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1. 12:32 AM - Fly - In Gloucester Sunday (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
2. 12:33 AM - Re: Retail source for KILOVAC CAP200 low holdin batterycontactor (Jeremy Davey)
3. 12:57 AM - Lucky-Unlucky (Gerry Holland)
4. 01:00 AM - Re: Subcontractor List. (nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk)
5. 01:19 AM - Re: Lucky-Unlucky (Jeremy Davey)
6. 01:32 AM - Re: Subcontractor List. (Richard Holder)
7. 02:06 AM - Re: Re:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August (Alan Burrows)
8. 03:23 AM - Re: Subcontractor lists? (UVTReith@aol.com)
9. 03:26 AM - Rotax 912 S E.G.T's (Graham Singleton)
10. 03:26 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 63 Msgs - 08/04/04 (Graham Singleton)
11. 03:26 AM - Re:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August (Graham Singleton)
12. 03:26 AM - Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? (Graham Singleton)
13. 04:01 AM - Re: Administrator's questionnaire (Raimo Toivio)
14. 04:01 AM - Re: Re:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August (Alan Burrows)
15. 04:40 AM - Re: Administrator's questionnaire (josok)
16. 05:12 AM - Re: Retail source for KILOVAC CAP200 low holdin battery contactor (rlborger)
17. 05:41 AM - Re: Lightnoing Strike (asdfa afa df)
18. 07:24 AM - Re: Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? (NevEyre@aol.com)
19. 07:36 AM - Re: Retail source for KILOVAC CAP200 low holdin batterycontactor (Augustene Brown)
20. 09:45 AM - Re: A bit of light relief (Garry Stout)
21. 10:03 AM - Re: A bit of light relief (Augustene Brown)
22. 10:30 AM - Re: A bit of light relief (Garry Stout)
23. 10:40 AM - A bit of light relief. (NevEyre@aol.com)
24. 10:55 AM - Re: Fly - In Gloucester Sunday (Duncan McFadyean)
25. 10:58 AM - EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference is normal (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
26. 11:09 AM - Cargas availability in Europe (Sven den Boer)
27. 11:15 AM - Re: EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference is normal (Duncan McFadyean)
28. 12:07 PM - Re: EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference is normal (philip george)
29. 12:34 PM - A bit of light relief (Vaughn Teegarden)
30. 12:55 PM - Re: A bit of light relief (Bill Henderson)
31. 02:34 PM - Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? (Alexander Kaarsberg)
32. 02:55 PM - Re: Rotax 912 S E.G.T's (Jeremy Davey)
33. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Administrator's questionnaire (Kingsley Hurst)
34. 05:02 PM - Re: Administrator's questionnaire (Gavin & Anne)
35. 05:46 PM - Re: Administrator's questionnaire (Tim Ward)
36. 06:36 PM - Re: Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? (Rob Housman)
37. 06:40 PM - Re: Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? (Rob Housman)
38. 10:11 PM - Subject: Re: A bit of light relief (Dan Bish)
39. 10:19 PM - Re: Re:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August (William Mills)
40. 11:39 PM - Re: Subject: Re: A bit of light relief (Richard Iddon)
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| Subject: | Fly - In Gloucester Sunday |
--> Europa-List message posted by:
Hi All
just to let you know ther is a fly-in at Gloucester/Staverton airport this
Sunday
Its being hosted at Cotswold Aero Club and Local strut of the PFA
all welcome I think we call it people meet Pilots There is no charge but try our
raffels and
PFA aircraft landing fee is 10.oo and Gloucester have now made this charge for
all PFA aircraft for the foreseable future
So whats on this weekend ???? U might ask
BBQ so bring some pocket money Tina's bbq chilli sauce is almot a legend !!
Police avaition have given us a chopper with the covers off
RGV maintanaince have the Garmin stand including the new 296 to play with and
the new ( 96c ) well I think that is what it's called! smaller than the new
296 [ see it here first !!!!! ]
RGV are also giving away an electric scooter as a prize check out broken aircraft
and write down the faults
Also try an alectric scooter !!
Excutive Jets have a Citation Jet to look at and could get to see inside. Also
G-TOGO an RV that is stunning !! Well I think so
WestFlight will be there a company who offer commercial training to Pilots with
some Students
Ultimate High should call in with 2 extra aircraft you could try our club
raffel which will be sending somebody to have a day out with Ultimate high for
lessons in aerobatics and dog fighting !
invited aircraft to look at
Stearman
Acro dyn air Bambi
A brace of Long ez bill Allens possibly one of the best in the world !!
