Europa-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/28/04


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:50 AM - Re: Rudder Horn Misalignment (Brian Davies)
     2. 01:43 AM - Fuel gauge and sender (Steven Pitt)
     3. 02:50 AM - Re: Firewall Forward-less (Raimo Toivio)
     4. 04:23 AM - colin arkle bad e-mail address (Rowland Carson)
     5. 05:09 AM - Re: Rudder Horn Misalignment (Paul McAllister)
     6. 05:22 AM - Europas for sale (Richard Holder)
     7. 01:26 PM - Re: Europa Test Flights (Tony Bale)
     8. 03:29 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 09/27/04 (Graham Singleton)
     9. 03:29 PM - Coolant loss (Graham Singleton)
    10. 03:32 PM - Re: Spraylat (Rob Huntington)
    11. 05:23 PM - Re: Spraylat ()
    12. 08:41 PM - Epibond 420 shelf life? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:50:06 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Horn Misalignment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk> John, Mine is the same. It appears to be a compromise because the tail wheel cables are out of line in the opposite direction. If you altered yours I think you would have a bigger problem with the tail wheel. Brian Davies Kit 454, painting in progress. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TELEDYNMCS@aol.com> Subject: Europa-List: Rudder Horn Misalignment > --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com > > Greetings all, > > I've started the task of installing my sternpost and I've noticed what I > believe is a gross error in the alignment of the rudder horn. > > I cut the base of the rudder exactly as it is shown in Chapter 2, exactly 90 > degrees to the hinge pin line, and installed the nut plate and rudder horn > exactly as the instructions show. The upper and lower fuselage moldings at the > trailing edge are cut exactly on the cut line shown. Holding the rudder up to > the sternpost and sighting the alignment of the rudder horn shows it is a good > 25 degrees out of line with the starboard rudder cable as it exits the fuselage > side and similarly out of line with the fuselage seam (level line). This > cannot possibly be right. Attaching the rudder cable to the horn in the fashion > shown using a bolt would put a side load on the cable thimble anytime the rudder > moves and almost certainly would cause the cable to fail with repeated use. I > followed the manual sequentially, so when the nutplate and rudder horn were > mounted I wasn't far enough along with the fuselage to verify the angle. If I > had waited until I was ready to install the sternpost to check the angle I'm > pretty sure I would have caught this because the angle is so off. > > I can fix the problem, but it's going to take sawing off the nutplate, > adjusting the angle of the bottom of the rudder to match the cable line, and then > re-installing the nutplate. I figure this is at least 10 hours additional work > minimum. > > Has anybody else run into this? Am I missing an update somewhere that shows a > different procedure? I can't see this working at all as is. > > Regards, > > John Lawton > Dunlap, TN > A-245 (Scratching my head once again) > >


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    Time: 01:43:22 AM PST US
    From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Fuel gauge and sender
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> Fellow Europa builders I purchased the Skysports fuel gauge and probe and am now installing it. However I find that the cables are rather large, which is puzzling me as the system only calls for a 1amp fuse/cb, and Tony Bingelis's book suggests that 1amp only requires 22g cables. Am I right or confusing myself? Steve Pitt #403


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    Time: 02:50:46 AM PST US
    From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
    Subject: Re: Firewall Forward-less
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> ,> If you would like your name to appear on this list, send me your name, > kit #, LG type, status of build, and address. I'll post the list on Oct. 1. > > Fred > A194 Hi! 1) Raimo Toivio 2) #417 3) Mono 4) installing flap drive mechanism 5) 37500 Lempaala, Finland Regards, Raimo M W Toivio OH-XRT #417 OH-CVK OH-BLL 37500 Lempaala Finland tel + 358 3 3753 777 fax + 358 3 3753 100 gsm + 358 40 590 1450 raimo.toivio@rwm.fi www.rwm.fi


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    Time: 04:23:51 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: colin arkle bad e-mail address
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> I had request for Europa Club members-only access to the website from Colin Arkle. My reply confirming that his request is being processed has bounced from the address he quoted. If you're out there, Colin, please contact me at <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> so I can check your e-mail address. Thanks! regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (710 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>


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    Time: 05:09:19 AM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Horn Misalignment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> John, Have you looked at Graham Singleton's tailwheel mod. It does a nice job of tucking the rudder cables inside the fuselage. I have one and it works well. Paul


