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1. 03:43 AM - Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount (nigel charles)
2. 04:40 AM - Europa Kit for Sale (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
3. 04:58 AM - Re: Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount (Pete Lawless)
4. 05:11 AM - Re: Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount (Pete Lawless)
5. 05:34 AM - Europa Kit for Sale (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
6. 06:37 AM - Re: Europa Pictures (SteveD)
7. 09:24 AM - Re: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank (David Glauser)
8. 10:54 AM - 336 XS GCCUL First Flight (Tony Bale)
9. 11:10 AM - Re: 336 XS GCCUL First Flight (Gerry Holland)
10. 11:15 AM - Re: Lightning strike (Fergus Kyle)
11. 12:07 PM - Re: 336 XS GCCUL First Flight (Paul Boulet)
12. 03:00 PM - Re: Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount (Duncan McFadyean)
13. 03:30 PM - Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion (Edward Gladstone)
14. 03:48 PM - talking of rotax ring mount ... (steve v.)
15. 04:02 PM - Re: talking of rotax ring mount ... (Duncan McFadyean)
16. 04:06 PM - Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion (Edward Gladstone)
17. 04:31 PM - Re: Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion (Duncan McFadyean)
18. 04:37 PM - Re: talking of rotax ring mount ... (steve v.)
19. 04:40 PM - Re: Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion (Duncan McFadyean)
20. 07:23 PM - Calculating Maintenance Time (Steve Crimm)
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| Subject: | Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
I have decided to upgrade my Europa to XS firewall forward
specification. This means that I no longer have a requirement for my
Classic stainless exhaust. It is available for sale at 300UK pounds. I
believe the new ones cost over 500UK pounds + tax.
I have ordered my XS firewall kit and I am pleased to report that the
factory thinks there should be little delay on getting the parts. The
limiting parts for delivery are the cowls but I should get those in
January. In the meantime there is plenty of work for me to do with the
rest of the kit but I have one problem. The XS firewall forward kit
assumes that the engine comes with the engine ring mount (it is a Rotax
part). The Classic does not use the ring mount so I have had to order
this separately. Unfortunately Skydrive only receive orders from Rotax
every 4-6 weeks and will not now be placing another order until after
Christmas. As the ring mount is the first part to be fitted it seems I
am delayed until I get a ring mount. Is there any builder out there who
has a ring mount which they are not planning to use for the next 2
months and would be prepared to let me have in exchange for mine when it
arrives?
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Europa Kit for Sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by:
I have a Europa Kit for sale including the following components:
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Airframe kit 1,2 and 3
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Engine ancillary package, stage 4 (without engine
and
propeller)
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Electrical components, relay, switches, circuit breakers,
wires etc.
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Additional fuel components, Andair Fuel valve and
gascolator, AN-fitting and tube based fuel system etc.
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 XS mod., cockpit module, fuel filler, weight upgrade
kit,
new tail wheel.
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2000+ man-hours used to complete fuselage, wings and
tail.
All metal parts anodized or cadmium plated and painted according to
mil-spec.
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Brenderup =93Europa=94 Trailer (hot dip galvanized
steel) with
brakes.
-=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Adjustable Fuselage dolly.
I also have an instrument package with basic instruments and electrical
gyro.
The basic aircraft is completed, tail kit, wings and fuselage. I have
started basic equipment installation but you can still tailor it to
your specific requirements and fly next summer!
For more information call or e-mail: Jens Aabo, +45 4818 6024,
jensaabo@mail.tele.dk
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| Subject: | Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Nigel just a thought as I hit the button. It does have a heater muff on
it doesn't it.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel
charles
Subject: Europa-List: Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
--> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
I have decided to upgrade my Europa to XS firewall forward
specification. This means that I no longer have a requirement for my
Classic stainless exhaust. It is available for sale at 300UK pounds. I
believe the new ones cost over 500UK pounds + tax.
I have ordered my XS firewall kit and I am pleased to report that the
factory thinks there should be little delay on getting the parts. The
limiting parts for delivery are the cowls but I should get those in
January. In the meantime there is plenty of work for me to do with the
rest of the kit but I have one problem. The XS firewall forward kit
assumes that the engine comes with the engine ring mount (it is a Rotax
part). The Classic does not use the ring mount so I have had to order
this separately. Unfortunately Skydrive only receive orders from Rotax
every 4-6 weeks and will not now be placing another order until after
Christmas. As the ring mount is the first part to be fitted it seems I
am delayed until I get a ring mount. Is there any builder out there who
has a ring mount which they are not planning to use for the next 2
months and would be prepared to let me have in exchange for mine when it
arrives?
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Nigel
Yes please.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel
charles
Subject: Europa-List: Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
--> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
I have decided to upgrade my Europa to XS firewall forward
specification. This means that I no longer have a requirement for my
Classic stainless exhaust. It is available for sale at 300UK pounds. I
believe the new ones cost over 500UK pounds + tax.
