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1. 01:26 AM - Re: Finger Brake Conversion (G-IANI)
2. 03:34 AM - push rods for the doors (Graham Singleton)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: push rods for the doors (Jos Okhuijsen)
4. 06:22 AM - Re: Routing fuel hose through the firewall (Fred Fillinger)
5. 07:42 AM - Re: push rods for the doors (Fergus Kyle)
6. 09:21 AM - Routing fuel lines through firewall (Erich Trombley)
7. 10:21 AM - FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin (R.C.Harrison)
8. 02:43 PM - Scuff sanding (Fred R. Klein)
9. 03:29 PM - Re: Scuff sanding (JEFF ROBERTS)
10. 08:12 PM - Trimming Cranked Sticks (Tony Renshaw)
11. 08:59 PM - Re: Cabin Heater (Cliff Shaw)
12. 10:16 PM - Re: Trimming Cranked Sticks (R.C.Harrison)
13. 10:28 PM - Re: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin (William Mills)
14. 10:43 PM - Re: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin (William Mills)
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| Subject: | Finger Brake Conversion |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
What you need is Europa (Factory) Mod Number 65. Contact the factory for
details and price. For information I will send you the documentation
direct.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | push rods for the doors |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 13/10/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>push rods for the doors
>From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
> 2.60 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty
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>--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
>
>Just wondering, has anybody come up with a clever way to make the 4 mm
>slots in
>the 10 mm bars for the door latch pushrods? Hand filing, as i am making
>the first
>one now seems to be a lot of filing. Maybe the most clever way to do it is
>find an crc milling shop eh?
Jos
there's a better way, use 1/8" plate side cheeks riveted on. I'll send you
some pictures of Paul McAllister's installation. Cutting out the rod makes
it very weak, it's soft aluminium.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: push rods for the doors |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Nev,
You did it again. If it was a competition, you just won the first price.
Jos
> Easy way to cut the slots is to mount 3 blades, side by side. in a
> hacksaw
> frame.
> Cheers,
> Nev.
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| Subject: | Re: Routing fuel hose through the firewall |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
simon miles wrote:
>
> What is the best way to route the fuel supply and return hoses
> through the firewall? I have a 912S engine. To me, some type of
> bulkhead union for the Europa supplied hoses would be the best
> way but I can't find any suitable fittings. How have others done
this?
>
I used brass stuff available at the local hardware store. Two 5/16"
nipples with 1/8" NPT; 1/8" female-female coupler; thin 3/8" brass
washers. Open up the hole in the washers to fit. The trick is to use
enough/thickness of washers, and/or filing down the coupler a little
bit, so that as the assembly tightens sufficiently, it's also tight on
the bulkhead. Assemble with hardening Permatex, or Permatex Aviation
Form-A-Gasket, or even epoxy adhesive, which is also fuel resistant.
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Re: push rods for the doors |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
I remember this as a particularly difficult step to complete - and like our
friend - wondering why we didn't hear about the 3 blades earlier. However,
my personal solution was to scout the toolshops locally and buy a flat file
which produced an exact 4mm slot by means of its edge. I began with wayward
saws and finished by cleaning up with the file. It took some doing but the
micrometer was happy in the end.........
Cheers, Ferg A064
PS That ain't all.......... I fouled up the length measurement on one, and
it's repaired with rivets and a patch of 3/8inch alu rod, 'cause I couldn't
wait.
----- Original Message -----
From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Subject: Europa-List: push rods for the doors
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
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| Just wondering, has anybody come up with a clever way to make the 4 mm
slots in the 10 mm bars for the door latch pushrods? Hand filing, as i am
making the first one now seems to be a lot of filing. Maybe the most clever
way to do it is find an crc milling shop eh?
