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1. 05:44 AM - Build manual in Portuguese (Alexander Kaarsberg)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Underseat cavities (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
3. 07:04 AM - Re: Grumman Tiger (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
4. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Grumman Tiger (Sven den Boer)
5. 09:58 AM - IVOPROP (Rowland Carson)
6. 10:06 AM - Static connection (Gerry Holland)
7. 10:28 AM - Re: Static connection (Paul Boulet)
8. 11:52 AM - Re: Static connection (Timothy.P.Ward)
9. 12:12 PM - Re: Static connection (Gerry Holland)
10. 12:52 PM - Re: Static connection (Duncan McFadyean)
11. 02:51 PM - Re: Re: Underseat cavities (N55XS)
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| Subject: | Build manual in Portuguese |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg" <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Dear fellow builders,
As one of many casualties of Keith Wilsons reign, I was convinced to have the Europa
build manual translated to portuguese by a professional aircraft industry
translator-..and to put up the money for it.....(!!)
Needless to say that when it came to pay back, Keith became even more difficult
to contact than normal....so he didn=B4t get a copy of it.
I have not been able to convince the new Europa to take on the cost so I now ask
the forum if there might be anybody out there who might be interested in having
the manual in Portuguese?
I have spent in the region of Brazilian Reais 12.000, which corresponds to around
US$4.500 (Which is very cheap for this kind of work) and would like to recover
at least some of that money.
Best regards,
Alex, kit 529- still waiting for me to buy engine and instruments..
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| Subject: | Re: Underseat cavities |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
In a message dated 2/11/2005 2:58:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
europa-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> Flight,
> >
> >Has anyone ever used a two part expanding foam to use in place of blue foam
> >for special sculpting uses. I want to get a custom fit for the bottom
> floor
> >area under the seats and don't really want to have to do it with pieces of
> >rigid foam which I currently have in place. Pour it in place (not directly
> >on the bottom but on plastic on the bottom), expand around all the hoses
> and
> >filters in the seat bottom and then cut the top to fit.
> >
> >Steve
> >A058
> >N15JN
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> FWIW, I chose to make a flat seat pan from a sandwich of Rohacell foam core
> and 2 layers of 'bid each side. The pan is held in place with velcro tabs. I
> made brackets out of 'bid to hold the pan panel along the inner side of the
> cavity and another one along the outter cavity, at a level even with the
> molding in the middle. The inner cavity under the seat is storage for a quart
of
> oil, fuel tester, rags, lunch etc. The outter cavity contains my headset
> jacks. This neatly contains the headset wiring and is superior to having the
head
> set jacks overhead. The headset wires just disappear behind the seat cushion.
>
> I can send you pictures of what I've done if you'd like to see them.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Lawton
> Dunlap, TN
> A-245 (Just about to make the panel go blinky-blink.)
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| Subject: | Re: Grumman Tiger |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
In a message dated 2/12/2005 3:13:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
europa-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> The closest plane to land like a tri-gear is a Grumman Tiger. The
> two seat Grummans are close but the Tiger is spot on charicteristic wise.
Having earned my pilots license in a Grumman Tiger, and having flown several
Cheetahs, TR-2's and Grumman trainers, this was my exact observation when I
took my first flight with John Hurst in his trigear demo prior to purchasing
A-245.
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245 (Just about to make the panel go blinky-blink.)
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| Subject: | Re: Grumman Tiger |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
Try the DA20 Katana....?
----- Original Message -----
From: <TELEDYNMCS@aol.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Grumman Tiger
> --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/12/2005 3:13:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> europa-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>
> > The closest plane to land like a tri-gear is a Grumman Tiger. The
> > two seat Grummans are close but the Tiger is spot on charicteristic
wise.
>
> Having earned my pilots license in a Grumman Tiger, and having flown
several
> Cheetahs, TR-2's and Grumman trainers, this was my exact observation when
I
> took my first flight with John Hurst in his trigear demo prior to
purchasing
> A-245.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Lawton
> Dunlap, TN
> A-245 (Just about to make the panel go blinky-blink.)
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
I've had a chance to speak briefly with the owner of the
IVOPROP-equipped Europa. Although it's working reasonably well now,
he says he would not choose that prop again.
It suffered severe vibration when first installed, so bad that it
sometimes affected the governor and caused it to run to full coarse.
Took a long time and a lot of work to get it more satisfactory. He's
still not convinced that it's giving the best cruise performance as
he can't get more than 120kt in level flight.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Static connection |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Hi to all.
Im just finalising the Pitot/Static tubing at rear of Panel and would be
interested in some feedback from those Flying their Europas.
Has everyone use a traditional STATIC connection to the outside world or
have some of you found the Static is OK when vented from within the Cabin
area?
