---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/17/05: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:05 AM - RE : Europa cover? (mau11) 2. 02:53 AM - Tour de France (David Joyce) 3. 04:36 AM - Re: Tour de France (William Mills) 4. 10:19 AM - Re: Europa cover? (Sven den Boer) 5. 02:05 PM - Re: Loan of Classic mono trailer Bath/Gloucester area?? The UK ... (Davidghillam@aol.com) 6. 04:55 PM - Europa web site (Vaughn Teegarden) 7. 07:31 PM - Oil in the intake (Steve Hagar) 8. 08:19 PM - Re: Europa web site (JEFF ROBERTS) 9. 08:20 PM - Re: Oil in the intake (Jim Thursby) 10. 09:01 PM - Re: Europa web site (Cliff Shaw) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:40 AM PST US From: "mau11" Subject: RE : Europa-List: Europa cover? --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" Hello Sven, Do you have good adress for Europa cover? Thanks --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Sven den Boer Envoy : mercredi 16 fvrier 2005 22:31 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: Europa cover? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" --> For Europe I can help some people obtaining a hood of very good quality, contact me off-line for details. Cheers Sven den Boer A168 PH-SBR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Europa-List: Europa cover? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" > --> > > All > > Does any one know who made the canvas cover for the Europa that John > Hurst was showing to us a couple years ago? I would like to have one > and will order direct if I can find the maker. It was some one in > Florida, if I remember correctly. > > Cliff Shaw > 1041 Euclid ave. > Edmonds, WA 98020 > 425 776 5555 > http://www.europaowners.org/WileE > > PS: I lost track of John and his phone number. Is he still interested > in Europa? > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:43 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Europa-List: Tour de France --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" I propose to run a trip round France again this year lasting a week or so in June and comparable to last year's Tour de France'. It is designed to appeal to wives and also to those who haven't previously ventured across the channel - that's to say in general stage lengths will not exceed 2 or 3 hours in order to give ample time for folk to do their own thing for a reasonable part of the day. There will also be as much (or as little) support as anyone might like in getting up to speed with flight plans, customs, foreign airspace, etc. Last year's trip include on channel virgin and one 'near virgin', both of whom turned into seasoned campaigners on the trip.The stop overs will be chosen to offer the prospect of good food and wine and local touristic interest. Last year we stayed at Reims, Chalon, Grenoble, (Carcassonne - planned but missed out because of weather), Chauvigny and Belle Isle, as well as visiting a few other places as lunch stops. The itinerary will be mostly new this year. I managed to book accommodation as we went along last year, and also offered the option of camping, altho no one took it up. I have not yet set a date but suspect it will need to be 4-12 June to avoid the Colditz trip.I am pretty flexible about it and would welcome suggestions from any potential participants, possibly bringing it forward a week As last year there may be scope for solo pilots to offer their spare seat to a paying copilot Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:06 AM PST US From: "William Mills" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tour de France --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" Hi David Bryan and Bob, I thought Bob's idea of combining the Baltic countries and Colditz with Barkarby and Stauning and also the Stade Europa fly-in in Germany on the way home would make a great trip. If that could be arranged perhaps we could have your trip later in the month. What do you think? Best wishes, William Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Joyce" Subject: Europa-List: Tour de France > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" > > I propose to run a trip round France again this year lasting a week or so in > June and comparable to last year's Tour de France'. It is designed to appeal > to wives and also to those who haven't previously ventured across the > channel - that's to say in general stage lengths will not exceed 2 or 3 > hours in order to give ample time for folk to do their own thing for a > reasonable part of the day. There will also be as much (or as little) > support as anyone might like in getting up to speed with flight plans, > customs, foreign airspace, etc. Last year's trip include on channel virgin > and one 'near virgin', both of whom turned into seasoned campaigners on the > trip.The stop overs will be chosen to offer the prospect of good food and > wine and local touristic interest. Last year we stayed at Reims, Chalon, > Grenoble, (Carcassonne - planned but missed out because of weather), > Chauvigny and Belle Isle, as well as visiting a few other places as lunch > stops. The itinerary will be mostly new this year. I managed to book > accommodation as we went along last year, and also offered the option of > camping, altho no one took it up. > I have not yet set a date but suspect it will need to be 4-12 June > to avoid the Colditz trip.I am pretty flexible about it and would welcome > suggestions from any potential participants, possibly bringing it forward a > week As last year there may be scope for solo pilots to offer their spare > seat to a paying copilot > Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:34 AM PST US From: "Sven den Boer" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa cover? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" Michel, I do. I have a guy who makes sprayhoods for seagoing sailships. The material he uses is white, strong, water and wind tight and very resistant to sunlight. He made a protype for my aircraft, I will make some pictures saturday and send them to you. Price is 550,- euro's excluding shipping. Sven ----- Original Message ----- From: "mau11" Subject: RE : Europa-List: Europa cover? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" > > Hello Sven, > Do you have good adress for Europa cover? > Thanks > > --|-- > --------(*)-------- > > Michel AUVRAY > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Sven den > Boer > Envoy : mercredi 16 fvrier 2005 22:31 > : europa-list@matronics.com > Objet : Re: Europa-List: Europa cover? > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" > --> > > For Europe I can help some people obtaining a hood of very good quality, > contact me off-line for details. > > Cheers > > Sven den Boer > > A168 > PH-SBR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff Shaw" > To: > Subject: Europa-List: Europa cover? > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" > > --> > > > > All > > > > Does any one know who made the canvas cover for the Europa that John > > Hurst was showing to us a couple years ago? I would like to have one > > and will order direct if I can find the maker. It was some one in > > Florida, if I remember correctly. > > > > Cliff Shaw > > 1041 Euclid ave. > > Edmonds, WA 98020 > > 425 776 5555 > > http://www.europaowners.org/WileE > > > > PS: I lost track of John and his phone number. Is he still interested > > in Europa? > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:09 PM PST US From: Davidghillam@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Loan of Classic mono trailer Bath/Gloucester area?? The UK ... --> Europa-List message posted by: Davidghillam@aol.com Hi Pete, You can borrow mine if you wish. I'm only 5 miles SW of Tetbury and 12 from Kemble. The only provisos are that it is at present stored at the back of my garage (unused for 2 years) but it shouldn't be too much trouble to get it out. Also, I hope to sell it with the plane in the next week or two. The advert should appear in the next issue of Popular Flying, due out any day now. I will be expecting potential purchasers to be forming an orderly queue to view both plane and trailer very soon! Feel free to e-mail or telephone, if you are still looking. David G-SHSH Tel: 01666 890 390 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" Evening All Has any one got a mono trailer I could borrow for a half day. I need to move my aeroplane from Wing Farm, Warminster back to Kemble. My own trailer is on loan and not available for a couple of weeks. Regards Pete ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:36 PM PST US From: "Vaughn Teegarden" Subject: Europa-List: Europa web site clamav-milter version 0.80j on heru-ur --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" I was pleasantly surprised tonight when I clicked on the Europa web site and found it to be 95% up and running. Their URL is http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/ . It's nice to have them back! Vaughn Working at it ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:20 PM PST US From: "Steve Hagar" Subject: Europa-List: Oil in the intake 2.00 DATE_IN_FUTURE_24_48 Date: is 24 to 48 hours after Received: date 0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" My 914 has been installed for some time now (over a year) on the aircraft in the garage. It has not been started yet however. Last weekend I removed the sparkplugs and rotated the prop through to bring up the oil pressure and get oil pumping through the engine. Received good pressure and continued for about 2 minutes by hand. Went out to the garage today and found a puddle of oil under the aircraft. Removed the lower cowl and found the air filter saturated and dripping with oil. Removed filter and observed turbo intake impeller area with mucho oil. My initial assumption on this is that by turning the engine by hand I am pressurizing the turbo sump. But since there are no exhaust gasses driving the wheel there is no scavenging occurring and the oil is just filling up the turbo housing. I am assuming that at the temperature the turbo runs at is that it does not have conventional oil seals that could have been damaged. Do I need to investigate the matter further or are my assumptions correct? Input from the turboheads much appreciated. Thanks Steve Hagar A143 N40SH Mesa, AZ Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:38 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa web site --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS Very Very good news indeed! Congratulations Europa! Jeff A258 Do no archive On Feb 17, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Vaughn Teegarden wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" > > > I was pleasantly surprised tonight when I clicked on the Europa web > site and found it to be 95% up and running. Their URL is > http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/ . It's nice to have them back! > > Vaughn > Working at it > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:15 PM PST US From: "Jim Thursby" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil in the intake --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Thursby" Hi Steve, A new demonstrator did this before. It used to be a common problem on first starts on a 914. Ther is a small check valve in the oil feed line to the turbo. There is a small steel ball and spring in it. The ball sticks sometimes whene they are new. Take it apart making sure there isn't any debris in the valve and cycle it thru a few times by hand. What I mean is push the ball down and let the spring return it a few times. Very small parts so be careful. Whene you first run the plane make sure you start it a few times the first day, that cycles the valve a few more times. Jim Thursby -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar Subject: Europa-List: Oil in the intake --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" My 914 has been installed for some time now (over a year) on the aircraft in the garage. It has not been started yet however. Last weekend I removed the sparkplugs and rotated the prop through to bring up the oil pressure and get oil pumping through the engine. Received good pressure and continued for about 2 minutes by hand. Went out to the garage today and found a puddle of oil under the aircraft. Removed the lower cowl and found the air filter saturated and dripping with oil. Removed filter and observed turbo intake impeller area with mucho oil. My initial assumption on this is that by turning the engine by hand I am pressurizing the turbo sump. But since there are no exhaust gasses driving the wheel there is no scavenging occurring and the oil is just filling up the turbo housing. I am assuming that at the temperature the turbo runs at is that it does not have conventional oil seals that could have been damaged. Do I need to investigate the matter further or are my assumptions correct? Input from the turboheads much appreciated. Thanks Steve Hagar A143 N40SH Mesa, AZ Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:58 PM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa web site --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" All I looked at he link and found an all-new web page. Under NEWS I found this entry: January 2005 The first major parts shipment from the new company, a 40ft shipping container, left the factory just before Christmas 2004 slightly later than we had originally planned but arrived safely at a distribution centre in the United States in mid January 2005. The demand for components from the States has been very strong and in order to meet builder's needs, we are planning to send a further container load of parts to the US in mid March 2005. It would be appreciated if orders for delivery in the USA are received in good time to help us ensure that they are included in the forthcoming shipment (Just passing this little bit of information along. Some people may not look into the web page that far. ) Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vaughn Teegarden" Subject: Europa-List: Europa web site > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" > > > I was pleasantly surprised tonight when I clicked on the Europa web site > and found it to be 95% up and running. Their URL is > http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/ . It's nice to have them back! > > Vaughn > Working at it > > >