Pitts Special
Brand new robins
Brussard Autogiro
Police Chopper
Excutive Jet
Robins
cub
bulldog
RV'S
Glass Air
MY slightly broken Europa will hiding in the back of the hangar ! Hurry up Nev
! I need you !!!
I you want to know more or need Help speak to Tina Mathews at Cotswold Aero Club
01242 713924
Thanks 4 reading and come if u can by car or plane bike or foot
Nigel Henry
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| Subject: | Retail source for KILOVAC CAP200 low holdin batterycontactor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Guys and Gals,
Just an observation that's been puzzling me overnight... Why do we all think
Paul is lucky? He got hit by lightning - which must surely count as
seriously unlucky! I accept that he could easily have been even less lucky
still!
But we always think this, don't we???? Human nature is a strange thing.
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Jeremy
> Just an observation that's been puzzling me overnight... Why do we all think
> Paul is lucky? He got hit by lightning - which must surely count as
> seriously unlucky!
How logical you disciples and followers of your God... Bill Gates are!
I guess you could sell a Probability Module as a part of MS Outlook!
Regards from users of Bewildered Software Inc...... OSX!
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Subcontractor List. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
Considering Neville is now an ex employee of EMIL I think his offer to continue
to give us all the benefit of his knowledge and experience is to be applauded.
Some of us may have lost money through the fall of the company but Neville
and Andy have been made redundant and still make it their business to provide
a support service unpaid. Obviously this cannot go on indefinitely and I
hope that anyone taking over the company realises that they represent the
technical brains of the operation and include them in their future plans.
Their attitude and integrity in these difficult times is to be admired and
it is no wonder that they were both made honourary members of the Europa
Club at the AGM.
Nigel Charles
>-- Original Message --
>From: NevEyre@aol.com
>Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:49:12 EDT
>Subject: Europa-List: Subcontractor List.
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
>
>Hi All,
>Before anyone gets too carried away re future supply of parts, can I let
>it
>be known there are at least three seperate parties actively in talks with
>the
>reciever, all with the intention of keeping Europa alive.
>If anyone out there jumps the gun, it could screw up the whole thing, [
and
>I
>expect that the individual responsable, may not be ''flavour of the month''
>
>with the new owner either ?]
>Also, on a different tack, I am still takeing Tech' Questions on my old
shop
>
>phone number , until BT turn it off ! [ no charge on incoming calls ?]
>so
>feel free to ring if you are really stuck.
>I feel I owe it to you guys [ and gals] out there.The line has a divert
on
>
>it, so excuse any unusual background noises [ it will be the beach next
week,
>
>model planes the next !]...my email is better for me, I can choose my time
>to
>answer.
>Get busy finnishing where you can, give everyone a couple of weeks breathing
>
>space.... companies producing aeroplanes far, far worse than the Europa
have
>
>bounced back ?
>Cheers,
>Nev.
>P.S. Neil France wins my vote so far for the best caption ! I have another
>
>one myself, but I fear there would be too many ***** ******* ***** words
>in it
>?
>
>
Get Tiscali Broadband From 15:99
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Hmmmm... perhaps I won't fly mine in formation with yours. Don't want it
doing anything illogical :-)
Regards to Matron!
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Holland
Subject: Europa-List: Lucky-Unlucky
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Jeremy
> Just an observation that's been puzzling me overnight... Why do we all
think
> Paul is lucky? He got hit by lightning - which must surely count as
> seriously unlucky!
How logical you disciples and followers of your God... Bill Gates are!
I guess you could sell a Probability Module as a part of MS Outlook!
Regards from users of Bewildered Software Inc...... OSX!
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Subcontractor List. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
I wrote to the administrators on Monday making exactly this point. Everyone
else at EMIL can be replaced. Andy and Neville are the technical heart of
the company and of the Europa product.
Richard
Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross
PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
>
> Considering Neville is now an ex employee of EMIL I think his offer to
> continue
> to give us all the benefit of his knowledge and experience is to be applauded.
> Some of us may have lost money through the fall of the company but Neville
> and Andy have been made redundant and still make it their business to provide
> a support service unpaid. Obviously this cannot go on indefinitely and I
> hope that anyone taking over the company realises that they represent the
> technical brains of the operation and include them in their future plans.
> Their attitude and integrity in these difficult times is to be admired and
> it is no wonder that they were both made honourary members of the Europa
> Club at the AGM.
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| Subject: | RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Sorry to hear that Duncan, but keep an eye on it as our met guys say Sat
is ok but Sunday may not be as good in the late afternoon so there may
still be a window of opportunity. Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Duncan
McFadyean
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th
August
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
--> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
The Wx forecast is looking too poor to venture out this w'end!
Duncan Mcf.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Subject: Europa-List: RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
>
> Anyone still need accommodation or transport this weekend? I have
> details available if you need them. Also I will have my car around for
> anyone needing a ride.
