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1. 12:09 AM - Re: Speed Vs. Air density. (Kingsley Hurst)
2. 12:16 AM - Re: Speed Vs. Air density. (Jeremy Davey)
3. 02:41 AM - Rotax Fuel Return Restrictor (Kingsley Hurst)
4. 03:09 AM - Was\Re: Speed Vs. Air density.Now Fuel Pipe. (R.C.Harrison)
5. 04:44 AM - Re: Anguish.......... (Alexander Kaarsberg)
6. 04:53 AM - Re: Rotax Fuel Return Restrictor (R.C.Harrison)
7. 05:10 AM - Re: Anguish.......... (KARL HEINDL)
8. 06:52 AM - Re: Speed Vs. Air density. (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter)
9. 06:56 AM - Re:Icom A200 ()
10. 09:26 AM - Re: Speed Vs. Air density. (Mike Gregory)
11. 11:36 AM - Re: Anguish.......... (Carl Pattinson)
12. 11:53 AM - DOTH Tue 15th Shobden (Paddy Clarke)
13. 12:19 PM - Re: Anguish.......... (Duncan McFadyean)
14. 12:40 PM - Warning lamps (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
15. 01:25 PM - Motor mounts? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
16. 03:50 PM - Re: Icom A-200 Comm (N55XS)
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| Subject: | Speed Vs. Air density. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> I was wondering if some that was a little more versed in aerodynamics
could quantify my observations. I am finding that with my 914 Turbo
that for a constant power setting I pick up some where between 1.5 ~ 2.0
knots per 1000'. Is this valid or just wishful thinking.
Paul,
I take it you are talking about TAS. I don't know the mathematics and
others will surely correct me if I am wrong, but I think your figures
would be right there in the ball park for a constant power setting at
varying altitudes. After all, isn't this WHY you purchased the 914 in
order to demonstrate this element of physics to us lesser mortals with
normally aspirated engines ? I hate that <grin>
Do not archive.
Kingsley
PS BTW, after a second go at removing the braid from the old fuel hose,
it came off very easily so I don't know what I did wrongly the first
time. Only trouble is the braid wont fit on the new hose. (just too
tight) Ah well, back to the drawing boards !
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| Subject: | Speed Vs. Air density. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
How are you measuring that, Paul? ASI, GPS corrected for wind, track/time
corrected for wind?
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1290 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister
Subject: Europa-List: Speed Vs. Air density.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I was wondering if some that was a little more versed in aerodynamics could
quantify my observations. I am finding that with my 914 Turbo that for a
constant power setting I pick up some where between 1.5 ~ 2.0 knots per
1000'. Is this valid or just wishful thinking.
Paul
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| Subject: | Rotax Fuel Return Restrictor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
All,
I don't know if the fuel return line restrictor is the same for all the
Rotax engines or not but I have just a plain vanilla Rotax 912 so . . . .
could anybody enlighten me as to the shape/dimensions and hole size in the
restrictor please.
I would have envisioned the restrictor to be just a small cylinder with a
hole down the centre but the Mod 40 instructions say to put the restrictor
in the end of the hose with its 'plain' end facing outwards. Plain end ?
makes me wonder what's on the other end ???
Thanks in anticipation.
Kingsley Hurst
Mono Classic 281 in Oz.
Lots of things still to be done.
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| Subject: | Speed Vs. Air density.Now Fuel Pipe. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Kingsley.
I have replaced most of my Europa issue fibre braided pipe with external
steel braided rubber pipe from our local Fuel wholesalers (CF Parkinson
Lucas Agents)
It was supplied to me as multi-fuel use and seems to be very adequate
for the Job. To cut it you need to bind a fair length either side of the
cut with vinyl tape and use sharp tin snips. To save stabbing your
fingers later!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Anguish.......... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg" <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
All,
Car gas/petrol all Brazil through contains between 20 and 25% alcohol, I believe
it is ethanol.
I have never gotten to speak directly to any Rotax owners about the issue, but
I have had second hand reports and there are a number of positions.
The official Rotax attitude here (and I presume it comes from Kodiak) is that automotive
fuel is not recommended due to the corrosive effects from the high water
content the alcohol CAN hold. A number of Rotax owners here say it is not
so bad in practice and that the consequenses of lead build-up is in many cases
worse when using avgas- and the difference in cost between the two compensates
for a lot anyway.