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    Time: 05:22:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Europas for sale
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> I may be a little late on this as I arrived back from 2 weeks in the USA this morning. I received the details from the Europa Administrators. I haven't read it too carefully (too much else to read) but I think it said that the two Europa demonstrators were sold for 25,000 GBP each. Can this be true ? G-KITZ as a factory built aircraft with a Garmin 530 no less MUST have been worth at least 45,000 GBP. I think I read on here a few weeks ago that someone here had bought it. Good deal for you sir !!!! :-) Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)


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    Time: 01:26:01 PM PST US
    From: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
    Subject: Re: Europa Test Flights
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net> Carl, Thanks for the informative response, it gives us a better understanding of what is next (assuming we fix the wing problem soon). We have built the aircraft at Rayne near Braintree, Essex (10 miles East of Stansted). We are thinking about using a test pilot called John (?) Brownlow. Efforts are underway to secure his services, I guess we will be ready in about 7 -10 days to send off the paperwork for the permit release. We have 336, Monowheel XS 912S, and although a warpdrive set to 20.75 deg is currently installed, we also have an Airmaster which we will fit once the snaggs are ironed out and we are comfortable flying the old girl. Think its going to be a bit different to the Arrow I have a share in at Southend !! Regards Tony.


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    Time: 03:29:10 PM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 09/27/04
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> At 23:56 27/09/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Rudder Horn Misalignment > >--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com > >I've started the task of installing my sternpost and I've noticed what I >believe is a gross error in the alignment of the rudder horn. > >I can fix the problem, but it's going to take sawing off the nutplate, >adjusting the angle of the bottom of the rudder to match the cable line, >and then > >re-installing the nutplate. >John Lawton John the best fix is to put the pushrod back to drive the rudder, (as on the Classic) It looks much neater, doesn't overload the rudder flange and hinge (the standard XS fit does) and is the right way to do these things! (imho) Graham


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    Time: 03:29:10 PM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Coolant loss
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> At 23:56 27/09/2004 -0700, you wrote: >At 260 hours have added coolant at 50 hour intervals when under the hood >changing oil...amount 4 oz or so to the overflow tank. The tank on top of >the engine is always full. >Ken Carpenter This is how it's designed to work. Always check the swirl pot as well as the overflow tank because if there is a leak, even slight, the engine may not suck coolant back in when it cools down. If the swirl pot is not full, there is probably a leak. Graham


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    Time: 03:32:56 PM PST US
    From: Rob Huntington <robertodue2002@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Re: Spraylat
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington <robertodue2002@yahoo.com> Hello all, We have found (unfortunately) that the best way to remove old Spraylat is to use a 50%/50% mixture of acetone and mineral spirits to help soften the coating. Care must be taken to not have too high of concentration of acetone otherwise it can create a haze on the window. It is best to try on a scrap piece of window material to test the compatability. Again, prevention is the best course, a minimum of 4 coats applied, with each additional coat applied just as the previous coat has dried enough to brush/spray without deforming the previous coat. Removal and replacement should be done annually at the very longest, and preferrably every 6 months. Regards, Rob Huntington Phoenix Composites 4863 E. Falcon Dr. Mesa, AZ 85215 ph (480) 924-9750 email robertodue2002@yahoo.com ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:23:26 PM PST US
    From: <beecho@beecho.org>
    Subject: Spraylat
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org> I just removed Spraylat that had been on about 9 months by using warm water and a citrus cleaner, then scraping with a plastic scraper. It came off easily and left no marks. Tom Friedland -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Huntington Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spraylat --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington <robertodue2002@yahoo.com> Hello all, We have found (unfortunately) that the best way to remove old Spraylat is to use a 50%/50% mixture of acetone and mineral spirits to help soften the coating. Care must be taken to not have too high of concentration of acetone otherwise it can create a haze on the window. It is best to try on a scrap piece of window material to test the compatability. Again, prevention is the best course, a minimum of 4 coats applied, with each additional coat applied just as the previous coat has dried enough to brush/spray without deforming the previous coat. Removal and replacement should be done annually at the very longest, and preferrably every 6 months. Regards, Rob Huntington Phoenix Composites 4863 E. Falcon Dr. Mesa, AZ 85215 ph (480) 924-9750 email robertodue2002@yahoo.com --------------------------------- == == == ==


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    Time: 08:41:12 PM PST US
    From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: Epibond 420 shelf life?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Needing more Redux, placed an order for Epibond 420. The salesperson informed me the shelf life was 6 months from manufacturers ship date when i asked. Said they only have very fresh stuff. The redux i had the stamped date was more than a few years? Is Epibond Shelf life a lot less than Redux? I thought it was the same stuff? Thx Ron Parigoris




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