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1. 06:32 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Lock Mono wheel trailer (SPurpura@aol.com)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Lock Mono wheel trailer (Steve Crimm)
3. 11:46 AM - Cradle for Fuselage (David Simenauer)
4. 01:39 PM - Re: Cradle for Fuselage (Steve Hagar)
5. 01:59 PM - Re: Cradle for Fuselage (Fred R. Klein)
6. 03:44 PM - Re: Cradle for Fuselage (Rowland Carson)
7. 04:05 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Lock Mono wheel trailer (SPurpura@aol.com)
8. 05:07 PM - Re: Cradle for Fuselage (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
9. 05:25 PM - TP12 drive plates (Graham Singleton)
10. 07:22 PM - WARNING - Cradle for Fuselage (Fergus Kyle)
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Lock Mono wheel trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
I MADE MINE FROM AN ALUMINUM 3" I-BEAM,NOTCHED OUT & HELD DOWN WITH A PIP
PIN. SAM N77EU
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| Subject: | Tail Wheel Lock Mono wheel trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Sam,
Do you have any pictures of how you did the pip pin to lock it in place.
Steve
N15JN
A058
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tail Wheel Lock Mono wheel trailer
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
I MADE MINE FROM AN ALUMINUM 3" I-BEAM,NOTCHED OUT & HELD DOWN WITH A PIP
PIN. SAM N77EU
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| Subject: | Cradle for Fuselage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Simenauer" <dsimenauer@cox.net>
I was wondering what suggestions and recommendations are out there for building
a cradle for the fuselage. Other than a trial and error method I can't think
of a way to copy the curvature of the bottom of the fuselage.
Thanks
Dave Simenauer
A101
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| Subject: | Cradle for Fuselage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Dave:
Pick three positions on your fuselage bottom where you want your boat
supported at. If building monowheel be sure to clear the wheel wheel
opening and leave it hanging out front. Make three layups on the fuselage
bottom. Form one edge of the fiberglass up 90 degrees to make a "fin" to
give it some rigidity when you pull it off of the fuselage. When off of
the fuselage trace the profile on 3 pieces of plywood to make saddles. Cut
with a saber saw. Use your fiberglass layups to bond to the edge of the
plywood to make pads for the fuselage. Weld up a frame out of 1" square
tube to clamp the saddles to. Adjust the saddles as needed to level the
boat. I actually screwed the fuselage to the saddle pads to pull the
fuselage straight. My cradle now has a second user down in Tucson.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa AZ
> [Original Message]
> From: David Simenauer <dsimenauer@cox.net>
> To: Europa Forum <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 11/13/2004 12:45:25 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Cradle for Fuselage
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Simenauer" <dsimenauer@cox.net>
>
> I was wondering what suggestions and recommendations are out there for
building a cradle for the fuselage. Other than a trial and error method I
can't think of a way to copy the curvature of the bottom of the fuselage.
>
> Thanks
> Dave Simenauer
> A101
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle for Fuselage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
on 11/13/04 11:45 AM, David Simenauer at dsimenauer@cox.net wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Simenauer" <dsimenauer@cox.net>
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> I was wondering what suggestions and recommendations are out there for
> building a cradle for the fuselage. Other than a trial and error method I
> can't think of a way to copy the curvature of the bottom of the fuselage.
>
> Thanks
> Dave Simenauer
> A101
>
Dave,
One relatively simple cradle design is shown and explained at Chuck
Popenoe's website, http://members.bellatlantic.net/~cpops/index.html
I've heard others who've duplicated it sing its praises.
Fred
A194
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle for Fuselage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004-11-13 14:45 -0500 David Simenauer wrote:
>I was wondering what suggestions and recommendations are out there
>for building a cradle for the fuselage. Other than a trial and
>error method I can't think of a way to copy the curvature of the
>bottom of the fuselage.
Dave - several people have made fuselage supports and published their methods.
Some of them (including Roger Sheridan's measurements of the factory
version) are collected among the various other goodies on the Europa
Club CD-ROM.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Lock Mono wheel trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
STEVE, THE I-BEAM FITS OVER THE CHANNEL ON THE TRAILER THAT THE TAILWHEEL
RIDES IN,THE 4" PIP PIN GOES THRU BOTH OF THESE AND TENSION FROM THE WINCH KEEPS
IT ALL SECURE. HOPE THIS HELPS, SAM N77EU
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle for Fuselage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Hi Dave.
I used large cardboard sheet trimmed to fit the inside of my fuselage at the
necessary stations. Take a look at the photos on my build site below.
Brian S
A276 Tri Gear. Texas
See my build photos at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | TP12 drive plates |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 12/11/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>In my naivity, I'm sitting w/ a pair of the 3/8" pins thinking that I simply
>would have to upsize the 1/4" holes w/ a simple drill and that would be
>that.
>
>Anyone out there: How have you handled the TP12 mod?
>
>Fred
Fred
drill undersize by about 15 thou, then ream out to slight undersize.
Measure the pins first and find a metric or letter reamer the size you
need. Reamer bored about 1/2 thou over it's own size.Pete Churms' pins were
exact to size. The reamer size we used is lost in the dark corners of my
brain ?:-[
The job needs to be done with the tube firmly clamped to a decent machine.
Don't try it by hand, it will be expensive, cheaper to buy a drill stand!
BTW it took about 1 1/2 hours to get the tubes out of the completed
fuselage, much longer to get them back! We used a Dremel cut off wheel to
get the split pins out. No body had to crawl down the hell hole.
Graham
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| Subject: | WARNING - Cradle for Fuselage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Cheers,
A word of warning :
I am taking my time, I admit, and left the fuselage cradled for over a year.
I had made a collapsible cradle and the forms were cut from 1/2inch plywood.
When it came time to lift the fuse out, I found indentations wherever the
fuselage sat - and have had to fill same in prep for painting.
Don't leave the fuse in for long before checking for dents.
Ferg
A064
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From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Cradle for Fuselage
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
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| Dave:
|
| Pick three positions on your fuselage bottom where you want your boat
| supported at. If building monowheel be sure to clear the wheel wheel
| opening and leave it hanging out front. Make three layups on the fuselage
| bottom. Form one edge of the fiberglass up 90 degrees to make a "fin" to
| give it some rigidity when you pull it off of the fuselage. When off of
| the fuselage trace the profile on 3 pieces of plywood to make saddles.
Cut
| with a saber saw. Use your fiberglass layups to bond to the edge of the
| plywood to make pads for the fuselage. Weld up a frame out of 1" square
| tube to clamp the saddles to. Adjust the saddles as needed to level the
| boat. I actually screwed the fuselage to the saddle pads to pull the
| fuselage straight. My cradle now has a second user down in Tucson.
|
| Steve Hagar
| A143
| Mesa AZ
|
|
| > [Original Message]
| > From: David Simenauer <dsimenauer@cox.net>
| > To: Europa Forum <europa-list@matronics.com>
| > Date: 11/13/2004 12:45:25 PM
| > Subject: Europa-List: Cradle for Fuselage
| >
| > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Simenauer"
<dsimenauer@cox.net>
| >
| > I was wondering what suggestions and recommendations are out there for
| building a cradle for the fuselage. Other than a trial and error method I
| can't think of a way to copy the curvature of the bottom of the fuselage.
| >
| > Thanks
| > Dave Simenauer
| > A101
| >
| >
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