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1. 12:16 AM - RE : Tailplane Balance (mau11)
2. 02:03 AM - Re: Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel trailer (R.C.Harrison)
3. 02:45 AM - Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel trailer (Graham Singleton)
4. 03:04 AM - Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel trailer (Graham Singleton)
5. 03:08 AM - Tailplane Balance (Graham Singleton)
6. 03:37 AM - Re: Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel trailer (Jos Okhuijsen)
7. 06:30 AM - Re: TST template and Trim Bellcrank. (John & Amy Eckel)
8. 06:36 AM - Re: TST template and Trim Bellcrank. (John & Amy Eckel)
9. 07:01 AM - Finger Brakes (JEFF ROBERTS)
10. 09:46 AM - NONONO (KARL HEINDL)
11. 10:19 AM - MTOW in USA (Fred R. Klein)
12. 10:41 AM - Manifold Pressure Gauge??? (Bryan Allsop)
13. 11:36 AM - Re: Manifold Pressure Gauge??? (Richard Holder)
14. 11:37 AM - Re: Manifold Pressure Gauge??? (Simon Smith)
15. 12:49 PM - Re: Warp Drive Props (Duncan McFadyean)
16. 01:21 PM - Re: MTOW in USA (Paul McAllister)
17. 02:16 PM - Re: Manifold Pressure Gauge??? (Vaughn Teegarden)
18. 02:54 PM - Re: Manifold Pressure Gauge??? (Richard Holder)
19. 04:15 PM - Re: Tailplane Balance (Rob Housman)
20. 06:57 PM - Re: Tailplane Balance (SPurpura@aol.com)
21. 07:04 PM - Re: Tailplane Balance (Cliff Shaw)
22. 07:11 PM - Tailplane Balance Arm (MJKTuck@cs.com)
23. 08:23 PM - Re: Tailplane Balance Arm (Paul McAllister)
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Subject: | Tailplane Balance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
Hello Terry,
Congratulations for your web site it is very interesting.
Why you don't used a carburetor cups I think it is good for safety if
unleaded run up to the carb. If you are interested I have drawings for
cups mod (because skydrive heater)and many others mods drawings.
Do you have drawings of your monowheel gear leg support stand?
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Michel AUVRAY N145
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De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Terry
Seaver
Envoy : jeudi 27 janvier 2005 01:01
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Hi Jim,
After the tailplanes have been painted, some of the mass balance weight
has to be cut off. Some people have cut their weights into many pieces
of varying size/weight, and then iteratively tried combinations until
the tailplanes balanced.
We used a more deterministic method, which only required a single cut to
get good balance. The procedure can be found in our 'Europa Mods and
Building Tips', a copy of which can be seen at:
http://terryseaver.home.comcast.net/europa_page.html
entitled 'Tailplane mass balance procedure'
regards,
Terry Seaver
Jim Butcher wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
> Can someone point me to where the manual gives instruction for
> adjusting the tailplane mass balance. Chapter 20 merely says the
> final position of the weights will be determined after the tail planes
> are painted.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim & Heather A185
> XS 914 short wings
> paint done, electrical about done, ready to hang engine
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel |
trailer
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Cliff/All.
I would suggest that you give consideration to the fact that it is
possible to do as much damage holding the a/c down by tie-downs as the
supports.
In my case I have a large covered trailer which doesn't flex and since
it is a double axle with linked suspension between the two it has an
excellent smooth ride . I never tie down anything other than I leave the
winch tension on the rear wheel spring arm which although a trike I
retain for winching the fuselage up the ramps tail first into the park
position between the two wings which each sit on saddles and with the
spars into stands.(but of course there's no windage factors to
consider.)
THE fuselage is chocked on the main gear both front and rear of the
wheels also in front of the nose gear on the central ramp. Then each end
of the tail plane torque tube has carpet covered packing /spacers of the
correct width to wedge it between the wings.
It has suffered no damage over a few thousand miles and is unpacked and
re-packed every time I fly going on 5 years.
