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1. 02:18 AM - Re: Re: Fuel drain modification? (Jos Okhuijsen)
2. 02:27 AM - Nav planning software for Mac? (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
3. 02:59 AM - Re: Nav planning software for Mac? (Gerry Holland)
4. 03:40 AM - Re: Nav planning software for Mac? (Gerry Holland)
5. 04:24 AM - Re: Nav planning software for Mac? (Rowland Carson)
6. 07:18 AM - Re: Transponder issues (Fergus Kyle)
7. 09:21 AM - Re: Transponder issues (MICHAEL PARKIN)
8. 11:54 AM - XS Prop spinner (Duncan McFadyean)
9. 02:44 PM - Re: Transponder issues (Fergus Kyle)
10. 03:39 PM - Re: Transponder issues (MICHAEL PARKIN)
11. 03:53 PM - Re: Transponder issues (Fred Fillinger)
12. 04:32 PM - Tie Bar and Vent location 4) Questions (Ronald J. Parigoris)
13. 05:21 PM - Re: Transponder issues (Fergus Kyle)
14. 06:03 PM - Dedication and committment (Fred R. Klein)
15. 06:28 PM - Re: Dedication and committment (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
16. 06:39 PM - The rise of Europa (Dave Anderson)
17. 08:15 PM - Re: Dedication and committment (Fred R. Klein)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Fuel drain modification? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> kirjoitti Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:42:29
+0300:
> you are absolutely right:
I know, just as usual :-)
> "In winter here we add an extra additive to"
>
> No, WE did not add. Maybe some old Escort owners only.
> And those teenagers are doing it only for superstitious.
> Normal people just tank and drive.
> Thats the way we live, driving and flying.
> W/o extras.
Hubly disagree. Malmi, jan and feb: The FBO was adding antifreeze to the
100LL, "compound".
Same stuff was added to the club planes here in Lapland at the April
skiplane camp. Fuel tank samples are not taken below zero, because if
there would be water it would be frozen on/in the drains. Good chance they
would not close at all afterwards.
In Lapland we add petrol and diesel antifreeze (some kind of alcohol?) at
the start of the freezing temperatures once and every time the cars are
returning from the South, having been in + degrees. And yes, we have seen
frozen filters and fuel lines many times. But then you are living way
South eh?
> PS: something wrong with my wifes coffee?
Absolutely not, and i really enjoyed it. Would have taken another litre,
if i would not be in such a hurry to see your project :-)
Jos #600
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| Subject: | Nav planning software for Mac? |
--> Europa-List message posted by:
Hi
Anybody knowing of nav-planning software, which can run on Mac
computers?
Regards Gert
Gert Dalgaard Soerensen
Europa builder No. 151
Europa Classic / Rotax 914
AC reg.: OY-GDS
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| Subject: | Re: Nav planning software for Mac? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Gert Hi!
> Anybody knowing of nav-planning software, which can run on Mac
> computers?
Try Flight Math from Trivectus: http://www.trivectus.com
It's neat at setting up a Plan like an EB6. Not transferable as yet though
to GPS.
You might look at MacGPSPro: http://www.macgpspro.com.
Good GPS mapping programme including capability to geo reference your own
Maps and importing Waypoints and Routes. Works with Chart Chunks from
AeroPlanner too.
If you are running Virtual PC then obviously all PC Planners in the main
seem to work. I am running PocketFMS that way on a G4 PowerBook with OSX
10.3.5.
Lots of other information around this subject if you need it.
Kind Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Panel near completion.
Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
PSS AoA Fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Nav planning software for Mac? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Gert Hi!
> Anybody knowing of nav-planning software, which can run on Mac
> computers?
Forgot one!
http://homepage.mac.com/scolebrook/MacFlightPlanner/
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Nav planning software for Mac? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004-09-11 11:26 +0200 owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com wrote:
>Anybody knowing of nav-planning software, which can run on Mac
>computers
Gert - you might want to look at GPSy <www.gpsy.com> or MacGPS
<www.macgpspro.com>, as they both incorporate some sort of planning
features.
If buying a portable GPS, consider what physical interface it has for
the computer. There seems at last to be a slow trend among GPS
manufacturers towards USB instead of the old serial port. Keyspan and
others make USB-serial adaptors which current Macs can use, but
experience of those seems a bit variable. Obviously much neater to
have USB on the GPS.
Taking a step backwards, if you don't need or want a graphical
interface on the software, there are plenty of examples of
non-graphical VFR flight planning solutions around as spreadsheets.
