Europa-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/14/04


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:16 AM - Propellers (Richard Holder)
     2. 02:21 AM - Diesels for Europa (Tony Renshaw)
     3. 04:33 AM - Tri gear Brake Problems (Alan Burrows)
     4. 06:11 AM - Re: Tri gear Brake Problems (KARL HEINDL)
     5. 06:15 AM - Fw: Propellers (Fergus Kyle)
     6. 06:47 AM - Re: Tri gear Brake Problems (Alan Burrows)
     7. 06:58 AM - Re: Tri gear Brake Problems (R.C.Harrison)
     8. 07:20 AM - Re: Tri gear Brake Problems (Mark Burton)
     9. 07:52 AM - Re: Propellers (Richard Holder)
    10. 08:03 AM - Followup on fatal Crash N912EE (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
    11. 08:34 AM - Operation of 914 fuel pumps? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
    12. 08:53 AM - Re: Propellers (R.C.Harrison)
    13. 09:23 AM - FW: Help (Alan Burrows)
    14. 09:42 AM - Re: Tri gear Brake Problems (R.C.Harrison)
    15. 01:00 PM - Re: Tri gear Brake Problems (KARL HEINDL)
    16. 02:48 PM - COWL (Al Stills)
    17. 02:57 PM - Re: Fw: Propellers (Jim Brown)
    18. 03:11 PM - Re: Help (SteveD)
    19. 03:32 PM - Propellers NSI CAP 140 (Steve Crimm)
    20. 04:01 PM - Re: COWL ()
    21. 05:00 PM - El Roto's Europa Website, Address Change #4 (Steve & Eileen Genotte)
    22. 05:05 PM - Re: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment (Kingsley Hurst)
    23. 05:54 PM - Re: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment (Fergus Kyle)
    24. 06:15 PM - WHO was about to put on the top? (Fergus Kyle)
    25. 11:24 PM - Re: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment (Kingsley Hurst)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:16:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Propellers
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> Interesting variations in the stated maintenance needed for Airmaster. 100hrs, 50 hours, annual, 100 hours and annual ..... As I understand it (here goes with another variation) it needs to be maintained at 25, 50, 100, 200, 300 ... Hours The maintenance involves removing each blade from the hub, regreasing and replacement. In the UK it requires a PFA Inspector sign-off after this. Anyone with any other variations ? :-) Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)


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    Time: 02:21:27 AM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: Diesels for Europa
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Gidday Graham, Tell me, long lost friend, what is happening with your diesels????? Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney "Gods country". At 09:52 AM 9/11/2004, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> > >At 23:56 09/09/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >It is confirmed - a genuine sighting!!! > > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" > <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> > > > >GET A PROPER JOB PARKIN..! And do some work like the rest of us..! > > > >Alan Burrows > >Ps I did the same yesterday :-) > >Wish I had his job! Not a sharp enough pilot unfortunately. > >Graham > >


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    Time: 04:33:18 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: Tri gear Brake Problems
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Hi Guys Yesterday I was due to fly to Prestwick and as I taxied around to the runway, in 38kts of wind the aircraft locked the port wheel when I applied a good amount of pressure to the finger brakes, trying to turn a corner against the wind. Now this aint funny at a busy commercial airport in driving wind and rain..! The brake was locked on solid and the only way to free it was to remove the spats and slacken the bleed nipple to release enough pressure to allow the piston to be pushed back into the calliper. When I eventually made it back into the hanger I applied the brakes again with the same result. Each time I use any force on the lever it locks up the port brake. I discovered that if I rock the parking brake lever backwards and forwards several times it does free off the locked brake, so I guess the problem lies in there somewhere. I will know more when I strip it all down. But in the meantime if anyone has any suspicions of the levers feeling unusual or not returning properly BE CAREFUL the next stage may be a lock up as I experienced in the worst possible conditions. I suggest you give your levers a real hard pull just to make sure they don't lock on..! I will publish more when I have some diagnosis. Cheers for Now Alan G-CBWF


