Europa-List Digest Archive

Mon 09/13/04


Total Messages Posted: 30



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     1. 12:12 AM - Re: Re Open Letter and New Europa (Peter Grant)
     2. 12:12 AM - Re: fuel filler tube (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     3. 12:28 AM - Re: fuel filler tube (Kingsley Hurst)
     4. 12:43 AM - Re: fuel filler tube (Johnsen, Svein K.)
     5. 02:01 AM - Re: Re Open Letter and New Europa (nigel charles)
     6. 02:22 AM - FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (Jeremy Davey)
     7. 02:41 AM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (Alan Burrows)
     8. 02:44 AM - FW: Re Open Letter and New Europa (Jeremy Davey)
     9. 03:11 AM - Re: Airmaster (mike toft)
    10. 03:20 AM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (Peter Grant)
    11. 03:23 AM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (Jeremy Davey)
    12. 03:25 AM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-... (UVTReith@aol.com)
    13. 03:53 AM - nose gear leg steel quality ()
    14. 03:59 AM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (Alan Burrows)
    15. 04:59 AM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (Richard Iddon)
    16. 05:48 AM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (Jeremy Davey)
    17. 09:13 AM - MONOwheel trailre for sale - UK ()
    18. 09:49 AM - US creditors (Steve L.)
    19. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: Fuel drain modification? (Raimo Toivio)
    20. 12:44 PM - Propellers (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
    21. 01:18 PM - Re: Propellers (Richard Holder)
    22. 01:31 PM - Re: Propellers (Mark Burton)
    23. 01:35 PM - Re: Propellers (Terry Seaver)
    24. 02:12 PM - battery space (Raimo Toivio)
    25. 03:26 PM - Re: Propellers ()
    26. 03:47 PM - Re: Propellers (R.C.Harrison)
    27. 04:00 PM - Re: Propellers (SPurpura@aol.com)
    28. 05:41 PM - Re: Propellers (Christine and Peter Timm)
    29. 06:33 PM - Electronic Instruments (Kingsley Hurst)
    30. 08:25 PM - Re: Propellers (Bill & Sue Sisley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:12:05 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
    Subject: Re Open Letter and New Europa
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk> I'd just like to add to Dave's comments about the Europa Flyer magazine. I am, as he said, the new Editor (they say in the army 'never volunteer for anything' and they could be right!). I am also brand new to the Europa Club, being an owner and flyer but not a builder. So, I come in with a view uncomplicated by anything from the past, real or imagined. Point of this message is to assure ALL Europa builders and owners that this Club exists to serve ALL of them, whatever their geographic or other distribution. Please, any or all of you, send your stories, pictures, letters etc to me, and I will do my best to make sure that we give the appearance of representing everyone, as well as really so doing! And, you can be sure that the Club really does try to represent everyone. Without the input from international Club members, the magazine will be a much poorer read. Regards Peter Grant +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ G-OGAN Europa TriGear Build No: 100 Rebuilt after serious prang with long XS wings and Airmaster VP prop. Rotax 912S. 150 hours. This email is intended for the sole use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. Sorry, no liability for misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically checked by Norton Anti-Virus. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaveBuzz@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re Open Letter and New Europa --> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com . and I welcome your joining the Club, Ira. I've just had a look and of the 162 non-UK Members, 55 of those are now from the USA. And the only reason the Club is 'UK-centric'... is because we *seldom* hear from the rest of the World 8-0) !!! Yes John, I was interested in your trip down the East Coast to Florida a year or so ago, and Richard's article about operating in Kenya was amazing. What do the rest of you get up to with your Europas? Articles (NOT to me please!) to our new Editor: Peter Grant peter@us-eurolink.co.uk chus, dave


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    Time: 12:12:35 AM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: fuel filler tube
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Klass, The main reason is because the rubber tube supplied with the Europa kit allowed fuel to weep through and gave many aircraft a heavy fuel smell. Now people use the aluminum tube and cut two pieces of the rubber tube to act as a splice from the filler port to the aluminum tube then from the aluminum tube to the tank. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Just about to put the top on but still finding little things to do before that.


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    Time: 12:28:27 AM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: fuel filler tube
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Klaas wrote:- > I found out on the site that a lot of builders install an alluminium fuel filler pipe, Can anyone explain the reason. Klaas The main reason for the aluminium filler pipe is to stop the fuel smell which results from using the inferior rubber hose. Regards Kingsley Hurst Mono Classic 281 in Oz.