John Race marketed one some time back for MS-DOS Lotus-123, described
in a Plot magazine article in June 1991. I bought a copy and
translated for my own use to the Mac spreadsheet Resolve, and then
later to Excel when Claris ceased supporting Resolve. I also have
copies of several other people's spreadsheet versions with different
levels of sophistication.
Just to see if it could be done, I built my own text-interface
version of the classic VFR wind-triangle stuff as a FileMaker Pro
database, but it's not really ready for public view as it has no
proper user interface. Anyone with FileMaker Pro 5 or 6 installed is
welcome to have a copy, though, and let me know your opinons! I guess
if I do any more work on it, it will be in FileMaker Pro 7 as that's
where my development is now concentrated.
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/>
| 710 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder issues |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
PS: I was wrong once before. I thought I was wrong, but I was wrong - I was
right.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder issues
| Fergus Kyle wrote:
| >The only way to increase the radiation is to turn the flat disc
| > of alu into a cone at up to 45deg from the axis of the 'spike'
| > this might tune the antenna more closely to the 50ohm characteristic
| > of cable and spike. You should not have to place the spike on the
| > exterior to improve it.
| > ...
| > PS: - maybe the metal nearby 'blanked' your reply - try changing
| > direction if you get a complaint.
|
| Ferg, I agree with your analysis technically, but FAA requires only
| 125 watts to pass the test, which means their equipment must be able
| to accept some lower output, may be even 50W. The SL-70 puts out
| 250W, not "nominal" but minimum. These things have to 100% reliably
| work in the enroute IFR environment, where in the U.S., at least, they
| have paint you with two radar sites, and one of which can be a
| backstop "super site" in each sector, capable of receiving your
| interrogation at MEAs of only 'bout 3,000' AGL a couple hundred miles
| away, a rather enormous path loss.
|
| Tweaking impedance or radiation pattern I think is unlikely to fix
| anything, especially if ATC can receive your interrogations, under
| that antenna "law of reciprocity" thing!
|
| Reg,
| Fred F.
Beats me, Lieutenant,
Fred,
You de man. I know nothing of the technical side of ATC's
regime, so you are probably right about the power business. Although, I
understood that the average power out was miniscule when the pulse was at
250W minimum but the pulse is very short thus reducing the average.
Otherwise the power output could sterilize us all....... That's the limit of
my ken.
Nevertheless I understood the question to be, "what do I do to
the antenna?" I couldn't see moving it to the belly (outside understood) as
achieving much, whereas revision in situ seemd more efficient - providing as
you say, it is in a proper site/alignment to start with. Also the comment on
'ground plane' seemed ominous.
I concluded that ATC eggheads would have used the same
technology as hams who bounce tiny signals off the moon and catch one
millionth of the outbound signal on return - and these at ATC freqs
(approx). That's 500,000 miles and two atmospheres. I see the loss of signal
due topgraphy but not path length.
You did not comment on directivity/blanking. You don't suppose
those periods of ATC non-reception to be this cause? It seems outlandish but
such things do exist methinks. What would you propose?; I am interested in
your thoughts.............
Cheers, Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder issues |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Fergus,
Me tinks you are avoiding the answer that you don't want!!!! I have a UPS
SL70 transponder, and what an excellent peice of kit it is. It sounds to me
that we have virtually identical installations. Standard lollipop antenna
with about a 5" diameter aluminium (aluminum in american)ground plane
installed behind the baggage bay, lower fuselage. Mine works a treat so far
and has done since installation. So, IMHO, the problem you have is not in
the installation configuration - you have a fault. Cabling , connectors or
the SL70 box itself. Sorry I can't be more comforting.
regards
MP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder issues
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>
>
> PS: I was wrong once before. I thought I was wrong, but I was wrong - I
was
> right.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder issues
>
> Beats me, Lieutenant,
> Fred,
> You de man. I know nothing of the technical side of ATC's
> regime, so you are probably right about the power business. Although, I
> understood that the average power out was miniscule when the pulse was at
> 250W minimum but the pulse is very short thus reducing the average.
> Otherwise the power output could sterilize us all....... That's the limit
of
> my ken.
> Nevertheless I understood the question to be, "what do I do to
> the antenna?" I couldn't see moving it to the belly (outside understood)
as
> achieving much, whereas revision in situ seemd more efficient - providing
as
> you say, it is in a proper site/alignment to start with. Also the comment
on
> 'ground plane' seemed ominous.