>
> Alan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Subcontractor lists? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: UVTReith@aol.com
In einer eMail vom 04.08.2004 22:47:28 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt
rowil@clara.net:
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004-08-04 10:05 -0500 Dean Wiegand wrote:
>Does anyone have a complete firewall back inventory list? I am looking for
>something with all the kit parts kits on one list , hopefully in MS Excel
Dean - sure, you do! It's on the CD-ROM I sent to you in your
new-member pack on 30th April 2004. Look in the folder called
"part-page xref" and open the file "parts.xls". The info is also
included as dBase files (.dbf) and (of course) several linked
FileMaker files (.fp5)
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
Dear Roland,
Please can you send me this CD-ROM too ?
Many thanks in advance.
Bruno Reith
Repkering 36
58791 Werdohl
Germany
Europa Aircraft dealer Germany, Austria and german part of Switzerland
_uvtreith@aol.com_ (mailto:uvtreith@aol.com)
_www.europa-aircraft.de_ (http://www.europa-aircraft.de)
We definately will continue our business for Europa Aircraft and our support
to our Europa builders and we stay behind Neville and Andy.
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 S E.G.T's |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 04/08/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>At other power settings the rear cylinders run a lot cooler than the front
>and there is often an imbalance left to right on the rear. The front
>cylinders are far better behaved.
>
>I haven't tried swapping probes around to see if the imbalance is down to
>instrument error, but doubt that it is. Rather, appalling inlet manifold
>design allied to the shared cylinders not operating 360 degrees apart is
>likely to blame.
I found exactly the same with the 912 and came to the same conclusion. Time
Rotax gave us fuel injection.
I believe Ellison did a throttle body installation for the 912. I had good
experience with one on a Lycosaurus but haven't heard about any Rotax
installations
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 63 Msgs - 08/04/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 04/08/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Two more cents worth: I've also had bad experience with a Michael
>Engineering pump.
>
>I've found the balance shown in the Manual to be quite satisfactory, the
>original sketch of which was done by Rutan many years ago.
>
>Fred
>A194
Nevillle designed an even better one which uses one pot. That gets rid of
the variation due to residue in the cups
Graham
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| Subject: | RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 04/08/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
>
>Anyone still need accommodation or transport this weekend? I have
>details available if you need them. Also I will have my car around for
>anyone needing a ride.
>
>Alan
Alan
I am coming over on the 10:30 ferry, back on the 22:30 one. I might need a
lift to the ferry after Burt's lecture if you are around. I have no idea
how long Burt and Dick will speak. They both have plenty to say about lots
of interesting things.
Graham
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| Subject: | Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 04/08/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
>Gidday,
>I am looking for advice on the removal of the white paint from the engine
>mount. The one that I have is second hand, and a portion of it needs
>welding attention. So, the question is "is sand blasting acceptable, or in
>fact the best treatment, or is there a type of acid bath that will remove
>the paint without hurting the metal" ???
>Tony Renshaw
>Sydney Australia
Tony
Bead blasting is OK it makes the part stronger if done carefully, (by
compression the surface and stretching the inside, oversimplification! )
Grit blasting is dubious.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Administrator's questionnaire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Hi Jeremy!
I got it today (to Finland).
They have sent it for me with extremely
wrong name (R Tovio Esq) and
no street name att all but thanks for
The Great Finnish Postal Systems
I have it.
Regards, Raimo
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT #417
OH-CVK
OH-BLL
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Administrator's questionnaire
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> Just a heads-up for those wondering about how to best contact the
> administrators. I got (unsolicited by me) a questionnaire from Redman
> Nichols this morning. I assume they are going out to all creditors and
> suppliers - but I'm sure the validity of that assumption will become clear
> in the next few days.
>
>
> If you're a creditor I presume it would be best to hang on a few days and
> wait for your copy. Also, perhaps the overseas folks could advise if they
> get a questionnaire too, so we know how wide Redman Nichols are spreading
> their net?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
>
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
>
> 1200 build hours to date
>
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
No problem Graham if you want to stay over and get the ferry back the
following morning let me know and I will find you a bed. Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Subject: Europa-List: RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
--> <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 04/08/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
>--> <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
>
>Anyone still need accommodation or transport this weekend? I have
>details available if you need them. Also I will have my car around for
>anyone needing a ride.
>
>Alan
Alan
I am coming over on the 10:30 ferry, back on the 22:30 one. I might need
a
lift to the ferry after Burt's lecture if you are around. I have no idea
how long Burt and Dick will speak. They both have plenty to say about
lots
of interesting things.
