Europa-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/09/04


Total Messages Posted: 41



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     1. 12:08 AM - ANR Heasdsets (Carl Pattinson)
     2. 12:42 AM - Re: ANR Heasdsets (MICHAEL PARKIN)
     3. 01:04 AM - Re: 912S starting (Nigel Graham)
     4. 01:08 AM - Re: ANR Heasdsets (Carl Pattinson)
     5. 02:14 AM - Re: Skymap 111C (Alan Burrows)
     6. 02:19 AM - Re: ANR Heasdsets (Richard Holder)
     7. 03:23 AM - Re: Skymap 111C (R.C.Harrison)
     8. 03:23 AM - Re: Skymap 111C (R.C.Harrison)
     9. 04:00 AM - Re: ANR Heasdsets (MICHAEL PARKIN)
    10. 04:17 AM - Re: ANR Heasdsets (R.C.Harrison)
    11. 04:17 AM - Re: The Phoenix has risen (John & Amy Eckel)
    12. 04:22 AM - Re: The Phoenix has risen (Jeremy Davey)
    13. 04:23 AM - Re: The Phoenix has risen (Jeremy Davey)
    14. 04:27 AM - Fw: Good News from Kirkbymoorside (R.C.Harrison)
    15. 04:27 AM - Fw: Replacement of batteries Instruction sheet. (R.C.Harrison)
    16. 04:34 AM - Re: The Phoenix has risen (John & Amy Eckel)
    17. 04:48 AM - Re: ANR Heasdsets (MICHAEL PARKIN)
    18. 07:51 AM - Re: Fuel drain modification? (Fergus Kyle)
    19. 08:09 AM - Re: Skymap 111C (Pete Lawless)
    20. 08:21 AM - It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!! (MICHAEL PARKIN)
    21. 08:48 AM - Re: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!! (Alan Burrows)
    22. 10:13 AM - Re: Skymap 111C & ProPlan (Alan Stewart)
    23. 10:29 AM - Contact Info For Andy? (Doug Lawton)
    24. 10:55 AM - Re: Skymap 111C & ProPlan (Trevpond@aol.com)
    25. 11:25 AM - Re: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!! (Jeremy Davey)
    26. 11:34 AM - re New Starter for 912S (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
    27. 11:35 AM - Re: Skymap 111C & ProPlan (Rocketman)
    28. 11:55 AM - gear retraction - mono (Mike Gamble)
    29. 12:56 PM - Re: Skymap 111C & ProPlan (ivor.phillips)
    30. 12:56 PM - Re: gear retraction - mono (Fergus Kyle)
    31. 12:58 PM - PFA EC elections (Jeremy Davey)
    32. 01:21 PM - Re: PFA EC elections (Steve Pitt)
    33. 01:28 PM - Re: The Phoenix has risen (Craig Ellison)
    34. 01:29 PM - Re: PFA EC elections (Gerry Holland)
    35. 01:37 PM - New Starter for 912S (Richard Holder)
    36. 02:04 PM - Re: The Phoenix has risen (Jeremy Davey)
    37. 02:33 PM - Re: Fuel drain modification? (Raimo Toivio)
    38. 04:11 PM - Re: gear retraction - mono (Paul McAllister)
    39. 04:25 PM - Re: Skymap 111C (SPurpura@aol.com)
    40. 06:14 PM - Bounced email (Craig Ellison)
    41. 09:32 PM - Transponder issues (Paul McAllister)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:08:47 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: ANR Heasdsets
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> There is one crucial point that seems to be being missed in this discussion. We have flown with ANR headsets for the last two years. Ours are not very sophisticated as they are one of the very first ones made (made by Skyforce) but the |ANR does offer a very good degree of noise cancellation and it is true that this is mainly "bass" frequency". We were thinking of replacing these sets for a more expensive version (eg: Sennheiser or Pilot DNC) till my wife suggested that the noise might not be coming from through the headset shells but might be amplified noise through the microphone. Sure enough, when the intercom was switched off, the headset noise was reduced dramatically. We have since conducted a flight where the intercom was kept off for long periods and this was much more relaxing. It seems possible that although advanced ANR designs may cancel out some of this microphone induced noise it would be better if it could be prevented from being picked up in the first place. My previous headset was a Peltor (non ANR) and this used a voice activated microphone - I recall that again with the mic off there was much less noise. Before discarding our present headsets we are going to try and see if there is any way of shielding the mikes from the ambient cockpit noise. Has anybody tried to do this (or even used a throat mic).


