Europa-List Digest Archive

Mon 12/06/04


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 02:16 AM - 2004 List of Contributors - A Special Thank You... (Matt Dralle)
     2. 02:59 AM - RE : RE : Speaking of landing lights. (mau11)
     3. 07:15 AM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (Ken Stribling)
     4. 09:18 AM - Turbo Surge (Erich Trombley)
     5. 09:23 AM - Re: Cockpit heating (Richard Sementilli)
     6. 09:25 AM - Re: glider wings (Richard Sementilli)
     7. 12:39 PM - Re: Cockpit heating (Tim Ward)
     8. 02:56 PM - Re: 914 turbo surge/Shoulderharness mounting (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
     9. 04:00 PM - Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights (N55XS)
    10. 06:19 PM - Re: glider wings ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:16:46 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: 2004 List of Contributors - A Special Thank You...
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, First let me say Thank You to everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! I was particularly touched by all of the wonderful comments people made regarding the Lists and how much they mean to them. As I have said many times before, running these Lists and creating the many new features is truly a labor of love. This is why your comments of support and appreciation have particular meaning for me. Your generosity during this time of List support only underscores the delightful sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. I would also once again like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ) who so generously supported this year's Fund Raiser with both free and substantially discounted merchandise!! Andy is truly one of a kind, and a superb businessman, and I cannot thank him enough for all that he's done! If you have any aircraft media needs in the near future, I would ask that you please give his great web site a look. Thanks again Andy, for all your support! And I would also like to thank Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises (www.kitlog.com) who has generously contributed free registered copies of his great Windows Kit Logging software called Kitlog Pro in support of this year's List Fund Raiser! Thank you, Paul! For those of you that selected this sweet gift, you should be receiving your Registration Key directly from Paul in the next week or so. And finally, below you will find the 2004 List of Contributors current as of 12/5/04! Have a look at the list of names there as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank you all enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! There are still a few of the various Free Gifts left, so please feel free to yet make your Contribution and get a great Free Gift to-boot! Once again, the URL for the Contributions web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks. I hope to have everything shipping out by the end of the month. Generally everything will go out via USPS, so be nice to your postman this month, he might be bringing you something fun! Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ------------------ 2004 List of Contributors --------------------- Aldrich, Scott Alexander, George Aller, Daniel Alley, Brian Amos, Paul Amundsen, Blair Anderson, Edward Anthony, Bruce Applefeld, Gerald Applegate, William Arbeitman, Gordon Archer, Matt Ashcraft, Keith Ashford, James Austin, Peter Ayers, Jim Babb, Tony Bahrns, Stan Bailey, Rick Baker, Jim Baker, Mike Baker, Owen Baker, Roger Baker, Victor Bakke, Bj%f8rn Baldwin, James Ballard, Jerry Ballenger, James Banes, John Banyai, Michael Barnes, Tom Barnett, W.Mark Barrie, Darwin Barter, Tom Basiliere, Rick Bates, Jr, Marcus BauerJr, Fred Bean, James Bean, Robert Beauchamp, Norm Beene, Kenneth Bell, Bruce Benjamin, Hal Benson, Lonn Benson, Lonnie Bergh, Dave Bernard, William Berner, Walter Bernier, Jim Bertelli, John Berthet, Andre Bertz, Gary Bettmeng, Rick Bezzard, Richard Bidle, Jerry Bieberdorf, Roger Bikle, Alan Bish, Dan Blackwell, Charles Blackwell, Jimmie Blake, James Boardman, Don Bockelman, David Boetto, Steve Bonds, Kevin Boothe, Gary Booze, George Borger, Robert Borne, Chuck Bothe, Andreas Boucher, Michel Boulet, Paul Bourne, Larry Bowden, Terry Bowen, Larry Bowhay, Eustance Bowman, John Boyd, Don Boyer, James Brame, Charles Brandt, Leroy Branscomb, Warren Brasch, Glenn Breckenridge, Bruce Brick, John Briggs, Tracy Brooks, John Brooks, Sterling Broom, Richard Brown, David Brown, Ken Brown, Kent Brown, Robert Brunke, John Bryan, Mark Bryan, Tim Bryant, Geoff Buchanan, Guy Buchanan, Sam Buchmann, Kenneth Buehlmann, Peter Buess, Alfred Bullock, Jack Burden, Ronald Burke, James Burnett, Ron Burns, Mark Burrill, Phil Burton, Charlie Burton, James Butcher, Jim Butcher, Ron Butler, Francis Butler, Sherman Butler, Thomas Butterfield, John Buyse, Lieven Caldwell, Lapsley Calloway, Terry Cann, Robert Cannon, Paul Cantrell, Jimmy Cantrell, Kenneth Capen, Ralph Capra, Salvatore Carlton, Raymond Carpenter, Kenneth Carroll, Randy Carter, David Carter, Howard Cary, William Celestre, Rich Challgren, Stanley Chambers, Leslie Chandler, Rick Chatham, Bob Chenoweth, William Chevaillier, Mason Ciolino, John Clark, James Clark, John Clay, Dennis Clayton, James Clement, Jim Clyma, Frank Coalwell, Timothy Cochran, Stewart Cockrell, Alan Coggins, Mickey Cole, Gary Cole, Gerry Collins, Bob Colucci, Tony Combs, Doyle Compton, Scott Condrey, Bob Conkling, J.Michael Connell, Joseph Conrad, Gerald Constant, Jeremy Cook, Craig Cook, Doug Cooley, John Cooper, James Copeland, Garrett Corbalis, .Leo Corbett, Claude Corder, Michael Corner, Jim Corriveau, Grant Cottingham, Richard Cottrell, Larry Coursey, William Courtney, James Cox, JimL. 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    Time: 02:59:40 AM PST US
    From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
