---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/01/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:04 AM - Oh So Many Great Comments... (Matt Dralle) 2. 02:01 AM - Re: Contacting the New Europa (Richard Holder) 3. 01:34 PM - Re: Contacting the New Europa (Jeremy Davey) 4. 03:52 PM - Re: nose wheel 9 KG force (s.vestuti) 5. 08:28 PM - Vertical Card Compass (JEFF ROBERTS) 6. 08:44 PM - Re: Vertical Card Compass (Cliff Shaw) 7. 09:11 PM - Re: Vertical Card Compass (David DeFord) 8. 11:43 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:35 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Oh So Many Great Comments... --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, As I write this its still November 30th so technically the List Fund Raiser is still underway! :-) I've gotten so many nice comments from Listers in the last couple of days along with their Contributions that I just had to share them with the Lists. Guys, I really appreciate the kind words and great support that has come in the last few days. If you've been meaning to support your Lists this month but have just been putting it off until the last absolute minute, now's a perfect time to make that Contribution! http://www.matronics.com/contribution A special thank you to everyone that has already shown their support. I'm compiling the List of Contributors and will post it in a couple days. In the meantime, please read over some of the nice things people have been saying about the List along with their Contribution... Thank you!!! Matt Dralle List Administrator -------------- A Ton More Nice Comments ---------------- The number of times I've used the list (especially the archives) to answer a question I have definitely makes my contribution worth it. Jordan G. This list sure paves the way to a smoother building process. Tim B. Really enjoy the list and look forward to it every day. Darren F. Love the list, great diversion at work... 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This list is a valuable tool for me. Grant F. ...such a valuable resource. Kevin B. Really enjoy the List... Michael W. ...such a great tool! John L. I have been done building my plane for three years now. I still get valuable information from this List. Don N. Better than the soaps at times! Jerry I. Thanks for a huge archive of information. Paul D. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Contacting the New Europa From: Richard Holder --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder >> Do you have a television? The reason I ask is a friend of mine bought one on >> EBay and never received it. I'm sure you care about that, too, and I'd offer >> him mine but I've only got one. I know you Americans have multiple TVs in >> your houses, so I was wondering if you would be so kind as to send him one of >> yours? He's not well off, so I'm afraid he cant pay you for it, but I'm sure >> that won't be a problem. >> >> Regards, Jeremy >> > Dear Jeremy, I would be glade to send your friend a TV. After all I even have > one in my shop to keep me company on the long build hours. I may even have 7 > or 8 in the house as I do take advantage of the free enterprise system here in > America. So see if he needs an extra. I would be glad to oblige. > > Jeff A258 > > PS. Send me his address direct off forum. Maybe we can get it on the next > container. Nice idea chaps but US TVs don't work here in Blighty ! :-) in case I get slagged off again :-) Richard Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS) Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax) Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile) SG12 8SH email : richard.holder@avnet.co.uk ++++++++ Please note new email address ++++++++ Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:34:16 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Contacting the New Europa --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Thanks, Jeff :-) He's looking for a 52" plasma box with integrated Sky Digital, NTSC would be nice, but PAL is essential. Is that a problem? I'm sure you understand the point I'm trying to make. I wish there was something I could do to help LMorgan, Kim Bull & co., but apart from offering my surplus kit parts, there's little I can do. That said, I'm afraid my email was rather out of date by the time it got to the list - for some reasons half-a-dozen emails have been hiding somewhere and decided to release themselves to the world in the early hours of the morning. By the time it did get out there, the point had been debated thoroughly and was rather stale. Oh well... The joys of technology... Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation. Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1225 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Contacting the New Europa --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS On Nov 29, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Jeremy Davey wrote: > Do you have a television? The reason I ask is a friend of mine bought > one on > EBay and never received it. I'm sure you care about that, too, and I'd > offer > him mine but I've only got one. I know you Americans have multiple TVs > in > your houses, so I was wondering if you would be so kind as to send him > one > of yours? He's not well off, so I'm afraid he cant pay you for it, but > I'm > sure that won't be a problem. > > Regards, > Jeremy Dear Jeremy, I would be glade to send your friend a TV. After all I even have one in my shop to keep me company on the long build hours. I may even have 7 or 8 in the house as I do take advantage of the free enterprise system here in America. So see if he needs an extra. I would be glad to oblige. Jeff A258 PS. Send me his address direct off forum. Maybe we can get it on the next container. > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:31 PM PST US From: "s.vestuti" Subject: Re: Europa-List: nose wheel 9 KG force --> Europa-List message posted by: "s.vestuti" many thanks danny & nev , i new there would be a simple answer ! as regards the fishing scales , is there a formula for removing the built in exageration ? cheers ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:19 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Europa-List: Vertical Card Compass --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS I have a place in my panel where I was planning to put a vertical card compass to the right top of the flight instruments but not in the radio stack area. I heard today from a reliable source that should know that they will not work in the panel because of the electronic equipment. I will not be using a gyro DG so I thought this would allow me to see the full 360 that I've been use to. Has anyone been able to use a VC compass in the Europa panel anywhere, or will I have to mount it above somewhere for it to be accurate enough. Thanks in advance, Jeff A258 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:34 PM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Vertical Card Compass --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Jeff I did not chose that kind of compass. I had the advantage of seeing how the vertical compass did NOT work in Bob's Europa. I recommend installing a regular compass hanging from the overhead at the windshield. That is what I did and it works very well. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 A229 N229WC Subject: Europa-List: Vertical Card Compass Has anyone been able to use a VC > compass in the Europa panel anywhere, or will I have to mount it above > somewhere for it to be accurate enough. > > Thanks in advance, > Jeff > A258 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:35 PM PST US From: "David DeFord" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Vertical Card Compass --> Europa-List message posted by: "David DeFord" > --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS > > I have a place in my panel where I was planning to put a > vertical card > compass to the right top of the flight instruments but not in > the radio > stack area. I heard today from a reliable source that should > know that > they will not work in the panel because of the electronic > equipment. I > will not be using a gyro DG so I thought this would allow me > to see the > full 360 that I've been use to. Has anyone been able to use a VC > compass in the Europa panel anywhere, or will I have to mount > it above > somewhere for it to be accurate enough. We mounted a vertical card compass in the panel area above the gear retract lever, and it has worked just fine. Our maximum deviation on the compass card is only a few degrees. We did make an effort to keep magnetic hardware and wiring away from the compass. It is easy to see the effect of a magnetic object (e.g., a steel screw) by moving it around the compass at the expected distance. The disturbance varies greatly with angular position at a constant distance from the compass. Dave DeFord N135TD (flying, 400 hrs.) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:33 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Lister, Please read over the Europa-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Europa-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Europa-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Europa-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Europa-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. 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