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    Time: 06:11:03 AM PST US
    From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: Tri gear Brake Problems
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com> Alan, Some of us had problems with the rubber seals in the master cylinder not returning to their null position due to excessive friction. I overcame this problem simply by re-enforcing the springs with an additional spring inside the existing one. Others have changed seals, brake fluid etc. By the way, Matco informed me that the wheels and brakes are the same models as used on Spaceship One. I wonder which master cylinder was used by Rutan. Also, what is used on the Liberty, which has finger brakes like most of us. Karl From: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Subject: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems -- Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Hi Guys Yesterday I was due to fly to Prestwick and as I taxied around to the runway, in 38kts of wind the aircraft locked the port wheel when I applied a good amount of pressure to the finger brakes, trying to turn a corner against the wind. Now this aint funny at a busy commercial airport in driving wind and rain..! The brake was locked on solid and the only way to free it was to remove the spats and slacken the bleed nipple to release enough pressure to allow the piston to be pushed back into the calliper. When I eventually made it back into the hanger I applied the brakes again with the same result. Each time I use any force on the lever it locks up the port brake. I discovered that if I rock the parking brake lever backwards and forwards several times it does free off the locked brake, so I guess the problem lies in there somewhere. I will know more when I strip it all down. But in the meantime if anyone has any suspicions of the levers feeling unusual or not returning properly BE CAREFUL the next stage may be a lock up as I experienced in the worst possible conditions. I suggest you give your levers a real hard pull just to make sure they don't lock on..! I will publish more when I have some diagnosis. Cheers for Now Alan G-CBWF


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    Time: 06:15:54 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: Propellers | --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> | | Interesting variations in the stated maintenance needed for Airmaster. | | 100hrs, 50 hours, annual, 100 hours and annual ..... | | As I understand it (here goes with another variation) it needs to be | maintained at | | 25, 50, 100, 200, 300 ... Hours | | The maintenance involves removing each blade from the hub, regreasing and | replacement. In the UK it requires a PFA Inspector sign-off after this. | | Anyone with any other variations ? :-) | | Richard | Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) | Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) | Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) | SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk | Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross | PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) Cheers, ...reading all this prop stuff with interest as am llooking at Airmaster, kremen, etc. Airmaster: Supposing I'm doing the 'annual' blade greasing - do I need replacement parts of any kind - oiltained rings etc? Kremen: same thing, I always discover I need a giggling pin for the laughing gear when the rig is all apart and the nearest pin is in Austin Texas where the hurricane is not helping the mails much............ Ferg A064