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    Time: 12:42:20 AM PST US
    From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: ANR Heasdsets
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> Voice activated intercom is available a lot of reasonably priced intercom units - this problem does not exist then!! regards MP (GJULZ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> Subject: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> > > There is one crucial point that seems to be being missed in this discussion. > > We have flown with ANR headsets for the last two years. Ours are not very > sophisticated as they are one of the very first ones made (made by Skyforce) > but the |ANR does offer a very good degree of noise cancellation and it is > true that this is mainly "bass" frequency". > > We were thinking of replacing these sets for a more expensive version (eg: > Sennheiser or Pilot DNC) till my wife suggested that the noise might not be > coming from through the headset shells but might be amplified noise through > the microphone. Sure enough, when the intercom was switched off, the headset > noise was reduced dramatically. We have since conducted a flight where the > intercom was kept off for long periods and this was much more relaxing. > > It seems possible that although advanced ANR designs may cancel out some of > this microphone induced noise it would be better if it could be prevented > from being picked up in the first place. My previous headset was a Peltor > (non ANR) and this used a voice activated microphone - I recall that again > with the mic off there was much less noise. > > Before discarding our present headsets we are going to try and see if there > is any way of shielding the mikes from the ambient cockpit noise. > > Has anybody tried to do this (or even used a throat mic). > >


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    Time: 01:04:19 AM PST US
    From: "Nigel Graham" <nigel_graham@btclick.com>
    Subject: Re: 912S starting
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Graham" <nigel_graham@btclick.com> I agree with Graham - but would add the warning that if you can't use the Rotax locking peg, your choice of screw should be limited to high tensile only. A mild steel screw could shear in the crank the moment any significant torque was applied to the crankshaft - needing an engine strip to remove the debris. Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Singleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: 912S starting --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> The manual I have talks of "the crankshaft locking screw (part no 240 880) >which is part of the standard tool kit supplied with each engine". Does >anyone HAVE one of these. I don't remember seeing it ! There is a screw in the crankcase, LHS forard , take it out and you'll see the crankshaft has a hole to take the locking screw, so find a screw long enough to reach the hole, turn the crankshaft until the screw enters the locking hole. Graham == == == ==


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    Time: 01:08:23 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: ANR Heasdsets
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> Yes and No, our radio and intercom are integrated (ICOM 200) so it would require some rejigging to integrate a new intercom box in the circuit. Might be easier to fit an isolator switch on the mic (so you could hear incoming transmissions but not the noise from the mikes). It may be easier to replace the headsets for ones that are cleverer at killing the noise. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> > > Voice activated intercom is available a lot of reasonably priced intercom > units - this problem does not exist then!! > > regards > > MP (GJULZ) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> > > > > There is one crucial point that seems to be being missed in this > discussion. > > > > We have flown with ANR headsets for the last two years. Ours are not very > > sophisticated as they are one of the very first ones made (made by > Skyforce) > > but the |ANR does offer a very good degree of noise cancellation and it is > > true that this is mainly "bass" frequency". > > > > We were thinking of replacing these sets for a more expensive version (eg: > > Sennheiser or Pilot DNC) till my wife suggested that the noise might not > be > > coming from through the headset shells but might be amplified noise > through > > the microphone. Sure enough, when the intercom was switched off, the > headset > > noise was reduced dramatically. We have since conducted a flight where the > > intercom was kept off for long periods and this was much more relaxing. > > > > It seems possible that although advanced ANR designs may cancel out some > of > > this microphone induced noise it would be better if it could be prevented > > from being picked up in the first place. My previous headset was a Peltor > > (non ANR) and this used a voice activated microphone - I recall that again > > with the mic off there was much less noise. > > > > Before discarding our present headsets we are going to try and see if > there > > is any way of shielding the mikes from the ambient cockpit noise. > > > > Has anybody tried to do this (or even used a throat mic). > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:14:03 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: Skymap 111C
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> I have been using Navbox Pro for several years and find it excellent. I have watched it develop from a basic product into something I really wouldn't like to be without today. The only thing you have to be careful with is making sure you fill in all the aircraft data if you want it to calculate an extended Nav. log incl. weight & balance. It even taught me how to fill in an ICAO standard flight plan form properly, how many of us can remember how to do that without help? Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivor.phillips Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skymap 111C --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" --> <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> Skymap 111C > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> > > I want to connect my Skymap to download the flights that I have made > and have been pointed to NavBox and Flightstar(?) software packages. What are others using? Can anyone point me to written assessments of these or other products. > Hi Steve I have been using Navbox Pro for three years now and found it to be excellent, My latest jepp database for my Garmin didn't include the French Danger areas, But they where clearly marked on Navbox, Its easy to use, Do your flight planning on the computer and upload to a GPS, Or download a current flight for later reference, You have Monthly updates via Email to keep the infomation current, A piece of kit i highly recommend! Ivor Phillips XS486 == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 02:19:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ANR Heasdsets
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> You should be able to set the squelch to keep the level of background noise picked up by the microphone to a minimum. Effectively it becomes voice operated. The mike circuit doesn't work until enough volts are produced inside the mike by the sound of your voice. 'orrible simplification ! Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> > > Yes and No, our radio and intercom are integrated (ICOM 200) so it would > require some rejigging to integrate a new intercom box in the circuit. Might > be easier to fit an isolator switch on the mic (so you could hear incoming > transmissions but not the noise from the mikes). > > It may be easier to replace the headsets for ones that are cleverer at > killing the noise. > >


