Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:41 AM - Re: Fuel Pumps (Alan Burrows)
2. 02:41 AM - Re: Door Fitting (R.C.Harrison)
3. 02:49 AM - Re: ampreg (Jan de Jong)
4. 04:30 AM - Re: Fuel Pumps (Peter Grant)
5. 04:48 AM - Re: Fuel Pumps (Alan Burrows)
6. 06:47 AM - Re: Door Fitting (Al Stills)
7. 07:46 AM - Re: Rotax 914 Question and other information (Carpenter, Matt)
8. 08:53 AM - Old Buckenham DOTH (Richard Iddon)
9. 10:19 AM - Re: Door Fitting (R.C.Harrison)
10. 12:19 PM - Re: Door Fitting (Fred Fillinger)
11. 12:37 PM - Kremen props-VAT (bryan allsop)
12. 01:31 PM - Re: Mono wheel brakes (Jim Brown)
13. 04:09 PM - Re: Mono wheel brakes (Paul McAllister)
14. 04:17 PM - Re: Woodcomp/Kremen propellers (Tony Renshaw)
15. 08:30 PM - Re: Door Fitting (Mike Parkin)
16. 10:19 PM - Turweston for Saturday - PFA AGM (William Mills)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi All
I have found another supplier of the battery operated fuel pumps at a
price of 26 each (cheaper than the last lot) so if anyone wants one of
these please let me know as soon as possible. I bought one to try and
have been using it for a few days and found it works just as well as the
first ones I purchased. So I have ordered some and this time it looks
like the supply will be more readily available. The cost will be as
above plus 3 for post & package. Once again this a non profit exercise
so please lets keep it simple.
Alan Burrows
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| Subject: | Re: Door Fitting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Mike.
I think you made a really brilliant observation there, pleased I didn't do
it !
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Door Fitting
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin"
<mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
> This sounds like a really bad idea. Black and composites do not mix!!!
> I think your transparencies are likely to pop out as the redux turns to
soft
> putty on a warm summers day.
>
> regards,
>
> MP
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Door Fitting
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> >
> > > The guys at Phoenix Composits and others including myself have taken
> > 2
> > > layers of very light bid about 3/4" wide and have covered the entire
> > > perimeter interface between the door and plexiglass. The PC guys
> > have
> > > noted that after the aircraft has been painted and over time a small
> > crack
> > > in the paint along this interface occurs almost without fail. With
> > all the
> > > planes they have done they say that this is the hot setup.
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > I was planning, since gelcoat down to sort of black has been removed,
> > to add a few drops of black epoxy tint to the Redux. Brush on a thin
> > skim coat in the rebate, and then fully bond with tinted Redux few
> > hours later. The resulting black border solves the paint
> > border/filler cracking problem, and a similar technique looks really
> > good on Grumman AA-x series aircraft, where they attach the windshield
> > to a metal bow. You paint the bow black; paint the plexiglass inside
> > border black; then affix with black RTV. I can't get to it for a
> > while, with some corporate tax clients due 9/15. But if anyone wants
> > to try it first, I won't mind the feedback! :-)
> >
> > Reg,
> > Fred F.
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Jan de Jong <jan.de.jong@xs4all.nl>
The address for Ampreg 20 in the Netherlands:
BAC 2
Diemerzeedijk 3
1095 KK Amsterdam
Tel. 020-6652452
Fax. 020-6652548
Email: bac2@planet.nl
Website: www.sp-bac.nl
Their main market is nautical.
They supply components separately, if required.
Ask for a discount.
I have not found an address for Araldite 420 in the Netherlands.
A UK address is:
Call: 0845 130 1110 Fax: 0845 130 2220
Email: info@silmid.com
Website: www.silmid.com
2 Roman Park, Roman Way, Coleshill
West Midlands, B46 1HG
UK
Jan de Jong
461
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
Hi Allan, must admit I had not realised they were battery-operated! How do
I pay you?
Regards
Peter Grant
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA
Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
G-OGAN Europa TriGear Build No: 100
Rebuilt after serious prang with long XS wings and Airmaster VP prop. Rotax
912S. 150 hours.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Pumps
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi All
I have found another supplier of the battery operated fuel pumps at a
price of 26 each (cheaper than the last lot) so if anyone wants one of
these please let me know as soon as possible. I bought one to try and
have been using it for a few days and found it works just as well as the
first ones I purchased. So I have ordered some and this time it looks
like the supply will be more readily available. The cost will be as
above plus 3 for post & package. Once again this a non profit exercise
so please lets keep it simple.
Alan Burrows
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi Peter
Send me your email address please
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Grant
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Pumps
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant"
--> <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
Hi Allan, must admit I had not realised they were battery-operated! How
do I pay you?
Regards
Peter Grant
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA
Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
G-OGAN Europa TriGear Build No: 100
Rebuilt after serious prang with long XS wings and Airmaster VP prop.