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    Time: 06:47:37 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: Tri gear Brake Problems
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Firstly I am no expert on the subject of brakes, but I don't understand why my brakes would free up when moving the parking brake lever backwards and forwards a few times, because to me it seems a different problem to yours. Incidentally I also had problems with the levers not returning fully, but just put up with that. Where did you get your extra springs from and are they anything special? Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KARL HEINDL Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com> Alan, Some of us had problems with the rubber seals in the master cylinder not returning to their null position due to excessive friction. I overcame this problem simply by re-enforcing the springs with an additional spring inside the existing one. Others have changed seals, brake fluid etc. By the way, Matco informed me that the wheels and brakes are the same models as used on Spaceship One. I wonder which master cylinder was used by Rutan. Also, what is used on the Liberty, which has finger brakes like most of us. Karl From: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Subject: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems -- Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Hi Guys Yesterday I was due to fly to Prestwick and as I taxied around to the runway, in 38kts of wind the aircraft locked the port wheel when I applied a good amount of pressure to the finger brakes, trying to turn a corner against the wind. Now this aint funny at a busy commercial airport in driving wind and rain..! The brake was locked on solid and the only way to free it was to remove the spats and slacken the bleed nipple to release enough pressure to allow the piston to be pushed back into the calliper. When I eventually made it back into the hanger I applied the brakes again with the same result. Each time I use any force on the lever it locks up the port brake. I discovered that if I rock the parking brake lever backwards and forwards several times it does free off the locked brake, so I guess the problem lies in there somewhere. I will know more when I strip it all down. But in the meantime if anyone has any suspicions of the levers feeling unusual or not returning properly BE CAREFUL the next stage may be a lock up as I experienced in the worst possible conditions. I suggest you give your levers a real hard pull just to make sure they don't lock on..! I will publish more when I have some diagnosis. Cheers for Now Alan G-CBWF == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 06:58:14 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Tri gear Brake Problems
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Alan If perchance the master cylinder isn't brim full then the actuating push rod can disengage from the pedal push and lay in the cylinder bottom. This stops the piston returning to relieve the pressure. Check out the master cylinder before you look elsewhere. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Subject: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> > > > Hi Guys > Yesterday I was due to fly to Prestwick and as I taxied around to the > runway, in 38kts of wind the aircraft locked the port wheel when I > applied a good amount of pressure to the finger brakes, trying to turn a > corner against the wind. Now this aint funny at a busy commercial > airport in driving wind and rain..! The brake was locked on solid and > the only way to free it was to remove the spats and slacken the bleed > nipple to release enough pressure to allow the piston to be pushed back > into the calliper. When I eventually made it back into the hanger I > applied the brakes again with the same result. Each time I use any force > on the lever it locks up the port brake. I discovered that if I rock the > parking brake lever backwards and forwards several times it does free > off the locked brake, so I guess the problem lies in there somewhere. I > will know more when I strip it all down. But in the meantime if anyone > has any suspicions of the levers feeling unusual or not returning > properly BE CAREFUL the next stage may be a lock up as I experienced in > the worst possible conditions. I suggest you give your levers a real > hard pull just to make sure they don't lock on..! > I will publish more when I have some diagnosis. > Cheers for Now > > Alan > G-CBWF > >


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    Time: 07:20:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tri gear Brake Problems
    From: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com> Alan, Bob, etc. > If perchance the master cylinder isn't brim full then the actuating push rod > can disengage from the pedal push and lay in the cylinder bottom. Yes, but if the master cylinder is brim full then the brakes can bind when the fluid expands when the fluid temperature goes up. It's easy to leave a little bit of slack when filling the master cylinder, just stop the lever going all the way back to the end stop before putting the plug back in. My brakes did tend to bind before I did that, now they don't and the push rod hasn't disengaged itself either. The above refers to tri-gear finger brakes. Regards, Mark


