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1. 12:34 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Lawrence Ross)
2. 05:19 AM - Re: Throttle setting software (Rob Huntington)
3. 06:25 AM - Supplier of Redux and other Adhesives (Gerry Holland)
4. 08:07 AM - Re: Oil Thermostat? (Rick Sementi)
5. 08:11 AM - Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
6. 08:49 AM - To Brian S (Carpenter, Matt)
7. 08:55 AM - Re: Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? (Gerry Holland)
8. 09:02 AM - Re: Oil Thermostat? (Fergus Kyle)
9. 09:05 AM - Re: Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? (Rocketman)
10. 09:06 AM - Re: Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
11. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Terry Seaver)
12. 10:21 AM - FL 10 Spacer Question (Dan Bish)
13. 10:26 AM - Re: Mod 65 Finger Brakes (G-IANI)
14. 10:34 AM - Re: FL 10 Spacer Question (John & Amy Eckel)
15. 10:51 AM - Classic stainless exhaust fault (nigel charles)
16. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Mod 65 Finger Brakes (Richard Holder)
17. 11:01 AM - Re: FL 10 Spacer Question (Simon Smith)
18. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Jeff Roberts)
19. 11:20 AM - Re: FL 10 Spacer Question (Dan Bish - N914RB)
20. 11:37 AM - EIS (Ronald J. Parigoris)
21. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Tony Krzyzewski)
22. 02:04 PM - Re: Supplier of Redux and other Adhesives (Pete Lawless)
23. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Jeremy Davey)
24. 02:36 PM - Re: Supplier of Redux and other Adhesives (Gerry Holland)
25. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (DJGeldermann)
26. 02:50 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Jeremy Davey)
27. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Gerry Holland)
28. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Vaughn Teegarden)
29. 03:39 PM - Mod 65 Finger Brakes Master Cylinder Supplier (Tony Renshaw)
30. 03:42 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Tony Krzyzewski)
31. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Tony Krzyzewski)
32. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Jeremy Davey)
33. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Jeremy Davey)
34. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Alexander Kaarsberg)
35. 04:41 PM - Re: EIS (Jim Brown)
36. 04:50 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Vaughn Teegarden)
37. 05:09 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (Rocketman)
38. 07:15 PM - Re: Classic stainless exhaust fault (Cliff Shaw)
39. 07:18 PM - Re: EIS (James Nelson)
40. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 (James Nelson)
41. 08:14 PM - Re: EIS ()
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| Subject: | RE: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
0.8 SARE_SXLIFE BODY: Talks about your sex life
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Lawrence Ross" <LROSS5@kc.rr.com>
Hi Ron,
Many years ago when I was turning wrenches on a ProRally car, we
used an oil thermostat and as I understand the system, it's main purpose
is to restrict the flow to the cooler so the oil warms up faster.
Typically they run about 10% through the cooler when "closed" (to
prevent sludging and and a cold slug of oil when they do open) and 90%
when open. Generally once they are open the engine is making enough heat
they stay that way. I don't recall the catalogue right off, but recently
I was helping a friend research t-stats for a Jabiru installation and
the t-stat simply replaced the "biscuit" style oil cooler adapter, so
there was no extra plumbing.
Getting the oil up to temp quickly sound like a great idea on an
engine that doesn't usually ground run too long before the takeoff load
is applied. (like most small planes).
BTW, did you and your partner ever get that X-Plane Europa
worked out?
Just my two cents,
Larry Ross
Wannabee builder
-10% and 110% to go
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__________________________
>Time: 01:50:06 PM PST US
>From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>Subject: Europa-List: Oil Thermostat?
>
>-> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
<rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
>Was looking at lockwood Catalogue today and noticed that they sell for
912/914
>a thermostat to keep oil at 180 degrees. Anyone ever fool with one of
these?
>
>Ron Parigoris
>A-265
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle setting software |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington <robertodue2002@yahoo.com>
We have downloaded the software and have used it together with Paul Boulet. Feel
free to stop by and we can discuss its use, it's pretty easy.