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    Time: 03:23:50 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Skymap 111C
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Duncan , Only included in June since I made a special request having had mine updated in April, Bendix King were unaware of the latest info. and undertook to give me a further update by the end of June when they expected Jafferson to have caught up ! Then they even tried to charge me again ! Regards Bob H G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skymap 111C > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> > > <<My latest jepp database for my Garmin didn't include the French Danger > areas>> > > > That's odd. When I updated my 195 in June of this year the French TPAs were > present. > > Duncan McF. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skymap 111C > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" > <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> > > > > > > Skymap 111C > > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Pitt" > > <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> > > > > > > I want to connect my Skymap to download the flights that I have made and > > have been pointed to NavBox and Flightstar(?) software packages. What are > > others using? Can anyone point me to written assessments of these or other > > products. > > > > > Hi Steve > > > > I have been using Navbox Pro for three years now and found it to be > > excellent, My latest jepp database for my Garmin didn't include the > French > > Danger areas, But they where clearly marked on Navbox, Its easy to use, > > Do your flight planning on the computer and upload to a GPS, Or download > a > > current flight for later reference, > > You have Monthly updates via Email to keep the infomation current, > > > > A piece of kit i highly recommend! > > > > > > Ivor Phillips > > XS486 > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:23:50 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Skymap 111C
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Steve. I have worked well with the Flight Star Planning system and the Skyforce Tracker IIIC GPS. Especially having Ivor Phillips with me also using his Garmin 296 with his Navbox flight planning down loaded . The benefits of using both together are really impressive. The Navbox System does however seem to pick up more smaller fields (Unless me being a dinosoar hasn't explored the Skyforce more thoroughly!) However since landing from my European trip two weeks ago the Skyforce has sat in my office unused until yesterday and bingo there was an internal battery low warning. All my previous flight planning has now gone, all the damn settings have also gone. On enquiry at Bendix King it seems that from the first warning of LOW Batteries you have a minimum of 50 hours (real time not flying time) to change the batteries. Then to change the batteries you need special instructions and a soldering iron! Hey Ho 'ere' we go again! .....as the earwig said as he fell over the cliff ! Oh! BTW the Flight Star system did show me to fly through a mountain on approach and departure from Lodrinho In Switzerland on the terrain profile. Jefferson stand at Oshkosh two years ago refused to believe it so we had them do a simulated route there and then on their big screen and hey presto same mountain same problem, they weren't long taking it off screen !They asked me to e-mail them about it later and they would attend to the problem. After a number of e-mails I securred an admission that it had proved to be a major engineering problem and to this date there's been no further development. So be careful don't fly into mountains ......it's permanent! Now since Tervor Pond has raised issue over new computors not having "Serial Ports" I checked with the Bendix King Technical Guy and he says I do need a USB Port to Serial Adapter but it may not work on some installations but.....will have a better chance with Winows XP PRO ! "ere we go again" ! regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> Subject: Europa-List: Skymap 111C > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> > > I want to connect my Skymap to download the flights that I have made and have been pointed to NavBox and Flightstar(?) software packages. What are others using? Can anyone point me to written assessments of these or other products. > Thanks > Steve Pitt #403 > >


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    Time: 04:00:08 AM PST US
    From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: ANR Heasdsets
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> I don't think that is correct. The radio squelch sets the threshold for the signal to noise ratio of the incoming radio signal. It has nothing to do with mic circuit on the receiving aircraft. In practice, listening to a distant weather broadcast for example: With the squelch on, it maybe that nothing can be heard. However, adjusting the squelch, may well allow the signal to be heard among the rest of the noise. On many modern systems, the squelch is either on(level set automatically) or off. regards, MP (GJULZ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > > You should be able to set the squelch to keep the level of background noise > picked up by the microphone to a minimum. > > Effectively it becomes voice operated. The mike circuit doesn't work until > enough volts are produced inside the mike by the sound of your voice. > > 'orrible simplification ! > > Richard > Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) > Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) > Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) > SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk > Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross > PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> > > > > Yes and No, our radio and intercom are integrated (ICOM 200) so it would > > require some rejigging to integrate a new intercom box in the circuit. Might > > be easier to fit an isolator switch on the mic (so you could hear incoming > > transmissions but not the noise from the mikes). > > > > It may be easier to replace the headsets for ones that are cleverer at > > killing the noise. > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:17:34 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: ANR Heasdsets
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Yes, Mike but my ICOM AC200 auto squelch takes most of the incoming signal which you want also.! Dump the auto squelch control(Test Button ) you get the signal from afar but all the other crap with it ! Regards Bob H G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> > > I don't think that is correct. The radio squelch sets the threshold for the > signal to noise ratio of the incoming radio signal. It has nothing to do > with mic circuit on the receiving aircraft. In practice, listening to a > distant weather broadcast for example: With the squelch on, it maybe that > nothing can be heard. However, adjusting the squelch, may well allow the > signal to be heard among the rest of the noise. On many modern systems, the > squelch is either on(level set automatically) or off. > > regards, > > MP (GJULZ) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > > > > You should be able to set the squelch to keep the level of background > noise > > picked up by the microphone to a minimum. > > > > Effectively it becomes voice operated. The mike circuit doesn't work until > > enough volts are produced inside the mike by the sound of your voice. > > > > 'orrible simplification ! > > > > Richard > > Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) > > Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) > > Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) > > SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk > > Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross > > PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" > <carl_p@ntlworld.com> > > > > > > Yes and No, our radio and intercom are integrated (ICOM 200) so it would > > > require some rejigging to integrate a new intercom box in the circuit. > Might > > > be easier to fit an isolator switch on the mic (so you could hear > incoming > > > transmissions but not the noise from the mikes). > > > > > > It may be easier to replace the headsets for ones that are cleverer at > > > killing the noise. > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:17:34 AM PST US
    From: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: The Phoenix has risen
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net> Nigel, Thanks for the update, that is good news. Do you have Andy's current email address? Thanks, John, A230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> Subject: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > > > Dear All, > > Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit > and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) > "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen > from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy > Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day 2 > or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check > of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd has > no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say that > once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, > they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may > still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . > > Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was > busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to > the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit > deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts not > provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I > suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, > provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. > > Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! > > Nigel Harrison > #584 > > > ************************************************************* > This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. > http://www.manx.net/default.asp?id=25 > ************************************************************* > >