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| Subject: | Routing fuel lines through firewall |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
Simon,
I used aluminum fuel line and routed it through the tunnel and up in between the
mounting frame and fuselage/firewall. This approach does not require penetrating
the firewall. I secured the aluminum line to the face of the firewall and
then transitioned to standard rubber fuel line to connect to the engine. The
above did require a notch in the stainless steel firewall panel to accommodate
the fuel lines. I simply filled the gap with silicone.
Erich Trombley
N28ET
Mono-Classic 914
What is the best way to route the fuel supply and return hoses through the
firewall? I have a 912S engine. To me, some type of bulkhead union for the
Europa supplied hoses would be the best way but I can't find any suitable
fittings. How have others done this?
Best regards,
Simon Miles,
Builder #508
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| Subject: | FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
-----Original Message-----
From: R.C.Harrison [mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk]
Subject: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
Hi! How about this for a DoTH weekend fly in ?
Not sure I can make it but will try since it's a free landing!
Don't overfly the nearby village though.
Regards
Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: KonTikiOne@aol.com [mailto:KonTikiOne@aol.com]
Subject: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
General Bulletin to Members & all Uk Airfields
Saturday 16 October Fenland Airfield's Annual Spectacular .. ( Now in
its 3rd Year ! )
The Geoff Worley Memorial .. Vans & Jabiru Fly-in
With the weather on our side, and we're optimistic as always, we expect
a really busy day. Weather or Not !
Remember.....Jab & Vans variants and ALL other types are welcome
anyway....We'll be pleased to see you !
We offer to ALL incoming pilots on the day................... Free
Landing ............ Yes, waivered fees !
A certificate and token of appreciation to the longest travelled visitor
in the Vans & Jab Classes .
Good restaurant facility and very reasonably priced
refreshments..................
Fuel at good prices..cheaper still for members.....Both 100LL & Jet A1
Quality Windsocks Herald our Two very good grass
runways...........08/26 & 18/36 ....
Whoever you are and wherever you travel from You'll be
welcome.......................
PILOTS Fenland AFIS & Radio 122.925 MHz Phone 01406 540330 (Tower)
on the day should you need
or Radio the Tower on your way in. Its a Fly-in ....Hope you can make
the trip...Its the aviator that makes an event a
success...................(About 150+ movements both previous years )
PLEASE CALL THE NUMBERS BELOW FOR ANY INFORMATION
Peter Burkitt Fenland Aero Club
Fen. Flymail & Fen. Flyer Edit.
mailto: KonTikiOne@aol.com <javascript:void> )
phone/fax .......... ....01234 357857
Mobile.................... 07810 735253
click: <http://www.fenlandairfield.co.uk/> FENLAND AIRFIELD EGCL
click: aero-g-pix.co.uk <http://www.aero-g-pix.co.uk/>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Hi All,
On the subject of "scuff sanding"...particularly in relation to preparation
for the 2" wide reinforcement tapes between the wing spar and skins...I've
read thru the manual as well as the matronics search without finding any
info which seemed relevant.
My concern is my uncertainty as to what constitutes adequate "scuff sanding"
in order to achieve required bonding.
As I sand the areas of the skins where the 2" reinf. tapes go, I note that
because of the weave of the glass on the skins, a pattern developes with the
high areas becoming whitish matte and the low areas remaining darker and
somewhat glossy; my fear is that if I continue sanding so that the area
becomes 100% "whitish matte", I will remove too much material and degrade
the strength value of the existing glass skins.
I'd be grateful to learn whether or not a consensus has been reached on this
issue as well as any individual comments from "those who have gone before"
me.
Fred
A194
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| Subject: | Re: Scuff sanding |
--> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
Fred,
Just sand it to where there is no shiny material left. You shouldn't
have to sand into the glass to worry about degrading the material but
even if you get into it a bit you are about to place 2 more layers on
top of it. The scuff sanding is just so the epoxy holds.
Jeff
A258
Priming & sanding it off again looking for that perfect finish. Now I
remember why I use to hate doing drywall!
