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1. 02:05 AM - Fw: Wing tanks (David Joyce)
2. 02:46 AM - Re: heat reflective material (J. R. Jones)
3. 05:08 AM - Re: 914 wastegate cable routing (Kevin Klinefelter)
4. 02:57 PM - Drop of the Hat Fly-in (weekend) (Duncan McFadyean)
5. 11:49 PM - Re: Drop of the Hat Fly-in (weekend) (Tim Butterworth)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Mattias, I was having a senior moment - the fuel tank, of course is not
forward of the spar but above and behind. I don't think that affects the
argument though. To make the Europa a workable 4 seater I guess you need a
longer fuselage to give a greater range of allowable C of G David Joyce-----
Original Message -----
From: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wing tanks
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce"
<davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> Mattias, The normal fuel tank is in front of the spars, but behind the C
of
> G mid range, so that filling up the tanks puts the C of G back. more of a
> snag with the idea of making it a 4 seater is that luggage puts the Cof G
> back considerably more because of the greater moment arm. In fact the
> possible combinations of pilot range 120-450lbs /fuel 0-110lbs &
> baggage0-80lbs uses up the entire permissible C of G range (58.0 to
62.5").
> The following figures for my mid weight 914/XS illustrate the problem:
> Wt of pax Wt of fuel Wt of bags C of G posn
> Shift of C of G
> 200 0 0
> 58.42 -
> 200 110 0
> 60.03 1.61
> 200 110 80
> 62.22 2.19
> 400 0 0
> 58.01 -
> 400 110 0
> 59.48 1.47
> 400 110 80
> 61.21 1.73
> If you take a small (120lb) pilot or two large ones (450lbs) you readily
> reach the extremes of the CofG range. I am very attracted to the idea of
> wing tanks to increase the range but am deeply suspicious of the idea of
> making it into a 4 seater or even a 2+2. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rosen, Mattias" <MRosen@harmanbecker.com>
> To: "FILETIME=[D7905D40:01C4BAA1]" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: AW: Europa-List: Wing tanks
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rosen, Mattias"
> <MRosen@harmanbecker.com>
> >
> > Duncan,
> >
> > Thanks for these inpiring words. Ever since the day I first heard about
> the DynAro 4S (four-seater Ban-Bi) I have been tempted to trading my
Europa
> kit for an MCR 4S. The big problem was that I really wanted Europa's
> detachable wings, and I didn't really need a "real" four seater, but
rather
> a 2+2 (back seats being something like what you will find in a
seven-seater
> VW Touran or Opel Zafira). If the Europa can be converted to a 2+2 seater,
> it is really the perfect plane for me :-)
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: heat reflective material |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "J. R. Jones" <jronjones@lineone.net>
Hi Danny
I used Aluminised glass-cloth glued on with high temp silicone adhesive all
of which is available about 30 miles from you at Demon Tweeks, Wrexham.
They stock Aeroquip Firesleeve and a full range of fuel fittings, hoses,
tubing etc. should you need them.
As I mentioned when I called in, you are very welcome to have a peep at my
aeroplane should you wish. (and a pole around, too!)
Regards,
Ron.
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| Subject: | 914 wastegate cable routing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Thanks Tony, cablesafe it is then. One for the firewall and two for intake
housing.
Too late on the good advice of marking the cable and servo actuator. I
pulled the cable off a while ago to mount the servo on the tunnel. Crap. I
did manage to hang on to the spring!
Thanks again, Kevin
Hoping to fly by spring (season)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Krzyzewski
Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 wastegate cable routing
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> Is this a job for those cable safe things I see in the 'spruce
catalog?
Yes, a cablesafe works really well with the wastegate cable. You'll need the
3/16" insert to capture the cable properly.
As you'll need to disconnect the cable from the servo to do this ensure that
you clearly mark the cable and servo actuator to get the cable back to the
same spot when you reassemble it.
Tony
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| Subject: | Drop of the Hat Fly-in (weekend) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Anyone up for a weekend Drop of the Hat?
Wx looks optimistic for Saturday or (probably better) Sunday.
Last chance to use the freebie for Le Touqet!
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuses, (Fast, Slow or Fat), CB's or Fusible Links
???
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
>
> Cliff Shaw wrote:
> >
> > I ran across this information a while back. I would recommend
> > you read it and reconsider the "old fashion" wiring plan you
> > are considering.
>
> > http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/docs/aircraftwiring.doc
>
> Not bad, but I suggest referring also to Bob Nuckolls' review of it.
> It has some errors and bad advice, he says:
>
>
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Aircraft_Wiring_For_Smart_People_Review
ed.pdf
>
> Reg,
> Fred F.
>
>
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| Subject: | Drop of the Hat Fly-in (weekend) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Butterworth" <Tim.Butterworth@CVLUK.COM>
I am planning to be up and about on Sunday ..... but more likely stopping off somewhere
within 45 minutes of Leicester rather than being too adventurous. I have
engine issues and the last place I am going is over the Channel right now!
Tim Butterworth
G-CHEB
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Duncan McFadyean
Subject: Europa-List: Drop of the Hat Fly-in (weekend)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Anyone up for a weekend Drop of the Hat?
Wx looks optimistic for Saturday or (probably better) Sunday.
Last chance to use the freebie for Le Touqet!
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuses, (Fast, Slow or Fat), CB's or Fusible Links
???
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
>
> Cliff Shaw wrote:
> >
> > I ran across this information a while back. I would recommend
> > you read it and reconsider the "old fashion" wiring plan you
> > are considering.
>
> > http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/docs/aircraftwiring.doc
>
> Not bad, but I suggest referring also to Bob Nuckolls' review of it.
> It has some errors and bad advice, he says:
>
>
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Aircraft_Wiring_For_Smart_People_Review
ed.pdf
>
> Reg,
> Fred F.
>
>
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