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Fri 02/04/05


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:06 AM - Re: Flap drive and GE12E bearing (John Cliff)
     2. 01:36 AM - Re: Flap drive and GE12E bearing (Duncan McFadyean)
     3. 05:19 AM - Re: IFR redundancy, was 2nd battery (Fred Fillinger)
     4. 05:28 AM - Re: IFR redundancy, was 2nd battery (Garry)
     5. 06:53 AM - Re: Flap drive and GE12E bearing (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
     6. 10:54 AM - Europa 2004 (John & Amy Eckel)
     7. 01:17 PM - Re: DC Headsets (Trevpond@aol.com)
     8. 01:18 PM - Europa for sale (Paul Boulet)
     9. 01:28 PM - Europa 2004 (Vaughn Teegarden)
    10. 01:40 PM - Re: Europa for sale (Al Stills)
    11. 02:42 PM - Re: Europa 2004 (Andrew Sarangan)
    12. 03:28 PM - Re: Europa 2004 (John & Amy Eckel)
    13. 04:21 PM - Re: Europa 2004 (Vaughn Teegarden)
    14. 05:21 PM - C/S propellers (Fred R. Klein)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:06:17 AM PST US
    From: "John Cliff" <mx@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Flap drive and GE12E bearing
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff" <mx@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk> > Dear All > Has anyone had a problem with rigging their aircraft and the GE12E bearing? > I have been getting ready for final assembly and found that 1) my bearings have seized and 2) without the flaps the wings plug in easily, with the flaps it is a pig. > Have I done something wrong or is there a fix that others have come up with. > Thanks in anticipation. > Steve Pitt #403 Tri gear XS Yes, I found that one of my flap drive pins was badly shaped, oversize round the circumference of the hemispherical end - that wing was a brute to get on and off. I bought a new pin and bearing to help localise the problem. In the end, minor grinding with a stone wheel in the dremel round the 'ridge line' fixed it. John Cliff #0259


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    Time: 01:36:54 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Flap drive and GE12E bearing
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Another cause of this problem (not mentioned in the other responses) is that, if the bearing is not fully home in its retainer, it will rotate too far out of alignment and make it 'impossible' for the flap drive pin to engage. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> Subject: Europa-List: Flap drive and GE12E bearing > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> > > Dear All > Has anyone had a problem with rigging their aircraft and the GE12E bearing? > I have been getting ready for final assembly and found that 1) my bearings have seized and 2) without the flaps the wings plug in easily, with the flaps it is a pig. > Have I done something wrong or is there a fix that others have come up with. > Thanks in anticipation. > Steve Pitt #403 Tri gear XS > >


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    Time: 05:19:48 AM PST US
    From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: IFR redundancy, was 2nd battery
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net> > "Jos Okhuijsen" wrote: > ... > But it is true, that although modern electronics hardware is a > factor 10.000 more reliable then mechanical parts, An instrument shop tells me that RC Allen electric gyros are very rugged, so say a lowball 1,000 hours MTBF is good. That means then an electronic gyro box by a little Mom & Pop company is assumed to be 10,000 hrs MTBF? They may be very good items to buy based on limited user feedback, but how could they establish such a MTBF, or assumed by us if Mom or Pop can't? I have a couple Monroy air traffic detectors now, which work very well, but it has to be a one-man company. He's the only guy who ever answers the phone, and he (the design guy) once told me he outsources the PC boards, so I guess he assembles them into cases, and answers the phone, and works his web site. I'll ask their "QC Dept" about MTBF next phone call... :-) Reg, Fred F.