Rob Huntington
Phoenix Composites
Rob Huntington
Phoenix Composites
4863 E. Falcon Dr.
Mesa, AZ 85215
ph (480) 924-9750
email robertodue2002@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Supplier of Redux and other Adhesives |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
This is not blatant advertising but in the light of the present difficulty
in supplies not forthcoming from Europa Aircraft I'm posting the following
from a Customer of mine who some of you know in UK.
Sil-Mid Limited Can supply the full range of Araldite and Redux Adhesives to
end users building aircraft. Product is supplied with a certificate of
Conformity and full batch traceability. We also have field based technical
support who can advise on usage and application of the products.
e.g Araldite 420 1.4kg 2 part kit 54.38
Also available in cartridges.
Product can be ordered on-line at www.silmid.com <http://www.silmid.com>
for despatch from our UK distribution centre nr Birmingham. For orders over
50 delivery is free. We are delighted to support private flyers and
builders with our vast experience of all non metallic consumables. We also
supply everything from Piston Oil to instrument wipes.
Sil-Mid have supplied the UK aerospace industry for 25 years and are fully
approved by BAE Systems and Airbus UK. Please see our details below. Visit
the website for more information:
Sil-Mid Limited
2 Roman Park
Roman Way
Coleshill
B46 1HG
T: 0845 130 1110
F: 0845 130 2220
E: info@silmid.com
They are a very willing to supplier giving good service.
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Engine very near to starting.
Painting completed. Vinyl design scheme to be added.
Completing Wiring to Panel.
Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted.
Shoulder Width Mod. Heater Unit constructed and fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rick Sementi" <rsementi@hotmail.com>
Hello again Ron,
I am still thinking of getting the Europa so any good info you get about
this plane or the Rotax, please cc me (like this thermostat).
Thanks, Richard
>From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Oil Thermostat?
>Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:47:33 -0400
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
><rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
>Was looking at lockwood Catalogue today and noticed that they sell for
>912/914
>a thermostat to keep oil at 180 degrees. Anyone ever fool with one of
>these?
>
>Ron Parigoris
>A-265
>
>
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| Subject: | Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Can anyone tell me if there is any difference in Epibond 420 and Araldite
420? My kit was shipped with both of these adhesives in place of the Redux. <
I'm Guessing>
Looking at the information on the Huntsman information <
http://www.huntsman.com/structural-adhesives/Media/brochure_aerospace_USA.pdf > The Epibond and
Aradite are in the same category of adhesives but it mentions the colors are
different. Blue Green / Dark Green... Hum.
Also I noted that my exparation dates are diffrent on the two product. One is
12 months. The other is good for 24 months...
The Aradite's hardener comes in a glass 16 oz soda bottle. The Epibond are
potted in tins.
Help!
This cowboy is confused!
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
See my build photos at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carpenter, Matt" <mcarpenter@concordefs.com>
Where in Texas do you live?
Contact me offlist if you like.. mcarpenter@concordefs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Subject: Europa-List: Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux?
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Can anyone tell me if there is any difference in Epibond 420 and Araldite
420? My kit was shipped with both of these adhesives in place of the Redux.
<
I'm Guessing>
Looking at the information on the Huntsman information <
http://www.huntsman.com/structural-adhesives/Media/brochure_aerospace_USA.pd
f > The Epibond and
Aradite are in the same category of adhesives but it mentions the colors are
different. Blue Green / Dark Green... Hum.
Also I noted that my exparation dates are diffrent on the two product. One
is
12 months. The other is good for 24 months...
The Aradite's hardener comes in a glass 16 oz soda bottle. The Epibond are
potted in tins.
Help!
This cowboy is confused!
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
See my build photos at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | Re: Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Brian
Try this site.
If you register you can get technical data sheets.
http://www.adhesives.vantico.com/ourProducts/aerospace/productTable.asp?mark
et=civil
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Thermostat? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Rick,
The only oil thermostat I''ve ever encountered was one which
bypassed the cold oil by the cooler untiul it warmed - otherwise we were
informed the cold, sludgy oil can burst the fine tubes in the cooler.
