Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 09/22/04


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 12:20 AM - Re: Current Europa 2004 Contact info (DaveBuzz@aol.com)
     2. 06:13 AM - OT: Europa glider pilots (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
     3. 07:32 AM - Re: OT: Europa glider pilots (Fred R. Klein)
     4. 08:32 AM - Re: OT: Europa glider pilots (Augustene Brown)
     5. 09:11 AM - Re: Europa company website (SteveD)
     6. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Europa company website (Jeremy Davey)
     7. 10:44 AM - PFA income structure (Jeremy Davey)
     8. 10:46 AM - Contacting Europa 04 (Tony Bale)
     9. 11:26 AM - Re: Contacting Europa 04 (Rocketman)
    10. 01:45 PM - Re: Contacting Europa 04 (DaveBuzz@aol.com)
    11. 01:45 PM - Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 (karelvranken)
    12. 01:51 PM - Re: OT: Europa glider pilots (karelvranken)
    13. 04:00 PM - Oshkosh 2004 (Europa Aircraft)
    14. 04:31 PM - Re: Contacting Europa 04 (topglock@cox.net)
    15. 04:42 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2004 ()
    16. 05:45 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2004 ()
    17. 06:47 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2004 (Craig Ellison)
    18. 09:11 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2004 (Steve & Eileen Genotte)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:20:35 AM PST US
    From: DaveBuzz@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Current Europa 2004 Contact info
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com I spoke to John Wheeler at the factory yesterday afternoon - They know the site is down (web and email from late on monday afternoon) and were arranging for it to be re-instated, or re-located asap. Have just tried now and the web site is still down. Not sure exactly where it was hosted - UK or US, but John Hurst kept most of it current. The original Factory phone and fax number still work and I anticipate an announcement from EF2004 soon on future plans. chus, dave >--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Legge dlegge" <dlegge@socal.rr.com> > >Does anybody have current contact info for the new Europa? > >The Web site is gone and E-mail to europa-aircraft.com bounces. > >Thanks > >David Legge >A287


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    Time: 06:13:59 AM PST US
    From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
    Subject: OT: Europa glider pilots
    --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com In a message dated 9/22/2004 2:58:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, europa-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > Just wondered what proportion of Europa builders/flyers are really > glider pilots at heart?? > > Hi Paul, > > I guess you could call me a glider pilot at heart. I've avidly flown hang > gliders for 25 years and started flying sailplanes 10 years ago. Now, my > brother and I own a grass strip here in the Sequatchie Valley of East Tennessee and > I operate a sailplane tow operation out of it. I've logged a little over 100 > hours so far this year in sailplanes and about 30 hours towing with our > Pawnee. Do not archive > > Regards, > > John Lawton > Dunlap, TN > A-245


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    Time: 07:32:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: OT: Europa glider pilots
    From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> on 9/22/04 5:13 AM, TELEDYNMCS@aol.com at TELEDYNMCS@aol.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com > > In a message dated 9/22/2004 2:58:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > europa-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > >> Just wondered what proportion of Europa builders/flyers are really >> glider pilots at heart?? >> Hi Paul, I guess you could call me a glider pilot at heart. I've flown hang gliders off and on for 30 years, though I was one who spent time in the wilderness by hanging a Mac 101 on a stretched wing Easy Riser back in the late '70's before getting my PP along w/ a Stinson 108. In the '80's I designed and built 1 43' wing span tailless biplane from Riser parts and have been flying it solely as a glider, most recently at Chelan Butte, WA and Lakeview, OR. Just for the heck of it, I'll attempt to post a couple of pics of it on the miscellaneous Europa photo album site unless doing so would be seen as polluting the pristine world of Europaphiles. > Do not archive >> >> Regards, >> Fred Klein Eastsound, WA A194


