Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:41 AM - Monowheel Trailer (Sean O'Reilly)
2. 03:57 AM - Re: Monowheel Trailer (MICHAEL PARKIN)
3. 04:13 AM - Re: (Nigel Charles)
4. 05:07 AM - Re: Monowheel Trailer (Sean O'Reilly)
5. 08:08 AM - RE : Monowheel Trailer (Michel AUVRAY)
6. 08:12 AM - RE : Monowheel Trailer (Michel AUVRAY)
7. 08:58 AM - Re: RE : Monowheel Trailer (Dale G. HetriG Hetrick)
8. 09:36 AM - Re: Monowheel Trailer (Brian Davies)
9. 10:20 AM - Long EZ's into space (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
10. 11:00 AM - Re: Long EZ's into space (Gerry Holland)
11. 11:31 AM - Re: Long EZ's into space with Dynon (JEFF ROBERTS)
12. 12:18 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Engine option (RK Hallett III)
13. 12:33 PM - Re: (Duncan McFadyean)
14. 12:53 PM - Re: Monowheel Trailer (Duncan McFadyean)
15. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: (Duncan McFadyean)
16. 01:51 PM - RE : RE : Monowheel Trailer (Michel AUVRAY)
17. 02:32 PM - Re: RE : RE : Monowheel Trailer (Dale G. HetriG Hetrick)
18. 03:18 PM - Airmaster slip ring brushes (Richard Iddon)
19. 05:28 PM - with Dynon (Cliff Shaw)
20. 07:41 PM - Re: Long EZ's into space (Alan Burrows)
21. 10:19 PM - Re: with Dynon (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
22. 11:12 PM - Re: Re: prop sizes for monowheels (nigel charles)
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Subject: | Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
I'm in the market for a monowheel trailer - new or used.
Does anyone have one for sale or is aware of where I might get one?
Thanks
Sean O'Reilly
Reigate, Surrey
07818 011023
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Sean,
I bought my trailer from Schofield Aviation. at
http://www.schofieldaviation.com/
regards,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
> <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
>
>
> I'm in the market for a monowheel trailer - new or used.
>
> Does anyone have one for sale or is aware of where I might get one?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean O'Reilly
> Reigate, Surrey
> 07818 011023
>
> Express yourself with cool new emoticons
> http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi Tim
For your info the standard prop diameters for the Classic and XS are 62 inch and
64 inch respectively. The XS installation places the engine 1inch higher so
the ground clearance should be the same for both. The larger diameter should be
slightly more efficient as it reduces the blade angle nearer to the optimum
for the same power setting. I use a 64inch prop with my Classic on the basis that
if you get within 1inch of prop strike it is very likely that the aircraft
will continue pitching until the prop touches the ground anyway.
With warpdrive blades (Airmaster & NSI props) untapered blades are usually specified
with the 912S and 914 whereas tapered blades are better matched to the lower
power 912.
Regards
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----
Can you confirm you are running a 65" prop
My permit says I've got a 62" warp drive on my Classic ( though I have never
measured it!!) and I wonder how the extra diameter affects things, is a
bigger prop standard with the XS ?
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
Mike,
Thanks for the tip - happy with yours?
Sean
>From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:57:04 +0100
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN"
><mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
>Sean,
>
>I bought my trailer from Schofield Aviation. at
>http://www.schofieldaviation.com/
>
>regards,
>
>Mike
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
> > <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I'm in the market for a monowheel trailer - new or used.
> >
> > Does anyone have one for sale or is aware of where I might get one?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sean O'Reilly
> > Reigate, Surrey
> > 07818 011023
> >
> > Express yourself with cool new emoticons
> > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo
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> >
> >
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Subject: | Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michel AUVRAY" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
I have one in France north of Paris (Persan Beaumont)at a good price
1100
If you are interested she is immediately available.