Detonation should not be an issue though, as far as I know alcohol has a high resistance
to knocking...cars that run on pure alcohol here has about 20% higher
compression rate than gas driven ones.
Some people talk of filling drums 3/4 with cargas, topping off with water, mixing
it all very well for the alcohol and the water to merge and then drain the
water out, leaving gasoline only.....
Embraer have come up with a cropsprayer that flies on alcohol only with a Lycontissaurus
engine...
Regards,
Alex, kit 529
De:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
Para:europa-list@matronics.com
C=F3pia:
Data:Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:47:01 -0500
Assunto:Re: Europa-List: Anguish..........
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle"
>
> Karl,
> That's true regarding the Rotax NO-NO, and in our case, that may
> be our saving. If the intent was to concentrate E10 in the TO. area (because
> of pollution from cars), then to maintain the 5% average, outlying areas may
> not have any (farmer friendly). That would mean avoiding the cities in
> general. The stuff is bad news on aluminum alloy - and that's why Rotax
> rebels I think - alu parts.
> Please let me know what the [inevitable] response is. I suspect it will
> skirt the issue since politicians and their ilk aren't supposed to lie any
> more.
> Ferg
> PS The argument is coming to many other lands too. Brazil uses up to 80%
> ethanol I was told. Their reply should be interesting.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KARL HEINDL"
> To:
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anguish..........
>
>
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> do
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> trend
> were
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> times)
> standard
> in
> Subject
> an
> trends
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| Subject: | Rotax Fuel Return Restrictor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Kingsly
Yes the little cylinder is counterbored to make it less likely to block
I believe.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
Robt.C.Harrison
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley
Hurst
Subject: Europa-List: Rotax Fuel Return Restrictor
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst"
<hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
All,
I don't know if the fuel return line restrictor is the same for all the
Rotax engines or not but I have just a plain vanilla Rotax 912 so . . .
.
could anybody enlighten me as to the shape/dimensions and hole size in
the
restrictor please.
I would have envisioned the restrictor to be just a small cylinder with
a
hole down the centre but the Mod 40 instructions say to put the
restrictor
in the end of the hose with its 'plain' end facing outwards. Plain end
?
makes me wonder what's on the other end ???
Thanks in anticipation.
Kingsley Hurst
Mono Classic 281 in Oz.
Lots of things still to be done.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Anguish.......... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
All,
I don't really understand all the implications, and why ethanol is okay for
car engines, most of which are also made of aluminum with metal fuel lines,
and not for certain aircaft engines. I can only go by what the man from
Rotax told me. I understand that other vehicles are also affected, maybe
snowmobiles and similar. According to the maintenance manual, the Rotax has
internal corrosion proofing, so what's the problem ?
I don't expect a reply from the premier's office but we will have to keep an
eye on what COPA/AOPA and EAA will be able to accomplish. The only hope is
that the premium gasoline is exempted, as this is used by relatively few
cars.
Karl
>From: "Alexander Kaarsberg" <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: "europa-list" <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anguish..........
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:43:00 -0300
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg"
><kaarsber@terra.com.br>
>
>All,
>
>Car gas/petrol all Brazil through contains between 20 and 25% alcohol, I
>believe it is ethanol.
>I have never gotten to speak directly to any Rotax owners about the issue,
>but I have had second hand reports and there are a number of positions.
>The official Rotax attitude here (and I presume it comes from Kodiak) is
>that automotive fuel is not recommended due to the corrosive effects from
>the high water content the alcohol CAN hold. A number of Rotax owners here
>say it is not so bad in practice and that the consequenses of lead build-up
>is in many cases worse when using avgas- and the difference in cost between
>the two compensates for a lot anyway.
>Detonation should not be an issue though, as far as I know alcohol has a
>high resistance to knocking...cars that run on pure alcohol here has about
>20% higher compression rate than gas driven ones.
>
>Some people talk of filling drums 3/4 with cargas, topping off with water,
>mixing it all very well for the alcohol and the water to merge and then
>drain the water out, leaving gasoline only.....
>
>Embraer have come up with a cropsprayer that flies on alcohol only with a
>Lycontissaurus engine...
>
>Regards,
>
>Alex, kit 529
>De:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>
>Para:europa-list@matronics.com
>
>C=F3pia:
>
>Data:Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:47:01 -0500
>
>Assunto:Re: Europa-List: Anguish..........