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    Time: 08:32:41 AM PST US
    From: Augustene Brown <augustene@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: Europa glider pilots
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Augustene Brown <augustene@cfl.rr.com> I am a passionate glider passenger. Andy Draper treated me to my first glider ride at SnF April 2001 - it was the most awesome experience. My heart still pounds and my knees still get weak when I think about it. I would love to have the glider wings, however, I'm still trying to convince Jim - so far it hasn't worked :-\ Augustene N398JB TELEDYNMCS@aol.com wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com > >In a message dated 9/22/2004 2:58:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >europa-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > > >>Just wondered what proportion of Europa builders/flyers are really >>glider pilots at heart?? >> >>Hi Paul, >> >>I guess you could call me a glider pilot at heart. I've avidly flown hang >>gliders for 25 years and started flying sailplanes 10 years ago. Now, my >>brother and I own a grass strip here in the Sequatchie Valley of East Tennessee and >>I operate a sailplane tow operation out of it. I've logged a little over 100 >>hours so far this year in sailplanes and about 30 hours towing with our >>Pawnee. >> >> > >Do not archive > > >>Regards, >> >>John Lawton >>Dunlap, TN >>A-245 >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 09:11:16 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Europa company website
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    2.60 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty 0.04 LOTS_OF_STUFF BODY: Thousands or millions of pictures, movies, etc. --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Wow, that was fun. The link that John found was to the old Europa site. It's like a web time capsule. Instead of deleting the old site they made the home page a redirect to the new Europa site. All the back pages are still there. The newest entry I could find was Nov 1997. Ahhh the good old days. As far as the current web site being down, I think that is a good sign. The site being up gave the impression of "business as usual", which is not the case. When the site comes back it should have up to date, pertinent information. If someone is in contact with Europa 04, I would be happy to serve their PDF update and mod files from the EuropaOwnersForum, until they come back online. I'm pretty sure I have them all. Let me know, and I could have them on the forum in an hour or two. Some stats on the EuropaForum: We are closing in on 4000 builders photos, making it the single largest collection of builders photos / logs of any homebuilt aircraft. The Forum is also receiving 200 hits per day. The Matronics auto posting and threading forum is working well on custom modified beta software, giving features that no other forum has. I'd like to thank the Europa Club for helping shape the feature list of the Forum. Without the flurry of emails, some heated, some humorous, back and forth in the days before the forum went online, I would not have pushed the feature list to include what we have today. Chat later, Steved ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://forum.okhuijsen.org/


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    Time: 10:38:48 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: RE: Europa company website
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Steve, I just wanted to say congrats on the success of the EuropaForum site - you've worked damned hard on it and the result reflects that. I use both Web and email access to our community interchangeably now, and the photos gallery is awesome. I'm heading towards a temporary 'stop build' on G-EZZA in the not-too-distant future while Liza and I move to and set up our future home - at which point I'm planning to add my plane to the build logs on there :-) Cheers, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteveD Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa company website --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Wow, that was fun. The link that John found was to the old Europa site. It's like a web time capsule. Instead of deleting the old site they made the home page a redirect to the new Europa site. All the back pages are still there. The newest entry I could find was Nov 1997. Ahhh the good old days. As far as the current web site being down, I think that is a good sign. The site being up gave the impression of "business as usual", which is not the case. When the site comes back it should have up to date, pertinent information. If someone is in contact with Europa 04, I would be happy to serve their PDF update and mod files from the EuropaOwnersForum, until they come back online. I'm pretty sure I have them all. Let me know, and I could have them on the forum in an hour or two. Some stats on the EuropaForum: We are closing in on 4000 builders photos, making it the single largest collection of builders photos / logs of any homebuilt aircraft. The Forum is also receiving 200 hits per day. The Matronics auto posting and threading forum is working well on custom modified beta software, giving features that no other forum has. I'd like to thank the Europa Club for helping shape the feature list of the Forum. Without the flurry of emails, some heated, some humorous, back and forth in the days before the forum went online, I would not have pushed the feature list to include what we have today. Chat later, Steved ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://forum.okhuijsen.org/


