a set boxed in the London SE area,
You are wellcome to look.
regards
Ivor
do not archive
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--> Europa-List message posted by: MICHAEL HOWE <BIGBIRDS@compuserve.com>
Mike,
I am looking to sell my Europa for medical reasons.
It is a classic and has done very few hours.
If you would like more details please contact me
on 07778 800820
Mike Howe
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| Subject: | Rotax good news and filler pipe request |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Annalights@aol.com
At least I see there's one bit of good news. Rotax have increased TBO of all 912
engines to 1500 hours.
Has anyone got a classic fuel filler hose they want to sell? Kinda need one a little
desperately.
Patrick Griffin
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| Subject: | Location location location |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
I went to Peterborough (Conington) today.
Parked up was the factory tri-gear demonstrator G-KITZ. I have seen it there
before. According to one of the staff it is Keith Wilson's ! Apparently he
"commutes" there in it, which probably means he lives nearby.
I wonder if the Administrators are aware of its current location.
:-)
Richard
Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross
PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! All.
Fuel Tank Connectors and the restriction in the exit hole.
Having removed the finger strainer gauzes I find that provided you do it in steps,
at the right angle and depth it is possible to "back drill " the restriction
away from the inside diameter of the connector up to 1/4" diameter.
Then of course replace the gauze etc.!?
I am making a permanent strainer gauze to fit into the aircraft filler neck from
a JCB Tank Strainer Part No. P J122/98439 Spec/0 012663/STRAIN. It is smaller
gauge gauze than that issued with my water drain kit.
Costs =A313.30 incl . VAT. Available from the Dealers TC Harrison JCB Ltd. nation
wide in the UK. The diameter is about 3" but after removing the top ring it
is possible to reduce the diameter to the necessary 1.75" by folding the cylinder
of Gauze. It then just needs sizing for length and the top expanding to close
the filler neck and it sits in place and can be removed to check out for
any caught debris.
The PFA are considering this proposal. I will advise developments except it seems
no one else has yet had the problem?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300.
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| Subject: | Re: Location location location |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Richard .....I bet it won't be there for long now you posted that !
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Location location location
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>
> I went to Peterborough (Conington) today.
>
> Parked up was the factory tri-gear demonstrator G-KITZ. I have seen it
there
> before. According to one of the staff it is Keith Wilson's ! Apparently he
> "commutes" there in it, which probably means he lives nearby.
>
> I wonder if the Administrators are aware of its current location.
>
> :-)
>
> Richard
> Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
> Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
> Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
> SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
> Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross
> PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
>
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| Subject: | Week-end Hat Droppers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson" <randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
Do not archive.
Rochester is the host to a microlight fly-in (free beer for all!) on the 31st July.
All types of accommodation and food available plus camping on airfield. Evening
model display - which I can recommend. Contact Keith Reynolds, 01634 200036
or 07775 742582.
Roger - G-BXTD
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| Subject: | Re: Week-end Hat Droppers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Have you forgotten that it's "Talybont" this w'end?
Duncan McF.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Anderson" <randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Week-end Hat Droppers
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson"
<randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Do not archive.
> Rochester is the host to a microlight fly-in (free beer for all!) on the
31st July. All types of accommodation and food available plus camping on
airfield. Evening model display - which I can recommend. Contact Keith
Reynolds, 01634 200036 or 07775 742582.
> Roger - G-BXTD
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Confirmed that I've not had this problem.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction....
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
<ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>
> Hi! All.
> Fuel Tank Connectors and the restriction in the exit hole.
> Having removed the finger strainer gauzes I find that provided you do it
in steps, at the right angle and depth it is possible to "back drill " the
restriction away from the inside diameter of the connector up to 1/4"
diameter.
> Then of course replace the gauze etc.!?
> I am making a permanent strainer gauze to fit into the aircraft filler
neck from a JCB Tank Strainer Part No. P J122/98439 Spec/0 012663/STRAIN.
It is smaller gauge gauze than that issued with my water drain kit.
> Costs =A313.30 incl . VAT. Available from the Dealers TC Harrison JCB Ltd.
nation wide in the UK. The diameter is about 3" but after removing the top
ring it is possible to reduce the diameter to the necessary 1.75" by folding
the cylinder of Gauze. It then just needs sizing for length and the top
expanding to close the filler neck and it sits in place and can be removed
to check out for any caught debris.
> The PFA are considering this proposal. I will advise developments except
it seems no one else has yet had the problem?
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Try as I may, I do not understand the problem you are trying to solve? Is
there a problem I should be worried about?
Garry Stout
N4220S......360 flying hours.
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction....
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
<ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>
> Hi! All.
> Fuel Tank Connectors and the restriction in the exit hole.
> Having removed the finger strainer gauzes I find that provided you do it
in steps, at the right angle and depth it is possible to "back drill " the
restriction away from the inside diameter of the connector up to 1/4"
diameter.
> Then of course replace the gauze etc.!?
> I am making a permanent strainer gauze to fit into the aircraft filler
neck from a JCB Tank Strainer Part No. P J122/98439 Spec/0 012663/STRAIN.
It is smaller gauge gauze than that issued with my water drain kit.
> Costs =A313.30 incl . VAT. Available from the Dealers TC Harrison JCB Ltd.
nation wide in the UK. The diameter is about 3" but after removing the top
ring it is possible to reduce the diameter to the necessary 1.75" by folding
the cylinder of Gauze. It then just needs sizing for length and the top
expanding to close the filler neck and it sits in place and can be removed
to check out for any caught debris.
> The PFA are considering this proposal. I will advise developments except
it seems no one else has yet had the problem?
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax good news and filler pipe request |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
Where are you Patrick Griffin?
I have one still sitting there in my shed but Oz is a long way from most
places!
Do not archive.
J R (Bob) Gowing, UK Kit 327
----- Original Message -----
From: <Annalights@aol.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Rotax good news and filler pipe request
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Annalights@aol.com
>
> At least I see there's one bit of good news. Rotax have increased TBO of
all 912 engines to 1500 hours.
> Has anyone got a classic fuel filler hose they want to sell? Kinda need
one a little desperately.
> Patrick Griffin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection Restriction.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
R.C.Harrison wrote:
> I am making a permanent strainer gauze to fit into the aircraft filler neck...[t]he
PFA are considering this proposal.
The FAA does not approve that for certified A/C, as the course filter must be located
at the tank outlet. The idea I think is to catch stuff such as sealant
or a chunk of gasket which may come loose inside the tank. For the Europa tank
which has nothing like even a fuel quantity probe inside which can possibly
fail to become blocking chunks of something, sounds OK I guess. But something
for the individual builder to consider.
Reg,
Fred F.
R.C.Harrison wrote:
I am making a permanent strainer gauze to fit into the aircraft filler neck...[t]he
PFA are considering this proposal.
The FAAdoes not approve that for certified A/C, asthe course filtermust be located
at the tank outlet. The idea I think is to catch stuff such as sealant or
a chunk of gasket which maycome looseinside the tank. For the Europa tank which
has nothing like even a fuel quantity probe inside which can possibly fail to
become blocking chunks of something, sounds OKI guess. But something for the
individual builder to consider.
Reg,
Fred F.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I have fabricated my own version of the Long Ranger tank system. I used tygon
hose as part of the siphon system that is normally immersed in fuel all of the
time. I found after 24 hours the hose had changed from clear to green and it
was noticeably less flexible. I can't imagine that this is going to work long
term. Has anyone had any experience with this material.
Thanks, Paul
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