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    Time: 12:43:08 AM PST US
    Subject: fuel filler tube
    From: "Johnsen, Svein K." <Svein.Johnsen@mossww.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Johnsen, Svein K." <Svein.Johnsen@MossWW.com> - " Now people use the aluminum tube and cut two pieces of the rubber tube to act as a splice from the filler port to the aluminum tube then from the aluminum tube to the tank. " - while others have substituted the rubber tube by (presumably) better quality tube (special order at automotive supply store, even comes with copper grounding cable, but regret I do not know the material), which - if it works - also avoids possible seeping through the splices between the moulded filler and the alu and between the alu and the tank. Regards, Svein A225 - now in Norway - fitting doors (hint: Do NOT rely on the cross marked in the rear of the doors for the shoot bolt bushing hole - follow the manual's instructions - and do not rely on even the corrected shoot bolt arm length measurements in Europa News some time back, make your own measurements!!)


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    Time: 02:01:45 AM PST US
    From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Re Open Letter and New Europa
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk> >I will even rejoin the club, UK-centric as it is< The club might appear UK-centric because there is little support and input from abroad. How many articles for the magazine come from outside the UK? I would think about 10% at best. If you want a more international club it is best achieved by contribution. I am sure that our new editor would welcome articles from all corners of the globe. There are also other ways that we could have a more united and international club. Like the factory had a USA office we could look at including a USA representative on the club committee. A successful club needs people who think about what they can do for the club as well as what can it do for them. I know that from within the committee, a lot of time consuming unpaid work is done. If this is not providing the service you would like then get involved and get it changed. Provided your opinions are shared by others progress can be made. Now that it looks like we have past the lowest point in the Europa's history so far, let us all work together whether in the club, on the forum or in any other capacity to ensure that this great little aircraft has the support it deserves. About 10 years ago Michael Burke (a TV presenter in both the UK and the USA) did a series of programmes called 'Connections' looking at how the best inventions were achieved by technologies coming together at a critical point in time. In a minor way I believe that the Europa could be considered to be one of these. The combination of composite construction (from Rutan), modern engine technology (from Rotax), exceptional aerodynamic expertise (from Don Dykins) and many areas of development in electronics and computers enabled Ivan Shaw to design such an outstanding aircraft. There are very few aircraft that can take-off from grass strips, carry 520lb payload for over 4 hours at 120kts whilst only burning 15 litres/hr. This started as a concept about 15 years ago and whilst the product has been developed, the original design still stands up against newer machines. I my opinion there is still no better aircraft for this area of the kit built market. I will get off my soap box now. Regards Nigel Charles


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    Time: 02:22:07 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Anyone out there interested in a fly-in in Germany coming up? Sounds like a good one! Regards, Jeremy _____ From: UVTReith@aol.com [mailto:UVTReith@aol.com] Subject: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 Dear Europa Pilots, Every two years will be the exhibition Airborne at Stadtlohn-Vreden, former known as Take-Off. Two years ago we have had an exhibition stand there and the two company demonstrators (with G-KITZ/Keith Wilson and G-GBXS/Mark Waite). The KITZ was beside our exhibition stand and the GBXS was in the flight-line for demoflies. It was a great exhibition. This time, due to the special situation, we will go again, but together with the OUV (under the umbrella of OUV), but still we will have info packs with us. It would be great, when so many pilots as possible could make it for a fly-in. Stadtlohn-Vreden is only just behind the dutch border and easy to reach. It's only worth to come, as also a lot of other exhibitors will be there and airshows / demoflies are going on the hole days. More info you can get from: www.flugplatz-stadtlohn.de Would like to welcome you, I remain with best regards Bruno Reith / kit 379 Monowheel XS with Brabus engine, ready springtime 05 Europa Aircraft Distributor Germany (www.europa-aircraft.de)