Ferg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Sementi" <rsementi@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil Thermostat?
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rick Sementi" <rsementi@hotmail.com>
|
| Hello again Ron,
|
| I am still thinking of getting the Europa so any good info you get about
| this plane or the Rotax, please cc me (like this thermostat).
| Thanks, Richard
|
|
| >From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
| >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
| >To: europa-list@matronics.com
| >Subject: Europa-List: Oil Thermostat?
| >Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:47:33 -0400
| >
| >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
| ><rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
| >
| >Was looking at lockwood Catalogue today and noticed that they sell for
| >912/914
| >a thermostat to keep oil at 180 degrees. Anyone ever fool with one of
| >these?
| >
| >Ron Parigoris
| >A-265
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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| Subject: | Re: Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
>
>Can anyone tell me if there is any difference in Epibond 420 and Araldite
>420? My kit was shipped with both of these adhesives in place of the Redux. <
>I'm Guessing>
>
>Looking at the information on the Huntsman information <
>http://www.huntsman.com/structural-adhesives/Media/brochure_aerospace_USA.pdf > The Epibond and
>Aradite are in the same category of adhesives but it mentions the colors are
>different. Blue Green / Dark Green... Hum.
>
>Also I noted that my exparation dates are diffrent on the two product. One is
>12 months. The other is good for 24 months...
>The Aradite's hardener comes in a glass 16 oz soda bottle. The Epibond are
>potted in tins.
> Help!
>This cowboy is confused!
>
>
>
Brian,
It is my understanding that the two are interchangable (mixed with their
respective hardeners, that is).
--
Jeff A055
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| Subject: | Re: Epibond 420 / Araldite 420/ Redux? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Thanks Gerry.
It is looking as though these may be two different products. I was hoping
that they were compatible and could be mixed. I do not understand why I was
shipped two different adhesives!
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
See my build photos at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Steve,
"Fair and balanced" hardly describes the contents of the web site you
pointed us to.
Should the US decide on another term for the Neo Cons, I may also
consider moving to NZ.
Terry Seaver
A135/N135TD
Steve Crimm wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>
>Just so we keep it fair and balanced...lol
>
>http://www.kerrylied.com/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray McDonnell
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ray McDonnell" <vze2dxrd@verizon.net>
>
>Here you go Tom http://www.seeyageorge.com/
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Graham Singleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
>
>
>
>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
>>
>>
><graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>
>
>>At 23:56 14/08/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I appreciate your note. You are in NZ and I can probably have one made
>>>(If I can find some plans..) for about what it would cost to ship yours.
>>>If I can't do something else, I will get back to you. Thanks
>>>Tom Friedland (Or, if Bush is reelected, I'll just ship my Europa to NZ
>>>and move there myself...)
>>>
>>>
>>You and a lot more! The Shrub is the biggest danger on the planet right
>>now,imho of course
>>Graham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | FL 10 Spacer Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
Can anyone out there take a minute to check the dimensions of the FL10 spacer and
send to me? It's a spacer that goes at the front connection of the rudder cables,
2 off, shown on Figure 4 Page 22-8.
Some of the items in my kit aren't marked and I'm having a tough time figuring
out which of the assorted spacers I have would work best. I have 4 of the OR9
spacers and maybe could use them on both sides?
Thanks in advance,
Dan Bish
N914XS - Mono, short wings, 914.
Kit A144
Tucson, AZ
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| Subject: | RE: Mod 65 Finger Brakes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Can anyone, in the UK, help with a source for the Jamar brake master
cylinder used in the finger brake kit.
I seem to remember that someone reported they had come across the supplier
Europa used by accident.
This will make one builder happy for a while.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.coma supplier of the
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| Subject: | Re: FL 10 Spacer Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
My FL10 spacers are .279 inches.
John, A230
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Bish" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: FL 10 Spacer Question
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
>
> Can anyone out there take a minute to check the dimensions of the FL10
spacer and send to me? It's a spacer that goes at the front connection of
the rudder cables, 2 off, shown on Figure 4 Page 22-8.