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    Time: 04:22:17 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: The Phoenix has risen
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> John, Still 'andy@europa-aircraft.com' - and John Wheeler is looking after Sales: 'john@europa-aircraft.com'. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John & Amy Eckel Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net> Nigel, Thanks for the update, that is good news. Do you have Andy's current email address? Thanks, John, A230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> Subject: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > > > Dear All, > > Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit > and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) > "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen > from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy > Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day 2 > or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check > of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd has > no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say that > once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, > they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may > still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . > > Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was > busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to > the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit > deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts not > provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I > suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, > provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. > > Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! > > Nigel Harrison > #584 > > > ************************************************************* > This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. > http://www.manx.net/default.asp?id=25 > ************************************************************* > >


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    Time: 04:23:07 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: The Phoenix has risen
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> That's john@..., not ray@... OK? Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Davey [mailto:EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com] Subject: RE: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen John, Still 'andy@europa-aircraft.com' - and John Wheeler is looking after Sales: 'john@europa-aircraft.com'. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John & Amy Eckel Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net> Nigel, Thanks for the update, that is good news. Do you have Andy's current email address? Thanks, John, A230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> Subject: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > > > Dear All, > > Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit > and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) > "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen > from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy > Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day 2 > or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check > of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd has > no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say that > once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, > they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may > still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . > > Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was > busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to > the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit > deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts not > provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I > suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, > provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. > > Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! > > Nigel Harrison > #584 > > > ************************************************************* > This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. > http://www.manx.net/default.asp?id=25 > ************************************************************* > >


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    Time: 04:27:47 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Fw: Good News from Kirkbymoorside
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Harrison Subject: Re: Good News from Kirkbymoorside Hi! Dave and all. Great news indeed, I seriously wish them every success. It does occur to me however, that the statement clearly says 5 former employees will be with the new company and goes on to name 3. Hope their accountancy is better than this and the despatch department can count better otherwise we won't be any further on! But then again the root cause of the problem isn't one of the 5, as Dave anticipates us to ask, thanks for that. Best wishes to Dave, Bill, and Nev too who all also must have suffered the recent indignities and uncertainties of livlihood. regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG


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    Time: 04:27:47 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Fw: Replacement of batteries Instruction sheet.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Harrison Subject: Fw: Replacement of batteries Instruction sheet. Hi! Guys. Further to my posting on Skyforce Tracker III C Usage and Flight Star Flight Planning / Navbox etc. Just got the attached 12 page instruction document from Bendix King re. changing of batteries !!!!! Hope you feel up to it when your time comes ! ......anytime between 4 to 7 years ! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Smith Subject: Re: Replacement of batteries Instruction sheet. Please find attached the bendix king battery replacement instruction sheet for a skymap IIIC. Please note the UK part number is 3180310362. regards Gary Smith Service Engineer Tel: +44 (0)1243 783763 Fax: +44 (0)1243 783992 ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Harrison To: gary@skyforce.co.uk Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:57 AM Subject: Replacement of batteries Instruction sheet. Hi! Gary. Just spoke to you re-request for "changing the batteries sheet" for a Skyforce Tracker IIIC. Please. Most obliged for your assistance. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300