On Oct 14, 2004, at 4:42 PM, Fred R. Klein wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein"
> <fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> On the subject of "scuff sanding"...particularly in relation to
> preparation
> for the 2" wide reinforcement tapes between the wing spar and
> skins...I've
> read thru the manual as well as the matronics search without finding
> any
> info which seemed relevant.
>
> My concern is my uncertainty as to what constitutes adequate "scuff
> sanding"
> in order to achieve required bonding.
>
> As I sand the areas of the skins where the 2" reinf. tapes go, I note
> that
> because of the weave of the glass on the skins, a pattern developes
> with the
> high areas becoming whitish matte and the low areas remaining darker
> and
> somewhat glossy; my fear is that if I continue sanding so that the area
> becomes 100% "whitish matte", I will remove too much material and
> degrade
> the strength value of the existing glass skins.
>
> I'd be grateful to learn whether or not a consensus has been reached
> on this
> issue as well as any individual comments from "those who have gone
> before"
> me.
>
> Fred
> A194
>
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| Subject: | Trimming Cranked Sticks |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
I am fitting up my control boots and sticks, and notice that the length
appears really long, so I am wondering if others have cut them down at
all?? The base of my stick sits about an inch above my knee, so my entire
hand is up in the air, even when sitting on 2 cushions totalling about 2-3"
of padding. All help appreciated.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
Classic 236 B.B. Taildragger
Currently working on Rudder Pedals,
In but tight so more work to go on them.
Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
Lower Fuse in Jig,
Tail Torque Tube installed with temporary timber dowels.
Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
Roof Panel between doors completed.
Photos at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/TonyR
Intended Engine: 912S CS prop (model undecided)
Instrumentation: Garmin 296 Colour GPS beneath an electronic Artificial
Horizon, one that I can trust for short periods IMC, to get out of a sticky
situation
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Heater |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Steve and All
I originally had a cockpit heater taking hot air off a plenum over the top
of the muffler. At Oshkosh this past summer, Dave Anderson and I traded
stories about CO in the cockpit. Because of this discussion, I have disabled
this heater set-up. I now think it unwise to take any air from inside the
engine cowling in any way. Only intake air in tight fitting ducting will be
used.
I am planning to install a small radiator in a home-made fiberglass air duct
and run hot water through it. (Not a new idea) Parts have not been specked
as yet and help along this line would be appreciated.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Cabin Heater
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm"
> <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>
> My newly acquired XS doesn't have a cabin heater. For those of you not
> flying in a non-tropical environment, what are us doing to provide heat
> for
> the cabin?
>
> Steve Crimm
> A058
> N15JN
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Trimming Cranked Sticks |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Tony.
If you have the Europa supplied cranked sticks and tufnol bottom bushes
mine didn't need cutting down. Biggest problem is settling on the
rotational orientation to ensure full and free movement without your
knees being in the way AND above all being sure that the P1 stick
doesn't hit the panel. The centre line of the torque tubes on both sides
is not in the centre of the seat pan. The range of movement required
isn't apparent until you have the wings fitted.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Renshaw
Subject: Europa-List: Trimming Cranked Sticks
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
I am fitting up my control boots and sticks, and notice that the length
appears really long, so I am wondering if others have cut them down at
all?? The base of my stick sits about an inch above my knee, so my
entire
hand is up in the air, even when sitting on 2 cushions totalling about
2-3"
of padding. All help appreciated.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
I think you have skipped a month, Bob. Fenland is for November!
Best wishes,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R.C.Harrison [mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk]
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
>
> Hi! How about this for a DoTH weekend fly in ?
> Not sure I can make it but will try since it's a free landing!
> Don't overfly the nearby village though.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KonTikiOne@aol.com [mailto:KonTikiOne@aol.com]
> To: KonTikiOne@aol.com
> Subject: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
>
> General Bulletin to Members & all Uk Airfields
> Saturday 16 October Fenland Airfield's Annual Spectacular .. ( Now in
> its 3rd Year ! )
> The Geoff Worley Memorial .. Vans & Jabiru Fly-in
> With the weather on our side, and we're optimistic as always, we expect
> a really busy day. Weather or Not !