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    Time: 07:52:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> No parts required other than the proper grease (Mobil 28 or Shell 22) and a drop or six of Loctite. I forgot to say that you have to inspect the bearing surfaces and the bearings themselves which are on the end of each blade. RFWH > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: Propellers > > > > Cheers, > ...reading all this prop stuff with interest as am llooking at > Airmaster, kremen, etc. > Airmaster: Supposing I'm doing the 'annual' blade greasing - do I need > replacement parts of any kind - oiltained rings etc? > Kremen: same thing, > I always discover I need a giggling pin for the laughing gear when > the rig is all apart and the nearest pin is in Austin Texas where the > hurricane is not helping the mails much............ > Ferg > A064 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:03:49 AM PST US
    From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
    Subject: Followup on fatal Crash N912EE
    09/14/2004 11:03:28 AM --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Here is the preliminary NTSB report. Not many additional detail over initial news reports NTSB Identification: LAX04LA313 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation Accident occurred Thursday, September 02, 2004 in Marble Canyon, AZ Aircraft: Redgate Europa Classic, registration: N912EE Injuries: 2 Fatal. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. On September 2, 2004, at an undetermined time after approximately 1200 mountain standard time, a Redgate, Europa Classic, N912EE, impacted terrain about 1 mile south-southwest of the uncontrolled Marble Canyon Airport, Marble Canyon, Arizona. The airplane was destroyed. The private pilot and passenger were fatally injured. The pilot was the owner and builder of the experimental category airplane. The pilot was operating the airplane as a personal flight under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91. Undetermined meteorological conditions prevailed in the vicinity of the accident site. The Federal Aviation Administration continues to search for evidence of a flight plan and radio communications with the accident pilot. The flight may have originated from Long Beach, California, at an undetermined time after 0900. According to personnel from the Coconino County, Arizona, Sheriff's Office, at 1056 on September 4, a pilot who was flying reported observing the downed airplane. Thereafter, deputies proceeded to the accident location, and observed the fragmented wreckage on near level, open desert terrain. There was no evidence of fire. Initially, the sheriff's office received information that the airplane may have departed from Long Beach on September 3, between 0900 and 1200. The intended destination was the uncontrolled Bullfrog Basin Airport, in the Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, Utah. Subsequently, additional information received from acquaintances of the pilot indicated that the flight likely originated from Long Beach the previous day, on September 2. Coconino County Sheriff's personnel also reported to the National Transportation Safety Board investigator that they observed the airplane in an estimated 45-degree nose down attitude, and two of the three propeller blades were fragmented. The ground swath, over which they observed wreckage and a ground scar, covered an approximately 25-yard long path. It was oriented in a north-northwesterly direction toward the Marble Canyon Airport. They found neither occupant wearing a seat belt.


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    Time: 08:34:19 AM PST US
    From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: Operation of 914 fuel pumps?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> In practice, do you give both pumps equal use? Like perhaps switch wiring once a year so the Aux. pump gets its fair share of use? or do you replace the main pump once in a while? Thx. Sincerely Ron Parigoris A-265 Monowheel Just bout ready to bond in CPM


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    Time: 08:53:58 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Richard. Just out of interest the MT CS Propeller that I have calls for daily inspection as in preflight walk round. Then every 100 hours upto 1500 hours or 72 months( six years) after initial installation without any maintenance to moving parts except brushes and cleaning of slip rings other than "ding" repairs as necessary. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: Propellers > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > > Interesting variations in the stated maintenance needed for Airmaster. > > 100hrs, 50 hours, annual, 100 hours and annual ..... > > As I understand it (here goes with another variation) it needs to be > maintained at > > 25, 50, 100, 200, 300 ... Hours > > The maintenance involves removing each blade from the hub, regreasing and > replacement. In the UK it requires a PFA Inspector sign-off after this. > > Anyone with any other variations ? :-) > > Richard > Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) > Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) > Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) > SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk > Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross > PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) > >


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    Time: 09:23:33 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: FW: Help
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Before I start World war three this was sent to me by an AMERICAN friend of mine who thought it was quite funny. Its meant as a joke, so please take it that way all you guys who can relate to any part of it :-) Alan Last month, a worldwide survey was conducted by the UN about solutions to the food shortages in the rest of the world. The only question asked was: "Would you please give your honest opinion." The survey was a total failure... In Africa they didn't know what "food" meant. In Eastern Europe they didn't know what "honest" meant. In Western Europe they didn't know what "shortage" meant. In China they didn't know what "opinion" meant. In the Middle East they didn't know what "solution" meant. In South America they didn't know what "please" meant. And in the USA they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant.


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    Time: 09:42:47 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Tri gear Brake Problems
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> AND FOOT BRAKES..... (Mine have never locked up due to temperature expansion ....YET ! and I fill the cylinder then screw the plug in nearly tight allowing surplus to ooze out then tighten .) The Matco hand brake would allow equalisation of the pressures to release the "locked on brake syndrome" if activated a number of times I'd suggest. Regards Bob H G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Burton" <markb@ordern.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems > --> Europa-List message posted by: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com> > > > Alan, Bob, etc. > > > If perchance the master cylinder isn't brim full then the actuating push rod > > can disengage from the pedal push and lay in the cylinder bottom. > > Yes, but if the master cylinder is brim full then the brakes can bind > when the fluid expands when the fluid temperature goes up. It's easy > to leave a little bit of slack when filling the master cylinder, just > stop the lever going all the way back to the end stop before putting > the plug back in. My brakes did tend to bind before I did that, now > they don't and the push rod hasn't disengaged itself either. > > The above refers to tri-gear finger brakes. > > Regards, > > Mark