    Subject: Speaking of landing lights.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> Hi Jeff, I am interested by file front face panel. Any format is ok for me dxf,dwg or other. Thanks --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de N55XS Envoy : lundi 6 dcembre 2004 00:31 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: RE : Europa-List: Speaking of landing lights. --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> mau11 wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> > >Hello Jeff, >I have 240 hours with my classic monowheel all is perfect. >I have an idea to rebuilt my panel, because the intervention on the >pannel is very difficult. > >Do you have scale 1 file of separable panels front faces Left side and >Right radio side? DXF or DWG format or any other format file. Thank. > > > Michael, I see you've gotten assistance, already, however, if you still need help, let me know. I have my drawings in a format that can be converted to DXF, DWG, etc... -- Jeff - A055 Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 07:15:11 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Stribling" <ken@striblingranch.com>
    Subject: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling" <ken@striblingranch.com> On my RV I adjusted the lights on the ground to hit 75-100 ft ahead of me. On the europa I plan to start of with them hitting the ground 10-20 foot ahead of the plane. The RV is at a landing angle where the lights don't even come close to hitting the runway on the final flare. Ken -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N55XS Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Speaking of landing lights --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Fred R. Klein wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> > >on 12/5/04 3:31 PM, N55XS at topglock@cox.net wrote: > > > >>Fred, thanks. Anyone else got any specifics on setting the angle? >> >> > >Jeff, > >I know of no one else, thus far, who has opted for a wingtip landing light >location. Perhaps there's a sage who can recommend a distance forward where >one might want the two beams to converge?..though conceivably you could then >do some triangulation and arrive at an angle, my hunch is that your >adjustment will have to be done "in the field". > >Fred >A194 > > > > Actually, the convergence I can probably handle. My main concern is the downward angle, ie: How far ahead of the aircraft should the beams hit the runway at a given altitude. If all else fails, it'll have to be best guess... By the way, you should be receiving the check for the clear tips in a day or two... -- Jeff - A055 Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 09:18:50 AM PST US
    From: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
    Subject: Turbo Surge
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com> Graham, Sorry to hear about your incident. I wish you a speedy recovery. I have been flying my Europa Monowheel with a 914 for almost 200 hours. I am pleased to report that I have not experienced turbo surge. I do have the requisite turbo kill switch on the panel directly in front of the control column. All the best, Erich Trombley N28ET Dear Forum, > Has anyone out there experienced the "turbo surge on startup" that > Rotax > say can occur, and for which they specify a kill switch within reach? > The reason for the question is as follows:- > On 14 Nov 04 I aborted a takeoff , as the engine did something I have > never > before experienced, in 100 hrs. At only half throttle, on T/O run, I > suddenly felt full power, and was airborne very quickly. Airmaster > prop was > on fine, and I did not note MP. A few seconds later the power dropped > back > again, I suspect to the throttle setting. At no time did the engine > misfire, > and all checks had been normal. I elected to land straight ahead, and > it all > would have been a non-event, except for the cane-drain that I had > forgotten > about. These drains criss-cross the sugarcane fields here, about 2-3 m > wide, > 1-2 m deep. One of these crossed the runoff area at the end of the > runway. I > over-ran the runway, wet grass, so braking and groundloop not very > effective, hitting the drain at I guess 15-20 Kts. The nose of the A/C > impacted the far bank, then slid upwards about 60-70 cm, ie low speed, > but > significant decelleration. > My injuries included a compression fracture of the first lumbar > vertebra, > unstable, and one fragment was displaced rearward 5 mm, compressing the > thecal sac. Some very clever surgery involved removal of the body of > the L1 > vertebra, along with the discs above and below, and replacing them > with a > titanium cage, which contained the bone graft, which will hopefully > fuse > three vertebrae into one.It was pure good fortune that the injury did > not > result in paraplegia, and hopefully I can expect full recovery. I was > wearing the standard 4 point harness, and suffered no other significant > injuries . I am aware this was the subject of discussion earlier - > whether > the harness as designed promotes compression fractures. That is another > topic. > Back from hospital 2 days, so have not inspected the A/C yet, but can > say > the prop has one blade broken off near the hub, the windscreen is > split, so > I suspect some damage in the firewall area. > In musing over what happened, I suspect that I experienced turbo > surge, and > that the "faltering" was simply the end of the surge. If that were the > case, > I would probably have been OK to kill the turbo, and continue the T/O > without it. There would have been plenty of power. > Has anyone experienced anything similar? ( the engine behavior, I > mean. I do > not wish the back experience on anyone!) > Graham Higgins, in Oz > Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give