I have ordered my XS firewall kit and I am pleased to report that the
factory thinks there should be little delay on getting the parts. The
limiting parts for delivery are the cowls but I should get those in
January. In the meantime there is plenty of work for me to do with the
rest of the kit but I have one problem. The XS firewall forward kit
assumes that the engine comes with the engine ring mount (it is a Rotax
part). The Classic does not use the ring mount so I have had to order
this separately. Unfortunately Skydrive only receive orders from Rotax
every 4-6 weeks and will not now be placing another order until after
Christmas. As the ring mount is the first part to be fitted it seems I
am delayed until I get a ring mount. Is there any builder out there who
has a ring mount which they are not planning to use for the next 2
months and would be prepared to let me have in exchange for mine when it
arrives?
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Europa Kit for Sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by:
I have a Europa Kit for sale including the following components:
Airframe kit 1,2 and 3
Engine ancillary package, stage 4 (without engine and propeller)
Electrical components, relay, switches, circuit breakers, wires etc.
Additional fuel components, Andair Fuel valve and gascolator,
AN-fitting and tube based fuel system etc.
XS mod., cockpit module, fuel filler, weight upgrade kit, new tail
wheel.
2000+ man-hours used to complete fuselage, wings and tail. All metal
parts anodized or cadmium plated and painted according to mil-spec.
Brenderup =93Europa=94 Trailer (hot dip galvanized steel) with brakes.
Adjustable Fuselage dolly.
I also have an instrument package with basic instruments and electrical
gyro.
The basic aircraft is completed, tail kit, wings and fuselage. I have
started basic equipment installation but you can still tailor it to
your specific requirements and fly next summer!
For more information call or e-mail: Jens Aabo, +45 4818 6024,
jensaabo@mail.tele.dk
=A0
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| Subject: | RE: Europa Pictures |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I've made the links ignore the PHP gibberish...
If you put www.europaowners.org then the name of the album, in this case Harness-per-FAA-recommendation the board will fill in the rest of the link for you so:
http://www.europaowners.org/Harness-per-FAA-recommendation
will get you the link to the harness photos without a ton of gibberish in the link.
Steved
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| Subject: | Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work" About:Blank |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Glauser" <david.glauser@xpsystems.com>
I use the URLRun add-in, which reconnects these links automatically. The
price is right... Free.
http://www.cheztabor.com/UrlRunAddIn/
dg
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley
Hurst
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Pictures "Buried Links don't work"
About:Blank
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst"
--> <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> The link spreads across two lines so only the first half is being
picked
up as a link.
> Your technique of cutting and pasting is the correct answer.
Also, if using Outlook or Outlook Express, with the e-mail highlighted,
click on 'FORWARD'. Then go to the end of the first line of the link
and press DELETE. This rejoins the link and it will now work when
clicked on.
Easier and quicker to do than to type the directions !
Kingsley
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| Subject: | 336 XS GCCUL First Flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
Well folks it finally happened, our baby took to the sky at 2.45 this afternoon
for the first time, big grins all round.
Light Westerly wind, + 4=B0 C flown by senior CAA test pilot Paul Mulcahy (fine
fellow tests everything from 757's to microlights and everything in between)
from Rayne near Stansted Essex. After general handling, all of which went almost
faultlessly, the first flight was completed. This represents 3200 + hours of
work and it almost seemed worth it !!
The pilot was extremely impressed with all functions and said it was sweet to fly,
smooth engine response and apart from low temperatures all looking good.
Their was one problem though. The geardown operation strikes fairly solid resistance
about 2/3 of the way through the gate. The pilot first wondered if it was
air pressure / over tight bungee, but then decided this was a little moor than
that. It apears that if you select gear down, reach the resistance, move the
selector partly up the gate, then all the way down, it locks down. We had a
good look but couldn't find any evidence of problems so will have a good inspection
tomorrow, anybody experienced similar problem ?
Prior to the first flight the gear had been cycled 50+ times without hitch.
Looking forward to you all sorting my problem for me before I get back to a cold
hanger floor tomorrow morning !!
ATB
Tony.
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| Subject: | Re: 336 XS GCCUL First Flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Tony Hi!
> Well folks it finally happened, our baby took to the sky at 2.45 this
> afternoon for the first time, big grins all round.
Very well done! Had your Christmas present early!!
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
PSS AoA Fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
Mobile: +44 7808 402404
WebFax: +44 870 7059985
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning strike |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Hi.......
We always stayed at least 25 miles from the nearest Cb on the radar
when at or below the freezing level of ambient air. Usually 15-20 was best
above that height. Has everyone seen the write-up of the Brit glider strike?