Rotax 912S. 150 hours. This email is intended for the sole use of the
addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact the
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Pumps
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi All
I have found another supplier of the battery operated fuel pumps at a
price of 26 each (cheaper than the last lot) so if anyone wants one of
these please let me know as soon as possible. I bought one to try and
have been using it for a few days and found it works just as well as the
first ones I purchased. So I have ordered some and this time it looks
like the supply will be more readily available. The cost will be as
above plus 3 for post & package. Once again this a non profit exercise
so please lets keep it simple. Alan Burrows
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Al Stills" <astills@senecawholesale.com>
Steve & others who replied,
Thanks for all the info. It helps a lot.
Al Stills
A095
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| Subject: | Rotax 914 Question and other information |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carpenter, Matt" <mcarpenter@concordefs.com>
My EIS 2000 watches EGT, CHT, MP, Oil Temp/Pressure, etc.
EGT is always good on mine, so I am not worried about the RPM.. UNTIL I saw
last night that the EIS 2000 says "If you have a Rotax CDI then set the RPM
input to a 6", "If you
have a Rotax 912 then set the RPM input to a 1" .. mine is at a 1. I am
calling Grand Rapids today
to find out what it really should be.
Also found out last night that I have the older TCU, so I cannot use the new
software. I have to rent
a dongle and software for 50 dollars per day. I need it to adjust the
throttle pot. Right now 115% is almost
1/2 way full throttle open. Makes it feel weird at take off.
Thanks!
Matt Carpenter
A138
Amarillo, Texas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony
Krzyzewski
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rotax 914 Question and other information
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> A person I know (who shall remain nameless) who has a 912S discovered
that their Rotax tacho was under-reading by 600RPM! Says something about
the durability of Rotax engines!!!
I'd second that recommendation to check the Rotax tacho. We had one
owner here who, as it turned out, had been overrevving his 914 by 1200+
RPM for eighteen months due to a miscalibrated tacho. If he had EGT
gauges he would have realised earlier that his engine was being fried
but the plane had been build with the minimum of engine instrumentation.
When we stripped the engine down it was a far from pretty sight inside
with valve burn, annealed pistons and an extremely soft cylinder head.
With a few 1000 dollars thrown into replacement parts the engine
performed like new when I test flew it and it's been behaving well ever
since.
Tony
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| Subject: | Old Buckenham DOTH |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
To anyone planning to go to Old Buckenham tomorrow, I have just checked
Notams and there is an excersise (TLP) with up to 32 fast jets in the
area. I have checked with the phone number on the notam and been advised
that they will not be operating below 4000 ft tomorrow. (Watton is also
active parachuting).
See you there I hope.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Door Fitting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
BTW Al
Use electrical tape for the masking . because it is stretchable you can get
it into a perfect curve. It cleans off easy too.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Stills" <astills@senecawholesale.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door Fitting
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Al Stills"
<astills@senecawholesale.com>
>
> Steve & others who replied,
>
> Thanks for all the info. It helps a lot.
> Al Stills
> A095
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| Subject: | Re: Door Fitting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> This sounds like a really bad idea. Black and composites do not
> mix!!! I think your transparencies are likely to pop out as the
> redux turns to soft putty on a warm summers day.
>
> regards,
>
> MP
>
I'd think that UV degradation over time would be the biggest factor.
Ignoring whatever UV inhibitors may be in the plexiglass, indoor
storage and/or cabin cover should mitigate that for more years the
acrylic will last.. The softening point of fully cured Redux is very
high, much more than what the sun can ever do, something which can be
tested. Looks like worst possible case about 155F deg., as the bronze
acrylic appears to cut it back around 10F. At least, that's what my
infrared temp gun implied on a warm day, extrapolated to mid-90's OAT.
Redux at 200F I found yields under the point of an awl, if pressed
hard, but a test sample could not be pulled apart any easier in
peeling stress at that temp. Nice to know what holds half the plane
together "ain't chopped liver," as they say!
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Kremen props-VAT |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Having checked with my accountant, the SP on VAT in the UK is:-
1. If purchased privately with out access to a UK VAT registration number, the
supplier must invoice the VAT at the rate pertaining in his country.
2. If purchased by a VAT registered UK company their VAT rate will apply.
So! If you own a UK VAT registered company, let it buy the prop for you, then buy
it off your company at the UK (17.5%) VAT rate. Otherwise, Kremen have no choice
but to invoice you at their domestic VAT rate (19%). The difference is only
=A330.00, so you may not worry about it.
Thus your SR2000 variable pitch prop. plus the MCS constant speed controller etc.,
will cost 2660 Euros plus 505.4 Euros. Totalling 3165.54 Euros.
In English =A32000 (rounded). I do not know if VAT is charged on exports to none
European countries.
I will just dunk my head in cold water now, and have a stiff gin.
Best regards! Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Mono wheel brakes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Paul
I'm using DOT-3. Its a clear liquid, silicone?
