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1. 01:13 AM - Re: Propellers NSI CAP 140 (Pete Lawless)
2. 02:10 AM - Re: Tri gear Brake Problems (Alan Burrows)
3. 03:05 AM - Re: Propellers NSI CAP 140 (nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk)
4. 03:31 AM - Re: Propellers NSI CAP 140 (Mark Burton)
5. 05:08 AM - Re: Propellers NSI CAP 140 (Dennis Lowe)
6. 07:19 AM - Re: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment (Fergus Kyle)
7. 08:08 AM - Another wiring book (Fergus Kyle)
8. 09:00 AM - FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton (Jeremy Davey)
9. 09:49 AM - Re: FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton (NevEyre@aol.com)
10. 12:06 PM - Re: FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton (Duncan McFadyean)
11. 12:18 PM - Re: FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton (Jeremy Davey)
12. 12:52 PM - Our man (Mike Gamble)
13. 01:13 PM - Re: Our man (Fred R. Klein)
14. 01:37 PM - pip-pin accident! Need spare and medical help! (Raimo Toivio)
15. 04:18 PM - Re: pip-pin accident! Need spare and medical help! (R.C.Harrison)
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| Subject: | Propellers NSI CAP 140 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Hi Steve
Yes it is very good. I have one on my Classic on a 912UL (80bhp).
Cruise is 120kts to 125kts indicated at 4,200 rpm. I get the full 5,800
on take off so off the runway and climb performance are good too.
Around 900 fpm when solo and 600 to 700 with a passenger. Fuel burn
around 15 litres (3.96 small gallons) per hour. Considerably better
than my Twin Com!
The prop uses Warp Drive blades. There has been a problem getting
spares in the last few weeks. Warp Drive were 10 weeks behind with
delivery! I knocked a blade off on a concrete farm road in July and am
still waiting for a replacement. The good thing is that the hub is so
strongly built that there was no damage. My PFA (UK for EAA) inspector
tells me he has never seen a NSI hub damaged by a prop strike and he
probably has had more to do with NSI than most in the UK.
NSI do get a lot of bad press re customer service. They are a bit vague
regarding responses to email and telephone, but this seems to be when
there is nothing to tell. For example the Warp Drive delivery issue,
having said they were awaiting a delivery we could then get nothing more
from them and I eventually check with Warp Drive direct.
Hopefully we will have a serviceable aeroplane by the end of the month.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Crimm
Subject: Europa-List: Propellers NSI CAP 140
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm"
--> <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Does anyone have any experience with NSI's CAP 140 propeller?
Steve Crimm
N15JN
A058
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| Subject: | Tri gear Brake Problems |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Thanks Karl
I am "almost" in the U.K. as I'm in the Isle of Man, but we do have a
B&Q so I guess that must qualify us :-)
Alan
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KARL HEINDL
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Alan,
I assumed that you had the dual master cylinder that comes with the
fingerbrakes kit. If you have the original supplied cylinders then my
solution does not apply.
I used springs which wereleftovers from one of the kits. I have no idea
what they were for (like lots of other little bits) and Am not sure of
the part number, something like FL26. The ends had to be cut off and
they should be shorter than the existing springs. They work fine but I
would like a slightly more robust spring with a larger diameter. I have
bought a couple in a hardware store recently and will try them out next
time I need to dismantle the cylinders.
I assume that you are in the UK. There is a big spring manufacturer in
Bristol, can't remember the name. Also, B@Q may have a selection in
their section with all the little drawers.
Karl
From: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems
-- Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
alan@kestrel-insurance.com
Firstly I am no expert on the subject of brakes, but I don't understand
why my brakes would free up when moving the parking brake lever
backwards and forwards a few times, because to me it seems a different
problem to yours. Incidentally I also had problems with the levers not
returning fully, but just put up with that. Where did you get your extra
springs from and are they anything special?
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KARL HEINDL
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems
-- Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" kheindl@msn.com
Alan,
Some of us had problems with the rubber seals in the master cylinder not
returning to their null position due to excessive friction. I overcame
this problem simply by re-enforcing the springs with an additional
spring inside the existing one. Others have changed seals, brake fluid
etc.