--|--
--------(*)--------
Michel AUVRAY
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Sean
O'Reilly
Envoy : lundi 4 octobre 2004 11:40
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
--> <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
I'm in the market for a monowheel trailer - new or used.
Does anyone have one for sale or is aware of where I might get one?
Thanks
Sean O'Reilly
Reigate, Surrey
07818 011023
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Subject: | Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michel AUVRAY" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
Yes but we are Three Europa in the Hangar and one trailer is sufficient
now.
Also my Trailer is old model strong and better than the new one.
I am builder N 145 (XS monowheel) and now I have 240 hours flying all
is ok. Next month I install woodcomp Constant speed propeller.
Regards
--|--
--------(*)--------
Michel AUVRAY
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Sean
O'Reilly
Envoy : lundi 4 octobre 2004 14:07
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
--> <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
Mike,
Thanks for the tip - happy with yours?
Sean
>From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:57:04 +0100
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN"
><mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
>Sean,
>
>I bought my trailer from Schofield Aviation. at
>http://www.schofieldaviation.com/
>
>regards,
>
>Mike
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
> > <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I'm in the market for a monowheel trailer - new or used.
> >
> > Does anyone have one for sale or is aware of where I might get one?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sean O'Reilly
> > Reigate, Surrey
> > 07818 011023
> >
> > Express yourself with cool new emoticons
> > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo
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> >
> >
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dale G. HetriG Hetrick" <gdale2@juno.com>
Michel,
Please keep us informed about the performance of the Kremen (Woodcomp)
prop.
Thanks,
Dale
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
I think I bought the last trailer that David Scofield intends to make. He
has closed down his facility and moved into smaller premises. Still might
be worth a call to him.
Brian Davies kit 454
painting in progress.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN"
<mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
> Sean,
>
> I bought my trailer from Schofield Aviation. at
> http://www.schofieldaviation.com/
>
> regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
> > <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I'm in the market for a monowheel trailer - new or used.
> >
> > Does anyone have one for sale or is aware of where I might get one?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sean O'Reilly
> > Reigate, Surrey
> > 07818 011023
> >
> > Express yourself with cool new emoticons
> > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Long EZ's into space |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Congratulations to Rutan and Mojave crew for the second successful launch and
landing of SpaceShipOne! They are the official winner of the X Prize. Well
done!
Typical of all things flying, they spent $20 million to win $10 million.
Why does it always work out that way when a motor and wings are involved in a
project?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
See my build photos at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
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Subject: | Re: Long EZ's into space |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Hi all!
> Congratulations to Rutan and Mojave crew for the second successful launch and
> landing of SpaceShipOne! They are the official winner of the X Prize. Well
> done!
Well. We have a Glider Wing Kit for Europa. Why not a Galactic Kit.
RATO assisted Europa.
SpaceShipOne also used a modified Dynon EFIS for back up attitude awareness.
Regards
Gerry
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Subject: | Re: Long EZ's into space with Dynon |
--> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
>
>> Congratulations to Rutan and Mojave crew for the second successful
>> launch and
>> landing of SpaceShipOne! They are the official winner of the X Prize.
>> Well
>> done!
>
>
> Space Ship One also used a modified Dynon EFIS for back up attitude
> awareness.
>
Hi all you Europa crazies... Me Too!
I am close to ordering a Dynon for my bird but I have spoken with 2
people (RV Builders) that have talked to other people with supposedly
bad experience with it. I have heard that after left to right rolls the
unit does not like to right itself. Now I know how negative things can
spread so I am relying on all you experienced flyers using it to give
me the scoop first hand. How about it! Are there enough of you flying
with it to give a comment? Can anyone comment from experience.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
A258
Sanding & wiring
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Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Engine option |
--> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
Andy,
Thanks for the info, it has been most helpful. Looking fwd to future
remarks.
Ralph
Joe Proctor wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Joe Proctor" <pjoe2@qwest.net>
>
>Andy;
>I for one welcome your input as one that looks forward to the firewall
>forward purchase.