Parachutes were paramount there.
Ferg
A064
PS: Hail is another threat from big Cbs. Same distances apply, as have seen
radar spikes of hail coming out the sides above 25000'.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Lightning strike
| --> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney
<johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
|
| Hi Paul,
|
| Thanks for the nice write up regarding your lightning strike experience.
| I am happy that your hit was not more serious.
|
| It reminded me of a veteran pilot I met who was talking about mountain
| flying. Someone asked him how close one should fly to thunderstorms. His
| reply was instantaneous, "20 miles." He had been in the USAF and had
| obviously been through the school of hard knocks like yourself.
|
| Cheers, John
| N262WF
|
| ************
| Time: 08:29:08 PM PST US
| From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
| Subject: Europa-List: Site update
| Hi all, I have finally updated my web site a bit and written up the story
about getting hit by lightning. Its at http://europa363.versadev.com/ , just
scroll down to the bottom and you will see a link to that page. I have also
added a google search and a better index. I will probably write up a few
pages about test flying in the next few weeks. Paul
| **********
|
|
|
|
|
|
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s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
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| Subject: | Re: 336 XS GCCUL First Flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
Wow! What an eventful day for you. My heartfelt congrats....only wish I was there
to toast your success with a cold one.
I'm looking forward to January when I can continue my own flight testing
Paul Boulet, N914PB
Tony Bale <tony.bale@virgin.net> wrote:
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale"
Well folks it finally happened, our baby took to the sky at 2.45 this afternoon
for the first time, big grins all round.
Light Westerly wind, + 4=B0 C flown by senior CAA test pilot Paul Mulcahy (fine
fellow tests everything from 757's to microlights and everything in between)
from Rayne near Stansted Essex. After general handling, all of which went almost
faultlessly, the first flight was completed. This represents 3200 + hours of
work and it almost seemed worth it !!
The pilot was extremely impressed with all functions and said it was sweet to fly,
smooth engine response and apart from low temperatures all looking good.
Their was one problem though. The geardown operation strikes fairly solid resistance
about 2/3 of the way through the gate. The pilot first wondered if it was
air pressure / over tight bungee, but then decided this was a little moor than
that. It apears that if you select gear down, reach the resistance, move the
selector partly up the gate, then all the way down, it locks down. We had a
good look but couldn't find any evidence of problems so will have a good inspection
tomorrow, anybody experienced similar problem ?
Prior to the first flight the gear had been cycled 50+ times without hitch.
Looking forward to you all sorting my problem for me before I get back to a cold
hanger floor tomorrow morning !!
ATB
Tony.
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| Subject: | Re: Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
If you're stuck, see
www.marc-ingegno.it
click on "other components" and look for Rotax ring mount. It's about half
the price.
I look forward to performance comparison statistics for the XS installation.
The other obvious question is:
why?
Duncan Mcf.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Classic stainless exhaust & engine ring mount
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
<nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> I have decided to upgrade my Europa to XS firewall forward
> specification. This means that I no longer have a requirement for my
> Classic stainless exhaust. It is available for sale at 300UK pounds. I
> believe the new ones cost over 500UK pounds + tax.
>
> I have ordered my XS firewall kit and I am pleased to report that the
> factory thinks there should be little delay on getting the parts. The
> limiting parts for delivery are the cowls but I should get those in
> January. In the meantime there is plenty of work for me to do with the
> rest of the kit but I have one problem. The XS firewall forward kit
> assumes that the engine comes with the engine ring mount (it is a Rotax
> part). The Classic does not use the ring mount so I have had to order
> this separately. Unfortunately Skydrive only receive orders from Rotax
> every 4-6 weeks and will not now be placing another order until after
> Christmas. As the ring mount is the first part to be fitted it seems I
> am delayed until I get a ring mount. Is there any builder out there who
> has a ring mount which they are not planning to use for the next 2
> months and would be prepared to let me have in exchange for mine when it
> arrives?
>
> Nigel Charles
>
>
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| Subject: | Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Edward Gladstone <Ted_Gladstone@compuserve.com>
Hi All,
How about fitting a 1" Dia tube, bent like an inverted and flattened "U",
over each headrest ( like a miniature Roll Over Bar ) , that pivots about
the front top edge of the seat back and on either side of the head rest?
The height would be such that the horizontal top of it was about 1" above
shoulder height. It would fold back to the horizontal to allow you to sit
on the headrest while getting in and out, as usual. It would then be
pivoted upright and the seatbelt placed over it before the seatbelt is
taken over the shoulders. This device would resist the compression
forces that would otherwise be taken by the spine in the event of an
accident.
Ideally it should be pivoted at the bottom of the seat back (i.e. at about
the same position that the spine pivots) but this would necessitate it
being much longer and have a lockable hinge, level with the top of the seat
back, to enable the top of it to pivot backwards, as above.