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    Time: 02:41:41 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> When is it? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" --> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Anyone out there interested in a fly-in in Germany coming up? Sounds like a good one! Regards, Jeremy _____ From: UVTReith@aol.com [mailto:UVTReith@aol.com] Subject: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 Dear Europa Pilots, Every two years will be the exhibition Airborne at Stadtlohn-Vreden, former known as Take-Off. Two years ago we have had an exhibition stand there and the two company demonstrators (with G-KITZ/Keith Wilson and G-GBXS/Mark Waite). The KITZ was beside our exhibition stand and the GBXS was in the flight-line for demoflies. It was a great exhibition. This time, due to the special situation, we will go again, but together with the OUV (under the umbrella of OUV), but still we will have info packs with us. It would be great, when so many pilots as possible could make it for a fly-in. Stadtlohn-Vreden is only just behind the dutch border and easy to reach. It's only worth to come, as also a lot of other exhibitors will be there and airshows / demoflies are going on the hole days. More info you can get from: www.flugplatz-stadtlohn.de Would like to welcome you, I remain with best regards Bruno Reith / kit 379 Monowheel XS with Brabus engine, ready springtime 05 Europa Aircraft Distributor Germany (www.europa-aircraft.de) == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 02:44:41 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: Re Open Letter and New Europa
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> "Now that it looks like we have past the lowest point in the Europa's history so far, let us all work together whether in the club, on the forum or in any other capacity to ensure that this great little aircraft has the support it deserves." If folks don't mind, I'd like to expand on Nigel's point quoted above with some of my own thoughts. I genuinely believe we are at a turning point for this little aircraft type. Consider the following: 1) We have a new Factory operation that everyone believes can do the job properly to the benefit of fliers, builders and newcomers to our community 2) Without wanting to pre-empt things, there is a realistic opportunity to get Sport Plane wings for the US market, glider wings for the European market, a Factory taildragger version for all markets, etc. 3) In the UK we have three Europa folks on the PFA's Executive Committee who can ensure that the scope for using these wonderful planes to their fullest is created over here 4) We have massive change going on in European aviation regulation - which could lead to significant new capabilities over here to match the freedoms our North American friends already have 5) From talking to a few folks, I believe there is now a much better understanding around the world of the Club, its strengths, what it can do and has done for the Europa community, and what is needed to benefit more folks outside the UK 6) I see on this Forum a great willingness for everyone to pull together for the benefit of all The sooner I can get G-EZZA in the air and start having some of this fun, the better! :-) Cheers, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel charles Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re Open Letter and New Europa --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk> >I will even rejoin the club, UK-centric as it is< The club might appear UK-centric because there is little support and input from abroad. How many articles for the magazine come from outside the UK? I would think about 10% at best. If you want a more international club it is best achieved by contribution. I am sure that our new editor would welcome articles from all corners of the globe. There are also other ways that we could have a more united and international club. Like the factory had a USA office we could look at including a USA representative on the club committee. A successful club needs people who think about what they can do for the club as well as what can it do for them. I know that from within the committee, a lot of time consuming unpaid work is done. If this is not providing the service you would like then get involved and get it changed. Provided your opinions are shared by others progress can be made. Now that it looks like we have past the lowest point in the Europa's history so far, let us all work together whether in the club, on the forum or in any other capacity to ensure that this great little aircraft has the support it deserves. About 10 years ago Michael Burke (a TV presenter in both the UK and the USA) did a series of programmes called 'Connections' looking at how the best inventions were achieved by technologies coming together at a critical point in time. In a minor way I believe that the Europa could be considered to be one of these. The combination of composite construction (from Rutan), modern engine technology (from Rotax), exceptional aerodynamic expertise (from Don Dykins) and many areas of development in electronics and computers enabled Ivan Shaw to design such an outstanding aircraft. There are very few aircraft that can take-off from grass strips, carry 520lb payload for over 4 hours at 120kts whilst only burning 15 litres/hr. This started as a concept about 15 years ago and whilst the product has been developed, the original design still stands up against newer machines. I my opinion there is still no better aircraft for this area of the kit built market. I will get off my soap box now. Regards Nigel Charles


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    Time: 03:11:38 AM PST US
    From: "mike toft" <watervet@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: Re: Airmaster
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "mike toft" <watervet@mweb.co.za> Hi all It is not just Europa builders in the states that have come unstuck with EMIL - we also ordered and paid for an Airmaster prop for a triGear here - with the sane result - I think you 're very polite when you say it borders on theft - it was out and out Fraud. Regards Mike Toft ZU CTG 914 Trigear Airmaster(going wonderfully) 78 hours flying time and still VERY happy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net> Subject: Europa-List: Airmaster > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net> > > I would like to follow up a previous email briefly. I mentioned that a builder ordered an Airmaster prop and never received it. Just to clear things up in case there is any misunderstanding, as far as I know the situation, the money he paid for the prop went to Europa and never made it to Airmaster. Obviously this is no fault of Airmaster. I have an Airmaster prop and have had superb service and support from Airmaster - no complaints there at all. > > I hope this clears it up. > > Dave > A227 > Mini U2 > >