Personally I think the main key to a smooth ride is a weighty trailer
with large wheels and radial tyres at low pressure. Mine doesn't even
bounce when empty on country roads at speeds up to 70mph. and has been
up to 90mph on trunk roads
...... but only on test of course!
My perception of transportation is that you need to remember that your
bird has cost you upwards of 70,000 including labour so what's an
additional couple of K's between that and peace of mind?
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa 337 MK1/ Jabiru 3300.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Shaw
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel
trailer
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
All
Having given this much too much thought I have developed a question.
The question is; Given that the trailer might be subjected to 20 G
forces,
at what point is the fuselage strong enough to withstand such a force?
Put
another way, Where are you going to tie on to the fuselage that is that
strong?
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
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Subject: | Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 26/01/2005 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
>
>I am forced to speak in my own defense.
>
>This is the second time in as many weeks that what I have said or done in
>this forum has been rebuked by another member. (highly respected in each
>case) I am not sure whether I would be complemented of offended.
Cliff
I haven't seen your pictures so could be wrong, but I'm sure I can speak
for Nev on this. we only spoke because we care about you!
Graham
Ferg said much better than I, he makes me smile every time and I know he's
wiser than me....??:-)
you need no defence either, but taken with a bit of salt on the
tail, we can all bite our lips and forge ahead without rancor. Tell him to
go to Hell and do your own thing, but if he says 'don't piddle with it',
then don't. He;s thinking of us surfers. May your camel reach the oasis
every time.
Ferg
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Subject: | Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel trailer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 26/01/2005 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
>Having given this much too much thought I have developed a question.
>
>The question is; Given that the trailer might be subjected to 20 G forces,
>at what point is the fuselage strong enough to withstand such a force? Put
>another way, Where are you going to tie on to the fuselage that is that
>strong?
>
>Cliff Shaw
Cliff
the brain is like a muscle, the moire you use it the stronger it gets?!?
If you strap down with polypropylene straps pulling the tire down hard the
G will be damped out and the energy dissipated warming the straps and the tire.
Graham
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Subject: | Tailplane Balance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 26/01/2005 -0800, you wrote:
>My weights are all the way rearward. I then drilled all around the
>forward most weight with ever increasing drill bit sizes, until the
>tailplane came into balance...
>
>--
>Rocketman -
If the weights are all the way forward less weight will be needed. In fact
it would be even lighter if lead or tungsten was used. All about the moment
arm.
Graham
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Subject: | Re: Stabilizing the airframe when on the monowheel |
trailer
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Cliff,
The 20 G has to be dampened and the landing gear is doing just that. The
factory trailer fixes the main wheel (mono) and the tail wheel. Result is,
the aircraft is moving on it's own suspension in relation to the trailer.
Now, if you would fix any other part of the aircraft to the trailer, the
whole shock load will be applied to that point. So unless that point is
very large, such as the major part of the bottom or so, damage will occur.
My worry with the factory trailer would be the forces during cornering,
where there will be a lot of force on the rim of the mair wheel.
Jos Okhuijsen
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Subject: | Re: TST template and Trim Bellcrank. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
Brian,
I used MS21047-3 anchor nuts to hold theTS01 and 02 brackets in place.
The trim servo is held in place with Tee nuts that can be bought in any
hardware store. I used Tee nuts instead of MS anchor nuts because I didn't
have
the right size in stock. I will send you a picture on my nuts...the ones on
the plane.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: <EuropaXSA276@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: TST template and Trim Bellcrank.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 1/26/2005 3:26:20 PM Central Standard Time,
> eckel1@comcast.net writes:
> My torque tube measures 1.5 inches in Dia, the same as the template.
> The template rests directly on the torque tube, see Fig. 5.
>
> Suggestion--when mounting the TS01 and TS02 brackets use anchor nuts.
> The same for the MAC trim servo. It will make removal and installation
> of these parts so much easier if the need arises. (Ron Parigoris idea)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Good idea on those nutz John. As much as I do not what to think about
> it...