By the way, Matco informed me that the wheels and brakes are the same
models as used on Spaceship One. I wonder which master cylinder was used
by Rutan. Also, what is used on the Liberty, which has finger brakes
like most of us.
Karl
From: "Alan Burrows" alan@kestrel-insurance.com
Subject: Europa-List: Tri gear Brake Problems
-- Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
alan@kestrel-insurance.com
Hi Guys
Yesterday I was due to fly to Prestwick and as I taxied around to the
runway, in 38kts of wind the aircraft locked the port wheel when I
applied a good amount of pressure to the finger brakes, trying to turn a
corner against the wind. Now this aint funny at a busy commercial
airport in driving wind and rain..! The brake was locked on solid and
the only way to free it was to remove the spats and slacken the bleed
nipple to release enough pressure to allow the piston to be pushed back
into the calliper. When I eventually made it back into the hanger I
applied the brakes again with the same result. Each time I use any force
on the lever it locks up the port brake. I discovered that if I rock the
parking brake lever backwards and forwards several times it does free
off the locked brake, so I guess the problem lies in there somewhere. I
will know more when I strip it all down. But in the meantime if anyone
has any suspicions of the levers feeling unusual or not returning
properly BE CAREFUL the next stage may be a lock up as I experienced in
the worst possible conditions. I suggest you give your levers a real
hard pull just to make sure they don't lock on..!
I will publish more when I have some diagnosis.
Cheers for Now
Alan
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| Subject: | Propellers NSI CAP 140 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
I used one for 25 hrs when it was grounded due to the 912S/NSI combination
proving unsuitable without modification. One of our UK owners had a crack
at a blade root after 250hrs and the extra torsional load of the higher
compression 912S found a weakness in a sharp corner in the blade root (not
ideal design). Since then there has been another failure (on a different
a/c type). Whether this was a modified prop or not is not certain. If it
wasn't modified then why hasn't the owner been notified by NSI to get it
modified? If it was modified then it begs the question whether the NSI is
suitable for the 912S at all.
The prop comes without low pitch stop adjustment. This is achieved by placing
a spacer in the rear of the hub. I had several spacers made up of different
thicknesses so that the correct size could be determined. The only problem
was that the prop had to be taken apart for each spacer to be inserted.
This cannot be done on the a/c. As you can imagine I got quite good at this
but it still took at least 2 hours each time. All this just to change the
stop setting. It is extremely easy to damage parts when re-assembling the
prop hub. However once set you should not have to do it again.
As far as I know, unlike the other manufacturers, NSI have yet to develop
a constant speed controller which eases pilot workload and improves performance.
I have first hand knowledge of their poor customer relations and the UK
representative (who happens to be my inspector) has given up with them due
to their poor communications and slow deliveries.
Nigel Charles
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Propellers NSI CAP 140
>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:31:55 -0400
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
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>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>
>Does anyone have any experience with NSI's CAP 140 propeller?
>
>Steve Crimm
>N15JN
>A058
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propellers NSI CAP 140 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com>
Apologies for yet another commercial message but it is related to a
previous post.
> As far as I know, unlike the other manufacturers, NSI have yet to
> develop a constant speed controller which eases pilot workload and
> improves performance.
Smart Avionics (www.smartavionics.com) produces a constant speed
controller (the CSC-1/G) that is suitable for electric VP props like
the NSI or the Rospeller.
Given the commercial nature of this message, I may as well mention
that Smart Avionics has recently started producing a low-cost dynamic
propeller balancer kit aimed at the homebuilt/experimental market.
Ok, no more commercials from me (at least until the next product
arrives!)
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Propellers NSI CAP 140 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dennis Lowe <DennisLowe@bluewatertechnology.co.uk>
I have no commercial interest in Smart Avionics but, as a customer, I
have to
say that their units are beautifully made and well presented and the
backup service is
second to none.
Dennis Lowe G-NHRJ
On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, at 11:31 am, Mark Burton wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com>
>
>
> Apologies for yet another commercial message but it is related to a
> previous post.