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    Time: 03:20:49 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
    Subject: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk> Unfortunately, their website seems to give every bit of information except the date! Regards Peter Grant +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ G-OGAN Europa TriGear Build No: 100 Rebuilt after serious prang with long XS wings and Airmaster VP prop. Rotax 912S. 150 hours. This email is intended for the sole use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. Sorry, no liability for misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically checked by Norton Anti-Virus. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Anyone out there interested in a fly-in in Germany coming up? Sounds like a good one! Regards, Jeremy _____ From: UVTReith@aol.com [mailto:UVTReith@aol.com] Subject: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 Dear Europa Pilots, Every two years will be the exhibition Airborne at Stadtlohn-Vreden, former known as Take-Off. Two years ago we have had an exhibition stand there and the two company demonstrators (with G-KITZ/Keith Wilson and G-GBXS/Mark Waite). The KITZ was beside our exhibition stand and the GBXS was in the flight-line for demoflies. It was a great exhibition. This time, due to the special situation, we will go again, but together with the OUV (under the umbrella of OUV), but still we will have info packs with us. It would be great, when so many pilots as possible could make it for a fly-in. Stadtlohn-Vreden is only just behind the dutch border and easy to reach. It's only worth to come, as also a lot of other exhibitors will be there and airshows / demoflies are going on the hole days. More info you can get from: www.flugplatz-stadtlohn.de Would like to welcome you, I remain with best regards Bruno Reith / kit 379 Monowheel XS with Brabus engine, ready springtime 05 Europa Aircraft Distributor Germany (www.europa-aircraft.de)


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    Time: 03:23:51 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Well, according to the subject line it's 24th to 26th September 2004 :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> When is it? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" --> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Anyone out there interested in a fly-in in Germany coming up? Sounds like a good one! Regards, Jeremy _____ From: UVTReith@aol.com [mailto:UVTReith@aol.com] Subject: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 Dear Europa Pilots, Every two years will be the exhibition Airborne at Stadtlohn-Vreden, former known as Take-Off. Two years ago we have had an exhibition stand there and the two company demonstrators (with G-KITZ/Keith Wilson and G-GBXS/Mark Waite). The KITZ was beside our exhibition stand and the GBXS was in the flight-line for demoflies. It was a great exhibition. This time, due to the special situation, we will go again, but together with the OUV (under the umbrella of OUV), but still we will have info packs with us. It would be great, when so many pilots as possible could make it for a fly-in. Stadtlohn-Vreden is only just behind the dutch border and easy to reach. It's only worth to come, as also a lot of other exhibitors will be there and airshows / demoflies are going on the hole days. More info you can get from: www.flugplatz-stadtlohn.de Would like to welcome you, I remain with best regards Bruno Reith / kit 379 Monowheel XS with Brabus engine, ready springtime 05 Europa Aircraft Distributor Germany (www.europa-aircraft.de) == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 03:25:27 AM PST US
    From: UVTReith@aol.com
    Subject: Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-... --> Europa-List message posted by: UVTReith@aol.com In einer eMail vom 13.09.2004 12:21:44 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt peter@us-eurolink.co.uk: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk> Unfortunately, their website seems to give every bit of information except the date! Regards Peter Grant +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ G-OGAN Europa TriGear Build No: 100 Rebuilt after serious prang with long XS wings and Airmaster VP prop. Rotax 912S. 150 hours. This email is intended for the sole use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. Sorry, no liability for misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically checked by Norton Anti-Virus. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Anyone out there interested in a fly-in in Germany coming up? Sounds like a good one! Regards, Jeremy _____ From: UVTReith@aol.com [mailto:UVTReith@aol.com] Subject: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 Dear Europa Pilots, Every two years will be the exhibition Airborne at Stadtlohn-Vreden, former known as Take-Off. Two years ago we have had an exhibition stand there and the two company demonstrators (with G-KITZ/Keith Wilson and G-GBXS/Mark Waite). The KITZ was beside our exhibition stand and the GBXS was in the flight-line for demoflies. It was a great exhibition. This time, due to the special situation, we will go again, but together with the OUV (under the umbrella of OUV), but still we will have info packs with us. It would be great, when so many pilots as possible could make it for a fly-in. Stadtlohn-Vreden is only just behind the dutch border and easy to reach. It's only worth to come, as also a lot of other exhibitors will be there and airshows / demoflies are going on the hole days. More info you can get from: www.flugplatz-stadtlohn.de Would like to welcome you, I remain with best regards Bruno Reith / kit 379 Monowheel XS with Brabus engine, ready springtime 05 Europa Aircraft Distributor Germany (www.europa-aircraft.de) Dear Peter, The date of the Airborne is 24. - 26.09.2004. Kind Regards, Bruno