> That servo will have to be replaced at some point. What kind of anchor
> nuts
> did you use?
>
> Back on this template. Did you use the template with the TP9 installed on
> the tube?
> The bolt will just barley touch with the trim assembly on center line and
> the
> template on the tube and edge on the TP9. I can lean the template over for
> good contact but that lowers the bracket!
>
> Having one of those days....
>
> Brian Skelly
> Texas
> Europa # A276 TriGear
> See My build photos at:
> http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: TST template and Trim Bellcrank. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
Brian,
After I hit send I realized I didn't answer the second part of your
question.
The TP9 should be moved out of the way of the template or not even installed
on the torque tube while you are doing the alignment.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: <EuropaXSA276@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: TST template and Trim Bellcrank.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 1/26/2005 3:26:20 PM Central Standard Time,
> eckel1@comcast.net writes:
> My torque tube measures 1.5 inches in Dia, the same as the template.
> The template rests directly on the torque tube, see Fig. 5.
>
> Suggestion--when mounting the TS01 and TS02 brackets use anchor nuts.
> The same for the MAC trim servo. It will make removal and installation
> of these parts so much easier if the need arises. (Ron Parigoris idea)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Good idea on those nutz John. As much as I do not what to think about
> it...
> That servo will have to be replaced at some point. What kind of anchor
> nuts
> did you use?
>
> Back on this template. Did you use the template with the TP9 installed on
> the tube?
> The bolt will just barley touch with the trim assembly on center line and
> the
> template on the tube and edge on the TP9. I can lean the template over for
> good contact but that lowers the bracket!
>
> Having one of those days....
>
> Brian Skelly
> Texas
> Europa # A276 TriGear
> See My build photos at:
> http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
Before I consider filling my brake system with the Dot 5, I remember a
large thread on the subject. I seam to remember someone changing seals
or the o rings to accommodate air craft fluid. I will search the
threads, but if there is anyone out there that has success over time
with this I would love to hear about it. Dot 5 is hard to find so it
looks like I will have to order it. Also would it be recommended to
take the duel cylinders apart and clean them before filling the system?
They have been sitting around for 3 or 4 years and if it needs to be
done, now is the time.
Thanks, in advance.
Bets Regards to all,
Jeff
A258
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
While on the subject of trailers, here is another NONONO for those of you
who use a factory built trailer, where the tailplanes are simply stuck onto
vertical tubes.
Due to strong oscillations caused by road surface and wind, the Mickey Mouse
TP5 inboard tubes will work themselves loose. Remember, they are bonded into
foam with 5-minute epoxy. I had to reinstall them into a thick bed of floxed
redux. Since then I carry the tailplanes in the back of my car.
Tying down a trigear is easy so long as the speed kit is NOT ftted. Once it
is fitted there are no more points for lashing the tiedown straps. My
solution was to fit marine issue ss 8mm eyebolts into the fuselage right
next to the top of the legs, just outside the fairings. The holes are
drilled through the flange of the leg's steel sockets for strength, and this
is also the strongest part of the fuselage. Of course it would have been
very easy to do before fitting the plywood pieces.
The eyebolts serve a double purpose, because prior to tiedown I use these
attachment points for pulling the aircraft onto the trailer with my trailer
mounted winch. I used the same type eyebolts for my wing and tail tiedowns.
The nose wheel is easily tied down by feeding a rope through the open
left-right tube near the top of the leg, and then tying it around the
trailer part below.
Karl C-FIRS 392 trigear with 912S
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
To those lucky fellows currently flying in the USA,
Is anybody flying or approved for more than the listed 1370# MTOW?..if so,
could you share your numbers and any problems getting any such approval?
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Manifold Pressure Gauge??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
I was advised to buy a Manifold Press Gauge from Skydrive for my Rotax. They said
that they do not sell them,- "try Light Aero Spares", was their suggestion.
LAS say they can only supply a large gauge for which I have no room in my panel.