>
>> As far as I know, unlike the other manufacturers, NSI have yet to
>> develop a constant speed controller which eases pilot workload and
>> improves performance.
>
> Smart Avionics (www.smartavionics.com) produces a constant speed
> controller (the CSC-1/G) that is suitable for electric VP props like
> the NSI or the Rospeller.
>
> Given the commercial nature of this message, I may as well mention
> that Smart Avionics has recently started producing a low-cost dynamic
> propeller balancer kit aimed at the homebuilt/experimental market.
>
> Ok, no more commercials from me (at least until the next product
> arrives!)
>
> Mark
>
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument and Avionics Sub Panel Retainment |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Kingsley,
Perhaps I was hasty in recommending the tap washers, but put an
offset shaker onto the panel and felt the diffrence in the firewall and it
was imperceptible. However, it's possible that the substance used may harden
with continuous vibration, so apologies for questionable advice.
OTOH, you may want to keep spares in case that's true for your
solution!
Cheers
Ferg
PS Let me know how it works out, me ditto.
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| Subject: | Another wiring book |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Terry
Watson
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Aircraft Wiring for Smart People
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Bob, others:
Greg Richter at Blue Mountain Avionics has just posted a short (24 page?)
booklet he has written for his customers. I haven't read it yet, but I like
Greg's attitude and I expect it to be very worthwhile. You might like to
have a look.
http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/download.php
Terry RV-8A, Blue Mountain EFIS/one wiring still Seattle
Bob,
Richter seems to have wrapped up the topic very neatly for builders,
but I note one or two items at which you may hesitate. I [and wha's like me]
would be interested to hear your assessment. I appreciate you may not want
to plaster same all over the net, but still..............
Cheers,
Ferg
Europa A064
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| Subject: | FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Anyone fancy a trip to Manchester this Sunday?
Cheers,
Jeremy
_____
From: Firas Bakir [mailto:firas.bakir@virgin.net]
Subject: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton
Hi,
The PFA North Western Strut are holding the annual strut Fly-in at
Manchester Barton Aerodrome (UK) this Sunday 19th September 2004. Europas
from every where are most welcome. We had good attendance by few Europas
last year, but we need more this year. Free Landing and Free Burgers &
Refreshments for crew members, plus the usual club-house facilities. Barton
have a nice collections of aircrafts and you will have the chance to visit
the nearby Trafford Centre (5 minutes by taxi). All types of aircrafts and
in particular PFA & Vintage type are welcome.
Please check the PFA NW Strut's for more information
<http://www.pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk/> www.pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk .
Alternatively if any one is interested in a copy of the poster in PDF format
or more information you can email me on
<mailto:firas@pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk> firas@pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk
Many thanks and hope to see as many of you as possible at the Fly in.
Regards,
Firas Bakir
PFA NW Strut
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| Subject: | Re: FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton |
--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
Hi Jeremy Who,
If the weather is not too bad, I will be there, competing in a F2B control
line model stunt event.[next to the Police Helicopter]
I'll have that pint you promised me !
Cheers,
Nev.
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| Subject: | Re: FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Or Hunsdon (nr Wickenby) or Sheffield ("free" fly-in, if you uplift 50+
litres) no PPR.
Duncan McF.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: Europa-List: FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester
Barton
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> Anyone fancy a trip to Manchester this Sunday?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Firas Bakir [mailto:firas.bakir@virgin.net]
> To: webmaster@europaclub.org.uk
> Subject: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> The PFA North Western Strut are holding the annual strut Fly-in at
> Manchester Barton Aerodrome (UK) this Sunday 19th September 2004. Europas
> from every where are most welcome. We had good attendance by few Europas
> last year, but we need more this year. Free Landing and Free Burgers &
> Refreshments for crew members, plus the usual club-house facilities.
Barton
> have a nice collections of aircrafts and you will have the chance to visit
> the nearby Trafford Centre (5 minutes by taxi). All types of aircrafts
and
> in particular PFA & Vintage type are welcome.