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    Time: 03:53:46 AM PST US
    From: <Herbert.Habersatter@weiz.cc>
    Subject: nose gear leg steel quality
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <Herbert.Habersatter@weiz.cc> Dear Europa builders and pilots ! Who knows the steel quality of the nose gear leg? Additional it would be good to know the supplier of this part. Can anybody help? Thank you!! Best regards Herbert Habersatter


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    Time: 03:59:08 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Oh shame, by then I will be in the Florida sun enjoying the calm peaceful sunshine...someone has to do it I guess :-) Cheers Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" --> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Well, according to the subject line it's 24th to 26th September 2004 :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> When is it? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" --> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Anyone out there interested in a fly-in in Germany coming up? Sounds like a good one! Regards, Jeremy _____ From: UVTReith@aol.com [mailto:UVTReith@aol.com] Subject: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 Dear Europa Pilots, Every two years will be the exhibition Airborne at Stadtlohn-Vreden, former known as Take-Off. Two years ago we have had an exhibition stand there and the two company demonstrators (with G-KITZ/Keith Wilson and G-GBXS/Mark Waite). The KITZ was beside our exhibition stand and the GBXS was in the flight-line for demoflies. It was a great exhibition. This time, due to the special situation, we will go again, but together with the OUV (under the umbrella of OUV), but still we will have info packs with us. It would be great, when so many pilots as possible could make it for a fly-in. Stadtlohn-Vreden is only just behind the dutch border and easy to reach. It's only worth to come, as also a lot of other exhibitors will be there and airshows / demoflies are going on the hole days. More info you can get from: www.flugplatz-stadtlohn.de Would like to welcome you, I remain with best regards Bruno Reith / kit 379 Monowheel XS with Brabus engine, ready springtime 05 Europa Aircraft Distributor Germany (www.europa-aircraft.de) == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 04:59:20 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
    Subject: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com> And the next Hurricane Alan?? Richard Iddon G-RIXS Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Oh shame, by then I will be in the Florida sun enjoying the calm peaceful sunshine...someone has to do it I guess :-) Cheers Alan


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    Time: 05:48:14 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Is it usually windy around Alan? :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com> And the next Hurricane Alan?? Richard Iddon G-RIXS Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Oh shame, by then I will be in the Florida sun enjoying the calm peaceful sunshine...someone has to do it I guess :-) Cheers Alan


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    Time: 09:13:01 AM PST US
    Subject: MONOwheel trailre for sale - UK
    From: <mjbullen@boltblue.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <mjbullen@boltblue.com> Hi, I have a trailer for a monowheel for sale in the UK (Yorkshire). It's in excellent condition, and available immediately. 1,500 or offer Mike Bullen tel 07971 474768 Sent with "Me-Mail", Boltblue's FREE mobile messaging service. http://www.boltblue.com


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    Time: 09:49:11 AM PST US
    From: "Steve L." <flyer208@charter.net>
    Subject: US creditors
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve L." <flyer208@charter.net> I've been doing some light reading ( yawn) on the US bankruptcy laws, section 304, that concerns US creditors of a foreign company doing business in the US. I am not a lawyer, but it seems to me that the assets held in the US by the former Europa company (EMIL) could be liquidated and used to satisfy creditor debts (in part), also in the US. I understand that the New Europa company has not purchased the US assets and therefore, I would guess, Redman Nichols somehow has to deal with this section of US law. Does anybody know more about this? Has anyone heard what is going on in the US regarding creditor debt? Steve L.


