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1. 12:49 AM - Re: bad e-mail addresses (R.C.Harrison)
2. 07:25 AM - Re: Aluminum Vents Sale (Ken Stribling)
3. 08:12 AM - Re: Aluminum Vents Sale (xs191@comcast.net)
4. 08:44 AM - Long Range Tank Pics (rlborger)
5. 10:52 AM - Re: Aluminum Vents Sale ()
6. 12:09 PM - A bit of light relief (Simon Smith)
7. 12:39 PM - "Advertising" on the Lists... (Matt Dralle)
8. 01:57 PM - Re: A bit of light relief (Jeremy Davey)
9. 11:43 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: bad e-mail addresses |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Rowland.
I have Jacks address as :- jac.vanheeswijk@hetnet.nt
However he is in America at present so his mail box may be full, he is aware
of the situation and I know he needs an engine mount at least.
I have Peter Austins address as:- p-a.austin@xtra.co.nz he communicated
with me quite recently so it should be good.
Don't know any of the others.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: Europa-List: bad e-mail addresses
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> I tried to contact the following Europa Club members by e-mail, but
> got bounce messages.
>
> Peter & Anthea Austin
> Philippe Dufey & Florence Ottesen
> Luis Roberto Fernandez
> Ian Mansfeld & Frances Fiore
> Anthony & Marieke van Eldik
> Jack Van Heeswijk
>
> If any of you are listening here, please contact me direct at
> <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> to re-establish communication. Don't make
> us spend money on stamps!
>
> do not archive
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
Message 2
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| Subject: | Aluminum Vents Sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling" <ken@striblingranch.com>
I don't know about you but as long as it is not every day little hints
like this help to expand my data base of places to look for plane parts.
Ken S.
A-282 missing doors windows and cowling ;<(
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Boulet
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aluminum Vents Sale
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it violates protocol to do
commercial advertising on this web site... at the very least it's in bad
form.
Just my 2 cents
Paul Boulet, N914PB
Fabian Lefler <fablef@bellsouth.net> wrote:
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler"
I am overstocked with Black Anodized Aluminum Vents, so for the month of
August, I will offer these at $199.00 with free shipping. Regular Price
is $235.00 with a $10.00 shipping charge.
These vents are the same size as Van's plastic vents including the
mounting holes. Our black anodized vents are unique in that we made the
eyeball and mechanism of out aluminum, but the flanges are plastic so
that the corners can be rounded off, just like Van's, and not expose the
clear aluminum.
You can see the vents here:
http://www.affordablepanels.com/aluminum_vents_files/IM001220.JPG
You can order the vents here:
http://www.affordablepanels.com/aluminum_vents.htm
This special is only available during this month, or until I run out of
vents.
Regards,
Fabian
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Vents Sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by: xs191@comcast.net
Paul
I rarely get vocal about these sorts of issues, but in this case I will contribute
my thoughts. I completely agree with you and disagree with Ken. These
lists are no place for a commercial. I agree with Ken that getting information
about a possible parts source is beneficial, but I regard ANY commercial entry
to the list as SPAM. Perhaps there could be a location on the list similar
to the photo share area, where folks can place such information.
Jeff
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it violates protocol to do commercial
> advertising on this web site... at the very least it's in bad form.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
> Paul Boulet, N914PB
>
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| Subject: | Long Range Tank Pics |
--> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
Ferg,
Not to worry. It turns out that Apple has changed the way my public
files can be accessed. I have to setup and publish a home page now.
You have provided me the impetus to set up my home page. This "should"
provide you reasonable access to those pics.
Go to http://homepage.mac.com/rlborger
At the top of this page you will see two headings: Introduction and
iDisk Public Folder (Graphite)
You are in the Introduction page.
Click on the IDisk page header and that will take you to my iDisk
Public Folder.
You will see two folders: BIG pics and small pics.
Click on the small pics folder.
You will get a list of pic files.
Click on the preview eye icon to see a preview of the pic.
Click on the download icon to download a copy of the pic.
