Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:59 AM - Firewall choice and Rotax Engine order options (Graham Singleton)
2. 08:05 AM - FWF package (Myron Haluschak)
3. 10:28 AM - xcom 760 (Mike Gamble)
4. 11:37 AM - Re: xcom 760 ()
5. 11:37 AM - Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options (KARL HEINDL)
6. 11:53 AM - Re: xcom 760 (Tony Krzyzewski)
7. 12:12 PM - Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options (KARL HEINDL)
8. 02:02 PM - Re Exhaust problems, Engine, CO topics (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
9. 02:15 PM - Results of Landing Light Survey 2004 (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
10. 04:25 PM - Re: Results of Landing Light Survey 2004 (N55XS)
11. 04:28 PM - xcom 760 (Paul McAllister)
12. 04:44 PM - Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options (SPurpura@aol.com)
13. 04:59 PM - Leaking slave cylinder ()
14. 05:10 PM - Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options (Garry)
15. 05:19 PM - Re: Leaking slave cylinder (SPurpura@aol.com)
16. 05:49 PM - Re: FWF package (Paul McAllister)
17. 06:18 PM - Re: Results of Landing Light Survey 2004 (KARL HEINDL)
18. 07:18 PM - Re: FWF package (Fergus Kyle)
19. 07:38 PM - Re: FWF options (Fred R. Klein)
20. 08:09 PM - Re: Re: FWF options (Tony Krzyzewski)
21. 08:35 PM - Re: Re: FWF options (Paul McAllister)
22. 11:00 PM - Re: FWF package (R.C.Harrison)
23. 11:00 PM - Re: Leaking slave cylinder (R.C.Harrison)
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| Subject: | Firewall choice and Rotax Engine order options |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 19/12/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>What makes more sense: To get first the 914 kit and then, if I change my
>mind (means
>I cant afford the 914) upgrade to the 912? Or get the 912 package and have
>left over's? I would hate to buy parts I do not need. If somebody has the
>packing list from both that would be great so I could see what I really would
>get from Europa.
>
>The last of the set of questions:
>I know some of you where interested about the Kremen CS Prop. Are there
>any Europas
>Michael Grass
>A266 Trigear, Detroit MI,
Michael
whose your tech councilor? Jim Price? He was Thomas Scherer's remember him?
Kremen is the cheapest and looks OK . I like the Arplast (French) still
economical,
914 is the smoothest engine and is very good at high density altitude.
Plenty of that in the West.
Graham
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Myron Haluschak" <myron.haluschak@sympatico.ca>
In response to Michael's dilema about which engine to use , may I offer my humble
opinion ?
After owning several planes, certified and not, one common thing always comes to
the forefront, especially if finances and piece of mind (which are related)
are concerned.
Maintenance with me is a major issue. The 914 has always been my first choice,
but when adding a more complex engine, you must now prepare yourself for more
of the inherent things that go with it. Operating it properly, cost and maintenance...
I am a high altitude pilot by profession and I believe in mid continental
areas the 912S is well suited. EX. Peter Timm from B.C. has flown across
Canada and runs a 912S, which he is very happy with, and this is one reason
why I am going with the 912S selection. TBO may be a small point, that is until
you have to do one. I've had 6 and they open the door to Murphy's Law.
My main criterion for the 914, the great engine that it is, would be can you or
will you be able to justify the expense by using it for what it was truly designed
to do - higher altitude flight ? If you are going up to where the 914 excels,
you may need to consider an O2 system.
Because of geography, some pilots need the power of the 914. Getting higher ,
faster is a nice thought from a safety perspective, but when the s_ _t hits the
fan , it will ultimately be your judgement and skillset (proficiency) that will
let you walk after. In my experience, high and low timers with great equipment
still die.
Both engines are good. I have flown Europas with each engine, and found little
difference. Both had C/S props and performed well. Pilot workload on the 914 was
a little more, as it does require more attention. To me that's not an issue,
but long term operating costs, including parts cost, overhauls and such, are.
