Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 12/05/04


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 03:11 AM - RE : Speaking of landing lights. (mau11)
     2. 06:08 AM - Re: Speaking of landing lights. (Vaughn Teegarden)
     3. 08:24 AM - panel drawings [was: Speaking of landing lights] (Rowland Carson)
     4. 08:42 AM - EuropaOwners.org (SteveD)
     5. 09:23 AM - RE : panel drawings [was: Speaking of landing lights] (mau11)
     6. 09:57 AM - CHT - Grand Rapids EIS (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
     7. 10:34 AM - SV: Europa's flange mod (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
     8. 03:33 PM - Re: RE : Speaking of landing lights. (N55XS)
     9. 03:34 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (N55XS)
    10. 03:48 PM - Re: SV: Europa's flange mod (RK Hallett III)
    11. 03:58 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (Fred R. Klein)
    12. 04:31 PM - Cockpit heating (Paul McAllister)
    13. 04:55 PM - Re: Cockpit heating (David DeFord)
    14. 05:15 PM - Re: Cockpit heating (SteveD)
    15. 06:09 PM - Re: Cockpit heating (Richard Sementilli)
    16. 06:14 PM - glider wings  (kenneth b. carpenter)
    17. 06:20 PM - Re: Cockpit heating (Jos Okhuijsen)
    18. 06:48 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (N55XS)
    19. 07:28 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (Fred R. Klein)
    20. 07:41 PM - Re: Cockpit heating (David DeFord)
    21. 08:23 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (Fred R. Klein)
    22. 09:14 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (Brad Newell)
    23. 10:58 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (R.C.Harrison)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:11:58 AM PST US
    From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
    Subject: Speaking of landing lights.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> Hello Jeff, I have 240 hours with my classic monowheel all is perfect. I have an idea to rebuilt my panel, because the intervention on the pannel is very difficult. Do you have scale 1 file of separable panels front faces Left side and Right radio side? DXF or DWG format or any other format file. Thank. --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de N55XS Envoy : dimanche 5 dcembre 2004 02:42 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Europa-List: Speaking of landing lights. --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Can anyone tell me how they aimed their landing lights? I'm about ready to adjust them, but have no idea as to the angle to set them at. Any help would be appreciated... -- Jeff - A055 - Windscreen and panel in... Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 06:08:46 AM PST US
    From: "Vaughn Teegarden" <a191mono@starband.net>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of landing lights.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <a191mono@starband.net> Good morning Michel, You might find these sites interesting if you are planning panel work: http://www.experimentalair.com/products.html http://www.epanelbuilder.com/ Vaughn ----- Original Message ----- From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> Subject: RE : Europa-List: Speaking of landing lights. > --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> > > Hello Jeff, > I have 240 hours with my classic monowheel all is perfect. > I have an idea to rebuilt my panel, because the intervention on the > pannel is very difficult. > > Do you have scale 1 file of separable panels front faces Left side and > Right radio side? DXF or DWG format or any other format file. > Thank. > > --|-- > --------(*)-------- > > Michel AUVRAY > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de N55XS > Envoy : dimanche 5 dcembre 2004 02:42 > : europa-list@matronics.com > Objet : Europa-List: Speaking of landing lights. > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> > > Can anyone tell me how they aimed their landing lights? I'm about ready > > to adjust them, but have no idea as to the angle to set them at. Any > help would be appreciated... > > -- > Jeff - A055 - Windscreen and panel in... > Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:24:38 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: panel drawings [was: Speaking of landing lights]
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2004-12-05 12:06 +0100 mau11 wrote: >I have an idea to rebuilt my panel, because the intervention on the >pannel is very difficult. > >Do you have scale 1 file of separable panels front faces Left side and >Right radio side? DXF or DWG format or any other format file Michel - I have measured and plotted all 3 areas of my monowheel panel and can let you have the results as .DXF files. Is that of any use? Let me know if you want copies of the files. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/> | 740 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>