>
> Some of the items in my kit aren't marked and I'm having a tough time
figuring out which of the assorted spacers I have would work best. I have 4
of the OR9 spacers and maybe could use them on both sides?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dan Bish
> N914XS - Mono, short wings, 914.
> Kit A144
> Tucson, AZ
>
>
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| Subject: | Classic stainless exhaust fault |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
I thought I would pass on something I have recently discovered about the Classic
stainless exhaust.
The port rear manifold on mine has cracked right around the collar weld just after
the flange. It has been examined by CKT (the manufacturer) and they tell me
that there have been a few of these fail (all port rear). Apparently CKT did
not do the jigging and it was found that the port rear was slightly out of position.
All this was corrected about 18 months ago so anyone with one of these
exhausts older than this should check theirs for signs of cracking.
I must say that Chris Piper (the CKT representative I spoke to) was extremely helpful.
He is going to make another one for me inside 10 days for =A358 + VAT
which I think is very reasonable.
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Mod 65 Finger Brakes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
jamar performance <jamar1@gte.net>
frank in tek support thank you at 909-245-6050
Not too hot at replying especially after I complained about the quality of
the machining ! Luckily John Hurst (who I bought it off) sent me a new one a
couple of weeks before the nasty crash !
Richard
Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross
PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
>
> Can anyone, in the UK, help with a source for the Jamar brake master
> cylinder used in the finger brake kit.
>
> I seem to remember that someone reported they had come across the supplier
> Europa used by accident.
>
> This will make one builder happy for a while.
>
> Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
> Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
> e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
> or direct g-iani@ntlworld.coma supplier of the
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| Subject: | FL 10 Spacer Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Have a look at Page 1-4 of your build manual. There you will find a table
with a list of the various spacers.
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Bish
Subject: Europa-List: FL 10 Spacer Question
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
Can anyone out there take a minute to check the dimensions of the FL10
spacer and send to me? It's a spacer that goes at the front connection of
the rudder cables, 2 off, shown on Figure 4 Page 22-8.
Some of the items in my kit aren't marked and I'm having a tough time
figuring out which of the assorted spacers I have would work best. I have 4
of the OR9 spacers and maybe could use them on both sides?
Thanks in advance,
Dan Bish
N914XS - Mono, short wings, 914.
Kit A144
Tucson, AZ
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
This thread could go on forever so we better cut the politics guys. But
since I'm here, you all should know they are both being driven for all the
wrong reasons and they always will until we have real campaign reform.
Jeff
A258
>
> "Fair and balanced" hardly describes the contents of the web site you
> pointed us to.
> Should the US decide on another term for the Neo Cons, I may also
> consider moving to NZ.
>
> Terry Seaver
> A135/N135TD
>
> Steve Crimm wrote:
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm"
>> <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>>
>> Just so we keep it fair and balanced...lol
>>
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| Subject: | Re: FL 10 Spacer Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish - N914RB" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
Thanks for the replies Simon and John. Never noticed that chart before. Will
have to pick up some tubing while I'm out.
Thanks again and happy building,
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: FL 10 Spacer Question
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
>
> Have a look at Page 1-4 of your build manual. There you will find a table
> with a list of the various spacers.
>
> Simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Bish
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: FL 10 Spacer Question
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <N914RB@earthlink.net>
>
> Can anyone out there take a minute to check the dimensions of the FL10
> spacer and send to me? It's a spacer that goes at the front connection of
> the rudder cables, 2 off, shown on Figure 4 Page 22-8.
>
> Some of the items in my kit aren't marked and I'm having a tough time
> figuring out which of the assorted spacers I have would work best. I have
4
> of the OR9 spacers and maybe could use them on both sides?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dan Bish
> N914XS - Mono, short wings, 914.
> Kit A144
> Tucson, AZ
>
>
> advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Anyone ot there flying with just an EIS with no Engine Steam Gauges and find it
acceptable?
What EIS?
thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>>> I may also consider moving to NZ.
Looks like I'll have to add a few more bedrooms if you all end up coming
here!