Graham
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| Subject: | RE: Administrator's questionnaire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Raimo,
Nimi olikin oikein, listtu on vaan "esq", se on nimike niin kuin valtioneuvos
:D
Terve,
Jos
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| Subject: | Re: Retail source for KILOVAC CAP200 low holdin battery |
contactor
--> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
Paul,
I did a Google search on Kilovac and came up with:
http://relays.tycoelectronics.com/kilovac/index.asp
That page had the following contact info:
Factory Direct Customer Service
Phone: 800-253-4560
Fax: 805-220-2075
Tyco Electronics Headquarters Customer Service
Phone: 800-468-2023 (U.S.A. only)
Fax: 717-986-3611
Give them a try
Man, what a scary ride. When I was in the Air Force (49 FIS Griffiss
AFB, Rome, N.Y.) we had two F-106's struck by lightning. They were in
flying formation shortly after takeoff and flew between two Cumulo
buildups. One was recovered on emergency systems. The other was lost
along with the pilot.
Forget the lottery ticket, you used up all you luck for that day.
Good flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/N914XL
(75%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in,
Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set. Working in
- 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 27 Setting Wings, 29 Main Gear,
30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
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| Subject: | Re: Lightnoing Strike |
--> Europa-List message posted by: asdfa afa df <ccs_mysticdeath@yahoo.com>
Paul,
Glad you are ok, look forward to hearing all the
details, my future partner and I saw your beautiful
mono wheel at Oshkosh, was hoping to run into you
since I spent the last year reading your builders log,
as a concellation prize I got to meet Andy Drapper ;),
he is a great guy and spent the time to answer all of
my questions. and gave me some good advice I will use
when painting my Europa, plus some of the R & D that
they are doing/considering, how about that for a
teaser lol
Also thanks wily coytee (sp?) also for spending time
to
answer questions.
I am looking forward to starting my Europa about this
time next year. I am very confident that Europa will
Make it through this.
ps my future partner had a hard time beleiving the
wings come off lol.
Jerry Otto
Future Europa builder
--- "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au> wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing"
> <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
>
>
> Paul
> I believe you were very lucky that there was not
> water in your wings. The
> glider accident they talk about exploded, I think
> because water was suddenly
> converted to steam pressure which blew off the wing
> skins.
>
> Every one waiting breathlessly for the report
>
> do not archive
> J R (Bob) Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Oz setting up flap
> operation
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Lightnoing Strike
>
>
> snipped
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
Hi,
Strong paint strpper [ Nitromors] will shift the powder coating, use emery
cloth to get to clean steel, then wash the stripper away with a strong
detergent, dry, and finnish with the paint of your choice after welding.
Bead blasting is OK,[but can be costly] sand blasting can make it difficult
for whoever is doing the welding [ grains of sand can ''hang up'' in the pores
created durring the process].
Cheers,
Nev.
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| Subject: | Re: Retail source for KILOVAC CAP200 low holdin batterycontactor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Augustene Brown <augustene@cfl.rr.com>
No Jeremy, his plane was struck by lightning, Paul was indeed fortunate
to have escaped unscathed.
Augustene
N398JB
Jeremy Davey wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
>Guys and Gals,
>
>Just an observation that's been puzzling me overnight... Why do we all think
>Paul is lucky? He got hit by lightning - which must surely count as
>seriously unlucky! I accept that he could easily have been even less lucky
>still!
>
>But we always think this, don't we???? Human nature is a strange thing.
>
>Regards,
>Jeremy
>
>Jeremy Davey
>Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>Tail done
>Standard XS wings with mods underway
>CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
>1200 build hours to date
>Intended fit:
>Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
>Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
..........."I may not be able to hold my liquor, nor hold my word, but I
sure can hold broads"
Keith Wilson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
>
> Hi all,
>
> To put us all in a good mood again, I propose a caption competition.
>
> The photo is at http://www.todayspilot.co.uk/tp_rally/large/IMG_9827.jpg
>
> There is no prize but I thought it might raise a smile!
>
> Simon
> 504 G-BZTN
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Augustene Brown <augustene@cfl.rr.com>
Garry,
I really hate to bring it up the subject of air to air photos, but did
you ever get yours?
Augustene
Garry Stout wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
>
>..........."I may not be able to hold my liquor, nor hold my word, but I
>sure can hold broads"
>Keith Wilson
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>To put us all in a good mood again, I propose a caption competition.
>>
>>The photo is at http://www.todayspilot.co.uk/tp_rally/large/IMG_9827.jpg
>>
>>There is no prize but I thought it might raise a smile!
>>
>>Simon
>>504 G-BZTN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Augustene,
No, I never got them. Keith promised me a dozen times, but nothing. I
guess in light of what has transpired, I shouldn't be surprised, but all
things considered I'm much luckier than lots of other folks who may loose
thousands of dollars.
