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1. 01:34 PM - Turbo and heater (Dave Anderson)
2. 04:25 PM - Europa Mono-Wheel Trailer (Steve Crimm)
3. 04:40 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/16/04 (Graham Singleton)
4. 06:12 PM - Re: Turbo and heater (Fergus Kyle)
5. 07:05 PM - Auto-squelch on Icom A-200 Comm (MJKTuck@cs.com)
6. 11:31 PM - Re: Turbo and heater (R.C.Harrison)
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| Subject: | Turbo and heater |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net>
Continuing the discussion of the turbo - I taped over the inlets to the cabin of
the heater and that stopped the CO from getting in.
I just went through a serious effort to seal up any pathway for cowl air to get
into the heater system - holes in the duct, gaps between the oil lines and the
baffle - even the little hole in the corner. I just taxi tested it with and
without the heater on and both cases showed no CO in the cockpit. We have weather
today, so I didn't fly. I'll be finding out if the heater now works OK. Having
the exhaust leak around the turbo area helps to determine if the heater is
isolated from cowl gasses. I knew I had that leak for a reason!
Also one more thing - I get water splashing up through the slots in the center
console while taxiing in wet weather. Has anyone out there experienced the same
thing? Is there a simple solution to that. I have a few ideas, but.....
Dave
A227 Mini U2
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| Subject: | Europa Mono-Wheel Trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Does anyone have contact information for the fabricator of the mono-wheel
trailer Europa sold that was made in Europe?
Thanks,
Steve Crimm
N15JN
A058
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/16/04 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 16/10/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Turbo, heater et.al.
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>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net>
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>This might be good along with the discussion of the heater.
>
>I installed my heater idea which was to pull heat from behind the radiators. I
>used the same logic that Kevin did about the lack of CO - fresh air streaming
>down that duct, etc. On the way to OSH, it was providing heat which took
>the edge
>off the cold air up there at 17,500 feet. I have a cowl flap that can keep
>my temps up and that helps with the heat. The big problem was CO. I have
>an electronic
>CO detector and it indicated CO in the cockpit
I am disappointed with the design of the cooling duct on the XS. IMHO (in
other words my guess) the duct takes in about twice as much air as it needs
but doesn't duct it smoothly, neither is it properly sealed to keep CO etc
where it belongs. Not all the air coming in goes for cooling.
Look at the duct on a BanBi they don't overheat AFAIK. Inlet area is much
smaller, so is outlet.
The duct has to smoothly recover the pressure of the entering air, push it
through the radiators, and nowhere else, except the cabin for heating. then
accelerate it back to flying speed or better still, greater than flying
speed. I wish someone would refine the design a little. It would make the
airplane look even prettier. We should not be too hard on Ivan, he was
under pressure to generate some cash at the time. Quite a few folks jobs
depended on him not making too many bum decisions. Pity it was all wasted
when he was moved aside. (my view from some distance)
Graham
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Turbo and heater |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Dave,
I can't say I have the answer in advance (because it's untried by
me) but I have copied the 'brush' which fills my Volvo gear change lever
slot. It has the same exposure to winter winds and water as do the Europa
slots. The brush is available in 36inch lengths and in various sizes at
McMaster-Carr under "conveyor strip brushes and cleaners" page 1097. As well
I have found another "flap" material which is fairly resistant Buna-N
[Nitrile] (food quality) medium soft white 2inch-wide x 1/8inch strip,
36inches long, page 3275. It has an adhesive backing but I intend to ignore
that and install alu strip to attach - flap slots etc.
These are not perfect answers because (a) the brush conforms to the
most insistent displacement over the year(s) - replace? - and (b) the
nitrile strip will probably be stiffer and not so easily partially-displaced
in cold climates.
I welcome any alternative to covering these potential CO entriy
spots - or even if necessary.
Ferg
A064
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Turbo and heater
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net>
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| Continuing the discussion of the turbo - I taped over the inlets to the
cabin of the heater and that stopped the CO from getting in.