>regards.
>Joe A- 272
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andy Silvester" <info@suncoastjabiru.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Oops. Mistake. It's 64".
65" is allowed on the tri-gear, I understand. Although the taildragger has
loads more ground-prop clearance than the tri.
The smaller diameter prop should in theory be better for ultimate speed.
However, a bigger diameter prop provides better climb, which being the case
then enables more of a trade-off on coarsening the pitch without loss of
climb performance, which then helps with top end speed.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
> --> Europa-List message posted by:
>
> From: "Houlihan,Tim" <tim.houlihan@oce.co.uk>
> To: "'europa-list@matronics.com'" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Jabiru Support for Europa
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:33:34 +0100
>
> Duncan
> Can you confirm you are running a 65" prop
>
> My permit says I've got a 62" warp drive on my Classic ( though I have
never
> measured it!!) and I wonder how the extra diameter affects things, is a
> bigger prop standard with the XS ?
>
> Regards
>
> Tim Houlihan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Duncan
> McFadyean
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru Support for Europa
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> That was at102 knots (although others in the same formation were recording
> between 105 and 115 knots). OAT would have been around 5C or less and
> altitude was about 5000' (can check more precise parameters from GPS log).
> Fixed pitch wide chord WD 65" x 20.5 deg at tip.
> In France last weekend fuel burn at 91 knots was 7 l/hr, 3900 rpm.
However,
> it was a thermally day and there may have been some contribution from this
> because I've not seen fuel burn below 7.25 l/hr before.
>
> Rgds.,
> Duncan.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru Support for Europa
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
> >
> >
> > >> Factoid:
> > >> A 3300 Jabiru-Europa flown over a long distance in loose formation
with
> a
> > >> 912s-Europa last year returned close to 4 gph. The Rotax burned
2.5gph.
> > >>
> > >> Duncan McF.
> >
> > Duncan Hi!
> >
> > That equates to 11.4 Litres per hour from Europa? What was the airspeed
> > performance and at what level and temperature. Was that with CS Prop?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
<<Next month I install woodcomp Constant speed propeller.>>
Please supply comparative data when you have done this.
Duncan McF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel AUVRAY" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
Subject: RE : Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michel AUVRAY"
<m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
>
> Yes but we are Three Europa in the Hangar and one trailer is sufficient
> now.
> Also my Trailer is old model strong and better than the new one.
>
> I am builder N 145 (XS monowheel) and now I have 240 hours flying all
> is ok. Next month I install woodcomp Constant speed propeller.
>
> Regards
>
> --|--
> --------(*)--------
>
> Michel AUVRAY
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Sean
> O'Reilly
> Envoy : lundi 4 octobre 2004 14:07
> : europa-list@matronics.com
> Objet : Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
> --> <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the tip - happy with yours?
>
> Sean
>
>
> >From: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
> >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
> >Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:57:04 +0100
> >
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN"
> ><mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
> >
> >Sean,
> >
> >I bought my trailer from Schofield Aviation. at
> >http://www.schofieldaviation.com/
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly"
> > > <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm in the market for a monowheel trailer - new or used.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have one for sale or is aware of where I might get one?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Sean O'Reilly
> > > Reigate, Surrey
> > > 07818 011023
> > >
> > > Express yourself with cool new emoticons
> > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo
> > >
> > >
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> >
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
<<I use a 64inch prop with my Classic on the basis that if you get within
1inch of prop strike it is very likely that the aircraft will continue
pitching until the prop touches the ground anyway.
>>
I'm sure there's some logic here, but I need it explained to me!
Duncan Mcf.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: RE:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles"
<nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Hi Tim
>
> For your info the standard prop diameters for the Classic and XS are 62
inch and 64 inch respectively. The XS installation places the engine 1inch
higher so the ground clearance should be the same for both. The larger
diameter should be slightly more efficient as it reduces the blade angle
nearer to the optimum for the same power setting. > With warpdrive blades
(Airmaster & NSI props) untapered blades are usually specified with the 912S
and 914 whereas tapered blades are better matched to the lower power 912.