How's the RV coming? I'm really tempted to build an RV-10 kit, as soon as
they come out with a "quick build". On the few cross country, overnight
trips I've taken in my Europa, I find that the baggage capacity, fuel
endurance and general cramped quarters precludes any serious long trips.
You know what they say.........if you want a good two place plane, buy a 4
place one!
I hope all is well with you guys. Looks like I need to find a new home as
my airport is closing on October 1st.
Best regards,
Garry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Augustene Brown" <augustene@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: A bit of light relief
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Augustene Brown <augustene@cfl.rr.com>
>
> Garry,
>
> I really hate to bring it up the subject of air to air photos, but did
> you ever get yours?
>
> Augustene
>
> Garry Stout wrote:
>
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
> >
> >..........."I may not be able to hold my liquor, nor hold my word, but I
> >sure can hold broads"
> >Keith Wilson
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
> >
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>To put us all in a good mood again, I propose a caption competition.
> >>
> >>The photo is at http://www.todayspilot.co.uk/tp_rally/large/IMG_9827.jpg
> >>
> >>There is no prize but I thought it might raise a smile!
> >>
> >>Simon
> >>504 G-BZTN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | A bit of light relief. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
Keith is saying '' Ray, get yourself out of my butt for a minute, and look at
what is out here''.
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| Subject: | Re: Fly - In Gloucester Sunday |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>>no charge but ...........................PFA aircraft landing fee is
10.oo<<
Please clarify. Is this ten Pounds to get in? Blimey!
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Fly - In Gloucester Sunday
> --> Europa-List message posted by:
>
> Hi All
> just to let you know ther is a fly-in at Gloucester/Staverton airport this
>
> Sunday
>
> Its being hosted at Cotswold Aero Club and Local strut of the PFA
> all welcome I think we call it people meet Pilots There is no charge but
try our raffels and
>
> PFA aircraft landing fee is 10.oo and Gloucester have now made this
charge for all PFA aircraft for the foreseable future
>
> So whats on this weekend ???? U might ask
>
> BBQ so bring some pocket money Tina's bbq chilli sauce is almot a
legend !!
>
> Police avaition have given us a chopper with the covers off
>
> RGV maintanaince have the Garmin stand including the new 296 to play
with and the new ( 96c ) well I think that is what it's called! smaller
than the new 296 [ see it here first !!!!! ]
> RGV are also giving away an electric scooter as a prize check out broken
aircraft and write down the faults
> Also try an alectric scooter !!
>
> Excutive Jets have a Citation Jet to look at and could get to see
inside. Also G-TOGO an RV that is stunning !! Well I think so
>
> WestFlight will be there a company who offer commercial training to Pilots
with some Students
>
> Ultimate High should call in with 2 extra aircraft you could try our
club raffel which will be sending somebody to have a day out with Ultimate
high for lessons in aerobatics and dog fighting !
>
> invited aircraft to look at
>
> Stearman
> Acro dyn air Bambi
> A brace of Long ez bill Allens possibly one of the best in the world !!
> Pitts Special
> Brand new robins
> Brussard Autogiro
> Police Chopper
> Excutive Jet
> Robins
> cub
> bulldog
> RV'S
> Glass Air
> + other interesting aircraft should arrive throught SUNDAY
>
> MY slightly broken Europa will hiding in the back of the hangar ! Hurry up
Nev ! I need you !!!
>
> I you want to know more or need Help speak to Tina Mathews at Cotswold
Aero Club 01242 713924
>
> Thanks 4 reading and come if u can by car or plane bike or foot
>
> Nigel Henry
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference is normal |
08/05/2004 01:55:15 PM,
Serialize complete at 08/05/2004 01:55:15 PM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Disclaimer - Not PFA or Europa Club Directorate Approved Knowledge
UK Builders Please Avert eyes
From Eric Tucker (Chief Technical Officer, Kodiak, Rotax's only Western
Hemisphere Importer)and Phil Lockwood (CEO Lockwood Aviation, Rotax
Approved Engine Repair Station)
During Rotax Maintenence Seminar, Airventure 2004
(NB there were at least 6 Europa Owners at forum out of about 70 people in
tent)
30 degree C CHT difference is normal -> Use only the rear CHT (hottest)
for decision making.