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    Time: 10:44:15 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: PFA income structure
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Guys, (Sorry, another one for the UK folks, but it is an important one. Thanks to the overseas folks for bearing with me on this!) The EC of the PFA have formed a sub-committee to do a bottom-up review of the charging structure of the Association, and yours truly is on the sub-committee. This will look at all charges, including subscriptions as well as Engineering charges. It is important that members are as widely consulted as possible =96 so if you=92ve got thoughts on this topic, please let me know privately. Thanks and regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms


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    Time: 10:46:28 AM PST US
    From: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
    Subject: Contacting Europa 04
    1.04 ACCEPT_CREDIT_CARDS BODY: Accepting credit cards --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net> Folks, We needed some parts for our wing wobbling problems so rang the factory. The old number works fine and we got through to the parts guy. Bear in mind though they can not accept credit cards, and await receipt of your cheque prior to despatch of goods. They've got our cheque, so fingers crossed we get the bits tomorrow, we were promised goods would be despatched as soon as cheque received. Tony.


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    Time: 11:26:43 AM PST US
    From: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Contacting Europa 04
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net> Tony Bale wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net> > >Folks, > We needed some parts for our wing wobbling problems so rang the factory. The old number works fine and we got through to the parts guy. >Bear in mind though they can not accept credit cards, and await receipt of your cheque prior to despatch of goods. They've got our cheque, so fingers crossed we get the bits tomorrow, we were promised goods would be despatched as soon as cheque received. > >Tony. > > > > Good news, indeed, Tony. Would you mind sharing the contact numbers, for those of us, across the pond, who don't have them? Thanks! -- Jeff A055


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    Time: 01:45:31 PM PST US
    From: DaveBuzz@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Contacting Europa 04
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com Jeff, The numbers are the original Europa ones - check the original EF2004 press release, now on various sites, including the Club site. snip <<For further information please contact: John Wheeler Tel: 01751 431773, Fax 01751 431706 or email: john@europa-aircraft.com>> unsnip Obviously appropriate prefix for dialling UK from your location. chus, dave >--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net> > >Tony Bale wrote: > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net> >> >>Folks, >> We needed some parts for our wing wobbling problems so rang the factory. The old number works fine and we got through to the parts guy. >>Bear in mind though they can not accept credit cards, and await receipt of your cheque prior to despatch of goods. They've got our cheque, so fingers crossed we get the bits tomorrow, we were promised goods would be despatched as soon as cheque received. >> >>Tony. >> >> >> >> > >Good news, indeed, Tony. Would you mind sharing the contact numbers, >for those of us, across the pond, who don't have them? Thanks! > >-- >Jeff A055 > >


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    Time: 01:45:56 PM PST US
    From: "karelvranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany
    24.-26.09.04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "karelvranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com> Bruno, Dirk Oyen and me will make the trip to Stadlohn on Sunday when the weather will be good enough for unexperimented Europa pilots with the XS Monowheel OO-145 # 382. Karel Vranken # 447 F-PKRL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net> Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany 24.-26.09.04 > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net> > > Hi All, > until Fri or Sat, Gerry Holland and I are hoping to make the > Stadtlohn-Vreden fly-in, either going out midday Fri or early Sat., > returning Sun. If you've deleted the original posting, its attached. > On 13 Sep 2004, at 10:21, Jeremy Davey wrote: > > > > _____ > > > > From: UVTReith@aol.com [mailto:UVTReith@aol.com] > > To: webmaster@europaclub.org.uk > > Subject: Fly-In Airborne 2004 at Stadtlohn-Vreden / Germany > > 24.-26.09.04 > > > > > > Dear Europa Pilots, > > > > > > Every two years will be the exhibition Airborne at Stadtlohn-Vreden, > > former > > known as Take-Off. > > > > > > Two years ago we have had an exhibition stand there and the two company > > demonstrators > > > > (with G-KITZ/Keith Wilson and G-GBXS/Mark Waite). > > > > > > The KITZ was beside our exhibition stand and the GBXS was in the > > flight-line > > for demoflies. > > > > It was a great exhibition. > > > > > > This time, due to the special situation, we will go again, but > > together with > > the OUV (under the umbrella of OUV), but still we will have info packs > > with > > us. > > > > > > It would be great, when so many pilots as possible could make it for a > > fly-in. > > > > Stadtlohn-Vreden is only just behind the dutch border and easy to > > reach. > > > > It's only worth to come, as also a lot of other exhibitors will be > > there and > > airshows / demoflies are going on the hole days. > > > > More info you can get from: www.flugplatz-stadtlohn.de > > > > > > Would like to welcome you, > > > > I remain with best regards > > > > > > Bruno Reith / kit 379 Monowheel XS with Brabus engine, ready > > springtime 05 > > > > Europa Aircraft Distributor Germany (www.europa-aircraft.de) > > > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > > > Paddy Clarke > > Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM > >