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    Time: 12:30:42 PM PST US
    From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
    Subject: Re: RE: Fuel drain modification?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> OK Jos, maybe we both are right: My Cessna lives in wintertime in the warm hangar and so I can take water samples and I do not certainly add any antifreeze. Also, it is strictly forbidden to add any additives according my cars instruction manual (both diesel and petrol). Antifreeze and other additives can cause harm for fuel injection systems. Many people think they are just historical relic and pure business. But, if you have a carburettor in your car or you have to keep your plane outside in winter time, maybe it is better choice to add some magic additives to petrol/diesel.You know it better. We live here in south but as you well know we still can have one or two month -30C. W/o additives and still flying and driving. Maybe next time I will ask my wife to add some special additives to your coffee, OK? ;)) Raimo M W Toivio OH-XRT #417 OH-CVK OH-BLL 37500 Lempaala Finland tel + 358 3 3753 777 fax + 358 3 3753 100 gsm + 358 40 590 1450 raimo.toivio@rwm.fi www.rwm.fi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Fuel drain modification? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> > > Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> kirjoitti Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:42:29 > +0300: > > you are absolutely right: > > I know, just as usual :-) > > > "In winter here we add an extra additive to" > > > > No, WE did not add. Maybe some old Escort owners only. > > And those teenagers are doing it only for superstitious. > > Normal people just tank and drive. > > Thats the way we live, driving and flying. > > W/o extras. > > Hubly disagree. Malmi, jan and feb: The FBO was adding antifreeze to the > 100LL, "compound". > Same stuff was added to the club planes here in Lapland at the April > skiplane camp. Fuel tank samples are not taken below zero, because if > there would be water it would be frozen on/in the drains. Good chance they > would not close at all afterwards. > In Lapland we add petrol and diesel antifreeze (some kind of alcohol?) at > the start of the freezing temperatures once and every time the cars are > returning from the South, having been in + degrees. And yes, we have seen > frozen filters and fuel lines many times. But then you are living way > South eh? > > > PS: something wrong with my wifes coffee? > > Absolutely not, and i really enjoyed it. Would have taken another litre, > if i would not be in such a hurry to see your project :-) > > Jos #600 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:44:50 PM PST US
    From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Hello all, I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. I would like to know how happy you are with those props. My criteria are : reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain ? Please mention your prop flight time. Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! Remi Guerner F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. Hello all, I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. I would like to know how happy you are with those props. My criteria are: reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain? Please mention your prop flight time. Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! Remi Guerner F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914.


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    Time: 01:18:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > Hello all, > I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight > adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. > According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you > flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. > I would like to know how happy you are with those props. > My criteria are : reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. > Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? > What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain ? > Please mention your prop flight time. > Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! > Remi Guerner > F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. As one of those Airmaster/912S owners I can say that it is great, but I haven't used the Airplast. The Airplast I believe is quite skinnily built whereas the Airmaster is more substantial. On the other hand I have Rotax Tacho, Manifold pressure gauge and CS propellor control unit - each is a 2 1/4 inch gauge. All three are combined into one gauge for the CS (VP ?) Arplast. If you are buying a 912S make sure you get the HD starter. I say this because after 97 hours I need a new sprag clutch :-( Was this answer #1 ? Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)


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    Time: 01:31:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    From: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com> Hello Remi, I should say up-front that I have a commercial interest as I manufacture the constant speed controller that is used with the Arplast PV50 (www.smartavionics.com). However, that doesn't stop me having an opinion on the PV50! > I would like to know how happy you are with those props. Overall, I am very happy with the PV50. > My criteria are : reliability/safety, performance, maintenance > requirements. As far as I am aware, there are no safety issues with the PV50. The only reliability issue that I know of is that some people have had to replace the PV50 pitch change motor because it failed. Performance is certainly very good with my 912. Maintenance requirements are minimal (grease leadscrew once in a while). > Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? I have never been in an aircraft fitted with an Airmaster so I can't compare directly but I used to have a Warp Drive fixed pitch prop and I would say that the Arplast is definitely smoother than the Warp drive. > What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain ? This touches on the PV50s weakest area which is that it has no leading edge protection. I have not had any problems with rain erosion but stones are a big problem. I have therefore fitted leading edge protection tape to my propeller to help stop the dings. > Please mention your prop flight time. About 100 hours on this prop and probably similar on a previous PV50 that I was careless enough to break! In terms of value for money, I don't think there is much of a contest. Unless you need the fully-feathering ability of the Airmaster, the PV50/CSC-1 combination provides more features at a lower cost and lower weight. I hope this is useful, Mark PS To save David Joyce the effort, I should mention that the Woodcomp (Kremen) is a very good alternative that deserves serious consideration. Again, much better value than the Airmaster.