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    Time: 01:00:54 PM PST US
    From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: Tri gear Brake Problems
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com> Alan, I assumed that you had the dual master cylinder that comes with the fingerbrakes kit. If you have the original supplied cylinders then my solution does not apply. I used springs which wereleftovers from one of the kits. I have no idea what they were for (like lots of other little bits) and Am not sure of the part number, something like FL26. The ends had to be cut off and they should be shorter than the existing springs. They work fine but I would like a slightly more robust spring with a larger diameter. I have bought a couple in a hardware store recently and will try them out next time I need to dismantle the cylinders. I assume that you are in the UK. There is a big spring manufacturer in Bristol, can't remember the name. Also, B@Q may have a selection in their section with all the little drawers. Karl From: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems -- Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Firstly I am no expert on the subject of brakes, but I don't understand why my brakes would free up when moving the parking brake lever backwards and forwards a few times, because to me it seems a different problem to yours. Incidentally I also had problems with the levers not returning fully, but just put up with that. Where did you get your extra springs from and are they anything special? Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KARL HEINDL Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems -- Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" kheindl@msn.com Alan, Some of us had problems with the rubber seals in the master cylinder not returning to their null position due to excessive friction. I overcame this problem simply by re-enforcing the springs with an additional spring inside the existing one. Others have changed seals, brake fluid etc. By the way, Matco informed me that the wheels and brakes are the same models as used on Spaceship One. I wonder which master cylinder was used by Rutan. Also, what is used on the Liberty, which has finger brakes like most of us. Karl From: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Subject: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems -- Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com Hi Guys Yesterday I was due to fly to Prestwick and as I taxied around to the runway, in 38kts of wind the aircraft locked the port wheel when I applied a good amount of pressure to the finger brakes, trying to turn a corner against the wind. Now this aint funny at a busy commercial airport in driving wind and rain..! The brake was locked on solid and the only way to free it was to remove the spats and slacken the bleed nipple to release enough pressure to allow the piston to be pushed back into the calliper. When I eventually made it back into the hanger I applied the brakes again with the same result. Each time I use any force on the lever it locks up the port brake. I discovered that if I rock the parking brake lever backwards and forwards several times it does free off the locked brake, so I guess the problem lies in there somewhere. I will know more when I strip it all down. But in the meantime if anyone has any suspicions of the levers feeling unusual or not returning properly BE CAREFUL the next stage may be a lock up as I experienced in the worst possible conditions. I suggest you give your levers a real hard pull just to make sure they don't lock on..! I will publish more when I have some diagnosis. Cheers for Now Alan G-CBWF == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 02:48:08 PM PST US
    Subject: COWL
    From: "Al Stills" <astills@senecawholesale.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Al Stills" <astills@senecawholesale.com> I have access to a Jabiru cowl for the Europa XS. As I understand it, it's the same cowl except for the prop opening size and the air intakes. Does anyone have any experience with this. Al Stills A095


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    Time: 02:57:48 PM PST US
    From: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Propellers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com> My maintenance manual for the Airmaster 308 hub, stated to do inspections on the new hub at 25 hours, 50 hours, and then ,at each hundred hours thereafter. We found corrosion in some of the bearings at the 200 hour inspection. We replaced the bearings and started doing inspections at fifty hours. We live in Florida and the humidity was the cause of the corrosion. I started using white zinc oxide grease (as used in the marine industry) which appears at this point to have solved my problem. Jim Brown N398JB Fergus Kyle wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: Propellers > > > Cheers, > ...reading all this prop stuff with interest as am llooking at > Airmaster, kremen, etc. > Airmaster: Supposing I'm doing the 'annual' blade greasing - do I need > replacement parts of any kind - oiltained rings etc? > Kremen: same thing, > I always discover I need a giggling pin for the laughing gear when > the rig is all apart and the nearest pin is in Austin Texas where the > hurricane is not helping the mails much............ > Ferg > A064 >