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    Time: 05:28:18 AM PST US
    From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: IFR redundancy, was 2nd battery
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com> Just a side note............My RC Allen electric gyro has been the LEAST reliable part in my entire airplane. I have had it back to their shop for repair and overhaul three times, and finally demanded that they replace it entirely. The new one has been in service for about 6 months now, and seems to work OK, but the original one was terrible. Garry Stout N4220S trigear, 400 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Europa-List: IFR redundancy, was 2nd battery > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net> > >> "Jos Okhuijsen" wrote: >> ... >> But it is true, that although modern electronics hardware is a >> factor 10.000 more reliable then mechanical parts, > > An instrument shop tells me that RC Allen electric gyros are very > rugged, so say a lowball 1,000 hours MTBF is good. That means then an > electronic gyro box by a little Mom & Pop company is assumed to be > 10,000 hrs MTBF? They may be very good items to buy based on limited > user feedback, but how could they establish such a MTBF, or assumed by > us if Mom or Pop can't? > > I have a couple Monroy air traffic detectors now, which work very > well, but it has to be a one-man company. He's the only guy who ever > answers the phone, and he (the design guy) once told me he outsources > the PC boards, so I guess he assembles them into cases, and answers > the phone, and works his web site. I'll ask their "QC Dept" about > MTBF next phone call... :-) > > Reg, > Fred F. > > >


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    Time: 06:53:36 AM PST US
    From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Flap drive and GE12E bearing
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Hi all. I had exactly the same problem when rigging my stbd wing. Port one went home without a hitch. (Still in the build process though - further rigging problems at "hold"). On the forum some time ago a member mentioned he had made a pointed extension out of Redux (Araldite 420)/flox to the end of the flap drive pin - which ended his problem. Going to try this when time comes. Cheers, Hans. #334 in Norway. hansjd@online.no


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    Time: 10:54:26 AM PST US
    From: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Europa 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net> Just to let you know that Europa 2004 is alive and well. I ordered a FWF kit last year. My kit and others were shipped over the holidays and I now have mine sitting in my shop. The team at Europa did a fine job of getting the order together. Andy said there is another container shipping in March, so if you need anything this might be a good time to order. John Eckel, A230 Mounting the landing gear


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    Time: 01:17:21 PM PST US
    From: Trevpond@aol.com
    Subject: Re: DC Headsets
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Trevpond@aol.com Hi Alan, Was down RD Aviation today dropping my aircraft in and I took my headsets with me to try them with the Intercom. Everything was fine and a friend of mine who was with me tried them and now wants a pair for his new Europa. Any chance? How was the States whilst you were there? I understand that Wilson changed all the locks on John's Hangar!!! kind regards Trev


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    Time: 01:18:43 PM PST US
    From: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Europa for sale
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com> Hi All; After much gut wrenching I've decided to sell my beautiful bird. It's an XS Monowheel with more bells/whistles than most. The selling price is about 1/3 less than what I've got into it (not counting my time. I'll provide packing and shipping to any country too. Plane is currently in Arizona. Email me off forum if any interest. Thank you, Paul Boulet, N914PB Malibu, California John & Amy Eckel <eckel1@comcast.net> wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" Just to let you know that Europa 2004 is alive and well. I ordered a FWF kit last year. My kit and others were shipped over the holidays and I now have mine sitting in my shop. The team at Europa did a fine job of getting the order together. Andy said there is another container shipping in March, so if you need anything this might be a good time to order. John Eckel, A230 Mounting the landing gear


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    Time: 01:28:16 PM PST US
    From: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
    Subject: Europa 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net> I wish to add to the endorsement of Europa 2004. Shortly after they took the reins, I called to let them know that I would be needing a FWF kit when they were able. On November #, 2004 I recieved an email from Roger Bull that informed me that they were gathering items to put in a container for shipment to the USA. I ordered a 914 FWF kit at that time with delivery to be soon after the holidays. On Jan 20 I got word from the shipping agent that the order was in and ready for shipment. It was all complete and in very good condition Andy has been very helpful when I have had construction questions and undoubtedly has saved me from some redo's and the ensueing bad language. Good for all of them! May they prosper and do well! Thanks guys. Vaughn


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    Time: 01:40:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Europa for sale
    From: "Al Stills" <astills@senecawholesale.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Al Stills" <astills@senecawholesale.com> Paul Sorry to hear you have to sell your "bird". I've seen it Falcon Field and a beautiful bird it is. Al Stills N625Az