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    Time: 04:34:07 AM PST US
    From: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: The Phoenix has risen
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net> Thanks Jeremy John do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> > > John, > > Still 'andy@europa-aircraft.com' - and John Wheeler is looking after Sales: > 'john@europa-aircraft.com'. > > Regards, > Jeremy > > Jeremy Davey > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA > Tail done > Standard XS wings with mods underway > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) > 1200 build hours to date > Intended fit: > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John & Amy > Eckel > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net> > > Nigel, > Thanks for the update, that is good news. > > Do you have Andy's current email address? > > Thanks, > John, A230 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit > > and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) > > "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen > > from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy > > Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day > 2 > > or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check > > of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd > has > > no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say > that > > once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, > > they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may > > still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . > > > > Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was > > busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to > > the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit > > deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts > not > > provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I > > suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, > > provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. > > > > Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! > > > > Nigel Harrison > > #584 > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. > > http://www.manx.net/default.asp?id=25 > > ************************************************************* > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:48:23 AM PST US
    From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: ANR Heasdsets
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> Isn't that what I said Bob. regards MP ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > > Yes, Mike but my ICOM AC200 auto squelch takes most of the incoming signal > which you want also.! Dump the auto squelch control(Test Button ) you get > the signal from afar but all the other crap with it ! > Regards > Bob H G-PTAG > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" > <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> > > > > I don't think that is correct. The radio squelch sets the threshold for > the > > signal to noise ratio of the incoming radio signal. It has nothing to do > > with mic circuit on the receiving aircraft. In practice, listening to a > > distant weather broadcast for example: With the squelch on, it maybe that > > nothing can be heard. However, adjusting the squelch, may well allow the > > signal to be heard among the rest of the noise. On many modern systems, > the > > squelch is either on(level set automatically) or off. > > > > regards, > > > > MP (GJULZ) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: ANR Heasdsets > > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > > > > > > You should be able to set the squelch to keep the level of background > > noise > > > picked up by the microphone to a minimum. > > > > > > Effectively it becomes voice operated. The mike circuit doesn't work > until > > > enough volts are produced inside the mike by the sound of your voice. > > > > > > 'orrible simplification ! > > > > > > Richard > > > Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) > > > Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) > > > Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) > > > SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk > > > Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross > > > PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > > > > > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" > > <carl_p@ntlworld.com> > > > > > > > > Yes and No, our radio and intercom are integrated (ICOM 200) so it > would > > > > require some rejigging to integrate a new intercom box in the circuit. > > Might > > > > be easier to fit an isolator switch on the mic (so you could hear > > incoming > > > > transmissions but not the noise from the mikes). > > > > > > > > It may be easier to replace the headsets for ones that are cleverer at > > > > killing the noise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:51:13 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: Fuel drain modification?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel drain modification? | I agree with David. In my opinion the Andair gascolator obviates the | need for separate water drains. It also enables easy inspection and | cleaning of any debris unlike the standard filters. Bowl removal | cleaning and refitting takes no more than 3 minutes (not that I have | found anything in the bowl so far). | | Nigel Charles I was wondering what then filters out the tank water before one starts an engine? The water drains take a sample from the bottom of the tank (hopefully) in an admitted large sample - at any time. The gascolator drains off water as it approaches the engine. To me these are two different sources, one of storage, one of system...............? ferg A064


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    Time: 08:09:27 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: Skymap 111C
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info> I am another happy user of NavBox Pro. I mainly use it for IFR flight planning. It is easy to use and as well as getting the updated monthly database with your subscription you also get new releases of the software. I guess I have been using it for 5 years or so. Dont know about the download/upload. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivor.phillips Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skymap 111C --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" --> <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> Skymap 111C > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> > > I want to connect my Skymap to download the flights that I have made > and have been pointed to NavBox and Flightstar(?) software packages. What are others using? Can anyone point me to written assessments of these or other products. > Hi Steve I have been using Navbox Pro for three years now and found it to be excellent, My latest jepp database for my Garmin didn't include the French Danger areas, But they where clearly marked on Navbox, Its easy to use, Do your flight planning on the computer and upload to a GPS, Or download a current flight for later reference, You have Monthly updates via Email to keep the infomation current, A piece of kit i highly recommend! Ivor Phillips XS486 == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == --- ---


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    Time: 08:21:14 AM PST US
    From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> This afternoon was a stunning afternoon to go flying in North Yorkshire. Happened by Kirkbymoorside - always nosey. Thought everyone would like to know that the boys are back. Did several passes over the Europa factory to say hello - the cars were there and the boys were outside waving in their usual manner. It is pleasing to know that GJULZ is no longer an orphan. regards, Mike Parkin


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    Time: 08:48:50 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> GET A PROPER JOB PARKIN..! And do some work like the rest of us..! Alan Burrows Ps I did the same yesterday :-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL PARKIN Subject: Europa-List: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!! --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" --> <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> This afternoon was a stunning afternoon to go flying in North Yorkshire. Happened by Kirkbymoorside - always nosey. Thought everyone would like to know that the boys are back. Did several passes over the Europa factory to say hello - the cars were there and the boys were outside waving in their usual manner. It is pleasing to know that GJULZ is no longer an orphan. regards, Mike Parkin == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 10:13:04 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Stewart" <alan.stewart@blueyonder.co.uk>
    Subject: Skymap 111C & ProPlan
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" <alan.stewart@blueyonder.co.uk> Hi Peter, I have a recent issue NavBox Proplan which I use seamlessly with my Skymap 3C for route planning. My PC is fairly powerful, has 1 1.7 Celeron processor, half a Gig of double speed memory and a GeForce4 MX 440 display adapter. However, when requesting a new, reasonably detailed 1/2 mil European map (600 x 600), it can take 3 to 4 minutes to draw, during which time Proplan is rendered powerless ! Does anyone know a simple solution to this rather irritating feature ? Do others suffer in a similar way ? The on-line documentation suggests this is due to drawing limitations of the graphics chip and is 'not normal', but doesn't really suggest an easy way to get around it ? Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Lawless Subject: RE: Europa-List: Skymap 111C --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info> I am another happy user of NavBox Pro. I mainly use it for IFR flight planning. It is easy to use and as well as getting the updated monthly database with your subscription you also get new releases of the software. I guess I have been using it for 5 years or so. Dont know about the download/upload. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivor.phillips Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skymap 111C --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" --> <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> Skymap 111C > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> > > I want to connect my Skymap to download the flights that I have made > and have been pointed to NavBox and Flightstar(?) software packages. What are others using? Can anyone point me to written assessments of these or other products. > Hi Steve I have been using Navbox Pro for three years now and found it to be excellent, My latest jepp database for my Garmin didn't include the French Danger areas, But they where clearly marked on Navbox, Its easy to use, Do your flight planning on the computer and upload to a GPS, Or download a current flight for later reference, You have Monthly updates via Email to keep the infomation current, A piece of kit i highly recommend! Ivor Phillips XS486 == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == --- --- == == == ==