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle"
> >
> > Karl,
> > That's true regarding the Rotax NO-NO, and in our case, that may
> > be our saving. If the intent was to concentrate E10 in the TO. area
>(because
> > of pollution from cars), then to maintain the 5% average, outlying areas
>may
> > not have any (farmer friendly). That would mean avoiding the cities in
> > general. The stuff is bad news on aluminum alloy - and that's why Rotax
> > rebels I think - alu parts.
> > Please let me know what the [inevitable] response is. I suspect it will
> > skirt the issue since politicians and their ilk aren't supposed to lie
>any
> > more.
> > Ferg
> > PS The argument is coming to many other lands too. Brazil uses up to 80%
> > ethanol I was told. Their reply should be interesting.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "KARL HEINDL"
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anguish..........
> >
> >
> > | --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL"
> > |
> > |
> > | Ferg,
> > |
> > | I am obviously concerned about the same issue. I contacted Rotax
>direct
> > some
> > | time ago, and they say that an ethanol content above 5% is a NONO. It
> > causes
> > | detonation, internal corrosion and possible engine failure. Your
>concern
> > | about fuel lines in comparison is irrelevant.
> > | As recommended by COPA, I have also written to the Ontario premier
> > | explaining the situation, and also including a copy of an EAA article
> > | outlining the same problem in Montana. We are all hoping that the
>ruling
> > is
> > | modified whereby the premium 91 octane (North American) fuel is
>supplied
> > | without ethanol.
> > | If you think this is to do with global warming, think again. It is all
>to
> > do
> > | with supporting the poor impoverished farmers.
> > | If anyone from Brazil is on this forum, can you enlighten us on what
>you
> > use
> > | for Rotax fuel ?
> > | I remember your cities having a strong smell of alcohol 20 years ago
>from
> > | car exhaust fumes.
> > |
> > | Karl
> > |
> > |
> > | >From: "Fergus Kyle"
> > | >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > | >To: "EUROPALIST"
> > | >Subject: Europa-List: Anguish..........
> > | >Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:28:10 -0500
> > | >
> > | >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle"
> > | >
> > | >Cheers,
> > | > I attended the EAA/RAA chapter locally last Friday to hear
> > the
> > | >pricipal speaker, a qualified fuel expert who acts as Quality Control
>for
> > a
> > | >large petroleum firm in Canada. His topic was future fuels. Fuel and
>its
> > | >derivatives when operated in Canada is a provincial affair, since
>trade
> > and
> > | >commerce come under provincial jurisdiction unless exported.
> > | > Our speaker pointed out that theProvinciual Premier had
> > called
> > | >for and is acting on a proposal to increase the ethanol content of
>motor
> > | >car
> > | >fuels to an average of 5% over the next few years to a present-day
> > maximum
> > | >of 10% anywhere. This is somewhat nebulous in intent, since the plan
>is
> > to
> > | >reduce noxious exhausts, especially in the greater Toronto area
>(GTA).
> > The
> > | >fuel has become known as E10. Whether it means 5% everywhere or that
> > | >Toronto
> > | >(being the greatest offender) will have 10 while outlying districts
>will
> > | >carry much less - is still up in the air. There is feeling that this
> > trend
> > | >will increase in popularity across the land.
> > | > Naturally this is of interest to those such as myself who
> > were
> > | >planning on the use of MoGas as is advertised in Rotaz and Europa
> > | >materials.
> > | >Slightly less than half the attendees owned Rotax or similar, using
> > MoGas.
> > | > The bulk of his topic was the destructive qualities tested
> > in
> > | >labs to date. The conclusion is that E10 will wreak havoc on aluminum
> > fuel
> > | >lines and most rubber-type tubing, including many of the epoxy and
>like
> > | >materials. So there I am - fuel lines aluminum alloy where difficult
>to
> > get
> > | >at (in order to avoid the difficulties of changing same at periodic
> > times)
> > | >-
> > | >I had taken great care to avoid vibration threats - AND the Europa
> > standard
> > | >fuel tank of the 1997 vintage (already changed once after leaks
>detected
> > in
> > | >original tank, and fuel filler tube also changed).
> > | > In view of the popularity of the Premier's edict (TO. is
> > | >swiftly
> > | >becoming a choking zone at rush hour) without incurring the rural
>wrath,
> > | >there seems no point in objecting. This of course accounts for the
> > Subject
> > | >title and my preliminary dread. At the moment it looks like I have
>built
> > an
> > | >aircraft with a sword over its head (to say nothing of dwindling
> > | >resources).