Somewhere in the build process I was told to use the automobile brake fluid
instead of aviation grade.
The brake pads I use are Cleveland 66-106. The brake assembly looks exactly like
the Cleveland brakes I'm getting ready to instal on the RV-7A that we are
building.
Jim
Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Jim,
>
> What type of brake fluid are you using. I am using the silicone brake fluid
> based on John Hurst's recommendation and now I am wondering if it might have
> been incompatible.
>
> Paul
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mono wheel brakes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I pulled out the piston and the bore was quite corroded. I guess it was
from sitting around so long and some moisture got in it. There were also a
few metal filings inside but they had not got between the bore and piston.
I would recomend to any builder that has had there kit for a while to
disassemble the brake unit, check for corrosion and put in some corrosion
inhibitor.
Regards, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Woodcomp/Kremen propellers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Bryan,.
I am wondering what your opinion of the Kremen is compared to the
Airmaster?? I know there is a lot of both in your part of the world, but
not so many Kremens. I do like their blade shapes though. So, am interested
in an assessment of the quality of both. Does the Kremen have a constant
speed function like the Airmaster??
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
At 01:26 PM 8/29/2004, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
><info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
>
>Hi David, and those interested in the Kremen props,
>The price paid was 2660 Euros, plus VAT., which they asking for at 19% at
>the moment.
>They accepted 266 E's with order, balance to be paid before delivery. That
>was before the prior payment of VAT question came up.
>I ordered it a month ago, and it is now ready for despatch.
>It looks good, and because of the interest I will advise how things go from
>here. I will need to find room for another 2.5 inch diameter site on my
>panel in a handy finger position though.
>Naturally Francis D is requiring an installation inspection, together with a
>new weight and balance check and a flight test. He has advised me that he
>wont be available untill late Sept so it will not be flying till then
>
>Best regards. Bryan Allsop
>
>
>-- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Woodcomp/Kremen propellers
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter Grant
> > US-Eurolink Marketing Services Ltd
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA
> > Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > This email is intended for the sole use of
> > the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact
>the
> > sender and delete the message. US-Eurolink Marketing Services Ltd accepts
>no
> > liability for misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing emails are
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
> > To: Europa list
> > Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp/Kremen propellers
> >
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce"
><davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
> >
> > I am pleased to say that Frances Donaldson has just increased the blade li
>fe
> > limit on the SR2000 prop from 3 yrs to 6 yrs and said he expects to be
>able
> > to remove that limit altogether in a couple of years or so. This has made
>it
> > a commercial proposition to sell them in the UK and a major player in the
>UK
> > GA marketpkace is pursuing the possibility of becoming their agent.
> > The Europa 6 Nations tour ( G-HOFC, G-RIXS, G-PTAG, G-NEAT &
>G-XSDJ)
> > visited the Kremen factory last week and were impressed and unanimous that
> > when their current props gave up they would reequip with a Kremen. I
> > understand that Bryan Alsop has just bought one for 2600 Euros which
> > included spinner, wiring, CS unit, delivery and instruments, with total
> > weight of 9.8 Kg
> > David Joyce, G-XSDJ
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Door Fitting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Fred,
I would be the last to question your experiments (I am only a Secondary
Modern Brat). However, I did hear that the RAF Slingsby Firefly suffered
some heat damage to its carbon composite wing when the military decided to
paint the aircraft black for conspicuity. Furthermore, all the worlds major
composite sailplane manufacturers seem to produce their aircraft in white
and even the advice in the Europa manual is/was to keep away from dark
colours. "Much more than the sun can ever do" - don't know about that, I
can still recall watching an egg fry on the apron in Arizona. My aircraft
is white and it is staying that way but hey, -- if that is what you want ,
go for it.
regards,
MP
> >
>
> I'd think that UV degradation over time would be the biggest factor.
> Ignoring whatever UV inhibitors may be in the plexiglass, indoor
> storage and/or cabin cover should mitigate that for more years the
> acrylic will last.. The softening point of fully cured Redux is very
> high, much more than what the sun can ever do, something which can be
> tested. Looks like worst possible case about 155F deg., as the bronze
> acrylic appears to cut it back around 10F. At least, that's what my
> infrared temp gun implied on a warm day, extrapolated to mid-90's OAT.
>
> Redux at 200F I found yields under the point of an awl, if pressed
> hard, but a test sample could not be pulled apart any easier in
> peeling stress at that temp. Nice to know what holds half the plane
> together "ain't chopped liver," as they say!
>
> Reg,
> Fred F.
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| Subject: | Turweston for Saturday - PFA AGM |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
I'm afraid I won't be able to make it to Old Buckenham DOTH today, but I would
like to propose a mass fly-in to Turweston on Saturday for the AGM. Considering
current events, I think this will be a most important AGM and it would be good
if the Europa Club is well represented.
Best wishes,
William
PS Don't forget to vote for David, Jeremy and Alan. W
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