I hope this helps a bit. I am an F-16 C pilot, so bear in mind this is only MY
opinion.
Cheers
Myron Haluschak USAF/ANG F-16 C
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Has anyone taken delivery of the xcom 760 TR from down under?
Is it approved by UK CAA for fitting to our homebuilts?
Does it work?
I like it and I would like to order.
Mike
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Be very careful Mike!
I ordered an intercom and harness from them. The harness was junk and would
not work. He at first refused to respond to my emails but eventually did.
He sent another intercom which did not work either.. After almost 2 years
he sent another harness but by this time I was through with Xcom so he said
send it all back and he would credit my card. I sent it back. Has he
credited my card? NO. ( He claims that he credited it but the bank says no
and he has no evidence.
I have now installed a PSEngineering intercom and Microair made a beautiful
harness for the two coms. Works great.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gamble
Subject: Europa-List: xcom 760
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Has anyone taken delivery of the xcom 760 TR from down under? Is it approved
by UK CAA for fitting to our homebuilts? Does it work? I like it and I would
like to order.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Michael,
If that recommendation comes from E04, then at least you should have no
trouble getting all the support from them and a full set of the installation
instructions.
As for engine choice I go along with what Myron had to say, but everybody
has different ideas.
For me the 914 didn't justify the extra odd 8000 or so dollars, I already
paid out way more than I had budgeted for. I agree about the safety aspect
regarding high rate of climb, but a cs prop would take care of that with any
of the engines. I have flown the Katana with the 80hp Rotax and two-bladed
cs prop
>From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:23:40 -0500
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>
>Karl,
>
>I appreciate your feedback.
>
>I would like to purchase the fwf package from Europa2004 direct but I was
>advised by them that I would have to source the Engine and Prop by myself
>because Rotax wants to keep it with their local distributor for warranty
>claims etc. and second it would be cheaper anyway (The Euro and the Pound
>gained more then 30% last year). They also advised me to contact Airmaster
>direct as well.
>I am actually a firm believer that we all should source as much as possible
>to bring Europa back on its feet which in return would warrant the factory
>support in the long time and therefore also secure our investment but in
>this case I do not seem to have this option or at least it does not seam
>feasible.
>You are absolutely right with the mountainous or better the lag of
>mountainous landscape in Michigan but I decided on the Europa as a touring
>machine and in terms of the 912ULS the high compression is rather a turn
>off
>for me. The high compression has a higher demand on fuel quality and even
>the highest available fuel grade here in Michigan is just marginal. The
>higher compression means detonations are more likely (OK the turbo boost
>reverses somehow this argument but you still could throttle back then).
>Also I like the Idea of more power adding more safety by gaining a safe
>altitude at a shorter time. A turn off for the 914 is the reduced TBO and a
>higher demand on maintenance. For the Prop: I don't know what would be more
>beneficial. A turbo and a fixed prop with the option to update easy to a CS
>or a 912ULS with the CS prop and no really update path on the engine side.
>
>Michael Grass
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I tried to do the fwf package 'on the cheap' by shopping around
>elsewhere
> > for the engine. I came to the conclusion that by the time you add all
>the
> > bits and pieces you need there isn't much of a saving when compared to
>the
> > complete kit as I received it from Europa. It made for a very
> > straightforward installation, no extra parts needed, except for a few
>nuts
> > and bolts maybe. Why not upgrade to the cs prop at a later stage. Just
>make
> > sure that you have enough clearance between the propeller hub and the
> > cowling, and do the wiring and leave a hole for the control box on your
> > panel for a simple retrofit. If cost is important why the 914 ? I didn't
> > notice any mountains at all when I flew over Michigan.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > >From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
> > >Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:35:57 -0500
> > >
> > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass"
><M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >
> > >Group,
> > >
> > >I like to order the firewall forward kit from Europa2004 as soon as
> > >possible but I need to do an informed decision. My problem is: My heart
>is
> > >on the 914 engine with an CS Prop (Airmaster, Kremen, Arplast?) but I
>am
> > >not sure how much the total package will cost nor I will (and be able)
>buy
> > >the whole package at once. Therefore If I could get some input from the
> > >group members who where there before that would be great.