> > | > So my purpose in writing is to clang the bell on coming
> > trends
> > | >for those as yet unaware, and to beg some good news that E10 will not
>eat
> > | >through my embedded fuel cell. I find the idea of changing fuel lines
>(we
> > | >were told that stainless is not free of threat) abhorrent enough
>without
> > | >worse news.
> > | > Tell me it ain't so!
> > | >Ferg Monowheel Classic 914 - sanding sanding sanding
> > | >
> > | >
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Speed Vs. Air density. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
Hi Paul and All,
Rule of thumb I recall is TAS increases at a rate of 2 percent per
thousand feet.
future fellow 914 grin... Kevin
Kingsley Hurst wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
>
>
>
>
>>I was wondering if some that was a little more versed in aerodynamics
>>
>>
>could quantify my observations. I am finding that with my 914 Turbo
>that for a constant power setting I pick up some where between 1.5 ~ 2.0
>knots per 1000'. Is this valid or just wishful thinking.
>
>Paul,
>I take it you are talking about TAS. I don't know the mathematics and
>others will surely correct me if I am wrong, but I think your figures
>would be right there in the ball park for a constant power setting at
>varying altitudes. After all, isn't this WHY you purchased the 914 in
>order to demonstrate this element of physics to us lesser mortals with
>normally aspirated engines ? I hate that <grin>
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Kingsley
>
>PS BTW, after a second go at removing the braid from the old fuel hose,
>it came off very easily so I don't know what I did wrongly the first
>time. Only trouble is the braid wont fit on the new hose. (just too
>tight) Ah well, back to the drawing boards !
>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <wingnut54@charter.net>
I just completed the same task. I did not use 2 18ga wires only one, assuming a
grammer use problem. What is the purpose of using 2 18ga wires anyway? If the
current is high enough for two then why not use a larger wire to begin with?
Reason, if one were to break then the remaining one is now a fusible link.(?)
Perhaps a call to tech support is in order. BTW I hooked mine to a Sigtronics
SPA 400 and they were very helpful and knowlegable of the A200.
Troy Maynor
Monowheel Classic UK120
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| Subject: | Speed Vs. Air density. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gregory" <m.j.gregory@talk21.com>
Paul,
If you are using a manifold absolute pressure (MAP) gauge and RPM to measure
power, and are keeping these constant while you measure speed at different
altitudes, you will actually be experiencing an increase in engine power
with altitude because the reduction in exhaust back pressure increases the
efficiency of the combustion cycle. This affects both normally-aspirated
and turbo-charged engines, but of course the turbo will increase the power
available because of the boost it can provide.
I am sure any thermodynamicist could quantify the effect, but I'm not
attempting this!
Mike
Europa Club Safety Officer
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I was wondering if some that was a little more versed in aerodynamics could
quantify my observations. I am finding that with my 914 Turbo that for a
constant power setting I pick up some where between 1.5 ~ 2.0 knots per
1000'. Is this valid or just wishful thinking.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Anguish.......... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Ethanol vaporises at much lower temperatures and pressures and consequently
more likely to vaporise in the fuel lines and cause airlocks..
In the UK, the CAA reccomends you do not use fuels containing ethanol above
6000 ft.
----- Original Message -----
From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anguish..........
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>
>
> All,
>
> I don't really understand all the implications, and why ethanol is okay
> for
> car engines, most of which are also made of aluminum with metal fuel
> lines,
> and not for certain aircaft engines. I can only go by what the man from
> Rotax told me. I understand that other vehicles are also affected, maybe
> snowmobiles and similar. According to the maintenance manual, the Rotax
> has
> internal corrosion proofing, so what's the problem ?
> I don't expect a reply from the premier's office but we will have to keep
> an
> eye on what COPA/AOPA and EAA will be able to accomplish. The only hope is
> that the premium gasoline is exempted, as this is used by relatively few
> cars.
>
> Karl
>
>
>>From: "Alexander Kaarsberg" <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
>>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>To: "europa-list" <europa-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anguish..........
>>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:43:00 -0300
>>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander Kaarsberg"
>><kaarsber@terra.com.br>
>>
>>All,
>>
>>Car gas/petrol all Brazil through contains between 20 and 25% alcohol, I
>>believe it is ethanol.