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    Time: 08:42:10 AM PST US
    Subject: EuropaOwners.org
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    2.60 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Hi all, The EuropaOwners Forum has a new Web address: http://forum.okhuijsen.org/ is now http://www.EuropaOwners.org/ Some security issues with the software forced me to jackup the users list and change all the code under it for the Forum. I tried very hard to make everything look like and act like it did before. I've added some new features also. A real download section, Calendar, and a links page. Anywho all the code is brand new if you find any bugs or problems, please let me know. Once again I'd like to thank Jos for giving us the server space and paying for the new URL, and Teemu for his help moving and rebuilding the site. Thanks, Guys! Steved I've got a snowbirds hanger for the next four months. I'm moving the project today. No more setting and leveling in the driveway for 30 minutes, working for 40 until its dark and packing everything back in the garage. Just drive to the airport go in the hanger and work... :D ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 09:23:49 AM PST US
    From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
    Subject: panel drawings [was: Speaking of landing lights]
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> OK Rowland, I compare with my panel and I send files to you. what you prefer DXF or DWG? --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Rowland Carson Envoy : dimanche 5 dcembre 2004 17:12 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Europa-List: panel drawings [was: Speaking of landing lights] --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2004-12-05 12:06 +0100 mau11 wrote: >I have an idea to rebuilt my panel, because the intervention on the >pannel is very difficult. > >Do you have scale 1 file of separable panels front faces Left side and >Right radio side? DXF or DWG format or any other format file Michel - I have measured and plotted all 3 areas of my monowheel panel and can let you have the results as .DXF files. Is that of any use? Let me know if you want copies of the files. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/> | 740 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>


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    Time: 09:57:35 AM PST US
    From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
    Subject: CHT - Grand Rapids EIS
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no> All, My Rotax 912S has one CHT sender in each of cyl. 2 and 3, installed by Rotax. My Grand Rapids EIS came with 4 ring-shaped thermocouples to place under one spark plug on each cylinder. What have others done, having the same GRT EIS - are you using the 2 factory installed CHT senders or the 4 that came from GRT, or are they all to be used somehow? Regards, Svein A225 - now in Norway


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    Time: 10:34:51 AM PST US
    From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
    Subject: Europa's flange mod
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no> On Saturday, I praised the cowling flange mod mentionded in Europa News 4 years ago. A reader asked: >What is the Europa's flange mod? I'm rapidly getting to that point of the build.< For those not having that old issue of Europa News, I quote the description below. As it is not possible to send attachments, I hope the below "sketch" will suffice to replace the drawing accompanying Europa's text. It will perhaps be more clear if you draw one line through all the "u"s (upper cowling half), one line through all the "l"s (lower cowling half) and one line through all the "a"s (additional flange) (55 years since I last did this - remember the childrens' drawing books!). u u u a u a u a OUTSIDE u l a INSIDE u l a u l a l l l l quote As called up in the build manual, a total of 19 bolts are used with which to fasten the upper cowling to the aircraft. Adding a glassfibre flange to the inside of the upper cowling will enable you to reduce the number of bolts required down to 11. The additional flange holds the two cowlings together and prevents "quilting" or bulging between where the bolts are. To make the flange, tape the two cowlings halves together and set them such that you can get access to the inside. Scuff sand the upeer cowling where you will be laying up the glassfibre flange and apply some adhesive backed plastic tape to the lower cowling flange to act as a release agent. Lay-up two 3 bid strips at +-45 degr, about 1 m long and 5 cm (2") wide. Apply each strip to overlap half on the upper cowling and half on the lower cowling flange and allow to cure. Turning the edge of the flange away from the lower cowling will aid fitting the two cowlings together but it's not essential. The flange should be interrupted where the fasteners are on the joint line. Dimensions are measured around the cowling's perimeter. See below figure. unquote My substitute "sketch" )o = fastener): FRONT o 5" (127 mm) o 11" (280 mm) o 20" (508 mm) o REAR There must be misprint in the newsletter - the new number of fasteners will be 15, not 11, between the upper cowling and fuselage/lower cowling. You may wonder why all this effort to save just 4 bolts and fasteners. The main advantage is not this, but that you avoid the bulging - it is really significant if the new flange is not added. I did not figure out an easy way to make the edge turn away from the lower cowling, as called for in the above quote. Instead I cut the new flange back 5 mm after cure. I can then press gently on the outside of the upper cowling and it enters over the lower cowling. Another recommendation: When you apply the plastic tape to the lower cowling flange to act as a release agent, do this AFTER you have placed the two cowling halves together, and let the tape go 1-2 mm onto the upper cowling. This seals off the joint and no epoxy gets in between the two original flange surfaces and bond them together. If that should happen, it would not be easy to pry them apart after the new flange is made. I don't think tape will hold the two cowling halves nicely together, as the text suggests, with the tendency for the cowlings to bulge and mechanical stress when handling the thing during this work. I used thin self-tapping screws with washer head, placed where I intended to have the fasteners and some in between - easy to fill the holes later. Regards, Svein A225 - now in Norway