> I concluded that ATC eggheads would have used the same
> technology as hams who bounce tiny signals off the moon and catch one
> millionth of the outbound signal on return - and these at ATC freqs
> (approx). That's 500,000 miles and two atmospheres. I see the loss of
signal
> due topgraphy but not path length.
> You did not comment on directivity/blanking. You don't suppose
> those periods of ATC non-reception to be this cause? It seems outlandish
but
> such things do exist methinks. What would you propose?; I am interested in
> your thoughts.............
> Cheers, Ferg
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Does anyone in/near to the West Midlands (UK) have an unstarted XS prop
spinner that I could borrow for a weekend?
Will finish and paint if desired.
Duncan McF
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder issues |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder issues
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN"
<mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
|
| Fergus,
|
| Me tinks you are avoiding the answer that you don't want!!!! I have a
UPS
| SL70 transponder, and what an excellent peice of kit it is. It sounds to
me
| that we have virtually identical installations. Standard lollipop antenna
| with about a 5" diameter aluminium (aluminum in american)ground plane
| installed behind the baggage bay, lower fuselage. Mine works a treat so
far
| and has done since installation. So, IMHO, the problem you have is not
in
| the installation configuration - you have a fault. Cabling , connectors
or
| the SL70 box itself. Sorry I can't be more comforting.
|
| regards
|
| MP
Well, now, Moikle, me ol' trout,
I don't want an answer. I don't have a problem, although the net
now thinks I do! I tink you've confused me with the original complainant, so
sent this sotto voce.
Cheers, Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder issues |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Will nigha, a tousand apologies Sur, I was a tinkin to be a starting my
missive wit a "FRE" an made it an "FER" instead. Dyslexia rules "KO".
regards,
MP
PS. What has this italian chappie Sotto Voce got to do with it, I thought
it was Fred's Transponder.
> Well, now, Moikle, me ol' trout,
> I don't want an answer. I don't have a problem, although the
net
> now thinks I do! I tink you've confused me with the original complainant,
so
> sent this sotto voce.
> Cheers, Ferg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder issues |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> You did not comment on directivity/blanking. You don't suppose
> those periods of ATC non-reception to be this cause? It seems
> outlandish but such things do exist methinks. What would you
> propose? I am interested in your thoughts.............
> Cheers, Ferg
If your reply lamp is blinking, but ATC can't see it, then under the
reciprocity law, it's unlikely the antenna installation. However,
now, there's no way to know whether the replies behind the blinking
light are associated with the ATC facility you're talking to. The
radar site(s) ATC is using to interrogate you could indeed be within a
null area in your radiation pattern, and therefore a likely
installation issue. In fact, more so lately, you could merely be
replying to TCAS interrogations from an airplane close by, and many of
the TCAS boxes blast you with about 400 watts worth of interrogatory,
I guess for safety and thus legal liability reasons.
All the more why nothing certain can be deduced from a blinking reply
light, except a 50-cent lamp is good!
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Tie Bar and Vent location 4) Questions |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hello Andy
I hope all is going well with your new venture.
"GOOD LUCK" !!!
1) I have an Accelerated CPM and monogear XS. There is a clearance relief for tie
bar incorporated in the pitch tube tunnel. The manual shows how to cut a relief.
Do I need
to bond the tie rod to the tunnel of the CPM to prevent buckling under compression
loads? If so what is best way to do it? I was going to paint the tie rod before
installing,
do i need a scuff sanded bond to the rod, or just a cuddle to the paint?
2) The tie bar does not lay flat on the fuse, it calls for filling the void with
flox. Should I best use Redux or Aeropoxy? Should I scuff sand and bond to both
surfaces?
3)The front lift pin socket pad needs reinforcing on the inside of fuse. It calls
for blue foam to be used. Can I substitute Balsa?
4) What is the best location for he NACA vents? (Dimensions ?)
Thx.
Sincerely
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder issues |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder issues
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
|
| > You did not comment on directivity/blanking. You don't suppose
| > those periods of ATC non-reception to be this cause? It seems
| > outlandish but such things do exist methinks. What would you
| > propose? I am interested in your thoughts.............
| > Cheers, Ferg
|
| If your reply lamp is blinking, but ATC can't see it, then under the
| reciprocity law, it's unlikely the antenna installation. However,
| now, there's no way to know whether the replies behind the blinking
| light are associated with the ATC facility you're talking to. The
| radar site(s) ATC is using to interrogate you could indeed be within a
| null area in your radiation pattern, and therefore a likely
| installation issue. In fact, more so lately, you could merely be
| replying to TCAS interrogations from an airplane close by, and many of
| the TCAS boxes blast you with about 400 watts worth of interrogatory,
| I guess for safety and thus legal liability reasons.
| All the more why nothing certain can be deduced from a blinking reply
| light, except a 50-cent lamp is good!
| Reg,
| Fred F.