>>I have never gotten to speak directly to any Rotax owners about the issue,
>>but I have had second hand reports and there are a number of positions.
>>The official Rotax attitude here (and I presume it comes from Kodiak) is
>>that automotive fuel is not recommended due to the corrosive effects from
>>the high water content the alcohol CAN hold. A number of Rotax owners here
>>say it is not so bad in practice and that the consequenses of lead
>>build-up
>>is in many cases worse when using avgas- and the difference in cost
>>between
>>the two compensates for a lot anyway.
>>Detonation should not be an issue though, as far as I know alcohol has a
>>high resistance to knocking...cars that run on pure alcohol here has about
>>20% higher compression rate than gas driven ones.
>>
>>Some people talk of filling drums 3/4 with cargas, topping off with water,
>>mixing it all very well for the alcohol and the water to merge and then
>>drain the water out, leaving gasoline only.....
>>
>>Embraer have come up with a cropsprayer that flies on alcohol only with a
>>Lycontissaurus engine...
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Alex, kit 529
>>De:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>
>>Para:europa-list@matronics.com
>>
>>C=F3pia:
>>
>>Data:Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:47:01 -0500
>>
>>Assunto:Re: Europa-List: Anguish..........
>>
>>
>> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle"
>> >
>> > Karl,
>> > That's true regarding the Rotax NO-NO, and in our case, that may
>> > be our saving. If the intent was to concentrate E10 in the TO. area
>>(because
>> > of pollution from cars), then to maintain the 5% average, outlying
>> > areas
>>may
>> > not have any (farmer friendly). That would mean avoiding the cities in
>> > general. The stuff is bad news on aluminum alloy - and that's why Rotax
>> > rebels I think - alu parts.
>> > Please let me know what the [inevitable] response is. I suspect it will
>> > skirt the issue since politicians and their ilk aren't supposed to lie
>>any
>> > more.
>> > Ferg
>> > PS The argument is coming to many other lands too. Brazil uses up to
>> > 80%
>> > ethanol I was told. Their reply should be interesting.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "KARL HEINDL"
>> > To:
>> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anguish..........
>> >
>> >
>> > | --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL"
>> > |
>> > |
>> > | Ferg,
>> > |
>> > | I am obviously concerned about the same issue. I contacted Rotax
>>direct
>> > some
>> > | time ago, and they say that an ethanol content above 5% is a NONO. It
>> > causes
>> > | detonation, internal corrosion and possible engine failure. Your
>>concern
>> > | about fuel lines in comparison is irrelevant.
>> > | As recommended by COPA, I have also written to the Ontario premier
>> > | explaining the situation, and also including a copy of an EAA article
>> > | outlining the same problem in Montana. We are all hoping that the
>>ruling
>> > is
>> > | modified whereby the premium 91 octane (North American) fuel is
>>supplied
>> > | without ethanol.
>> > | If you think this is to do with global warming, think again. It is
>> > all
>>to
>> > do
>> > | with supporting the poor impoverished farmers.
>> > | If anyone from Brazil is on this forum, can you enlighten us on what
>>you
>> > use
>> > | for Rotax fuel ?
>> > | I remember your cities having a strong smell of alcohol 20 years ago
>>from
>> > | car exhaust fumes.
>> > |
>> > | Karl
>> > |
>> > |
>> > | >From: "Fergus Kyle"
>> > | >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> > | >To: "EUROPALIST"
>> > | >Subject: Europa-List: Anguish..........
>> > | >Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:28:10 -0500
>> > | >
>> > | >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle"
>> > | >
>> > | >Cheers,
>> > | > I attended the EAA/RAA chapter locally last Friday to hear
>> > the
>> > | >pricipal speaker, a qualified fuel expert who acts as Quality
>> > Control
>>for
>> > a
>> > | >large petroleum firm in Canada. His topic was future fuels. Fuel and
>>its
>> > | >derivatives when operated in Canada is a provincial affair, since
>>trade
>> > and
>> > | >commerce come under provincial jurisdiction unless exported.
>> > | > Our speaker pointed out that theProvinciual Premier had
>> > called
>> > | >for and is acting on a proposal to increase the ethanol content of
>>motor
>> > | >car
>> > | >fuels to an average of 5% over the next few years to a present-day
>> > maximum
>> > | >of 10% anywhere. This is somewhat nebulous in intent, since the plan
>>is
>> > to
>> > | >reduce noxious exhausts, especially in the greater Toronto area
>>(GTA).