They suggested Skydrive.
To avoid any further ringing around, can anyone in the UK tell me where I can get
a small gauge which is suitable for use with the 912s manifold.
Cheers. Bryan
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Subject: | Re: Manifold Pressure Gauge??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
I bought mine from Europa - a 2 1/4 inch gauge - around 75 GBP plus VAT :-(
Also available from Aircraft Spruce for rather less money, but I was
desperate :-(
Richard
Bryan Allsop wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
>
> I was advised to buy a Manifold Press Gauge from Skydrive for my Rotax. They
said that they do not sell them,- "try Light Aero Spares", was their suggestion.
>
> LAS say they can only supply a large gauge for which I have no room in my panel.
They suggested Skydrive.
>
> To avoid any further ringing around, can anyone in the UK tell me where I can
get a small gauge which is suitable for use with the 912s manifold.
>
> Cheers. Bryan
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Subject: | Manifold Pressure Gauge??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Didn't the factory sell one?
Failing that, there is a seller on eBay called Lowtension Ltd who seem to
sell a wide range of VDO gauges.
Try giving them a ring on 01827 250004
Simon
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Allsop
Subject: Europa-List: Manifold Pressure Gauge???
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop"
--> <bryan@blackballclub.com>
I was advised to buy a Manifold Press Gauge from Skydrive for my Rotax. They
said that they do not sell them,- "try Light Aero Spares", was their
suggestion.
LAS say they can only supply a large gauge for which I have no room in my
panel. They suggested Skydrive.
To avoid any further ringing around, can anyone in the UK tell me where I
can get a small gauge which is suitable for use with the 912s manifold.
Cheers. Bryan
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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Subject: | Re: Warp Drive Props |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I thought it was 65" diameter for the tri-gear version?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Warp Drive Props
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
> The info is there on the Airmaster site.. but you had to dig a bit
deeper....
>
> 64" Wide Chord for the XS 912S/914
> 64" Tapered for the XS 912
> 62" Tapered for the Classic 912
>
> Regards
>
> Tony
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of N55XS
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Warp Drive Props
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
>
> Cliff Shaw wrote:
>
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
> >
> >http://www.airmasterpropellers.com/wa.asp?idWebPage3474
> >
> >Cliff Shaw
> >1041 Euclid ave.
> >Edmonds, WA 98020
> >425 776 5555
> >http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thanks, Cliff, but I'm looking for the specs on the Warp Drive used on
> the 912S. Anyone?
>
> --
> Jeff A055
> Ready for paint and FWF
> Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Fred,
Based on information posted on the old Europa WEB site I used 1450 as my
MTOW. The FAA showed little or no interest in what I put on the data plate,
I assume that it passed his "reasonableness test" when he looked.
As your no doubt aware its the builder who is certifying the parameters of
the aircraft, not the FAA, so at the end of the day it is my responsibility,
not theirs.
Paul
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Subject: | Re: Manifold Pressure Gauge??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
Richard was correct. I just recieved my FWF kit from Europa 2004 and it
included a UMC manifold pressure gauge. Mine is for a Rotax 914, but
Aircraft Spruce sells two 2 1/4" UMC gauges that register from 10"Hg to
35'Hg or 50"Hg. Both for $89.75 US. Interestingly enough, they are made
right here in Virginia.
Vaughn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Manifold Pressure Gauge???
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop"
<bryan@blackballclub.com>
>
> I was advised to buy a Manifold Press Gauge from Skydrive for my Rotax.
They said that they do not sell them,- "try Light Aero Spares", was their
suggestion.
>
> LAS say they can only supply a large gauge for which I have no room in my
panel. They suggested Skydrive.
>
> To avoid any further ringing around, can anyone in the UK tell me where I
can get a small gauge which is suitable for use with the 912s manifold.