> > >
> > >My question related to the Rotax engines:
> > >
> > >What (factory) order options other then the 912ULS-4 or 914UL-4 are
>needed.
> > >The Rotax websites and the Lockwood catalog are rather confusing then
> > >helpful. I believe I need the ring mount, slipper clutch, regulator /
> > >rectifier, HD starter, expansion bottle but what type, expansion tank,
> > >vacuum pump drive (not the pump itself), bolts, prop. lugs, Lord blocks
> > >etc?? Again, reading the Rotax publications I do not know what is
>included
> > >and what needs to be ordered extra and what I really need for
>completing
>my
> > >Europa. I also believe that some options are standard on the 912 but
>not
> > >the 914 but in return the 914 includes some options which are not
>included
> > >in the 912 base package.
> > >
> > >My question regarding the Europa FWF kit is:
> > >
> > >What makes more sense: To get first the 914 kit and then, if I change
>my
> > >mind (means I cant afford the 914) upgrade to the 912? Or get the 912
> > >package and have left over's? I would hate to buy parts I do not need.
>If
> > >somebody has the packing list from both that would be great so I could
>see
> > >what I really would get from Europa.
> > >
> > >The last of the set of questions:
> > >I know some of you where interested about the Kremen CS Prop. Are there
>any
> > >Europas flying with them yet and if yes how is the performance?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >Michael Grass
> > >
> > >A266 Trigear, Detroit MI,
> > >Building halted at 0 deg F. outside at ground level and to much time to
> > >dream.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>>> Has anyone taken delivery of the xcom 760 TR from down under? Is it
approved by UK CAA for fitting to our homebuilts? Does it work? I like
it and I would like to order.
Yes, I have one and it's a superb radio. I also bought his harness
because I hate wiring up DB connectors! I fired up the panel over the
weekend for the first time and was astonished to receive a weather
message service broadcast from a ground station from some 10 miles away
with my plane sitting in the garage with the door open. I haven't
transmitted yet but, from another local flyer who has his operational, I
hear nothing but good news.
Regards
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Michael,
I hadn't finished my reply, the system just took over.
The Katana is a much heavier aircraft, but I had no problem getting
airborne. A number of 80hp Europas are happily flying also.
I have not heard about the detonation problem before, but it may be
something to watch for in the future. Here in Canada there will be
legislation that all auto fuels must contain 10 % ethanol. Rotax themselves
recommend a maximum of only 5% for all of their 9xx engines. So I don't know
where that leaves us.
In regards to cs prop, I probably will have to go with the Airmaster,
because I need full feather capability with the glider wings, which are
sitting in my basement, not yet started.
Karl
>From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:23:40 -0500
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>
>Karl,
>
>I appreciate your feedback.
>
>I would like to purchase the fwf package from Europa2004 direct but I was
>advised by them that I would have to source the Engine and Prop by myself
>because Rotax wants to keep it with their local distributor for warranty
>claims etc. and second it would be cheaper anyway (The Euro and the Pound
>gained more then 30% last year). They also advised me to contact Airmaster
>direct as well.
>I am actually a firm believer that we all should source as much as possible
>to bring Europa back on its feet which in return would warrant the factory
>support in the long time and therefore also secure our investment but in
>this case I do not seem to have this option or at least it does not seam
>feasible.
>You are absolutely right with the mountainous or better the lag of
>mountainous landscape in Michigan but I decided on the Europa as a touring
>machine and in terms of the 912ULS the high compression is rather a turn
>off
>for me. The high compression has a higher demand on fuel quality and even
>the highest available fuel grade here in Michigan is just marginal. The
>higher compression means detonations are more likely (OK the turbo boost
>reverses somehow this argument but you still could throttle back then).