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
PSS AoA Fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
Mobile: +44 7808 402404
WebFax: +44 870 7059985
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Static connection |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
if I was doing it over again I'd vent inside the
cabin...
Paul Boulet, N914PB
--- Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland
> <gnholland@onetel.com>
>
> Hi to all.
>
> Im just finalising the Pitot/Static tubing at rear
> of Panel and would be
> interested in some feedback from those Flying their
> Europas.
>
> Has everyone use a traditional STATIC connection to
> the outside world or
> have some of you found the Static is OK when vented
> from within the Cabin
> area?
>
> Regards
>
> Gerry
>
> Europa 384 G-FIZY
> Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
> Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70
> Transponder.
> PSS AoA Fitted.
>
> http://www.g-fizy.com
> Mobile: +44 7808 402404
> WebFax: +44 870 7059985
> gnholland@onetel.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Static connection |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Timothy.P.Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
Gerry,
I used the tradition static connection. When calibrating the airspeed during the
flight testing, the position error was very small. (accurately achieved these
days with the help of GPS!!!)I have therefore installed a tee from the static
line behind the panel leading to the cabin below the panel and within reach
of the pilot. This is my alternate source however I haven't check it but have
heard from other flyers it is just as good.
Cheers,
Tim
>
> From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
> Date: 2005/02/13 Sun AM 07:04:25 GMT+13:00
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Static connection
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
>
> Hi to all.
>
> Im just finalising the Pitot/Static tubing at rear of Panel and would be
> interested in some feedback from those Flying their Europas.
>
> Has everyone use a traditional STATIC connection to the outside world or
> have some of you found the Static is OK when vented from within the Cabin
> area?
>
> Regards
>
> Gerry
>
> Europa 384 G-FIZY
> Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
> Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
> PSS AoA Fitted.
>
> http://www.g-fizy.com
> Mobile: +44 7808 402404
> WebFax: +44 870 7059985
> gnholland@onetel.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Static connection |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Tim Hi!
Many thanks for the Static source information.
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Static connection |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I too use cockpit static and find it to be as "accurate" as the Factory wing
mounted position. That is, it makes no measurable difference to the
airspeed.
What I have not checked particularly accurately is what difference it makes
to Mode C altitude reporting.
If the static pressure was out by a couple of mph then this would go
unnoticed during ASI 'calibration' but could result in altitude misreporting
of 30' or so, which could be enough to make a marginally acceptable Mode C
set-up unacceptable.
Perhaps someone would like to check my maths on this one. Has anyone tried
placing a sensitive ASI across both statics to see if there is a significant
differential?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Static connection
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
>
> Hi to all.
>
> Im just finalising the Pitot/Static tubing at rear of Panel and would be
> interested in some feedback from those Flying their Europas.
>
> Has everyone use a traditional STATIC connection to the outside world or
> have some of you found the Static is OK when vented from within the Cabin
> area?
>
> Regards
>
> Gerry
>
> Europa 384 G-FIZY
> Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
> Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
> PSS AoA Fitted.
>
> http://www.g-fizy.com
> Mobile: +44 7808 402404
> WebFax: +44 870 7059985
> gnholland@onetel.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Underseat cavities |
--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
TELEDYNMCS@aol.com wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 2/11/2005 2:58:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>europa-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>
>
>
>>Flight,
>>
>>
>>>Has anyone ever used a two part expanding foam to use in place of blue foam
>>>for special sculpting uses. I want to get a custom fit for the bottom
>>>
>>>
>>floor
>>
>>
>>>area under the seats and don't really want to have to do it with pieces of
>>>rigid foam which I currently have in place. Pour it in place (not directly
>>>on the bottom but on plastic on the bottom), expand around all the hoses
>>>
>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>filters in the seat bottom and then cut the top to fit.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>A058
>>>N15JN
>>>
>>>
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>FWIW, I chose to make a flat seat pan from a sandwich of Rohacell foam core
>>and 2 layers of 'bid each side. The pan is held in place with velcro tabs. I
>>made brackets out of 'bid to hold the pan panel along the inner side of the
>>cavity and another one along the outter cavity, at a level even with the
>>molding in the middle. The inner cavity under the seat is storage for a quart
of
>>oil, fuel tester, rags, lunch etc. The outter cavity contains my headset
>>jacks. This neatly contains the headset wiring and is superior to having the
head
>>set jacks overhead. The headset wires just disappear behind the seat cushion.
>>
>>I can send you pictures of what I've done if you'd like to see them.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>John Lawton
>>Dunlap, TN
>>A-245 (Just about to make the panel go blinky-blink.)
>>
>>
I used plywood to construct a removable seat bottom. Pics at my site,
May 30 entry...
--
Jeff - A055
Ready for paint and waiting for FWF, engine and prop.
Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
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