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    Time: 01:35:43 PM PST US
    From: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com> Hi Remi, We have a mono-wheel XS with Rotax 912S that has been flying about 3 years. We first flew with the two blade Whirlwind prop with hydraulic constant speed control. It worked well most of the time, but occasionally had trouble with bad vibration under certain throttle/speed conditions. We eventually changed it out for the Airmaster. We later found that the vibrations with the Whirlwind prop were not the prop's fault, but its response to rough running of the engine due to vapor lock. The hydraulic controller had a much faster response time (than the electric units) which added to the vibration caused by the rough motor. The Airmaster prop is fairly smooth, but as a 3 blade prop, not noticeably smoother than the 2 blade Whirlwind was. The Airmaster gives about the same cruise speed and climb rate as the Whirlwind did. The Airmaster makes a better air brake when the throttle is closed, which can be an advantage in decents, but not in a power off glide, unless you feather it. The Airmaster provides poorer cooling on the ground and in the climb than the Whirlwind did (less effective prop wash through the radiators). For a while, we had some difficulties with the Airmaster prop giving us roughness under certain conditions. This turned out to be poor matching of blade incidence, which was eventually cured by returning the blades to the factory, where they were repaired. regards, Terry Seaver A135 / N135TD owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: > >Hello all, >I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. >According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. >I would like to know how happy you are with those props. >My criteria are : reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. >Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? >What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain ? >Please mention your prop flight time. >Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! > Remi Guerner >F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. > > >


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    Time: 02:12:21 PM PST US
    From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
    Subject: battery space
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> Hi All! I got today my battery, which is Hawker/EnerSys Odyssey PC925 (HCA 925A, CCA380A!). I am not sure yet the final location (under the baggage bay or fwf). Those of you who know or can measure: what is the natural storage space available for battery fwf installation? Size of my battery: 169x179x128mm3 (6,64x7,05x5,04in3) Any comments? Room enough? Regards, Raimo M W Toivio OH-XRT #417 OH-CVK OH-BLL 37500 Lempaala Finland tel + 358 3 3753 777 fax + 358 3 3753 100 gsm + 358 40 590 1450 raimo.toivio@rwm.fi www.rwm.fi


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    Time: 03:26:11 PM PST US
    From: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net> Have 260 hours on the Airmaster. Have had good support from NZ and by John in Lakeland(last year). Reliable and simple operation. Flying off grass strip and no erosion of blades. Maintenance is simple, just annual inspection of hub lubrication. Performance is good, Only prop I have used so nothing to compare it to on my plane. Ken Carpenter A123 N9XS Mono 914 ----- Original Message ----- From: <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> Subject: Europa-List: Propellers > --> Europa-List message posted by: > > Hello all, > I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in > flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. > According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you > flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. > I would like to know how happy you are with those props. > My criteria are : reliability/safety, performance, maintenance > requirements. > Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? > What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain ? > Please mention your prop flight time. > Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! > Remi Guerner > F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. > > > Hello all, > > > I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in > flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. > > > According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you > flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. > > > I would like to know how happy you are with those props. > > > My criteria are: reliability/safety, performance, maintenance > requirements. > > > Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? > > > What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain? > > > Please mention your prop flight time. > > > Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! > > > Remi Guerner > > > F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. > > >


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    Time: 03:47:09 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Before you decide be sure you have considered Kremen from Czecho? I've been and seen, good gear. regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 ----- Original Message ----- From: <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> Subject: Europa-List: Propellers > --> Europa-List message posted by: > > Hello all, > I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. > According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. > I would like to know how happy you are with those props. > My criteria are : reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. > Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? > What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain ? > Please mention your prop flight time. > Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! > Remi Guerner > F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. > > > Hello all, > > > I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. > > > According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. > > > I would like to know how happy you are with those props. > > > My criteria are: reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. > > > Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? > > > What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain? > > > Please mention your prop flight time. > > > Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! > > > Remi Guerner > > > F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. > >


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    Time: 04:00:35 PM PST US
    From: SPurpura@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com I'V GOT 300 HRS ON MY WHIRLWIND C/S WITH NO COMPLAINTS I WOULD RECOMEND IT. SAM PURPURA N77EU 914 ROTAX