>
>
> Please check the PFA NW Strut's for more information
> <http://www.pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk/> www.pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk .
> Alternatively if any one is interested in a copy of the poster in PDF
format
> or more information you can email me on
> <mailto:firas@pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk> firas@pfanwstrut.flyer.co.uk
>
>
> Many thanks and hope to see as many of you as possible at the Fly in.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Firas Bakir
>
> PFA NW Strut
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester Barton |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Sorry, Why, but you won't on this occasion. I was just the messenger and
won't be there. I'll be packing my bags for a trip to the land of the free
instead.
Don't worry, I don't mind if you, as an honorary Yorkshireman, add interest
to the amount owed. Keep the rate reasonable, I don't want to end up having
to lug a full keg along :-)
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NevEyre@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: PFA NW Strut Fly-in this Sunday - Manchester
Barton
--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
Hi Jeremy Who,
If the weather is not too bad, I will be there, competing in a F2B control
line model stunt event.[next to the Police Helicopter]
I'll have that pint you promised me !
Cheers,
Nev.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Nev, I am still trying to understand how the new organisation can exist
without your presence and support.
To us the builders you are the man.
You and Andy are the Europa Factory.
I do hope that, when things start moving, your advice and help will be
available once again. Either way best wishes for the future.
Regards
Mike Gamble
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
on 9/15/04 11:51 AM, Mike Gamble at mp.gamble@virgin.net wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
>
> Nev, I am still trying to understand how the new organisation can exist
> without your presence and support.
> To us the builders you are the man.
> You and Andy are the Europa Factory.
> I do hope that, when things start moving, your advice and help will be
> available once again. Either way best wishes for the future.
>
> Regards
> Mike Gamble
>
>
HEAR HEAR!
Fred
A104
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| Subject: | pip-pin accident! Need spare and medical help! |
0.00 MANY_EXCLAMATIONS Subject has many exclamations
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Hi All!
My spar pip pin was broken today.
L-shaped handle went in many pieces.
It was one kind of battle when pulling it out,
without any handle to pull.
This is because my sparbushes are extremely
tight and so far with full power I have managed
to rigg/derigg about 25 times.
I have always thought my spar pin is too tight
but now I really know it. And also I know
the reason for that: spar bushes are not
exactly parallel (in my case). Have to do
something for hassle.
Question:
What is the source of those pins?
I would like to buy a pin with T-handle if possible.
Is there somewhere a man with an extra pin which is sellable for me?
Any tips are much appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Raimo M W Toivio, w/o spar pip pin and left knuckles w/o skin.
OH-XRT #417
OH-CVK
OH-BLL
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
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| Subject: | Re: pip-pin accident! Need spare and medical help! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Raimo.
I too broke a handle but managed to do a repair with redux, however I now
use TWO x 1/2" Avdel Pins. Both were bought from Europa prior to the demise.
They are a standard Aircraft pin and you should be able to get same from any
aircraft part supplier. Surprised there's not one on the Beech C45 ?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Subject: Europa-List: pip-pin accident! Need spare and medical help!
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>
> Hi All!
>
> My spar pip pin was broken today.
> L-shaped handle went in many pieces.
> It was one kind of battle when pulling it out,
> without any handle to pull.
> This is because my sparbushes are extremely
> tight and so far with full power I have managed
> to rigg/derigg about 25 times.
> I have always thought my spar pin is too tight
> but now I really know it. And also I know
> the reason for that: spar bushes are not
> exactly parallel (in my case). Have to do
> something for hassle.
>
> Question:
>
> What is the source of those pins?
> I would like to buy a pin with T-handle if possible.
> Is there somewhere a man with an extra pin which is sellable for me?
>
> Any tips are much appreciated.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Raimo M W Toivio, w/o spar pip pin and left knuckles w/o skin.
>
> OH-XRT #417
> OH-CVK
> OH-BLL
>
> 37500 Lempaala
> Finland
> tel + 358 3 3753 777
> fax + 358 3 3753 100
> gsm + 358 40 590 1450
>
> raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
> www.rwm.fi
>
>
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