>Also I like the Idea of more power adding more safety by gaining a safe
>altitude at a shorter time. A turn off for the 914 is the reduced TBO and a
>higher demand on maintenance. For the Prop: I don't know what would be more
>beneficial. A turbo and a fixed prop with the option to update easy to a CS
>or a 912ULS with the CS prop and no really update path on the engine side.
>
>Michael Grass
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I tried to do the fwf package 'on the cheap' by shopping around
>elsewhere
> > for the engine. I came to the conclusion that by the time you add all
>the
> > bits and pieces you need there isn't much of a saving when compared to
>the
> > complete kit as I received it from Europa. It made for a very
> > straightforward installation, no extra parts needed, except for a few
>nuts
> > and bolts maybe. Why not upgrade to the cs prop at a later stage. Just
>make
> > sure that you have enough clearance between the propeller hub and the
> > cowling, and do the wiring and leave a hole for the control box on your
> > panel for a simple retrofit. If cost is important why the 914 ? I didn't
> > notice any mountains at all when I flew over Michigan.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > >From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
> > >Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:35:57 -0500
> > >
> > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass"
><M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >
> > >Group,
> > >
> > >I like to order the firewall forward kit from Europa2004 as soon as
> > >possible but I need to do an informed decision. My problem is: My heart
>is
> > >on the 914 engine with an CS Prop (Airmaster, Kremen, Arplast?) but I
>am
> > >not sure how much the total package will cost nor I will (and be able)
>buy
> > >the whole package at once. Therefore If I could get some input from the
> > >group members who where there before that would be great.
> > >
> > >My question related to the Rotax engines:
> > >
> > >What (factory) order options other then the 912ULS-4 or 914UL-4 are
>needed.
> > >The Rotax websites and the Lockwood catalog are rather confusing then
> > >helpful. I believe I need the ring mount, slipper clutch, regulator /
> > >rectifier, HD starter, expansion bottle but what type, expansion tank,
> > >vacuum pump drive (not the pump itself), bolts, prop. lugs, Lord blocks
> > >etc?? Again, reading the Rotax publications I do not know what is
>included
> > >and what needs to be ordered extra and what I really need for
>completing
>my
> > >Europa. I also believe that some options are standard on the 912 but
>not
> > >the 914 but in return the 914 includes some options which are not
>included
> > >in the 912 base package.
> > >
> > >My question regarding the Europa FWF kit is:
> > >
> > >What makes more sense: To get first the 914 kit and then, if I change
>my
> > >mind (means I cant afford the 914) upgrade to the 912? Or get the 912
> > >package and have left over's? I would hate to buy parts I do not need.
>If
> > >somebody has the packing list from both that would be great so I could
>see
> > >what I really would get from Europa.
> > >
> > >The last of the set of questions:
> > >I know some of you where interested about the Kremen CS Prop. Are there
>any
> > >Europas flying with them yet and if yes how is the performance?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >Michael Grass
> > >
> > >A266 Trigear, Detroit MI,
> > >Building halted at 0 deg F. outside at ground level and to much time to
> > >dream.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re Exhaust problems, Engine, CO topics |
12/20/2004 05:01:55 PM,
Serialize complete at 12/20/2004 05:01:55 PM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Apropos the exhaust stack problems noted here last week,
I have a small cautionary tale to tell:
From the begining of my flight test program I have had intermittant
problems with very rough periods on my 912S. I had a known
small exhaust leak from Cyl 3, I thought from the joint to the head.
In fact, it was a leak from the connection from the down tube to the
muffler - they were separated by 2mm and the hot gas was jetting up
to the carb float bowl. At high power and or high altitude, the exhaust
would boil the gas in the float bowl - bad for serenity of pilot.