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    Time: 03:33:37 PM PST US
    From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of landing lights.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> mau11 wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> > >Hello Jeff, >I have 240 hours with my classic monowheel all is perfect. >I have an idea to rebuilt my panel, because the intervention on the >pannel is very difficult. > >Do you have scale 1 file of separable panels front faces Left side and >Right radio side? DXF or DWG format or any other format file. >Thank. > > > Michael, I see you've gotten assistance, already, however, if you still need help, let me know. I have my drawings in a format that can be converted to DXF, DWG, etc... -- Jeff - A055 Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 03:34:06 PM PST US
    From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Fred R. Klein wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> > > >Jeff, > >PS: Bill's phone # is 719-510-0854. > >Good luck, > >Fred > > > > Fred, thanks. Anyone else got any specifics on setting the angle? -- Jeff - A055 Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 03:48:32 PM PST US
    From: RK Hallett III <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Europa's flange mod
    --> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> Svein, Thanks very much for a beautiful description, a great job! Got it and will use it. Thanks, Ralph MG Reno, nv Sidsel & Svein Johnsen wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no> > > >On Saturday, I praised the cowling flange mod mentionded in Europa News 4 >years ago. A reader asked: > > >>What is the Europa's flange mod? I'm rapidly getting to that point of the >> >> >build.< > >For those not having that old issue of Europa News, I quote the description >below. As it is not possible to send attachments, I hope the below "sketch" >will suffice to replace the drawing accompanying Europa's text. It will >perhaps be more clear if you draw one line through all the "u"s (upper >cowling half), one line through all the "l"s (lower cowling half) and one >line through all the "a"s (additional flange) (55 years since I last did >this - remember the childrens' drawing books!). > > u > u > u a > u a > u a > OUTSIDE u l a INSIDE > u l a > u l a > l > l > l > l > >quote >As called up in the build manual, a total of 19 bolts are used with which to >fasten the upper cowling to the aircraft. Adding a glassfibre flange to the >inside of the upper cowling will enable you to reduce the number of bolts >required down to 11. > >The additional flange holds the two cowlings together and prevents >"quilting" or bulging between where the bolts are. To make the flange, tape >the two cowlings halves together and set them such that you can get access >to the inside. Scuff sand the upeer cowling where you will be laying up the >glassfibre flange and apply some adhesive backed plastic tape to the lower >cowling flange to act as a release agent. > >Lay-up two 3 bid strips at +-45 degr, about 1 m long and 5 cm (2") wide. >Apply each strip to overlap half on the upper cowling and half on the lower >cowling flange and allow to cure. Turning the edge of the flange away from >the lower cowling will aid fitting the two cowlings together but it's not >essential. > >The flange should be interrupted where the fasteners are on the joint line. >Dimensions are measured around the cowling's perimeter. See below figure. >unquote > >My substitute "sketch" )o = fastener): > FRONT o 5" (127 mm) o 11" (280 mm) o 20" (508 mm) >o REAR > >There must be misprint in the newsletter - the new number of fasteners will >be 15, not 11, between the upper cowling and fuselage/lower cowling. You >may wonder why all this effort to save just 4 bolts and fasteners. The main >advantage is not this, but that you avoid the bulging - it is really >significant if the new flange is not added. > >I did not figure out an easy way to make the edge turn away from the lower >cowling, as called for in the above quote. Instead I cut the new flange back >5 mm after cure. I can then press gently on the outside of the upper >cowling and it enters over the lower cowling. > >Another recommendation: When you apply the plastic tape to the lower >cowling flange to act as a release agent, do this AFTER you have placed the >two cowling halves together, and let the tape go 1-2 mm onto the upper >cowling. This seals off the joint and no epoxy gets in between the two >original flange surfaces and bond them together. If that should happen, it >would not be easy to pry them apart after the new flange is made. > >I don't think tape will hold the two cowling halves nicely together, as the >text suggests, with the tendency for the cowlings to bulge and mechanical >stress when handling the thing during this work. I used thin self-tapping >screws with washer head, placed where I intended to have the fasteners and >some in between - easy to fill the holes later. > >Regards, >Svein >A225 - now in Norway > > > >