There are some downsides to flying in NZ...
There's no class A or B airspace
There are less than 10 controlled airfields with class C
airspace
Auckland International Airport charges US15 landing fees for a
Europa (if you can get in between the 747 landings that is)
There are lots of unmanned airfields
There's miles and miles of untamed bush to fly over
I can't work out why anyone would want to come here
:)
Tony
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| Subject: | Supplier of Redux and other Adhesives |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Before anyone moans at you about advertising on the list 'Good one Gerry
thanks for the useful info'.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry
Holland
Subject: Europa-List: Supplier of Redux and other Adhesives
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
This is not blatant advertising but in the light of the present
difficulty in supplies not forthcoming from Europa Aircraft I'm posting
the following from a Customer of mine who some of you know in UK.
Sil-Mid Limited Can supply the full range of Araldite and Redux
Adhesives to end users building aircraft. Product is supplied with a
certificate of Conformity and full batch traceability. We also have
field based technical support who can advise on usage and application of
the products.
e.g Araldite 420 1.4kg 2 part kit 54.38
Also available in cartridges.
Product can be ordered on-line at www.silmid.com <http://www.silmid.com>
for despatch from our UK distribution centre nr Birmingham. For orders
over 50 delivery is free. We are delighted to support private flyers and
builders with our vast experience of all non metallic consumables. We
also supply everything from Piston Oil to instrument wipes.
Sil-Mid have supplied the UK aerospace industry for 25 years and are
fully approved by BAE Systems and Airbus UK. Please see our details
below. Visit the website for more information:
Sil-Mid Limited
2 Roman Park
Roman Way
Coleshill
B46 1HG
T: 0845 130 1110
F: 0845 130 2220
E: info@silmid.com
They are a very willing to supplier giving good service.
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Engine very near to starting.
Painting completed. Vinyl design scheme to be added.
Completing Wiring to Panel.
Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted.
Shoulder Width Mod. Heater Unit constructed and fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
==
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Must be your wit and charm, Tony! :-)
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Krzyzewski
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>>> I may also consider moving to NZ.
Looks like I'll have to add a few more bedrooms if you all end up coming
here!
There are some downsides to flying in NZ...
There's no class A or B airspace
There are less than 10 controlled airfields with class C
airspace
Auckland International Airport charges US15 landing fees for a
Europa (if you can get in between the 747 landings that is)
There are lots of unmanned airfields
There's miles and miles of untamed bush to fly over
I can't work out why anyone would want to come here
:)
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Supplier of Redux and other Adhesives |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
> Before anyone moans at you about advertising on the list 'Good one Gerry
> thanks for the useful info'.
Thanks Pete!
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "DJGeldermann" <djgeldermann@cox.net>
Tony,
Add those bedrooms, you might have takers no matter which way the election
goes since it looks like a 50/50 split at the moment. I'll want to move if
Kerry wins.
Dan
A-139
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> Must be your wit and charm, Tony! :-)
>
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1200 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Krzyzewski
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
> >>> I may also consider moving to NZ.
>
> Looks like I'll have to add a few more bedrooms if you all end up coming
> here!
>
> There are some downsides to flying in NZ...
> There's no class A or B airspace
> There are less than 10 controlled airfields with class C
> airspace
> Auckland International Airport charges US15 landing fees for a
> Europa (if you can get in between the 747 landings that is)
> There are lots of unmanned airfields
> There's miles and miles of untamed bush to fly over
>
>
> I can't work out why anyone would want to come here
>
> :)
>
> Tony
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Tony,
Looks like you've got an influx coming, mate! I envy them.
Can you advise of current immigration requirements? Are criminal records
still required??? :-)
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJGeldermann
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
--> Europa-List message posted by: "DJGeldermann" <djgeldermann@cox.net>
Tony,
Add those bedrooms, you might have takers no matter which way the election
goes since it looks like a 50/50 split at the moment. I'll want to move if
Kerry wins.
Dan
A-139
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> Must be your wit and charm, Tony! :-)
>
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1200 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Krzyzewski
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
> >>> I may also consider moving to NZ.