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    Time: 09:23:35 AM PST US
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    From: Richard Sementilli <rsementi@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cockpit heating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Sementilli <rsementi@gmail.com> Yes, you guessed right. I don't intend to do it everyday but I do have ambitions to cross mountains it the future. Thanks. RS On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:40:48 -0800, David DeFord <davedeford@comcast.net> wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net> > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Sementilli > > --> <rsementi@gmail.com> > > > > Dave - what engine do you have in your Europa? - Richard S. > > 912S, with Airmaster prop. I take it you are asking because of my note > about crossing mountains at 14000 feet. Climb rate is slow at this > altitude, but we have never had a problem reaching any desired altitude (up > to the 15500 I used in October, at about 1230lbs., when I wanted extra > margin because of an ignition problem). Temperatures are well above > standard over the mountains in the summer, so density altitudes are > typically at least 1000 feet higher. > > Dave DeFord > N135TD > > > > > >


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    From: Richard Sementilli <rsementi@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: glider wings
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Sementilli <rsementi@gmail.com> Ken - where are you located? RS On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:12:51 -0500, kenneth b. carpenter <kbcarpenter@comcast.net> wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "kenneth b. carpenter" <kbcarpenter@comcast.net> > > did not have much interest in my glider wings at 25T so would anyone be interested in the finished wings, flown about 50 hours at $15,000. > Ken Carpenter > > >


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    Time: 12:39:41 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Cockpit heating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz >> Paul, >> >> We had a similar problem until we installed the excellent leather boots >> around the stick pivots that are sold by the gentleman from New Zealand. >> (I >> have forgotten the contact details, now that our installation is done, >> but >> someone else will no doubt be able to supply them.) That's me. Tim Ward from down-under where it can get COLD and the Control Column Leather Boots are just the answer!! If you require a pair please email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz and visit; http://www.crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk/Misc/boots.htm Cheers, Tim > > >


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    Time: 02:56:09 PM PST US
    From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: 914 turbo surge/Shoulderharness mounting
    --> Europa-List message posted by: > significant decelleration. > My injuries included a compression fracture of the first lumbar vertebra, > unstable, and one fragment was displaced rearward 5 mm, compressing the > thecal sac. Some very clever surgery involved removal of the body of the > L1 > vertebra, along with the discs above and below, and replacing them with a > titanium cage, which contained the bone graft, which will hopefully fuse > three vertebrae into one.It was pure good fortune that the injury did not > result in paraplegia, and hopefully I can expect full recovery. I was > wearing the standard 4 point harness, and suffered no other significant > injuries . I am aware this was the subject of discussion earlier - whether > the harness as designed promotes compression fractures. That is another > topic. Hi Graham. Sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience. I hope you will recover fully and be able to get your bird airworthy again. What prompts these words are your description of your injuries in relation to the design of the 4 point harness. I seem to remember a discussion on the forum some time ago which dealt with the wisdom of a shoulder harness looping around the shoulders and down on the back side of the headrest - thus creating a downward force on the body in case of a sudden stop. The longer your back stretches up - the more pronounced this force will be. Your descriptions of the compression fracture on the first lumbar vertebra leading to quite severe damage in this fragile part of the body clearly indicate that such a downward force may have caused it. I have for a long time questioned this particular way of mounting the shoulderharness - even more as it does not comply to recommended procedures set forth in the JAR technical documents (or, for all I know, in FAA recommendations). I seem to remember that the harness should not be routed below a line going straight back from the shoulders (the angle not to be less than 90 degrees to a line along your spine) , but may be orientated upwards by a certain degree. I don't have access to this document now and cannot confirm the figures. Nearing the end to my build - I have still to mount mine, and am considering hardpoints in the baggage comp. ceiling where to fasten the harnesses. Are there others out there who have done it this way ? - Any viewpoints please ? Again: I hope you will soon be better, Graham! Regards, Hans Danielsen, #334 in Norway


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    Time: 04:00:04 PM PST US
    From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: FW: Speaking of landing lights
    --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Ken Stribling wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling" <ken@striblingranch.com> > >On my RV I adjusted the lights on the ground to hit 75-100 ft ahead of >me. On the europa I plan to start of with them hitting the ground 10-20 >foot ahead of the plane. The RV is at a landing angle where the lights >don't even come close to hitting the runway on the final flare. > >Ken > > > That's more in line with what I was thinking. I think I'll give that a try. Thanks for the input... -- Jeff - A055 Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 06:19:06 PM PST US
    From: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: glider wings
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net> Located USA Knoxville, TN ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Sementilli" <rsementi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: glider wings > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Sementilli <rsementi@gmail.com> > > Ken - where are you located? > RS > > > On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:12:51 -0500, kenneth b. carpenter > <kbcarpenter@comcast.net> wrote: >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "kenneth b. carpenter" >> <kbcarpenter@comcast.net> >> >> did not have much interest in my glider wings at 25T so would anyone be >> interested in the finished wings, flown about 50 hours at $15,000. >> Ken Carpenter >> >> >> > > >




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