After consultation with Andy, I loosed the slip joint on #1, set a bucking
bar on the underside of the muffler, and tapped upward with a plastic
mallet. The muffler moved 2mm up, the tube seated, and for 3.5 hrs now
the
engine is quite smooth. Withy the elimination of the leak, using my
radiator
cooling flow for cabin heat leads to a cabin CO measurement of 29-30 ppm.
This is well within my tolerable threshold for day flight below FL 100 in
my current state of health. Household detectors in the US do not alarm
until
100 ppm for 15 mins and 30 ppm might be the level expected flying next to
a smoker.
plug: I am using the CO Experts 2004 detector (Aeromedix.com)($99.)
Ira N224XS Flying
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| Subject: | Results of Landing Light Survey 2004 |
12/20/2004 05:15:00 PM,
Serialize complete at 12/20/2004 05:15:00 PM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Sad to say,
Nobody responded to say they were actually flying with a landing light
system they were actually satisfied with
It seems to be general knowledge at this point that the little fog lamps
sold in auto stores rated at 55w are
inadequate for landing lights irrespective of where they are installed.
Actual PAR (i.e., GE4509) lamps, automotive high beam (incandescent,
halogen or best HID-xenon) provide
adequate focused illumination but run very hot, i.e., above Tg of most of
our E glass/Aeropoxy structures
I am going to try to remold a nose gear wheel pant to extend it forward to
fit a standard GE PAR lamp as my winter
project. I guess I will have to design a metal mounting frame that can
diffuse and radiate heat. In the NYC metro
area where I fly, landing lights are usually kept on at low altitudes for
collision avoidance in the relatively crowded skies.
Aside from that, I'd love to hear from people with designs they have
validated with night flight testing.
Ira N224XS flying (at night without landing light, just whelan strobes and
position lights)
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| Subject: | Re: Results of Landing Light Survey 2004 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu wrote:
> I'd love to hear from people with designs they have
>validated with night flight testing.
>
>
>
>
I'll let you know in about 5 - 6 months... :)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all
My only experience is with there intercom product. I had an intermittent
problem and I telephoned them. They express mailed me a brand new unit
without asking for payment of any kind. All that was requested was that I
returned the old one.
The new unit continues to function perfectly and my experience with the
company was been a positive one.
Paul
Europa 363 ~ 145 hours and still grinning
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options |
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
go for the 914,i did and am quite satisfied,the whirlwind c/s prop is also
great.
all the parts you mentioned were supplied in the firewall forward kit.
sam n77eu
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| Subject: | Leaking slave cylinder |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Hi Europaphiles
Has anyone had problems with leaking slave cylinders on the brakes of a
mono? Is there a cure?
I recently filled the brakes with dash 5, the silicone fluid, and it leaks
out of the slave cylinder. It doesn't leak at the two fitting sites, it is
coming from the movable cam that applies pressure to the pads.
Help appreciated.
Tom Friedland A 079 XS Mono Jab Airmaster
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Please note that while the Whirlwind C/S prop is a good one ( I have one),
it is my understanding that they are no longer making them.
Garry Stout, N4220S 400 hrs flying
> --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
>
> go for the 914,i did and am quite satisfied,the whirlwind c/s prop is
> also
> great.
> all the parts you mentioned were supplied in the firewall forward kit.
> sam n77eu
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| Subject: | Re: Leaking slave cylinder |
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
IS -5 THE CORRECT FLUID?
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I'd like to share my experiences gained over the last 140 hours. I flew
both the 912S and 914 and I noticed a difference, so much so that I sold my
unused 912S (at loss) and purchased a 914.
The 914 is a smoother engine, I assume because it has a lower compression.
Is starts easily, even when hot and has never kicked back When the aircraft
is at MUW I use the boost and its a game changer, I can get it off the
ground very quickly. I find this useful when there is a strong cross wind
or on short grass strips. The other advantage is performance at altitude.
I gain around 1.5 knots per thousand feet, and at 10,000 feet I cruise just
shy of 150 knots @ 70% power, after that the increased fuel burn makes it
hardly worth while to use higher power settings.