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    Time: 01:51:12 PM PST US
    From: "karelvranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: Europa glider pilots
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "karelvranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com> Hi Paul, Glider pilot since 1959 I choose for the XS Monowheel because I still own my Pik 20E for my glider activities. Karel Vranken #447 F-PKRL ----- Original Message ----- From: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Europa-List: OT: Europa glider pilots > --> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> > > Paul, > Well you can count me as a "glider pilot", both hang gliders and > sailplanes. The quiet side of flying ;) > Ralph > Motorglider xs > Reno, NV > > > percyville wrote: > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "percyville" <percyville@percyville.plus.com> > > > >Just wondered what proportion of Europa builders/flyers are really > >glider pilots at heart?? > > > >Cheers > > > >Paul ("the bloody glider pilot!!") > > > >Jastreb/VTC Standard Cirrus G81 - HNM > >XS Monowheel kit 558 > > > > > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: ACJARVIS1@aol.com > >> > >>Being at heart a glider pilot, when I started on this homebuild lark I > >> > >> > >had > > > > > >>naively thought one's problems were just about over when the airframe > >> > >> > >was > > > > > >>built . I imagined you just bolt in the engine, probably a Rotax, > >> > >> > >connect >the fuel > > > > > >>and some wires, and the rest just happened. I now have a sneaking > >> > >> > >feeling > > > > > >>it's not that simple.... > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:00:10 PM PST US
    From: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net> Hi All! Betty Shaw (Cliff's wife) was kind enough to provide me with a list of Europa builders who flew in, or drove in to Oshkhosh this year. The following flew there Europas in: Marvin Farley #A051 Blue Grass, TX Cliff & Betty Shaw #A229 Edmonds, WA <-- Sporting a new tri-gear undercarrage John Wigney #A099 Mooresville, NC Erick & Misty Trombley Las Vegas, NV Jim Katra Lewiston, MD Dave Anderson A227 Gardnerville, NV <--flew his XS motorglider in for the second year F. Dean Truax A172 Big Cove Tannery, PA Karl Heindl UK392 Alexandria, ON Paul McAllister A363 Waukesha, WI <-- Hardly dry from the paint shop! The following builders & wannabies drove in: Dave Conrad Jerry Hope Jack V. Heesweph <---From the Netherlands Nico Groot <---From the Netherlands Myron Haluschak R & J Walker <---From Australia John Eckel Jim Butcher Ira Rampil Don Heath Dave Watts <---From The UK Steve Genotte Chuck Rhoads Mike Marker Mike Marshall Scott Dingman Jim Hull Dave Schroeder Gary Roberts Wayne Oehler Ron Kindechi <---A wannabe Tom Paul Don Ingram Chris Staines Fergus Flynn <---- From Ireland Michael Grass Jeff Williams Arlen Raasch Nihl Storey Andy Draper & Myself were also there. It was great to see so many builders at Oshkosh this year. Can't wait until next year!! Happy Building & Flying! John Hurst