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    Time: 02:42:59 PM PST US
    From: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Re: Europa 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> I also ordered a FWF kit in the container coming in March. Can you tell me how the shipping logistics work? Last I heard you have to pay duties and tariffs and have to make your own arrangements to transport it from the port of arrival. Is that true? --- John & Amy Eckel <eckel1@comcast.net> wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" > <eckel1@comcast.net> > > Just to let you know that Europa 2004 is alive and well. > I ordered a FWF kit last year. My kit and others were > shipped over the holidays and I now have mine sitting in > my shop. The team at Europa did a fine job of getting the > order together. Andy said there is another container shipping > in March, so if you need anything this might be a good time to > order. > > John Eckel, A230 > Mounting the landing gear > > > > > > > > > ===== Andrew Sarangan http://www.geocities.com/asarangan


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    Time: 03:28:54 PM PST US
    From: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Europa 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net> Andrew, You are partly right. I did not have to pay any duties of tariffs. The container was shipped to Airship Management in Elizabeth City, NC and I was responsible for picking it up of having it shipped. Another builder picked mine up for me and delivered it around midnight in a major snowstorm. I was supposed to be with him but I was suffering in sunny and warm San Diego. The rest of his trip was a nightmare. He broke down on the NJ Turnpike about 2 in the morning and could get no service from U-Haul. He finally got it started and made it to a motel. The next day he was towed to a U-Haul place and got another truck. This one also gave him problems and completely died when he returned it to U-Haul. By rights he should have no further problems during his build. Guess where he will never rent another truck. By the way...his initials are Ron Parigoris and his friend Wayne. Hope they are still friends. Hope I didn't scare you away from picking up your kit yourself. John, A230 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa 2004 > --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> > > I also ordered a FWF kit in the container coming in March. Can you tell > me how the shipping logistics work? Last I heard you have to pay duties > and tariffs and have to make your own arrangements to transport it from > the port of arrival. Is that true? > > > --- John & Amy Eckel <eckel1@comcast.net> wrote: > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" >> <eckel1@comcast.net> >> >> Just to let you know that Europa 2004 is alive and well. >> I ordered a FWF kit last year. My kit and others were >> shipped over the holidays and I now have mine sitting in >> my shop. The team at Europa did a fine job of getting the >> order together. Andy said there is another container shipping >> in March, so if you need anything this might be a good time to >> order. >> >> John Eckel, A230 >> Mounting the landing gear >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ===== > Andrew Sarangan > http://www.geocities.com/asarangan > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:21:49 PM PST US
    From: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
    Subject: Re: Europa 2004
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net> My FWF kit came in a 46 inch x 38 inch x 26 inch cardboard box that weighted 65 lbs. Since it was too large to fit in the backseat of my car, I towed a small motorcycle trailer over to Airship Management to pick it up. By lowering the trailer tire pressure to 15#, the box got a good smooth ride. Weather was sunny & 48 degrees, a nice day for a drive. Vaughn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa 2004 > --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> > > I also ordered a FWF kit in the container coming in March. Can you tell > me how the shipping logistics work? Last I heard you have to pay duties > and tariffs and have to make your own arrangements to transport it from > the port of arrival. Is that true? > > > --- John & Amy Eckel <eckel1@comcast.net> wrote: > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" > > <eckel1@comcast.net> > > > > Just to let you know that Europa 2004 is alive and well. > > I ordered a FWF kit last year. My kit and others were > > shipped over the holidays and I now have mine sitting in > > my shop. The team at Europa did a fine job of getting the > > order together. Andy said there is another container shipping > > in March, so if you need anything this might be a good time to > > order. > > > > John Eckel, A230 > > Mounting the landing gear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > Andrew Sarangan > http://www.geocities.com/asarangan > >


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    Time: 05:21:49 PM PST US
    Subject: C/S propellers
    From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> Hi All, Is there anyone out there who either: - is flying with an IVOPROP? - has purchased one? or - has considered selecting it and decided against doing so?.. and would be willing to share their thoughts? Fred A194




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