As with every thing, nothing is free, at 500 hours I plan on removing the
gear box, overhaul the carburetors and at that time the turbo will go in for
checks / repairs.
It really comes down to mission profile. If most of your flying is weekend
pancake breakfasts, fly outs and short hops then the 912S is probably the
engine for you. My flying profile is the reverse, I have an auxiliary tank
and it is mostly cross country flying with a fully loaded aircraft.
The ultimate question in choices is, if I were to do it over again would I
choose the same.... for me that is a yes. (Apart from getting hit by
lighting)
Paul
http://europa363.versadev.com/LightningStrike.html
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| Subject: | Results of Landing Light Survey 2004 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Ira,
You said it yourself, you are flying at night without landing lights. When I
asked John Hurst he said: what do you need landing lights for ? If the
runway wasn't lit you wouldn't be landing anyway. I was planning to install
one and did all the wiring, switch and circuit breaker, but I think I will
make do with a powerful flashlight, mounted on top of the instrument module,
powered by batteries.
That way I can also use it after landing when I am looking for a place to
park.
Karl
>From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Results of Landing Light Survey 2004
>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:14:57 -0500 12/20/2004 05:15:00 PM,
>Serialize complete at 12/20/2004 05:15:00 PM
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
>
>Sad to say,
>
>Nobody responded to say they were actually flying with a landing light
>system they were actually satisfied with
>
>It seems to be general knowledge at this point that the little fog lamps
>sold in auto stores rated at 55w are
>inadequate for landing lights irrespective of where they are installed.
>
>Actual PAR (i.e., GE4509) lamps, automotive high beam (incandescent,
>halogen or best HID-xenon) provide
>adequate focused illumination but run very hot, i.e., above Tg of most of
>our E glass/Aeropoxy structures
>
>I am going to try to remold a nose gear wheel pant to extend it forward to
>fit a standard GE PAR lamp as my winter
>project. I guess I will have to design a metal mounting frame that can
>diffuse and radiate heat. In the NYC metro
>area where I fly, landing lights are usually kept on at low altitudes for
>collision avoidance in the relatively crowded skies.
>Aside from that, I'd love to hear from people with designs they have
>validated with night flight testing.
>
>
>Ira N224XS flying (at night without landing light, just whelan strobes and
>position lights)
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: FWF package
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
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| Hi all,
|
| I'd like to share my experiences gained over the last 140 hours. I flew
| both the 912S and 914 and I noticed a difference, so much so that I sold
my
| unused 912S (at loss) and purchased a 914.
Paul,
Thank you for that most interesting report on your choice of engine.
I have opted for the 914 and am pleased I have a mentor in the passing I was
interested
particularly in the mention of extra power for heavyweight or short strips
as expect both to be challenges especially in Ontario, Quebec, and east.
I hope I can ask you the odd question when the engine comes
(probably in early '05) as have the old Euro FWF kit.
It may strike you as funny but here in Canada, I can register the
AUW up to a formula on wing area hwich permits 1500lb. If I register the AUW
as under 1370lb, it is annual tax free, but hundreds if more. Since one of
our compatriots registered and flew 1500lb AUW at Calgary (3500'ASL and
35degC) successfully, I intend to register as 1365 and fly on occasion at
1500 and Devil take the hindmost.
Thanks again
Ferg
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
All,
I salute all of you who struggle w/ the eccentricities of the Rotax engines;
and, I gather from previous postings that there are also many of you whose
troubles w/ these engines fall within a tolerable range of normal break-in,
maintenance, and experimental-category aircraft issues; nonetheless, I am
reluctant to follow in your footsteps. The irony for me to come to this
conclusion lays in my original criteria for the ideal kitplane; namely, that
I was seeking a swift, fast-build kit mated w/ a modern powerplant...I was
confident that the (partially) liquid-cooled Rotax powered Europa would do
nicely...a confidence I have concluded (at least for the moment) was
misplaced, based on the multiple postings which relate a wide variety of
recurrent and difficult to diagnose failures and glitches (see below for
today's).