As the seatbelt is free to slide over the tube there should be no levering
effect leading to extra strain on the headrest seatbelt fixing.
Any comments ?
Ted
G-ZTED
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| Subject: | talking of rotax ring mount ... |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@btinternet.com>
hello all, i to am looking for a ring mount for my 912S , so a big thank you for the link to the italian site ( http://www.marc-ingegno.it/ ) - the ring mount is one third of the $kydrive price ! but , b4 i send for it , can anyone expand on what was meant by " comes complete with steel bush to weld to the main engine mount " , thanks in advance , steve #573
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| Subject: | Re: talking of rotax ring mount ... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
You would need to check also that the truss tubes are continued through the
ring mount tube (i.e. entering a hole in the front of the ring mount tube
and exiting for a short distance through a matching hole in the rear) and
not just butt-welded to the surface of the ring mount tube. Rotax made this
mistake on the early versions of the ring mount, which didn't work
(surprise, surprise!).
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve v." <s.vestuti@btinternet.com>
Subject: Europa-List: talking of rotax ring mount ...
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@btinternet.com>
>
> hello all, i to am looking for a ring mount for my 912S , so a big thank
you for the link to the italian site ( http://www.marc-ingegno.it/ ) - the
ring mount is one third of the $kydrive price ! but , b4 i send for it ,
can anyone expand on what was meant by " comes complete with steel bush to
weld to the main engine mount " , thanks in advance , steve #573
> ----------------
> Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
>
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| Subject: | Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Edward Gladstone <Ted_Gladstone@compuserve.com>
Hi All,
On second thoughts, if the "Roll Over Bar" was restricted to pivot from
horizontally back and only to the vertical, there is no need for the
longer version pivoting from the bottom of the seat back. The bar. locked
in the vertical position, would hold the shoulder straps above the
shoulder.
Ted
G-ZTED
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Good idea. Converts the compressional load that would otherwise be in the
spine to a compressional load in the U-shaped support. The base-fixing of
the support would obviously need to be strong enough to prevent it being
punched into the top of the seat back and have some thing to lock it into
place so that it did not rotate out of its optimum orientation. Or maybe fix
the top of the U to the belt itself; it could then rotate back, but not
forwards.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Gladstone" <Ted_Gladstone@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Edward Gladstone
<Ted_Gladstone@compuserve.com>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> How about fitting a 1" Dia tube, bent like an inverted and flattened
"U",
> over each headrest ( like a miniature Roll Over Bar ) , that pivots
about
> the front top edge of the seat back and on either side of the head rest?
> The height would be such that the horizontal top of it was about 1" above
> shoulder height. It would fold back to the horizontal to allow you to
sit
> on the headrest while getting in and out, as usual. It would then be
> pivoted upright and the seatbelt placed over it before the seatbelt is
> taken over the shoulders. This device would resist the compression
> forces that would otherwise be taken by the spine in the event of an
> accident.
>
> Ideally it should be pivoted at the bottom of the seat back (i.e. at about
> the same position that the spine pivots) but this would necessitate it
> being much longer and have a lockable hinge, level with the top of the
seat
> back, to enable the top of it to pivot backwards, as above.
>
> As the seatbelt is free to slide over the tube there should be no levering
> effect leading to extra strain on the headrest seatbelt fixing.
>
> Any comments ?
>
> Ted
> G-ZTED
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: talking of rotax ring mount ... |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@btinternet.com>
well thanks for that bit of advise duncan , i have emailed the factory to ask them
if that mod is incorperated in theirs , it is not clear from the picture on
their site weather this mod has been done . steve #573
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Why does it have to be "locked" in the vertical position? If it were
attached to a "mid-point" on the shoulder belt it would be prevent from
rotating forward by the belt; doesn't matter if its rotates backwards.
Duncan McF.
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From: "Edward Gladstone" <Ted_Gladstone@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: Shoulder Harness - A Suggestion
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Edward Gladstone
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>
>
> Hi All,
>
> On second thoughts, if the "Roll Over Bar" was restricted to pivot from
> horizontally back and only to the vertical, there is no need for the
> longer version pivoting from the bottom of the seat back. The bar.
locked
> in the vertical position, would hold the shoulder straps above the
> shoulder.
>
>
> Ted
> G-ZTED
>
>
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| Subject: | Calculating Maintenance Time |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Evening All,
I would be interested in hearing how everyone calculates maintenance time?
In my previous life flying helicopters we had two Hobbs meters. One for
maintenance based on actual flight time. The other was for total running
time that we used for customer billing purposes.
With my Grand Rapids EIS is appears to gather time based on oil pressure, so
how does everyone else do it?
Thanks
Steve Crimm
N15JN
A058
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