>
> Looks like I'll have to add a few more bedrooms if you all end up coming
> here!
>
> There are some downsides to flying in NZ...
> There's no class A or B airspace
> There are less than 10 controlled airfields with class C
> airspace
> Auckland International Airport charges US15 landing fees for a
> Europa (if you can get in between the 747 landings that is)
> There are lots of unmanned airfields
> There's miles and miles of untamed bush to fly over
>
>
> I can't work out why anyone would want to come here
>
> :)
>
> Tony
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
> Can you advise of current immigration requirements? Are criminal records
> still required??? :-)
I hope so! It gives a bit of character to a Country.....
Not like the B.liar's 'Thought policed' UK.
Got to go! Blue lights flashing outside....
Europa 384 G-FIZY (About to be impounded!)
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Engine very near to starting.
Painting completed. Vinyl design scheme to be added.
Completing Wiring to Panel.
Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted.
Shoulder Width Mod. Heater Unit constructed and fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com>
How are your gun laws? I'm concerned. Nice meeting you at Sun-n-Fun.
"armed to the teeth"
Vaughn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
> >>> I may also consider moving to NZ.
>
> Looks like I'll have to add a few more bedrooms if you all end up coming
> here!
>
> There are some downsides to flying in NZ...
> There's no class A or B airspace
> There are less than 10 controlled airfields with class C
> airspace
> Auckland International Airport charges US15 landing fees for a
> Europa (if you can get in between the 747 landings that is)
> There are lots of unmanned airfields
> There's miles and miles of untamed bush to fly over
>
>
> I can't work out why anyone would want to come here
>
> :)
>
> Tony
>
>
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| Subject: | Mod 65 Finger Brakes Master Cylinder Supplier |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
Well if you only want someone in the UK as a finger brake supplier, the
answer is no. But, since the rest of the world is out here, the
manufacturer is Jamar Performance in the US, the part no is a US2002X and
the contact is Frank on
jamar1@gte.net
Web address is:
http://jamarperformance.com/Default.htm
Hope this helps.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Hope this helps.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
At 03:26 AM 8/17/2004, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
>
>Can anyone, in the UK, help with a source for the Jamar brake master
>cylinder used in the finger brake kit.
>
>I seem to remember that someone reported they had come across the supplier
>Europa used by accident.
>
>This will make one builder happy for a while.
>
>Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
>Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
>e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
> or direct g-iani@ntlworld.coma supplier of the
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> Can you advise of current immigration requirements? Are criminal
records still required??? :-)
Sorry, but you've confused New Zealand with Australia there! We were
never a penal colony.
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> How are your gun laws? I'm concerned. Nice meeting you at Sun-n-Fun.
Prohibited except to registered hunters and sports people and we do not
have the right to bear arms. We also aren't allow to sue for personal
accident or injury as that's automatically covered by a government
accident insurance scheme and that really cuts down the cost of
insurance cover for a Europa.
Tony
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>>> Got to go! Blue lights flashing outside....
Oh no!!! They didn't bring the white coats with the sewn-in sleeves again,
did they?
Regards to Matron :-)
Cheers,
JD
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Ooops, sorry, Tony! Got the sheep-rustlers and the sheep-*******s confused
:-)
OK, OK, I admit it, I'm a Cumbrian :-) I'll come quietly...
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Krzyzewski
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> Can you advise of current immigration requirements? Are criminal
records still required??? :-)
Sorry, but you've confused New Zealand with Australia there! We were
never a penal colony.
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg" <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Watch yourself Gram... Perhaps a bit more humble and a little less
opinion is in order.
Yes Graham, don't forget to read up on the new definitions of Freedom
(worldwide patent pending)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Ron;
We have the Grand Rapids EIS. With over 500 + hrs on it. No problems at all.
It took 2 or 3 hrs to get comfortable with going from page to page to monitor the
engine
parameters. There is a favorite page function of which I use just about all the
time. It
has parameters which can be set for "high or low settings" on each item it monitors.