Right-o, Fred,
About this reciprocity law - I think it was passed while my back
was turned (probably against the wall). If the interrogation system is
anything like the aerochat freqs, the ATC interrogator probably has many
more watts output than does the transponder. That may be reciprocity in the
master/slave market, but is it true for the ATC txpdr too?
cheers, Ferg
Could we make a fortune trading the 50-center for a dime LED?
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| Subject: | Dedication and committment |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Hi All,
While discussing the energies required to build an aircraft, my son remarked
that there was an essential distinction between dedication and committment.
He claims it has something to do with bacon and eggs...
Any takers?
Fred
A194
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| Subject: | Re: Dedication and committment |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
In a message dated 9/11/2004 8:05:42 PM Central Standard Time,
fklein@orcasonline.com writes:
He claims it has something to do with bacon and eggs...
Hello Fred:
Please allow this Texan to reply.
The chicken is dedicated to your breakfast. The hog is committed.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.
Brian S < S IS FOR SWINE>
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
See my build photos at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | The rise of Europa |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net>
HI group,
It seems from what I have gathered that the new Europa has completely ignored the
US market. As far as I know, the US sales office has not been included in the
revival of the company. If they happen to be out there, to me they are making
at least three mistakes. Two mistakes are not capitalizing on the talents of
John Hurst and Neville Eyre. They were EXTREMELY valuable, from my personal
perspective having completed an aircraft in 11 full time and 4 part time months.
Dealing with an office in the US, as responsive as John made it, was a critical
part of all of this. As useful as all your inputs were off this list, Neville
was the one who made the construction of the mini U2 possible. Big mistake.
The third mistake is not having a US sales office. John Hurst was extremely valuable
and went WAY above that required to support the US customers. I personally
saw him stay after midnight helping a buyer load up his kit - all on his OWN
TIME!!! He has a genuine enthusiasm for the airplane that is contagious. In
addition to sales, he was doing development work and interfacing with the sub
components such as Rotax and Airmaster.
On the subject of Airmaster, A fellow Europa builder out here having built one
of the first kits in the US (he can be seen on the sales video) ordered and PAID
for an Airmaster prop. That prop never showed up to the tune of $5200. This
is obviously a situation that is totally unacceptable. It borders on theft. Right
on the border.
Also, in the trouble shooting of my 914 engine, I have looked over everything and
found that there may have been a manifold leak through the joint between the
carb tray and the intake. I can't believe they use O rings for that, but they
do. Both O rings were swollen to the point they would not go in the groove.
I have made gaskets for both sides of the carb tray and it runs very smoothly
now, but not perfect. My next thing to investigate is the fuel pressure regulation.
I purchased the differential fuel pressure sender from UMA at OSH and just
have it now installed. On the ground it reads about 3.5 psi above airbox pressure.
That is right EXCEPT when both pumps are on, it reads close to 6 PSI.
Tomorrow morning I will do a flight to see what readings I am getting. It is supposed
to maintain the fuel pressure 3.5 psi above airbox pressure, with acceptable
ranges of 2 to 5 psid. If the pressure it too high, the carb bowls can
overflow and cause rich running and worse. Before anyone asks, the line back to
the tank is perfectly clear 3/8 inch aluminum line all the way back. There is
no restriction. I get close to 40 gph circulating around the loop. The engine
has never had what I would call a satisfying run-up, but it is within limits,
so I fly.
More progress, one day at a time.
Dave
A227
Mini U2
240 TT
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| Subject: | Re: Dedication and committment |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
on 9/11/04 5:27 PM, EuropaXSA276@aol.com at EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 9/11/2004 8:05:42 PM Central Standard Time,
> fklein@orcasonline.com writes:
> He claims it has something to do with bacon and eggs...
> Hello Fred:
>
> Please allow this Texan to reply.
>
> The chicken is dedicated to your breakfast. The hog is committed.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE.
>
>
> Brian S < S IS FOR SWINE>
> A276
Brian,
Day amm...that didn't take long...You definitely got the drift, thou down in
Texas, I spect you'd be dealing w/ hawwgs.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.
FRED
A194
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