>
> Cheers. Bryan
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Manifold Pressure Gauge??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Vaughn Teegarden wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
>
> Richard was correct. I just recieved my FWF kit from Europa 2004 and it
> included a UMC manifold pressure gauge. Mine is for a Rotax 914, but
> Aircraft Spruce sells two 2 1/4" UMC gauges that register from 10"Hg to
> 35'Hg or 50"Hg. Both for $89.75 US. Interestingly enough, they are made
> right here in Virginia.
>
> Vaughn
Actually the MAP gauge (reading 0 - 50 Inches) is supplied with the 914
engine as MAP is vital with a turbocharged engine. It is not supplied
with the 912S.
ACS also sell a cheaper gauge for $42.80 (p 362 in the latest
catalogue). The other one is on P 352.
WIth the 912S you need the 0 - 35 inches gauge.
But Bryan, remember that you will done for VAT and delivery and the PO
handling charge. Best to make use of the delivery from the US to get
other goodies, like cables ! And it takes 10 - 14 days. You can order on
line, quicker than ordering through ACS (Europe) in Hitchin.
HTH
Richard
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Subject: | Tailplane Balance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <robh@hyperion-ef.us>
Graham:
You are correct of course that a longer moment arm (i. e., all the way
forward) would require less mass to balance the tailplane but the density of
the material (to which you allude in mentioning lead and tungsten - depleted
uranium's greater density would be even better) simply affects the size of
that mass, not its "weight."
In order to take advantage of the higher density of an alternate material
(should anyone care to do so) the axial dimension of the counterweight must
be reduced, the diameter kept at the maximum permitted for clearance at the
top and bottom of its movement range, and the counterweight must be mounted
full forward. That would result in a slight reduction of the mass required
for balance.
Lead is cheap and the same mass counterweight would be about three fourths
as long as the steel weights supplied with the kit. Tungsten is very
expensive and impossible to machine with conventional methods (gold has
about the same density but is very easy to machine), but would reduce the
length by a bit more than half. Most of us can't afford that much gold or
tungsten nor do we have access to depleted uranium :)
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graham Singleton
Subject: Europa-List: Tailplane Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 26/01/2005 -0800, you wrote:
>My weights are all the way rearward. I then drilled all around the
>forward most weight with ever increasing drill bit sizes, until the
>tailplane came into balance...
>
>--
>Rocketman -
If the weights are all the way forward less weight will be needed. In fact
it would be even lighter if lead or tungsten was used. All about the moment
arm.
Graham
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--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
VERY WELL PUT ROB.
SAM N77EU
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
All
I will tell a little story on myself. I positioned the mass guide framework
a bit too far to the nose of my Europa. This gave me trouble getting enough
up and down movement of the tail plains. I "had" to make my weights out of
lead so they could be smaller in diameter (see pictures page 8 of my
pictures). I did not change the total weight, just make them smaller. That
solved my problem. (I suppose the framework was only 2 inches off)
Just an aside. Note that you can see the trailer braces that caused all the
up-roar on page 12 and 13 of my pictures. I added some captions.
Incidentally despite Nev. warning the braces work very well. Look and see
what you are all worrying about. It is a very good way to solve a bad
problem (fuselage fall off the trailer in a turn)
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
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--> Europa-List message posted by: MJKTuck@cs.com
Hi Guys,
All the e-mail on the tail balance arm has reminded me about the balance arm
failure in the UK. Is there any word yet on what failed. Shouldn't we be
looking for any tell tail signs before next flight or something?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Martin,
I saw a brief reference in the Europa Flyer that I received yesterday.
There was an acknowledgement of the issue by Europa 2004 and that the matter
was currently under investigation. They set the expectation that a
modification will be required, but didn't state the time frame when it would
be issued.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: <MJKTuck@cs.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Tailplane Balance Arm
> --> Europa-List message posted by: MJKTuck@cs.com
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> All the e-mail on the tail balance arm has reminded me about the balance
arm
> failure in the UK. Is there any word yet on what failed. Shouldn't we be
> looking for any tell tail signs before next flight or something?
>
> Regards,
> Martin Tuck
> N152MT
> Wichita, Kansas
>
>
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