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    Time: 05:41:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    From: Christine and Peter Timm <cptimm@telus.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Christine and Peter Timm <cptimm@telus.net> Hello Remi: My experience with the Airmaster has been excellent so far. It is attached to an early 912 S and propeled my Classic Europa for 140 hours out of the 238 hrs total time. We fly at 5100 rpm in cruise, which gives us 140 knots in level flight. Vibrations were only encountered early on with the original ground adjustable Warp Drive and turned out to be caused by a wobbly spinner. In August/Sept. of last year we flew from the Pacific Coast in British Columbia to Nova Scotia on the Atlantic and back, a total of 10,000 km, with never a problem. Fuel consumption on this trip averaged 20L an hour, which means of course, that for fuel efficiency one must retard the throttle. Thomas Scherer would be the expert for this, since he flew nearly 20 hrs non-stop from the Aleutians to Japan with the Airmaster prop. cruising at 4000 rpm and 100 knots. I particularly like the braking effect in the circuit with the prop. set at fine pitch. I neglected to do this once or twice and the difference was very obvious. Rain has no effect on the blades. Maintenance is easy, requiring dismantling, cleaning and re-greasing of the hub and blades every 50 hrs . Everybody having seen the internal workings of the Airmaster is very impressed by the quality of the product. The price is higher than most, but you get what you pay for, like with most things. I would recommend it. Regards, Peter Timm Builder # 110 Classic, Mono, 912 S, Airmaster 238 hrs., flying since Dec. 2001 nothing comes close to a Europa with regard to utility, speed, economy, handling and sheer fun to fly! >> Hello all, >> I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight >> adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. >> According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you >> flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. >> I would like to know how happy you are with those props. >> My criteria are : reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. >> Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? >> What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain ? >> Please mention your prop flight time. >> Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! >> Remi Guerner >> F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. > > As one of those Airmaster/912S owners I can say that it is great, but I > haven't used the Airplast. > > The Airplast I believe is quite skinnily built whereas the Airmaster is more > substantial. > > On the other hand I have Rotax Tacho, Manifold pressure gauge and CS > propellor control unit - each is a 2 1/4 inch gauge. All three are combined > into one gauge for the CS (VP ?) Arplast. > > If you are buying a 912S make sure you get the HD starter. I say this > because after 97 hours I need a new sprag clutch :-( > > Was this answer #1 ? > > Richard > Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) > Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) > Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) > SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk > Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross > PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > > > > > > -- Cheers, Chris


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    Time: 06:33:12 PM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Electronic Instruments
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> All, Is there anybody out there who has experience with the Stratomaster Electronic Artificial Horizon either with or without its Electronic Compass companion? If so, opinions sought please. For those not familiar with these instruments, have a look at http://www.lightflying.com.au Kingsley Hurst Mono Classic 281 in Oz.


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    Time: 08:25:35 PM PST US
    From: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    on dbmail-mx8.orcon.net.nz --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz> Remi, I have had an Airmaster AP308 on my Europa XS - Rotax 914 from new. Over 210 hrs of faultless operation. It is simple to use in operation and maintenance is at 100 hrs or with annual. Have flown a fair bit in rain with no effect at all on the blades. Prop is smooth but I cannot compare with others as this is all I have had. Had a prop strike early on and received excellent support from Airmaster for the repair. On the field I fly from there are two other planes with Airmaster AP332 props. A 912 powered Pulsar and 912 powered Storm. Both were conversions from fixed pitch with a dramatic improvement in performance. Yes a bit expensive but it works!! Rgds Sue and Bill > > Hello all, > > > I am planning to change my Warp Drive ground adjustable prop for an in flight adjustable or possibly a constant speed prop. > > > According to the Europa Club list of flying Europas, there are 43 of you flying with the Airmaster AP332 and 31 with the Arplast PV50. > > > I would like to know how happy you are with those props. > > > My criteria are: reliability/safety, performance, maintenance requirements. > > > Is the Arplast smoother than the Airmaster ? > > > What about erosion of the blade when flying the Arplast in rain? > > > Please mention your prop flight time. > > > Looking fwd receiving 74 answers ! > > > Remi Guerner > > > F-PGKL, XS monowheel s/n 395. Installing a 912S to replace the 914. > >




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