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    Time: 03:58:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> on 12/5/04 3:31 PM, N55XS at topglock@cox.net wrote: > Fred, thanks. Anyone else got any specifics on setting the angle? Jeff, I know of no one else, thus far, who has opted for a wingtip landing light location. Perhaps there's a sage who can recommend a distance forward where one might want the two beams to converge?..though conceivably you could then do some triangulation and arrive at an angle, my hunch is that your adjustment will have to be done "in the field". Fred A194


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    Time: 04:31:28 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Cockpit heating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi Dave, Now that you have determined the source of carbon monoxide I have become interested in pursuing the idea of harvesting cabin heat from the air outlet. I was wondering how effective this is. Its so darn cold up here in Wisconsin that I have stopped flying the Europa. The biggest source of cold air is coming from the back though the control sticks and ends up blowing air on your thighs and it gets pretty miserable. If it wasn't for that I'd be able just wear a sweater and get by. I have just fixed my latest "aw shit". I had to remove the localizer antenna from the floor to the roof because it was getting shaded and I was losing the signal as I turned on to final. Anyway I was removing some fiberglass tape with a paint scraper and went straight through the side of the fuselage. Needless to say I was pretty irrigated, but its back from the paint shop and you would never know. Cheers, Paul


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    Time: 04:55:25 PM PST US
    From: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net>
    Subject: Cockpit heating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > Its so darn cold up here in Wisconsin > that I have stopped flying the Europa. The biggest source of > cold air is coming from the back though the control sticks > and ends up blowing air on your thighs and it gets pretty > miserable. If it wasn't for that I'd be able just wear a > sweater and get by. Paul, We had a similar problem until we installed the excellent leather boots around the stick pivots that are sold by the gentleman from New Zealand. (I have forgotten the contact details, now that our installation is done, but someone else will no doubt be able to supply them.) I know, our winters here in California are not like yours in Wisconsin, but it still gets pretty cold at 14000 feet when crossing the Sierras in January. Dave DeFord N135TD


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    Time: 05:15:59 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Cockpit heating
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    2.60 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Hi paul, Thanks for your note about the antenna, I've now installed mine on the roof. Even-though some of the early photos from the gallery show it on the floor. About the airflow from the aircraft empennage. I've seen reverse NACA scoops on some planes. I'm not sure if they would work, unless the hole just happened to be in a low pressure area. What I was thinking was to use the two vent scoops that come with the kit to make a convergent / divergent nozzle or educator, and try to make the empennage a low pressure area. I've built and use them at work but not for this application. Maybe I'll glass something up and do some car window wind tunnel testing. My luck it will whistle :) ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 06:09:02 PM PST US
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    From: Richard Sementilli <rsementi@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cockpit heating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Sementilli <rsementi@gmail.com> Dave - what engine do you have in your Europa? - Richard S. On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:54:47 -0800, David DeFord <davedeford@comcast.net> wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net> > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > > Its so darn cold up here in Wisconsin > > that I have stopped flying the Europa. The biggest source of > > cold air is coming from the back though the control sticks > > and ends up blowing air on your thighs and it gets pretty > > miserable. If it wasn't for that I'd be able just wear a > > sweater and get by. > > Paul, > > We had a similar problem until we installed the excellent leather boots > around the stick pivots that are sold by the gentleman from New Zealand. (I > have forgotten the contact details, now that our installation is done, but > someone else will no doubt be able to supply them.) I know, our winters > here in California are not like yours in Wisconsin, but it still gets pretty > cold at 14000 feet when crossing the Sierras in January. > > Dave DeFord > N135TD > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:14:20 PM PST US
    From: "kenneth b. carpenter" <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
    Subject: glider wings
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "kenneth b. carpenter" <kbcarpenter@comcast.net> did not have much interest in my glider wings at 25T so would anyone be interested in the finished wings, flown about 50 hours at $15,000. Ken Carpenter


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    Time: 06:20:10 PM PST US
    From: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
    Subject: Re: Cockpit heating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> One of the surprises i had while visiting flightcrafters (nice outfit, very nice people) was a cockpit heating system that they have. If i understand correctly it is in a kit they are willing to sell. It takes air from behind the oil cooler. Ask Bob Berube bberube@tampabay.rr.com for more information. I hope i don't spoil a secret.... Jos Okhuijsen