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    Time: 04:31:22 PM PST US
    From: topglock@cox.net
    Subject: Re: Contacting Europa 04
    --> Europa-List message posted by: topglock@cox.net Thanks, Dave On 22 Sep 04, at 16:44, DaveBuzz@aol.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com > > Jeff, > The numbers are the original Europa ones - check the original EF2004 press release, now on > various sites, including the Club site. > > snip > <<For further information please contact: John Wheeler Tel: 01751 431773, Fax 01751 431706 or > email: john@europa-aircraft.com>> unsnip > > Obviously appropriate prefix for dialling UK from your location. > > chus, > dave > > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Rocketman <topglock@cox.net> > > > >Tony Bale wrote: > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net> > >> > >>Folks, > >> We needed some parts for our wing wobbling problems so rang the factory. The old number > >> works fine and we got through to the parts guy. > >>Bear in mind though they can not accept credit cards, and await receipt of your cheque prior > >>to despatch of goods. They've got our cheque, so fingers crossed we get the bits tomorrow, we > >>were promised goods would be despatched as soon as cheque received. > >> > >>Tony. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >Good news, indeed, Tony. Would you mind sharing the contact numbers, > >for those of us, across the pond, who don't have them? Thanks! > > > >-- > >Jeff A055 > > > > > > > > > > -- Jeff - A055 http://www.N55XS.com Wings fitted. Doors set. Looking for nose gear parts...


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    Time: 04:42:18 PM PST US
    From: <beecho@beecho.org>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org> Hi John!!! You are back on the job, I HOPE! If so, great news. What is the trailer situation? If your old one is still available, I will take it although I would probably prefer a new one. Thanks and WELCOME! Tom Friedland -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa Aircraft Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh 2004 --> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net> Hi All! Betty Shaw (Cliff's wife) was kind enough to provide me with a list of Europa builders who flew in, or drove in to Oshkhosh this year. The following flew there Europas in: Marvin Farley #A051 Blue Grass, TX Cliff & Betty Shaw #A229 Edmonds, WA <-- Sporting a new tri-gear undercarrage John Wigney #A099 Mooresville, NC Erick & Misty Trombley Las Vegas, NV Jim Katra Lewiston, MD Dave Anderson A227 Gardnerville, NV <--flew his XS motorglider in for the second year F. Dean Truax A172 Big Cove Tannery, PA Karl Heindl UK392 Alexandria, ON Paul McAllister A363 Waukesha, WI <-- Hardly dry from the paint shop! The following builders & wannabies drove in: Dave Conrad Jerry Hope Jack V. Heesweph <---From the Netherlands Nico Groot <---From the Netherlands Myron Haluschak R & J Walker <---From Australia John Eckel Jim Butcher Ira Rampil Don Heath Dave Watts <---From The UK Steve Genotte Chuck Rhoads Mike Marker Mike Marshall Scott Dingman Jim Hull Dave Schroeder Gary Roberts Wayne Oehler Ron Kindechi <---A wannabe Tom Paul Don Ingram Chris Staines Fergus Flynn <---- From Ireland Michael Grass Jeff Williams Arlen Raasch Nihl Storey Andy Draper & Myself were also there. It was great to see so many builders at Oshkosh this year. Can't wait until next year!! Happy Building & Flying! John Hurst == == == ==


