Europa-List Digest Archive

Thu 12/09/04


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 01:46 AM - website for map of UK aerodromes? (Sean O'Reilly)
     2. 05:39 AM - Bonding on top (Graham Singleton)
     3. 08:38 AM - Lightning strike (John & Paddy Wigney)
     4. 09:06 AM - Harness attach point? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
     5. 09:18 AM - Re: Bonding on top (John & Paddy Wigney)
     6. 11:45 AM - Re: Bonding on top (Fergus Kyle)
     7. 04:12 PM - Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank (Tony Renshaw)
     8. 04:16 PM - Re: website for map of UK aerodromes? (Duncan McFadyean)
     9. 04:23 PM - Re: Harness attach point? (Duncan McFadyean)
    10. 04:30 PM - Re: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank (Tony Krzyzewski)
    11. 08:07 PM - Re: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank (Kingsley Hurst)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:46:53 AM PST US
    From: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com>
    Subject: website for map of UK aerodromes?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com> Apologies in advance to non-UK readers (unless you are able to help of course!) Is anyone aware of a website setting out UK GA airfields in map form (with AD specific info if required)? Many thanks and compliments of the season, Sean O'Reilly Reigate, Surrey Newish owner of G-BWWB (ex Mike Dolphin)


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    Time: 05:39:55 AM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Bonding on top
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> At 23:56 08/12/2004 -0800, Europa-List Digest Server wrote: >The short answer: You do as much as you possibly can. > >The long answer: All the stuff in the build manual plus: antennas; >comm, nav, transponder and the coax to support them; fuel pump wiring; >stabilator trim wiring; lighting wiring, if installed; Battery, master >relay, relay wiring and battery cables, if installed in back; electric >flap wiring, if a tri-gear; ELT wiring, if installed behind bulkhead; >ventilation, if you go that route; fuel drains, if installed as per >Europa Factory Mod 33. As much other wiring as you can. > >I installed Bob Archer antennas. Comm antenna in the tail Ken you do everything that Bob said plus:-- fit tailplane travel limit stops and adjust tailplane deflections. This job is a brute with the top on. Go for 5 deg nose down and 13 nose up. It's also worth setting up the aileron and flap deflections too. Fit the sternpost in the bottom half, cleco on the top then set up the rudder. You should be using a pushrod (the Classic was done this way, I sell the bits to do it) for the rudder not the cables which have the capability to pull the bracket off if the pilot panics and pushes hard on both pedals. (Happened once) Graham Graham


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    Time: 08:38:53 AM PST US
    From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Lightning strike
    --> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net> Hi Paul, Thanks for the nice write up regarding your lightning strike experience. I am happy that your hit was not more serious. It reminded me of a veteran pilot I met who was talking about mountain flying. Someone asked him how close one should fly to thunderstorms. His reply was instantaneous, "20 miles." He had been in the USAF and had obviously been through the school of hard knocks like yourself. Cheers, John N262WF ************ Time: 08:29:08 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Subject: Europa-List: Site update Hi all, I have finally updated my web site a bit and written up the story about getting hit by lightning. Its at http://europa363.versadev.com/ , just scroll down to the bottom and you will see a link to that page. I have also added a google search and a better index. I will probably write up a few pages about test flying in the next few weeks. Paul **********


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    Time: 09:06:47 AM PST US
    From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: Harness attach point?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Anybody ever look up close to where Liberty attaches to? http://libertyaircraft.com/libertyxl2/pictures.php Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 09:18:40 AM PST US
    From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: Bonding on top
    --> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net> Hi Ken, My NAV, COM and transponder antennas are all Bob Archer designs. The NAV was installed in the outer lower panel of the port wing, the COM went into the fin and the Transponder was located on the starboard split line just behind the baggage bulkhead. All have worked fine from Day 1. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S, 370 hours ************* Time: 01:21:43 PM PST US From: "Ken Gresham" <kgresham@dtnspeed.net> Subject: Europa-List: Bonding on top I haven't been building since Feb. with lack of time being the main problem. Seems much has transpired with Europa during my time off. Anyway, I wuold appreciate all opinions as to what all could possibly be done before top goes on and how to accomplish these things. Examples: Comm antenna? and how to route, Nav antenna? how to route, Transponder antenna? how to route. I noticed in a picture somewhere a baggage bay bulkhead bonded into bottom only. What are the pos and cons? I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks, Ken Gresham A268 Tri-gear **************8