CHT > 240F will soften head castings despite manual
EGT in cruise should be 1350-1450 for 912s
Do not bother with coolant temperature measurement
Do not use Castrol GPS oil
Pensoil MC oil is fine despite not being listed as semisynthetic
Honda mc semisynthetic oil is also just fine but will never appear in
approved list
TCP additive is fine for engine when using leaded av gas, but it may react
with
plastics in tank or tubing to engine
set Idle rpm to 1400-1800, not lower despite manual
Synch carbs every 100 hrs
rebuild (service) carbs every 600 hr
always start engine at idle to allow function of enrichening circuit
do not bend carb idle stops, make sure quadrant stops protect card stops
at idle position
otherwise idle will get desynchronized
never, ever turn engine backwards!!!!! oil pump runs backward and will
embolise air into engine
this is very bad despite advise on web to do so!!!
gear box should get replacement spring washers at every service, i.e., 300
hrs
when replacing oil filter, rotate to touch gasket, then no more than
3/4ths turn
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Cargas availability in Europe |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
Dear All,
Is there any document or website, listing cargas availability through Europe?
Possibly even with opening hours.
Bottlang doesn't seem to help a lot..\
Thanks,
Sven den Boer
PH-SBR
A168
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| Subject: | Re: EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference is |
normal
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>>> CHT > 240F will soften head castings despite manual<<
That's 109 Centigrade. Are you sure they didn't say 240 C?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: <irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Europa-List: EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference is
normal
> --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
>
> Disclaimer - Not PFA or Europa Club Directorate Approved Knowledge
>
> UK Builders Please Avert eyes
>
> From Eric Tucker (Chief Technical Officer, Kodiak, Rotax's only Western
> Hemisphere Importer)and Phil Lockwood (CEO Lockwood Aviation, Rotax
> Approved Engine Repair Station)
> During Rotax Maintenence Seminar, Airventure 2004
> (NB there were at least 6 Europa Owners at forum out of about 70 people in
> tent)
>
> 30 degree C CHT difference is normal -> Use only the rear CHT (hottest)
> for decision making.
> CHT > 240F will soften head castings despite manual
> EGT in cruise should be 1350-1450 for 912s
> Do not bother with coolant temperature measurement
> Do not use Castrol GPS oil
> Pensoil MC oil is fine despite not being listed as semisynthetic
> Honda mc semisynthetic oil is also just fine but will never appear in
> approved list
> TCP additive is fine for engine when using leaded av gas, but it may react
> with
> plastics in tank or tubing to engine
> set Idle rpm to 1400-1800, not lower despite manual
> Synch carbs every 100 hrs
> rebuild (service) carbs every 600 hr
> always start engine at idle to allow function of enrichening circuit
> do not bend carb idle stops, make sure quadrant stops protect card stops
> at idle position
> otherwise idle will get desynchronized
> never, ever turn engine backwards!!!!! oil pump runs backward and will
> embolise air into engine
> this is very bad despite advise on web to do so!!!
> gear box should get replacement spring washers at every service, i.e., 300
> hrs
> when replacing oil filter, rotate to touch gasket, then no more than
> 3/4ths turn
>
>
> Ira N224XS
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference is |
normal
--> Europa-List message posted by: "philip george" <philipgeorge347@hotmail.com>
Thank you Paul,Duncan,Graham&Ira for your comments on e.g.t's as i have 100
C differences front to rear and was rather concerned with this, the fronts
running around 700 C and the rears around 800 C with side to side ,left and
right within 10-15 degrees so do we put this down to bad distribution of the
mixture.What effects does this have on the efficiency of the engine?More
importantly the poor old pistons ect. Phil George.
>From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT
>difference is normal
>Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:15:57 +0100
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
><ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> >>> CHT > 240F will soften head castings despite manual<<
>
>That's 109 Centigrade. Are you sure they didn't say 240 C?
>
>Duncan McF.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: EGT temp difference unknown, but 30C CHT difference
>is
>normal
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
> >
> > Disclaimer - Not PFA or Europa Club Directorate Approved Knowledge
> >
> > UK Builders Please Avert eyes
> >
> > From Eric Tucker (Chief Technical Officer, Kodiak, Rotax's only Western
> > Hemisphere Importer)and Phil Lockwood (CEO Lockwood Aviation, Rotax
> > Approved Engine Repair Station)
> > During Rotax Maintenence Seminar, Airventure 2004
> > (NB there were at least 6 Europa Owners at forum out of about 70 people
>in
> > tent)
> >
> > 30 degree C CHT difference is normal -> Use only the rear CHT (hottest)
> > for decision making.