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    Time: 05:45:59 PM PST US
    From: <beecho@beecho.org>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org> Addendum: Wow! OSH: 9 europas and an additional 31 europaphiles! Even another Fergus. (They are coming out of our ears! As Mark Twain said (paraphrased): Rumors of Europa's death, are greatly exaggerated! Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa Aircraft Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh 2004 --> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net> Hi All! Betty Shaw (Cliff's wife) was kind enough to provide me with a list of Europa builders who flew in, or drove in to Oshkhosh this year. The following flew there Europas in: Marvin Farley #A051 Blue Grass, TX Cliff & Betty Shaw #A229 Edmonds, WA <-- Sporting a new tri-gear undercarrage John Wigney #A099 Mooresville, NC Erick & Misty Trombley Las Vegas, NV Jim Katra Lewiston, MD Dave Anderson A227 Gardnerville, NV <--flew his XS motorglider in for the second year F. Dean Truax A172 Big Cove Tannery, PA Karl Heindl UK392 Alexandria, ON Paul McAllister A363 Waukesha, WI <-- Hardly dry from the paint shop! The following builders & wannabies drove in: Dave Conrad Jerry Hope Jack V. Heesweph <---From the Netherlands Nico Groot <---From the Netherlands Myron Haluschak R & J Walker <---From Australia John Eckel Jim Butcher Ira Rampil Don Heath Dave Watts <---From The UK Steve Genotte Chuck Rhoads Mike Marker Mike Marshall Scott Dingman Jim Hull Dave Schroeder Gary Roberts Wayne Oehler Ron Kindechi <---A wannabe Tom Paul Don Ingram Chris Staines Fergus Flynn <---- From Ireland Michael Grass Jeff Williams Arlen Raasch Nihl Storey Andy Draper & Myself were also there. It was great to see so many builders at Oshkosh this year. Can't wait until next year!! Happy Building & Flying! John Hurst == == == ==


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    Time: 06:47:50 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> All, I don't know if anyone has mentioned before this but I believe that a photo of Cliff's Europa tri-gear made it into Flying's Oshkosh round-up. Page 56, top left background. Congratulations Cliff! Please correct me if I'm wrong. Hoping to be there soon in a flying Europa, Craig Ellison silverton OR Painting,waiting for FWF kit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net> Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh 2004 > --> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net> > > > Hi All! > > Betty Shaw (Cliff's wife) was kind enough to provide me with a list of Europa builders who flew in, or drove in to Oshkhosh this year. > > The following flew there Europas in: > > Marvin Farley #A051 Blue Grass, TX > > Cliff & Betty Shaw #A229 Edmonds, WA <-- Sporting a new tri-gear undercarrage > > John Wigney #A099 Mooresville, NC > > Erick & Misty Trombley Las Vegas, NV > > Jim Katra Lewiston, MD > > Dave Anderson A227 Gardnerville, NV <--flew his XS motorglider in for the second year > > F. Dean Truax A172 Big Cove Tannery, PA > > Karl Heindl UK392 Alexandria, ON > > Paul McAllister A363 Waukesha, WI <-- Hardly dry from the paint shop! > > The following builders & wannabies drove in: > > Dave Conrad > Jerry Hope > Jack V. Heesweph <---From the Netherlands > Nico Groot <---From the Netherlands > Myron Haluschak > R & J Walker <---From Australia > John Eckel > Jim Butcher > Ira Rampil > Don Heath > Dave Watts <---From The UK > Steve Genotte > Chuck Rhoads > Mike Marker > Mike Marshall > Scott Dingman > Jim Hull > Dave Schroeder > Gary Roberts > Wayne Oehler > Ron Kindechi <---A wannabe > Tom Paul > Don Ingram > Chris Staines > Fergus Flynn <---- From Ireland > Michael Grass > Jeff Williams > Arlen Raasch > Nihl Storey > > Andy Draper & Myself were also there. > > It was great to see so many builders at Oshkosh this year. Can't wait until next year!! > > Happy Building & Flying! > > John Hurst > >


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    Time: 09:11:31 PM PST US
    From: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <genottes@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <genottes@wi.rr.com> Ahem, that's Steve "El Roto" Genotte (I hate when the press gets it wrong). :-P I miss OSH already. [dream] Maybe next year I can actually fly in under my own power for a change. [/dream] -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Europa Aircraft Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh 2004 --> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net> Hi All! Betty Shaw (Cliff's wife) was kind enough to provide me with a list of Europa builders who flew in, or drove in to Oshkhosh this year. <snip a distinguished list>




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