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    Time: 03:11:57 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Help
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Ha! I've been to all those places.... They're around a little lake at Disney World. : ) Steved Do not archive ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://forum.okhuijsen.org/


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    Time: 03:32:22 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    Subject: Propellers NSI CAP 140
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> Does anyone have any experience with NSI's CAP 140 propeller? Steve Crimm N15JN A058


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    Time: 04:01:27 PM PST US
    From: <beecho@beecho.org>
    Subject: COWL
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org> Hi Al You ask: As I understand it, it's the same cowl except for the prop opening size and the air intakes. The same cowl as what? It is very different from the standard Europa cowl meant for a rotax engine. I have installed the Jabiru cowl over a J 3300 and might be able to answer any questions. Tom Friedland A079 N96V XS Mono -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Al Stills Subject: Europa-List: COWL --> Europa-List message posted by: "Al Stills" <astills@senecawholesale.com> I have access to a Jabiru cowl for the Europa XS. As I understand it, it's the same cowl except for the prop opening size and the air intakes. Does anyone have any experience with this. Al Stills A095 == == == ==


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    Time: 05:00:06 PM PST US
    From: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <genottes@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: El Roto's Europa Website, Address Change #4
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <genottes@wi.rr.com> Yah, here we are again. <sigh> Stupid ISPs. Now I'm on a commercial server - at least as long as my little firearms training buddies and I are in business. ;-) Go to www.protacglobal.com/europa There's nothing new (sorry) but I still see a question now and again that's covered on one of my pages, so it still has a modicum of use. I'm currently trying to bring it all up to spec, so forgive me the odd broken link, dead email addy, etc. Muchas gracias, Steve "El Roto" G.


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    Time: 05:05:32 PM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Gerry and Nigel, Thank you for your responses to my Instrument Panel retainment query. I was hoping someone had either developed or knew of a way to provide some shock mounting for the instruments but since the solid mounting must be working okay for lots of other Europaphiles, I will now go the same way. I have adopted the Europa Club Mod for mounting the panel proper so I guess I have a small amount of dampening already. Thanks again Kingsley


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    Time: 05:54:12 PM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> | | Gerry and Nigel, | | Thank you for your responses to my Instrument Panel retainment query. | | I was hoping someone had either developed or knew of a way to provide | some shock mounting for the instruments but since the solid mounting | must be working okay for lots of other Europaphiles, I will now go the | same way. I have adopted the Europa Club Mod for mounting the panel | proper so I guess I have a small amount of dampening already. | | Thanks again | | Kingsley KH Right, the Nigel Charles mod I used rubber tap washers which are easily changed and they damp the whole panel pretty well. Ferg


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    Time: 06:15:02 PM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: WHO was about to put on the top?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> Who was that in the last week? Ferg


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    Time: 11:24:51 PM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Ferg wrote: > Right, the Nigel Charles mod I used rubber tap washers which are easily changed and they damp the whole panel pretty well. Ferg Yes Ferg, I guess I was just trying to achieve a belt and braces result because the tap washers are quite firm and Nigel had told me some time ago they did not achieve very much vibration dampening. As it turns out, a mate of mine found some roofing screws the other day which have conical shaped rubber washers that are much softer than the hemispherical tap washers so I think I'll give them a go albeit the holes in them are slightly larger than 3/16" but not so big that they wont still work okay. I'll still have the tap washers to fall back on if need be. Cheers Kingsley




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