> > CHT > 240F will soften head castings despite manual
> > EGT in cruise should be 1350-1450 for 912s
> > Do not bother with coolant temperature measurement
> > Do not use Castrol GPS oil
> > Pensoil MC oil is fine despite not being listed as semisynthetic
> > Honda mc semisynthetic oil is also just fine but will never appear in
> > approved list
> > TCP additive is fine for engine when using leaded av gas, but it may
>react
> > with
> > plastics in tank or tubing to engine
> > set Idle rpm to 1400-1800, not lower despite manual
> > Synch carbs every 100 hrs
> > rebuild (service) carbs every 600 hr
> > always start engine at idle to allow function of enrichening circuit
> > do not bend carb idle stops, make sure quadrant stops protect card stops
> > at idle position
> > otherwise idle will get desynchronized
> > never, ever turn engine backwards!!!!! oil pump runs backward and will
> > embolise air into engine
> > this is very bad despite advise on web to do so!!!
> > gear box should get replacement spring washers at every service, i.e.,
>300
> > hrs
> > when replacing oil filter, rotate to touch gasket, then no more than
> > 3/4ths turn
> >
> >
> > Ira N224XS
> >
> >
>
>
http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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| Subject: | A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com>
How about "OK buddy, drop the babe, turn around, put your hands on the plane, and
spread 'em!"
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| Subject: | Re: A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" <europabill@bellsouth.net>
Hey, I like this one. Kinda fits doesn't it........
Bill
A010
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vaughn Teegarden" <VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Europa-List: A bit of light relief
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden"
<VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com>
>
> How about "OK buddy, drop the babe, turn around, put your hands on the
plane, and spread 'em!"
>
>
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| Subject: | Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg" <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Tony
Bead blasting is OK it makes the part stronger if done carefully, (by
compression the surface and stretching the inside, oversimplification! )
Grit blasting is dubious.
Graham
-- beadblasting and flappeening are techniques employed when surface
hardening is desired, it is a gentle way of coldworking a metal
surface- but while it hardens the surface, it would also become more
brittle.
Whether an engine mount would benefit from that or not would be
interesting to learn from our resident and always helpful
metallurgist, the good Mr. Housman?
Alex #529
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 S E.G.T's |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
I remain amazed that no-one has yet come up with an add-on for the Rotax
that replaces the carburettors and magnetos with multipoint electronic
injection and electronic ignition. The benefits would seem obvious: better
economy, more power, longer TBO, better starting, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I think the Europa community is big
enough to drive such an exercise. Anyone else interested?
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Subject: Europa-List: Rotax 912 S E.G.T's
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 04/08/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>At other power settings the rear cylinders run a lot cooler than the front
>and there is often an imbalance left to right on the rear. The front
>cylinders are far better behaved.
>
>I haven't tried swapping probes around to see if the imbalance is down to
>instrument error, but doubt that it is. Rather, appalling inlet manifold
>design allied to the shared cylinders not operating 360 degrees apart is
>likely to blame.
I found exactly the same with the 912 and came to the same conclusion. Time
Rotax gave us fuel injection.
I believe Ellison did a throttle body installation for the 912. I had good
experience with one on a Lycosaurus but haven't heard about any Rotax
installations
Graham
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| Subject: | RE: Administrator's questionnaire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> Hi Raimo,
> Nimi olikin oikein, listtu on vaan "esq", se on nimike niin kuin
valtioneuvos :D
>Terve,
Yes, I agree. . . . . or should I not ??
Sometimes, when things don't go right, we talk like that too !
Do not archive
Regards to all
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Administrator's questionnaire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Gavin & Anne" <gavanne@iconz.co.nz>
Hi all
Administrators Questionnaire has made it to New Zealand.......
Gavin Lee......#355 and still building
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Davey
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Administrator's questionnaire
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
--> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
I'd expect it to take 5 days or so to cross the pond, Dan - anyone else
over there or in Oz, France, Finland, etc. got one yet?
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Bish
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Administrator's questionnaire
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
No questionaire on this side of the pond.
Dan
A144
Tucson, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Administrator's questionnaire
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
> --> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> The last two paragraphs on page 2 are interesting, though...
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1200 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
> Gilbert
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Administrator's questionnaire
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Gilbert"
> <alangilbert@classicfm.net>
>
> I received mine - I wouldn't hold out too much hope for returned funds
> as
a
> creditor - Have you seen how much the Administrators are charging the
> company?? Jeezus - almost as much as Wilson's salary! ! !
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> To: "Europa Forum" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Administrator's questionnaire
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
<EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> >
> > Just a heads-up for those wondering about how to best contact the
> > administrators. I got (unsolicited by me) a questionnaire from
> > Redman Nichols this morning. I assume they are going out to all
> > creditors and suppliers - but I'm sure the validity of that
> > assumption will become
clear
> > in the next few days.