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    Time: 10:29:52 AM PST US
    From: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Contact Info For Andy?
    0.36 NO_OBLIGATION BODY: There is no obligation --> Europa-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net> Nigel, Do you have any contact information for Andy? Thanks in advance, Doug Lawton A244 Dear All, Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day 2 or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd has no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say that once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts not provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! Nigel Harrison #584


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    Time: 10:55:45 AM PST US
    From: Trevpond@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Skymap 111C & ProPlan
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Trevpond@aol.com Hi Alan, The only way of speeding things up is to take some of the detail off the map - you will quickly notice the change. kind regards Trevor Kit 598


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    Time: 11:25:31 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> You got a proper job yesterday, or you did some work? I dont believe either... :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows Subject: RE: Europa-List: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!! --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> GET A PROPER JOB PARKIN..! And do some work like the rest of us..! Alan Burrows Ps I did the same yesterday :-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL PARKIN Subject: Europa-List: It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!! --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" --> <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> This afternoon was a stunning afternoon to go flying in North Yorkshire. Happened by Kirkbymoorside - always nosey. Thought everyone would like to know that the boys are back. Did several passes over the Europa factory to say hello - the cars were there and the boys were outside waving in their usual manner. It is pleasing to know that GJULZ is no longer an orphan. regards, Mike Parkin == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 11:34:26 AM PST US
    Subject: re New Starter for 912S
    From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
    09/09/2004 02:34:07 PM, Serialize complete at 09/09/2004 02:34:07 PM --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Greetings, My understanding of the rationale for the new starter option was that the new electric motor revved about twice the speed of the original. The value of this increase is that the engine is taken up to 600 rpm, well above the very cranky resonance where the engine shakes like it is about to come apart. I thought I might install it in my 912S, but the $400 starter also requires an $800 mod to the gear box ($ amounts approximate). I don't have a big resonance problem so far, but I was thinking forward to cold New York winters. My thought now is that if it is too cold to start, it is too cold to fly ;-) Ira N224XS All Done Trues out at gps calibrated 133 kts at 7500' (9800 density alt in Florida sunshine!)


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    Time: 11:35:48 AM PST US
    From: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Skymap 111C & ProPlan
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net> Alan Stewart wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" <alan.stewart@blueyonder.co.uk> > > >Hi Peter, > >I have a recent issue NavBox Proplan which I use seamlessly with my >Skymap 3C for route planning. > >My PC is fairly powerful, has 1 1.7 Celeron processor, half a Gig of >double speed memory and a GeForce4 MX 440 display adapter. > >However, when requesting a new, reasonably detailed 1/2 mil European map >(600 x 600), it can take 3 to 4 minutes to draw, during which time >Proplan is rendered powerless ! > >Does anyone know a simple solution to this rather irritating feature ? >Do others suffer in a similar way ? > >The on-line documentation suggests this is due to drawing limitations of >the graphics chip and is 'not normal', but doesn't really suggest an >easy way to get around it ? > >Alan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete >Lawless >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Europa-List: Skymap 111C > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info> > >I am another happy user of NavBox Pro. I mainly use it for IFR flight >planning. It is easy to use and as well as getting the updated monthly >database with your subscription you also get new releases of the >software. I guess I have been using it for 5 years or so. > >Dont know about the download/upload. > >Pete > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >ivor.phillips >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skymap 111C > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" >--> <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> > > > Skymap 111C > > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Pitt" >> >> ><steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> > > >>I want to connect my Skymap to download the flights that I have made >>and >> >> >have been pointed to NavBox and Flightstar(?) software packages. What >are others using? Can anyone point me to written assessments of these or >other products. > > >Hi Steve > >I have been using Navbox Pro for three years now and found it to be >excellent, My latest jepp database for my Garmin didn't include the >French >Danger areas, But they where clearly marked on Navbox, Its easy to use, >Do your flight planning on the computer and upload to a GPS, Or >download a current flight for later reference, You have Monthly updates >via Email to keep the infomation current, > >A piece of kit i highly recommend! > > >Ivor Phillips >XS486 > > >== >direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. >== >== >== > > >--- > > >--- > > >== >== >== >== > > > > Alan, You'd get better performance from a full fledged processor. I find they are much faster, when doing screen draws and calculations. The fasted machine I have has a 1.7 Athelon processor and "it ain't no slouch". Just my opinion... -- Jeff - A055