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    Time: 06:48:23 PM PST US
    From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Fred R. Klein wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> > >on 12/5/04 3:31 PM, N55XS at topglock@cox.net wrote: > > > >>Fred, thanks. Anyone else got any specifics on setting the angle? >> >> > >Jeff, > >I know of no one else, thus far, who has opted for a wingtip landing light >location. Perhaps there's a sage who can recommend a distance forward where >one might want the two beams to converge?..though conceivably you could then >do some triangulation and arrive at an angle, my hunch is that your >adjustment will have to be done "in the field". > >Fred >A194 > > > > Actually, the convergence I can probably handle. My main concern is the downward angle, ie: How far ahead of the aircraft should the beams hit the runway at a given altitude. If all else fails, it'll have to be best guess... By the way, you should be receiving the check for the clear tips in a day or two... -- Jeff - A055 Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 07:28:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> on 12/5/04 6:46 PM, N55XS at topglock@cox.net wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> > > > My main concern is the > downward angle, ie: How far ahead of the aircraft should the beams hit > the runway at a given altitude. If all else fails, it'll have to be > best guess... > > By the way, you should be receiving the check for the clear tips in a > day or two... Jeff, Perhaps someone will chime in with some experience w/ the tri-gear nose up attitude just prior to touchdown? Fred A194


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    Time: 07:41:39 PM PST US
    From: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net>
    Subject: Cockpit heating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Sementilli > --> <rsementi@gmail.com> > > Dave - what engine do you have in your Europa? - Richard S. 912S, with Airmaster prop. I take it you are asking because of my note about crossing mountains at 14000 feet. Climb rate is slow at this altitude, but we have never had a problem reaching any desired altitude (up to the 15500 I used in October, at about 1230lbs., when I wanted extra margin because of an ignition problem). Temperatures are well above standard over the mountains in the summer, so density altitudes are typically at least 1000 feet higher. Dave DeFord N135TD


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    Time: 08:23:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> on 12/5/04 6:46 PM, N55XS at topglock@cox.net wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> > > > Actually, the convergence I can probably handle. My main concern is the > downward angle, ie: How far ahead of the aircraft should the beams hit > the runway at a given altitude. If all else fails, it'll have to be > best guess... > > By the way, you should be receiving the check for the clear tips in a > day or two... Jeff, Food for thought: remember these puppies also serve during take-off. My experience w/ night ops w/ my Stinson...which has twin bulbs in the leading edge...has been that one bulb is angled to light the taxiway/runway w/ the tail "dragging" and one bulb is angled to light the runway w/ tail up during take-off accelleration. Fred A194


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    Time: 09:14:17 PM PST US
    From: "Brad Newell" <wendigo@olympus.net>
    Subject: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brad Newell" <wendigo@olympus.net> Have to admit that I have wondered about what to do for a landing light. I think that the best thing I've seen would be a couple of half-silvered lights like you see on some sailboats for a foredeck installation. They are small, with a very limited flare. Talking about angles and approach angles, remember, you're talking about landing a roller-skate; it doesn't take a lot of light from five feet in the air. For what it's worth, I always set up a collision course with the touchdown zone and then make some kind of a controlled crash modification in the last few seconds. Brad Newell -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred R. Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Speaking of landing lights --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> on 12/5/04 6:46 PM, N55XS at topglock@cox.net wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> > > > My main concern is the > downward angle, ie: How far ahead of the aircraft should the beams hit > the runway at a given altitude. If all else fails, it'll have to be > best guess... > > By the way, you should be receiving the check for the clear tips in a > day or two... Jeff, Perhaps someone will chime in with some experience w/ the tri-gear nose up attitude just prior to touchdown? Fred A194


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    Time: 10:58:17 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> Hi! If you get them right you can probably set them up to bust a dam like 617 squadron! Merry Christmas. Bob Harrison G-PTAG Food for thought: remember these puppies also serve during take-off. My experience w/ night ops w/ my Stinson...which has twin bulbs in the leading edge...has been that one bulb is angled to light the taxiway/runway w/ the tail "dragging" and one bulb is angled to light the runway w/ tail up during take-off accelleration. Fred A194 Do not archive.




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