In the past I have mentioned my excellent impression af Alex Bowman's CAM
125 after seeing it and talking w/ Alex at the NW EAA show Arlington. WA
this past summer. Based on the Honda VTEC engine, the CAM 125 has been
around for a number of years...though poorly marketed, it is robust...I'll
go out on a limb and say its bulletproof.
Alex, Neil Varcoe (his engineer), and Bob Masters (Firewall Forward Aero
Engines, makers of the CAM 125) have put together an excellent fwf package
and are looking for "3 or 4" guys who will commit to purchasing. They have
production molds for an attractive cowling and ancillary parts including a
very lo-drag mono fairing and an excellent cooling system. There is no
specific price tag for such a package at this time, though the stock engine
w/ PRSU goes for US$11,250.00. There is some dated info about Alex's Europa
at http://www.firewall.ca/main.html and I have a series of pixs I took last
summer.
For additional information, feel free to contact Neil Varcoe at:
www.vortac.ca, You may also contact me or Tony Renshaw, on or off-list.
Fred
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> on 12/20/04 2:01 PM, irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu at
> irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
>
> Apropos the exhaust stack problems noted here last week,
> I have a small cautionary tale to tell:
>
> From the begining of my flight test program I have had intermittant
> problems with very rough periods on my 912S. I had a known
> small exhaust leak from Cyl 3, I thought from the joint to the head.
> In fact, it was a leak from the connection from the down tube to the
> muffler - they were separated by 2mm and the hot gas was jetting up
> to the carb float bowl. At high power and or high altitude, the exhaust
> would boil the gas in the float bowl - bad for serenity of pilot.
> After consultation with Andy, I loosed the slip joint on #1, set a bucking
> bar on the underside of the muffler, and tapped upward with a plastic
> mallet. The muffler moved 2mm up, the tube seated, and for 3.5 hrs now
> the engine is quite smooth........
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> I salute all of you who struggle w/ the eccentricities of the Rotax
engines;
But what about the hundreds of other Europa owners who fly behind a
Rotax without a single problem. As this is a help group you tend to only
hear from those asking for assistance. Those whose installations don't
cause any problems (and this is the majority by a very great margin)
never make comments on the group about their installation so it's easy
to come up with the opinion that the Rotax has problems.
I've had many hours of happy flying behind a Rotax 912 and, apart from
opening the cowlings once in a while to make sure that the engine really
is still there and to change the oil, it has behaved impeccably from the
first time it was ever run.
Tony
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Power applied to the panel for the first time on Sunday
No smoke, no tripped breakers, all worked as planned
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Fred,
I filled my engine with oil and coolant, cranked it up and never looked
back. The only thing I have had to do in 145 hours of running is change the
oil and balance the carburetors.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Re: FWF options
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein"
<fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
> All,
>
> I salute all of you who struggle w/ the eccentricities of the Rotax
engines;
> and, I gather from previous postings that there are also many of you whose
> troubles
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
But Ferg
That's sounds dishonest ?
Merry Christmas
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Leaking slave cylinder |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Tom
I don't have Mono experience but the slave cylinder is in fact a piston
not a cam, so my bet is either the seals have failed or the pads are too
worn allowing the oil to by pass the seals.(assuming you have the
correct fluid.)
Have you made any engine reports yet ....see you have a Jab ?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
Ps BTW I'm Eurosceptic and very much so !
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Subject: Europa-List: Leaking slave cylinder
--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Hi Europaphiles
Has anyone had problems with leaking slave cylinders on the brakes of a
mono? Is there a cure?
I recently filled the brakes with dash 5, the silicone fluid, and it
leaks
out of the slave cylinder. It doesn't leak at the two fitting sites, it
is
coming from the movable cam that applies pressure to the pads.
Help appreciated.
Tom Friedland A 079 XS Mono Jab Airmaster
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