> Remember.....Jab & Vans variants and ALL other types are welcome
> anyway....We'll be pleased to see you !
> We offer to ALL incoming pilots on the day................... Free
> Landing ............ Yes, waivered fees !
> A certificate and token of appreciation to the longest travelled visitor
> in the Vans & Jab Classes .
> Good restaurant facility and very reasonably priced
> refreshments..................
> Fuel at good prices..cheaper still for members.....Both 100LL & Jet A1
> Quality Windsocks Herald our Two very good grass
> runways...........08/26 & 18/36 ....
> Whoever you are and wherever you travel from You'll be
> welcome.......................
> PILOTS Fenland AFIS & Radio 122.925 MHz Phone 01406 540330 (Tower)
> on the day should you need
> or Radio the Tower on your way in. Its a Fly-in ....Hope you can make
> the trip...Its the aviator that makes an event a
> success...................(About 150+ movements both previous years )
> PLEASE CALL THE NUMBERS BELOW FOR ANY INFORMATION
> Peter Burkitt Fenland Aero Club
> Fen. Flymail & Fen. Flyer Edit.
> mailto: KonTikiOne@aol.com <javascript:void> )
> phone/fax .......... ....01234 357857
> Mobile.................... 07810 735253
> click: <http://www.fenlandairfield.co.uk/> FENLAND AIRFIELD EGCL
> click: aero-g-pix.co.uk <http://www.aero-g-pix.co.uk/>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Sorry, Bob. I failed to read the rest of your message and was confused by
the reference to DoTH.
Regards,
William
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R.C.Harrison [mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk]
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: FW: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
>
> Hi! How about this for a DoTH weekend fly in ?
> Not sure I can make it but will try since it's a free landing!
> Don't overfly the nearby village though.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KonTikiOne@aol.com [mailto:KonTikiOne@aol.com]
> To: KonTikiOne@aol.com
> Subject: Fenland Fly-in Bulletin
>
> General Bulletin to Members & all Uk Airfields
> Saturday 16 October Fenland Airfield's Annual Spectacular .. ( Now in
> its 3rd Year ! )
> The Geoff Worley Memorial .. Vans & Jabiru Fly-in
> With the weather on our side, and we're optimistic as always, we expect
> a really busy day. Weather or Not !
> Remember.....Jab & Vans variants and ALL other types are welcome
> anyway....We'll be pleased to see you !
> We offer to ALL incoming pilots on the day................... Free
> Landing ............ Yes, waivered fees !
> A certificate and token of appreciation to the longest travelled visitor
> in the Vans & Jab Classes .
> Good restaurant facility and very reasonably priced
> refreshments..................
> Fuel at good prices..cheaper still for members.....Both 100LL & Jet A1
> Quality Windsocks Herald our Two very good grass
> runways...........08/26 & 18/36 ....
> Whoever you are and wherever you travel from You'll be
> welcome.......................
> PILOTS Fenland AFIS & Radio 122.925 MHz Phone 01406 540330 (Tower)
> on the day should you need
> or Radio the Tower on your way in. Its a Fly-in ....Hope you can make
> the trip...Its the aviator that makes an event a
> success...................(About 150+ movements both previous years )
> PLEASE CALL THE NUMBERS BELOW FOR ANY INFORMATION
> Peter Burkitt Fenland Aero Club
> Fen. Flymail & Fen. Flyer Edit.
> mailto: KonTikiOne@aol.com <javascript:void> )
> phone/fax .......... ....01234 357857
> Mobile.................... 07810 735253
> click: <http://www.fenlandairfield.co.uk/> FENLAND AIRFIELD EGCL
> click: aero-g-pix.co.uk <http://www.aero-g-pix.co.uk/>
>
>
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