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    Time: 11:45:17 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: Bonding on top
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Gresham" <kgresham@dtnspeed.net> Subject: Europa-List: Bonding on top Anyway, I wuold appreciate all opinions as to what all could possibly be done before top goes on and how to accomplish these things. Examples: Comm antenna? and how to route, Nav antenna? how to route, Transponder antenna? how to route. I noticed in a picture somewhere a baggage bay bulkhead bonded into bottom only. What are the pos and cons? I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks, Ken Gresham Ken, ..lots of good advice and excellent photos in the naswers to your query..... I opted for a full extended baggage bay for my Classic mono and wrestled with the same worry. I built the various bulkheads in my case: [a] cut back the original bulkhead but left a 2-1/2 inch former all around the roof; [b] produced another second bulkhead to incorporate the "D" panel from [a]; [c] built up the mass-balance tower; [d] built the aft bulkhead with the trim motor and nearby stab axle; and [e] installed Graham Singleton's rudder post. Courtesy of GraSing, I encountered Paul Stewart's "splash" alternative to applying BiD flanges to bulkheads when the top is on. This technique was described as applying 2 layers of 4-1/2 inch-wide BiD to the fuselage inner top where the various bulkheads meet it (with a resistant plastic liner to permit peeling off when dry). These form a "T" for the top of the bulkheads, and they are transferred to the bulkheads and the 'flange' of BiD applied either side then the top installed temporarily to site them. When dry, the top is removed and you have a 4-1/2 inch wide "T" with which to affix the top. In the case of the mass-balance tower, I shone a lamp up from below centred on the tower which shadowed the position of the tower onto the top surface (tempo installed). This permitted exact siting of the tower 'splash'. With the four bulkheads (former, aft, tower and stern) all splashed in place, it was child's play to slather the green poo onto them, affix the fuselage top and walk away. The tail section and all fuselage areas were in their proper position and I did'nt have to crawl into the back cone and paste BiD over my upturned visage. One detracting fact is that the curing green poo pulls the skin inward as it cures, whether you do it my way or the manual's, so filler called for there. Another preparation is a 1/2inch underground black pipe is pushed up into the forward fin area, up the second lightening hole and out the fin top. It extends forward to the mass-balance area inside. I don't know what it's for yet, but I have a smooth fairly light conduit from the belly to the fintop if I need it (Video site?). Good luck with the plans! Ferg A064


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    Time: 04:12:58 PM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Gidday, I am wondering please if some computer fellow knows why when I click on Ira's embedded e-mail link to his web pictures it opens Internet Explorer Version 6.0 with a page address of About:Blank. When I open a browser normally it opens to my home page address, so that is OK. So, any ideas will be greatly appreciated. The only way I can solve the problem is to cut and paste the link into Explorer Address, which sort of defeats the purpose of a buried link somewhat. Reg Tony Renshaw At 06:46 AM 12/8/2004, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu > >Greetings, >I put a micro album up on Steve's site illustrating my attachment which >provide >an FAA suggested angle. This is a design I derived from Bob Berube at >FlightCrafters > > >http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=Harness-per-FAA-recommendation&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php > > >Ira N224xs flying > >


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    Time: 04:16:54 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: website for map of UK aerodromes?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> http://www.thehangar.co.uk/waypoints/waypoints.shtml Has half of the info. you require. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com> Subject: Europa-List: website for map of UK aerodromes? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sean O'Reilly" <seanmoreilly@hotmail.com> > > Apologies in advance to non-UK readers (unless you are able to help of > course!) > > Is anyone aware of a website setting out UK GA airfields in map form (with > AD specific info if required)? > > Many thanks and compliments of the season, > > Sean O'Reilly > Reigate, Surrey > Newish owner of G-BWWB (ex Mike Dolphin) > >


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    Time: 04:23:36 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Harness attach point?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Effectively to much taller 'headrests'. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Subject: Europa-List: Harness attach point? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> > > Anybody ever look up close to where Liberty attaches to? > > > http://libertyaircraft.com/libertyxl2/pictures.php > > Ron Parigoris > >


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    Time: 04:30:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank
    From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz> The link sreads across two lines so only the first half is being picked up as a link. Your technique of cutting and pasting is the correct answer. Tony ============================================ Tony S Krzyzewski Managing Director Ph +64 9 274 1590 Kaon Technologies Ltd Fx +64 9 274 1593 PO Box 58521 Cell 021 921 988 Greenmount tonyk@kaon.co.nz Auckland NZ ============================================ ============================================ Check out the new Fluke Etherscope handheld network monitor and test unit at www.flukenetworks.com ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw --> <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Gidday, I am wondering please if some computer fellow knows why when I click on Ira's embedded e-mail link to his web pictures it opens Internet Explorer Version 6.0 with a page address of About:Blank. When I open a browser normally it opens to my home page address, so that is OK. So, any ideas will be greatly appreciated. The only way I can solve the problem is to cut and paste the link into Explorer Address, which sort of defeats the purpose of a buried link somewhat. Reg Tony Renshaw At 06:46 AM 12/8/2004, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu > >Greetings, >I put a micro album up on Steve's site illustrating my attachment which >provide an FAA suggested angle. This is a design I derived from Bob >Berube at FlightCrafters > > >http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=Harness-per-FAA-r >ecommendation&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php > > >Ira N224xs flying > >


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    Time: 08:07:27 PM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> > The link spreads across two lines so only the first half is being picked up as a link. > Your technique of cutting and pasting is the correct answer. Also, if using Outlook or Outlook Express, with the e-mail highlighted, click on 'FORWARD'. Then go to the end of the first line of the link and press DELETE. This rejoins the link and it will now work when clicked on. Easier and quicker to do than to type the directions ! Kingsley




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