Use the drop-down menu to go back up to the Public Folder.
The BIG pic Folder only has a single pic. It is the full sized pic of
the all the parts. It is of a resolution that will allow you to read
the individual parts numbers off the bags. You can go to this folder
and download that image as well if you wish.
I have tried this out and it seems to work.
Now I need to fix up my home page, clean up some odd and ends and see
what else I need to do before I move out and start work on the flap
drive system.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/N914XL
(75%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in,
Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set. Working in
- 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 27 Setting Wings, 29 Main Gear,
30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Vents Sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <fablef@bellsouth.net>
To those that were so easily offended by the posting, my apologies. To be
quite honest that posting was supposed to go to the RV-list only. It just
so happens that I didn't take the time to sort the recipients as well as I
should have.
However, let me say this... I have been in business for three years and
this is only the second posting (business related) I have placed to the
list. A commercial benefit is questionable since I am offering these at
cost, but doesn't the person who buys one benefit from the savings?
Ultimately, that is you, the builder.
Please, please ignore my previous posting.
Fabian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stribling" <ken@striblingranch.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aluminum Vents Sale
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling"
<ken@striblingranch.com>
>
> I don't know about you but as long as it is not every day little hints
> like this help to expand my data base of places to look for plane parts.
>
> Ken S.
> A-282 missing doors windows and cowling ;<(
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Boulet
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aluminum Vents Sale
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it violates protocol to do
> commercial advertising on this web site... at the very least it's in bad
> form.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
> Paul Boulet, N914PB
>
> Fabian Lefler <fablef@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler"
>
> I am overstocked with Black Anodized Aluminum Vents, so for the month of
> August, I will offer these at $199.00 with free shipping. Regular Price
> is $235.00 with a $10.00 shipping charge.
>
> These vents are the same size as Van's plastic vents including the
> mounting holes. Our black anodized vents are unique in that we made the
> eyeball and mechanism of out aluminum, but the flanges are plastic so
> that the corners can be rounded off, just like Van's, and not expose the
> clear aluminum.
>
> You can see the vents here:
> http://www.affordablepanels.com/aluminum_vents_files/IM001220.JPG
>
> You can order the vents here:
> http://www.affordablepanels.com/aluminum_vents.htm
>
> This special is only available during this month, or until I run out of
> vents.
>
> Regards,
>
> Fabian
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Hi all,
To put us all in a good mood again, I propose a caption competition.
The photo is at http://www.todayspilot.co.uk/tp_rally/large/IMG_9827.jpg
There is no prize but I thought it might raise a smile!
Simon
504 G-BZTN
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| Subject: | "Advertising" on the Lists... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>I received a nastygram from an individual who read my posting regarding
>aluminum vents sale, so before the Oshkosh crowds return to the list and
>this becomes a real problem, I'll offer my apologies in advance to the
>group.
>
>Fabian
Listers,
I encourage small business owners such as Fabian to promote their products
on the Lists. I do ask, however, that the flavor of the messages not be in
the traditional form of spam messages, but more in the context of a
personal message. Obviously, moderation is in order as well. The Lists
are a forum for all types of dialog that involve the particular List in
question. If all of the Listers on a given List were in one big room
meeting and communicating in the manner that we do on the Lists, then
people such as Fabian and myself, for that matter, would obviously be
promoting our products to anyone that would listen. In fact, we would
likely be invited to give a presentation on it to the group. The List
isn't about commercialism, but it is about sharing knowledge. This extends
to everyone, including those that provide products to the community.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
"As usual, no comment could be obtained from Keith Wilson..."
"After taking Sally for a ride, Keith Wilson was nowhere to be found"
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Subject: Europa-List: A bit of light relief
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Hi all,
To put us all in a good mood again, I propose a caption competition.
The photo is at http://www.todayspilot.co.uk/tp_rally/large/IMG_9827.jpg
There is no prize but I thought it might raise a smile!
Simon
504 G-BZTN
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
DNA: do not archive
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
Please read over the Europa-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Europa-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Europa-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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