>> > The
>> > | >fuel has become known as E10. Whether it means 5% everywhere or that
>> > | >Toronto
>> > | >(being the greatest offender) will have 10 while outlying districts
>>will
>> > | >carry much less - is still up in the air. There is feeling that this
>> > trend
>> > | >will increase in popularity across the land.
>> > | > Naturally this is of interest to those such as myself who
>> > were
>> > | >planning on the use of MoGas as is advertised in Rotaz and Europa
>> > | >materials.
>> > | >Slightly less than half the attendees owned Rotax or similar, using
>> > MoGas.
>> > | > The bulk of his topic was the destructive qualities tested
>> > in
>> > | >labs to date. The conclusion is that E10 will wreak havoc on
>> > aluminum
>> > fuel
>> > | >lines and most rubber-type tubing, including many of the epoxy and
>>like
>> > | >materials. So there I am - fuel lines aluminum alloy where difficult
>>to
>> > get
>> > | >at (in order to avoid the difficulties of changing same at periodic
>> > times)
>> > | >-
>> > | >I had taken great care to avoid vibration threats - AND the Europa
>> > standard
>> > | >fuel tank of the 1997 vintage (already changed once after leaks
>>detected
>> > in
>> > | >original tank, and fuel filler tube also changed).
>> > | > In view of the popularity of the Premier's edict (TO. is
>> > | >swiftly
>> > | >becoming a choking zone at rush hour) without incurring the rural
>>wrath,
>> > | >there seems no point in objecting. This of course accounts for the
>> > Subject
>> > | >title and my preliminary dread. At the moment it looks like I have
>>built
>> > an
>> > | >aircraft with a sword over its head (to say nothing of dwindling
>> > | >resources).
>> > | > So my purpose in writing is to clang the bell on coming
>> > trends
>> > | >for those as yet unaware, and to beg some good news that E10 will
>> > not
>>eat
>> > | >through my embedded fuel cell. I find the idea of changing fuel
>> > lines
>>(we
>> > | >were told that stainless is not free of threat) abhorrent enough
>>without
>> > | >worse news.
>> > | > Tell me it ain't so!
>> > | >Ferg Monowheel Classic 914 - sanding sanding sanding
>> > | >
>> > | >
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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| Subject: | DOTH Tue 15th Shobden |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi All,
My plane has just emerged from its mid-winter service and is looking
for a trip somewhere. How about a DOTH to Shobden tomorrow (Tue 15th)?
Voucher in Flyer.
Cheers,
Paddy Clarke
Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
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| Subject: | Re: Anguish.......... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Alcohol will improve resistance to detonation, not the other way around as
"Rotax" have suggested, and 16:1+ compression ratios are possible on pure
alcohol. Can also be quite difficult keeping an alcohol-fuelled engine hot
enough!
Duncan McF.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
"Years ago" I had my panel fitted out and wired at a U.S. avionics shop.
Unfortunately, they never provided a completed wiring diagram, and some of
the wires are open ended. I seem to be able to figure out most of the loose
ends, but here is one question:
There are three warning lamps at the center top of the panel: Red, Blue and
Green. I assume there is some standard applied to these colours/colors -
any suggestion as to what they are supposed to indicate?
Regards,
Svein
A225 - XS Trigear - now in Norway
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hello Ira
How is your plane working and flying? You have second alternator
functional?
Are you using supplied motor mounts with the supplied inserts or have you
either changed the insert length, or the rubber mounts to O-200 or both?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Icom A-200 Comm |
--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
MJKTuck@cs.com wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: MJKTuck@cs.com
>
>Hi Folks,
>
>Anyone else wired up an Icom A-200? The instructions ask for two pairs of 18
>swg for power and ground. By that I assume they mean one pair of 18 swg wires
>for power and one pair of 18 swg wires for ground.
>
>Power goes to two pins (14 & R) and ground to four pins (6,15,F & S). Do all
>these pins have to carry two 18 swg wires? I think I might have trouble
>getting two wires into the Molex pin and fit in the plastic Molex connector.
>
>Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>Regards,
>Martin Tuck
>N152MT
>
>
>
>
Martin,
I wired my A200 exactly as per instructions, through an ACS 400
intercom. Works like a charm... :)
--
Jeff - A055
Ready for FWF
Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
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