> >
> >
> > If you're a creditor I presume it would be best to hang on a few
> > days
and
> > wait for your copy. Also, perhaps the overseas folks could advise if
they
> > get a questionnaire too, so we know how wide Redman Nichols are
spreading
> > their net?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> > Jeremy Davey
> >
> > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> >
> > Tail done
> > Standard XS wings with mods underway
> > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> >
> > 1200 build hours to date
> >
> > Intended fit:
> > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Administrator's questionnaire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
> Hi all
>
> Administrators Questionnaire has made it to New Zealand.......
>
> Gavin Lee......#355 and still building
On receiving the white envelop, with the UK stamps I thought, ah ha ..
another
expensive Europa newsletter!!!
I soon realised it was another expensive liquidation!!!!
All the best for those claims from builders, sorry to hear it happen.
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8005
New Zealand.
Ph 0064 3 3515166
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
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| Subject: | Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Wow, I did not realize that I had such a reputation.
Shot peening a metallic surface indeed creates a "skin" in compression thus
partially countering any applied tensile load, which in turn makes the part
less susceptible to crack propagation. It can also "sort of" close minute
cracks that could lead to failure, in a fashion similar to how drilling a
small hole at the end of a visible crack stops the growth of the crack by
forming a blunt end to the crack (crack propagation is more aggressive when
the crack end is sharp).
In other words, I concur.
However, I am less certain that bead or grit blasting can remove the power
coating on the engine mount, and I don't know enough about the coating to
know if it can be removed chemically, but I do know that it is a mix of
pigment and resin that is cured at elevated temperature, and that suggests,
but is not conclusive, that the resin is an epoxy (or other chemically
cross-linking) system which is not likely to be dissolved easily (if at
all). It definitely chips easily enough though, so beating on the thing
with a spray of glass beads may work after all. I'd certainly try.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alexander
Kaarsberg
Subject: Europa-List: Removing Paint from Engine Mount?????
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg"
<kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Tony
Bead blasting is OK it makes the part stronger if done carefully, (by
compression the surface and stretching the inside, oversimplification! )
Grit blasting is dubious.
Graham
-- beadblasting and flappeening are techniques employed when surface
hardening is desired, it is a gentle way of coldworking a metal
surface- but while it hardens the surface, it would also become more
brittle.
Whether an engine mount would benefit from that or not would be
interesting to learn from our resident and always helpful
metallurgist, the good Mr. Housman?
Alex #529
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| Subject: | Removing Paint from Engine Mount????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Oops, that should have read "powder coating" not "power coating."
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alexander
Kaarsberg
Subject: Europa-List: Removing Paint from Engine Mount?????
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg"
<kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Tony
Bead blasting is OK it makes the part stronger if done carefully, (by
compression the surface and stretching the inside, oversimplification! )
Grit blasting is dubious.
Graham
-- beadblasting and flappeening are techniques employed when surface
hardening is desired, it is a gentle way of coldworking a metal
surface- but while it hardens the surface, it would also become more
brittle.
Whether an engine mount would benefit from that or not would be
interesting to learn from our resident and always helpful
metallurgist, the good Mr. Housman?
Alex #529
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| Subject: | Re: A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
Just don't let him hold your money!
> ..........."I may not be able to hold my liquor, nor hold my word, but I
> sure can hold broads"
> Keith Wilson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > To put us all in a good mood again, I propose a caption competition.
> >
> > The photo is at http://www.todayspilot.co.uk/tp_rally/large/IMG_9827.jpg
> >
> > There is no prize but I thought it might raise a smile!
> >
> > Simon
> > 504 G-BZTN
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Duncan and Others planning to visit IOM,
Bryan Allsop and I have looked at the weather and it looks fine for
Saturday, but not for Sunday. If it stays that way, we intend to fly to
Jurby for just Saturday. We plan to arrive before 1100 hrs (1115 latest
accepted) local and return home after the air-show has finished. Why not
join us? If you do, don't forget to do the Special Branch form ASAP.
We could also go to Gloucester on Sunday if you wish.
Best wishes,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> The Wx forecast is looking too poor to venture out this w'end!
>
> Duncan Mcf.
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: RE:I.O.M. Festival of Aviation &th & 8th August
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
> <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
> >
> >
> > Anyone still need accommodation or transport this weekend? I have
> > details available if you need them. Also I will have my car around for
> > anyone needing a ride.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A bit of light relief |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
Thoughts from Mr Wilson,
"Hmmm? I wonder if I can do to these two what I have done to my Europa
customers / suppliers / employees??"
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > To put us all in a good mood again, I propose a caption competition.
> >
> > The photo is at
http://www.todayspilot.co.uk/tp_rally/large/IMG_9827.jpg
> >
> > There is no prize but I thought it might raise a smile!
> >
> > Simon
> > 504 G-BZTN
> >
> >
>
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