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    Time: 11:55:12 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
    Subject: gear retraction - mono
    3.40 NONSENSE BODY: String of nonsense text --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net> Some time ago there was much discussion about the monowheel over retracting and contacting the brake master cylinder and the slave cylinder contacting the tunnel sidewall. I find that this will indeed be the case with mine unless I do something about it. There is also contact between the top of the caliper and the stb rudder cable. What did you chaps finally do about it or, better still, how do you think I should attack this problem to best effect? Thanks Mike Gamble XS 440 mono


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    Time: 12:56:16 PM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Skymap 111C & ProPlan
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> : RE: Europa-List: Skymap 111C & ProPlan > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stewart" <alan.stewart@blueyonder.co.uk> > > > Hi Peter, > > I have a recent issue NavBox Proplan which I use seamlessly with my > Skymap 3C for route planning. > > My PC is fairly powerful, has 1 1.7 Celeron processor, half a Gig of > double speed memory and a GeForce4 MX 440 display adapter. > >Hi Alan I run a 2 Gig processor with 1 Gig of DDR memory and a ATI 256 DDR graphic card and don't have a problem, If you have a lot of other programs running in the background that would make it run slow! regards Ivor Phillips


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    Time: 12:56:59 PM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: gear retraction - mono
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net> Subject: Europa-List: gear retraction - mono | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net> | | Some time ago there was much discussion about the monowheel over retracting and contacting the brake master cylinder and the slave cylinder contacting the tunnel sidewall. | I find that this will indeed be the case with mine unless I do something about it. There is also contact between the top of the caliper and the stb rudder cable. | What did you chaps finally do about it or, better still, how do you think I should attack this problem to best effect? | Thanks | Mike Gamble | XS 440 mono Mike, I have a classic with XS cockpit so have had same sort of problem. My solution to brake caliper was to route (That's 'root') the starboard rudder cable about 1/2" outboard (through the wall) in a 1/4" nylon tube that is epoxied into position. It intrudes the cockpit living space but not where there's much living going on. Ferg A064


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    Time: 12:58:22 PM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: PFA EC elections
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> I thought the UK-based Europa folks would be interested to hear that all three candidates for the PFA=92s Executive Committee were elected. [Cue Mike Parkin for a whinge to me about Engineering :-)] Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms


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    Time: 01:21:49 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: PFA EC elections
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> My God - what is the world coming to - you elected to the EC. Someone must have got my ballot paper and filled it in for me! Well done - does this mean that Europa has over 10% of the PFA heirarchy - is it going to be renamed the Popular Europa Association? Steve Pitt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> To: <europa-list@matronics.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: Europa-List: PFA EC elections > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> > > I thought the UK-based Europa folks would be interested to hear that all > three candidates for the PFA=92s Executive Committee were elected. > > > [Cue Mike Parkin for a whinge to me about Engineering :-)] > > > Regards, > > Jeremy > > > Jeremy Davey > > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA > > Tail done > Standard XS wings with mods underway > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) > > 1200 build hours to date > > Intended fit: > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms > > > > > > > > > > > ----


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    Time: 01:28:32 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: The Phoenix has risen
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> All, I emailed Andy using the address given you Jeremy and it bounced. Has anyone else had the same result. craig ellison A205 painting , needs a FWF kit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> Subject: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > > > Dear All, > > Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit > and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) > "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen > from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy > Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day 2 > or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check > of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd has > no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say that > once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, > they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may > still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . > > Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was > busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to > the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit > deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts not > provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I > suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, > provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. > > Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! > > Nigel Harrison > #584 > > > ************************************************************* > This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. > http://www.manx.net/default.asp?id=25 > ************************************************************* > >


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    Time: 01:29:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: PFA EC elections
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Jeremy > I thought the UK-based Europa folks would be interested to hear that all > three candidates for the PFA Executive Committee were elected. Absolute Travesty! What voice the nay-sayers. G. Holland - care of Somerset Home for the Aeronautically Bewildered Do not archive


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    Time: 01:37:42 PM PST US
    Subject: New Starter for 912S
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > Greetings, > > My understanding of the rationale for the new starter option > was that the new electric motor revved about twice the speed of > the original. The value of this increase is that the engine is taken > up to 600 rpm, well above the very cranky resonance where > the engine shakes like it is about to come apart. > > I thought I might install it in my 912S, but the $400 starter > also requires an $800 mod to the gear box ($ amounts approximate). > I don't have a big resonance problem so far, but I was thinking forward > to cold New York winters. My thought now is that if it is too cold to > start, it is too cold to fly ;-) What $800 mod to the gearbox ? Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)


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    Time: 02:04:50 PM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: The Phoenix has risen
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Craig, What was the bounce message? I'm wondering if this is a transitionary problem. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ellison Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> All, I emailed Andy using the address given you Jeremy and it bounced. Has anyone else had the same result. craig ellison A205 painting , needs a FWF kit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> Subject: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > > > Dear All, > > Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit > and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) > "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen > from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy > Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day 2 > or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check > of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd has > no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say that > once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, > they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may > still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . > > Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was > busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to > the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit > deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts not > provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I > suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, > provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. > > Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! > > Nigel Harrison > #584 > > > ************************************************************* > This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. > http://www.manx.net/default.asp?id=25 > ************************************************************* > >