>
> Regards
>
> Nigel Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Can you confirm you are running a 65" prop
>
> My permit says I've got a 62" warp drive on my Classic ( though I have
never
> measured it!!) and I wonder how the extra diameter affects things, is
a
> bigger prop standard with the XS ?
>
>
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Subject: | Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michel AUVRAY" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
OK Dale, but next month because I install the prop in 10 days.
--|--
--------(*)--------
Michel AUVRAY
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Dale G.
HetriG Hetrick
Envoy : lundi 4 octobre 2004 17:55
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Re: RE : Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dale G. HetriG Hetrick"
--> <gdale2@juno.com>
Michel,
Please keep us informed about the performance of the Kremen (Woodcomp)
prop. Thanks, Dale
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dale G. HetriG Hetrick" <gdale2@juno.com>
Michele.
Thanks, I look forward to hearing the results of your Woodcomp prop
installation.
Dale
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Subject: | Airmaster slip ring brushes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
My Airmaster prop appears to need new slip ring brushes at around 135
hours. Anyone else had to replace these, how many hours and any tips
for fitting?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Jeff
I have been flying with Dynon since they first were available. If you know
some one who can roll fast enough to get Dynon to tumble, I don't want to
ride with him. I doubt that you will see it ever tumble. It is not going
to keep up with acrobatic maneuvers, but who is looking at it then? It is
solid state and very easy on the power usage. Mine is the early model and is
heat sensitive. It flags me by turning black and white when it gets hot (95
F ) but it just keeps on working. (so did all the rest of my systems)
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
Flying down to Mt. Saint Helens tomorrow to take a closer look.
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Subject: | Re: Long EZ's into space |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
I agree, dont know why it always costs, but it does I always remember what
my pappy said to me " if it's got wings or an engine its gonna cost ya" or
at least i think that's what he said(I was drunk at the time)
Alan :-)
Tri-gear G-CBWF with the emphasis on the "Whiskey"!! ( in sunny Florida)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
>
> Congratulations to Rutan and Mojave crew for the second successful launch
> and
> landing of SpaceShipOne! They are the official winner of the X Prize.
> Well
> done!
>
> Typical of all things flying, they spent $20 million to win $10 million.
>
> Why does it always work out that way when a motor and wings are involved
> in a
> project?
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Brian S
> A276 Tri Gear. Texas
> See my build photos at:
> http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Cliff,
Is the heat problem still evident with the newer Dynons? I can imagine me
trying to use it after my aircraft sat on the ramp at Benton Airport in Redding
in the summer. It might cool down to 95'F at night! I wonder if Dynon will be
at CopperState or Expo? I guess I could ask them if they are.
Mike Duane
A207 XS Conventional Gear
Redding, California
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Subject: | RE: prop sizes for monowheels |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
<<I use a 64inch prop with my Classic on the basis that if you get
within 1inch of prop strike it is very likely that the aircraft will
continue pitching until the prop touches the ground anyway.
>>
>I'm sure there's some logic here, but I need it explained to me!<
The point is that if you pitch far enough over during a ground loop (the
most common reason for prop strike) once you have gone far enough to
strike a 64 inch prop on a Classic the pitch angle and inertia is such
that it would have almost certainly continued the extra inch required to
strike a 62 inch prop. The only time I see the smaller diameter saving
the day is a strike over rough ground where the strike is not due to
loss of control. However this is not a very likely scenario. I measured
the prop ground clearances (a/c empty) to be 11 inches and 12 inches
respectively.
Although the above is just a theory and I have been lucky enough not to
have a prop strike so far, talking to those that have the impression is
that once the groundloop has started the pitch/roll manoeuvre continues
until the prop strikes.
Nigel Charles
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