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| I just went through a serious effort to seal up any pathway for cowl air
to get into the heater system - holes in the duct, gaps between the oil
lines and the baffle - even the little hole in the corner. I just taxi
tested it with and without the heater on and both cases showed no CO in the
cockpit. We have weather today, so I didn't fly. I'll be finding out if the
heater now works OK. Having the exhaust leak around the turbo area helps to
determine if the heater is isolated from cowl gasses. I knew I had that leak
for a reason!
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| Also one more thing - I get water splashing up through the slots in the
center console while taxiing in wet weather. Has anyone out there
experienced the same thing? Is there a simple solution to that. I have a few
ideas, but.....
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| Dave
| A227 Mini U2
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| Subject: | Auto-squelch on Icom A-200 Comm |
--> Europa-List message posted by: MJKTuck@cs.com
Hi Guys,
As a winter project, I'm thinking of installing a new transponder - my Terra
unit is going to cost way to much to even bench test it - yet alone repair it.
I'd rather spend a little more and get a brand new Garmin GX-327. I will also
replace the Terra comm which works OK but would need to be moved a little to
make room for the new Tpndr. I thought I would go for the Icom A-200 as it
seems to be a good unit.
The only question I have (apart from am I making good choices) is the Icom's
Auto-squelch feature. I found my Terra unit picks up the engine noise though
the mike and normally I use the squelch control until it disappears. With no
squelch control knob on the Icom unit how good will it be on controlling ambient
noise but not the passengers voice?
Anyone with any experience with the unit?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
Europa N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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| Subject: | Turbo and heater |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Ferg.
A more substantial similar brush like material is "Cats Wiskers" used
on HGV mudguards for anti road spray reduction it is very robust and the
brush material is about 3" long. In the UK it is marketed by Capital
Rubber & Plastics Ltd. Unit 11 Deans Factory Est. Lambs Lane Rainham
Essex Tel:- ..
+44 (0) 1708 55 22 14
They probably have minimum order levels so it would need group purchase
and distribution. However for the mono wheel retract slot I think it
would be useful, They also have aluminium strip (curved or straight)
into which it slides for mounting.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Turbo and heater
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Dave,
I can't say I have the answer in advance (because it's untried
by
me) but I have copied the 'brush' which fills my Volvo gear change lever
slot. It has the same exposure to winter winds and water as do the
Europa
slots. The brush is available in 36inch lengths and in various sizes at
McMaster-Carr under "conveyor strip brushes and cleaners" page 1097. As
well
I have found another "flap" material which is fairly resistant Buna-N
[Nitrile] (food quality) medium soft white 2inch-wide x 1/8inch strip,
36inches long, page 3275. It has an adhesive backing but I intend to
ignore
that and install alu strip to attach - flap slots etc.
These are not perfect answers because (a) the brush conforms to
the
most insistent displacement over the year(s) - replace? - and (b) the
nitrile strip will probably be stiffer and not so easily
partially-displaced
in cold climates.
I welcome any alternative to covering these potential CO entriy
spots - or even if necessary.
Ferg
A064
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Anderson" <dja767@charter.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Turbo and heater
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Anderson"
<dja767@charter.net>
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| Continuing the discussion of the turbo - I taped over the inlets to
the
cabin of the heater and that stopped the CO from getting in.
|
| I just went through a serious effort to seal up any pathway for cowl
air
to get into the heater system - holes in the duct, gaps between the oil
lines and the baffle - even the little hole in the corner. I just taxi
tested it with and without the heater on and both cases showed no CO in
the
cockpit. We have weather today, so I didn't fly. I'll be finding out if
the
heater now works OK. Having the exhaust leak around the turbo area helps
to
determine if the heater is isolated from cowl gasses. I knew I had that
leak
for a reason!
|
| Also one more thing - I get water splashing up through the slots in
the
center console while taxiing in wet weather. Has anyone out there
experienced the same thing? Is there a simple solution to that. I have a
few
ideas, but.....
|
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| Dave
| A227 Mini U2
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