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    Time: 02:33:36 PM PST US
    From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
    Subject: Re: Fuel drain modification?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> > I was wondering what then filters out the tank water before one starts an > engine? The water drains take a sample from the bottom of the tank > (hopefully) in an admitted large sample - at any time. The gascolator drains > off water as it approaches the engine. To me these are two different > sources, one of storage, one of system...............? > ferg > A064 This sounds great for me, I like genius people. Better (for safe only) both of them. If only one system, you should have water drains first of all (this is only IMHO like Bob always says). Cessna people know that. I have run my Cessna 475 hrs w/o cascolators w/o problems, in any conditions through the Finnish year climate. I like the idea of simple, safe-enough, lightweight, cheap and fast Europa. And also the idea it is buildable in a lifetime...with family and some other interests. So - no cascolators. I trust my manual, literally (usually). In spite of that, I have mod "water drains", of course. I am sure Jos [couple of kilometers north from me] will reply ;)) I am sure Europa people have large enough soul to read this. Regards, Raimo M W Toivio OH-XRT #417 OH-CVK OH-BLL 37500 Lempaala Finland tel + 358 3 3753 777 fax + 358 3 3753 100 gsm + 358 40 590 1450 raimo.toivio@rwm.fi www.rwm.fi


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    Time: 04:11:09 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: gear retraction - mono
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Mike, Take a look at http://europa363.versadev.com under November 23 2002. I have a couple of photos of what I did to fix this problem Paul


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    From: SPurpura@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Skymap 111C
    --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com I,M USING A GARMIN GNC250XL AND A APOLL0 360=D8 AND THINK THEY ARE BOTH GREAT SAM PURPURA N77EU


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    Time: 06:14:19 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
    Subject: Bounced email
    0.36 NO_OBLIGATION BODY: There is no obligation --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> Jeremy, The address was rejected somehow. Maybe as Fred experienced I had the address incorect. I thought prehaps they weren't ready to receive email yet? I'll check the address and try again. craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> > > Craig, > > What was the bounce message? I'm wondering if this is a transitionary > problem. > > Regards, > Jeremy > > Jeremy Davey > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA > Tail done > Standard XS wings with mods underway > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) > 1200 build hours to date > Intended fit: > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ellison > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" > <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> > > All, > > I emailed Andy using the address given you Jeremy and it bounced. Has > anyone else had the same result. > > craig ellison > A205 painting , needs a FWF kit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: The Phoenix has risen > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Harrison" <NAHarrison@manx.net> > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Being one of those naive unfortunates who paid up front for the whole kit > > and seriously suffered the consequences of EMIL's (Keith Wilson's) > > "mismanagement" , I was delighted to hear that Europa (2004) Ltd has risen > > from the ashes, Pheonix-like, of the demise of EMIL. It is great that Andy > > Draper is heavily involved, too. I spoke to him on the 8th September, day > 2 > > or 3 of the new company's existence and they were busy doing a stock check > > of their newly acquired assets. While I appeciate that Europa (2004) Ltd > has > > no obligation to honour the contracts of EMIL, Andy was at pains to say > that > > once they have defined their strategy with regard to those in my position, > > they will do their best to sort things out. However I would think we may > > still have to carry our losses, in whole or in part, . > > > > Of interest to you all, was that he advised me that the administrators was > > busy "scrubbing their files", presumably having completed their duties to > > the court, so the new company may not have any record of customers' kit > > deficiencies. He suggested that I provide him with a list of those parts > not > > provided by EMIL in my kit. To help Andy gauge the size of the problem, I > > suggest that all those of you still owed parts having paid for them, > > provide Andy with the list of your kit's deficiencies as soon as possible. > > > > Here's to the bright future for Europa (2004) Ltd. Cheers!!! > > > > Nigel Harrison > > #584 > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. > > http://www.manx.net/default.asp?id=25 > > ************************************************************* > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:32:37 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Transponder issues
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I posted a similar note on the avionics list if anyone has some ideas please contact me. I have UPS SL70 mounted in my composite Europa. Up until recently it has operated faultlessly, but I a recent trip between Wisconsin and Arkansas I had several complaints from ATC that they could not see my transponder, even at 9000'. I am unsure if I have a problem or not, the antenna is mounted in the baggage bay, it is a simple "spike" type mounted on a piece of 6 x 6 aluminum. The cable run is fairly short and it is RG400. I have reseated the transponder, the connection to the coax and to the antenna and I can't spot any obvious problem. During the times that ATC were complaining I was seeing a solid reply to there integrations so the receiver seems to be working fine. I'd appreciate anyone's input on things to check or trouble shooting ideas. I'd also like to know what installations people have out there that are working fine. I am thinking that maybe I have to mount the antenna on the belly of he aircraft with a ground plane. Thanks, Paul




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