Its much better than the steam gauges in my opinion.
Jim Brown
N398JB
"Ronald J. Parigoris" wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
> Anyone ot there flying with just an EIS with no Engine Steam Gauges and find
it
> acceptable?
>
> What EIS?
>
> thx.
> Ron Parigoris
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com>
I like the insurance part. I'm thinking of running for pres with a two part
platform:
1. Disbar all lawyers
2. Eliminate all forms of insurance
Think I have a chance?
"armed to the teeth in the USA"
Vaughn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
>
> >> How are your gun laws? I'm concerned. Nice meeting you at Sun-n-Fun.
>
> Prohibited except to registered hunters and sports people and we do not
> have the right to bear arms. We also aren't allow to sue for personal
> accident or injury as that's automatically covered by a government
> accident insurance scheme and that really cuts down the cost of
> insurance cover for a Europa.
>
> Tony
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
Vaughn Teegarden wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com>
>
>I like the insurance part. I'm thinking of running for pres with a two part
>platform:
>
>1. Disbar all lawyers
>
>2. Eliminate all forms of insurance
>
>Think I have a chance?
>
>"armed to the teeth in the USA"
>Vaughn
>
>
You got my vote! ;)
--
Jeff - Also armed and teaching others how to defend themselves...
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Classic stainless exhaust fault |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
All
It appears that the classic is not the only Silencer" that has this problem.
Chris is working with me and the exact same thing has happened to my 912S
"silencer". The aft Port connector socket was not welded properly and has
broken loose.
I used a currency converter service I found on the web, and you are correct.
190 GBP = $349.64 USD . Ouch !!!
But if I can get it, I will have to pay the price. You guys in the UK sure
do have a lot of money. And I was under the impression the USA was where
things where expensive.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
----- Original Message -----
From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Classic stainless exhaust fault
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
<nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> I thought I would pass on something I have recently discovered about the
Classic stainless exhaust.
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> The port rear manifold on mine has cracked right around the collar weld
just after the flange. It has been examined by CKT (the manufacturer) and
they tell me that there have been a few of these fail (all port rear).
Apparently CKT did not do the jigging and it was found that the port rear
was slightly out of position. All this was corrected about 18 months ago so
anyone with one of these exhausts older than this should check theirs for
signs of cracking.
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> I must say that Chris Piper (the CKT representative I spoke to) was
extremely helpful. He is going to make another one for me inside 10 days for
=A358 + VAT which I think is very reasonable.
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> Nigel Charles
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--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Ron,
Just an EIS and no steam gages. Don't need no stinkin gages. It
is a great unit and very trustworthy. Wouldn't have it any other way'
Jim Nelson
N15JN
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:34:33 -0400 "Ronald J. Parigoris"
<rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
> <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
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> Anyone ot there flying with just an EIS with no Engine Steam Gauges
> and find it
> acceptable?
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> What EIS?
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> thx.
> Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/14/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Vaughn,
I like your attitude. No lawyers and armed to the teeth. Makes
us all gentlemen doesn't it!! No slime balls around as they get "room
temp'd" real quick. I'll vote for you!!!! :-))))
Jim
do not archive
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:51:56 -0400 "Vaughn Teegarden"
<VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com> writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden"
> <VRTEEGARDEN@peoplepc.com>
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> I like the insurance part. I'm thinking of running for pres with a
> two part
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> Vaughn
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs -
> 08/14/04
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> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski"
> <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
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> > >> How are your gun laws? I'm concerned. Nice meeting you at
> Sun-n-Fun.
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> > Prohibited except to registered hunters and sports people and we
> do not
> > have the right to bear arms. We also aren't allow to sue for
> personal
> > accident or injury as that's automatically covered by a
> government
> > accident insurance scheme and that really cuts down the cost of
> > insurance cover for a Europa.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: McAllister@matronics.com, Paul "" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Ron,
I have an EIS 4000. This is the best thing since sliced bread. I have the manifold
presure and fuel pressure on the auxillary inputs and it is my sole source
of instrumentation. I love it!!
Paul
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