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1. 03:14 AM - FW: Propeller. (R.C.Harrison)
2. 06:03 AM - Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
3. 12:03 PM - Re: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven (R.C.Harrison)
4. 02:47 PM - Re: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven (SteveD)
5. 05:01 PM - Re: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven (Fred R. Klein)
6. 05:56 PM - Re: Oil in the intake (Steve Hagar)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! I'm "patching " this off to both Europa and Jabiru forum people inn
the hope that someone can get Thomas Eaton to contact Jesper Bornaes in
Denmark as per the message below:-
Regards and thanks.
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: jesper borns [mailto:bx2cherry@yahoo.dk]
Subject: Propeller.
Hi Bob !
I have found on the net that there is an english pilot
named Thomas Eaton flying a Europa (G-FLOX) with the
same prop as ours on a 2200. Do you know how I can get
in contact with him to get some info about his
experience ?
I've tried tracking him down on the net without
succes. Hope you can help.
Regards
Jesper
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Subject: | Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Gents.
I recently purchased a powder coating gun and have been experimenting with
good results. In addition I have an old used electrical kitchen oven with 4
burner top that I have been using for the cure process.
Unfortunately many of the items I would like to coat will not fit into the
standard size oven.
I seek ideas to make a lager oven. Perhaps using the stove top heating
elements?
Your ideas, experiences, and photos would be greatly appreciated!
Tailwinds
Brian Skelly
Texas
Europa # A276 TriGear
See My build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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Subject: | Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! To cure the whole aircraft to make it for a special one off job
would be expensive BUT I used my closed trailer which is lined with
spray on Agricultural Store Building Foam Insulator. However you need
to be very careful of temperature control, rate of heat sink and rate of
cooling since differential speedy cooling could wreck your dream!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa Kit 337MKI/Jabiru 3300
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Subject: Europa-List: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Gents.
I recently purchased a powder coating gun and have been experimenting
with
good results. In addition I have an old used electrical kitchen oven
with 4
burner top that I have been using for the cure process.
Unfortunately many of the items I would like to coat will not fit into
the
standard size oven.
I seek ideas to make a lager oven. Perhaps using the stove top heating
elements?
Your ideas, experiences, and photos would be greatly appreciated!
Tailwinds
Brian Skelly
Texas
Europa # A276 TriGear
See My build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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Subject: | RE: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Hi Brian,
I've done some powder coating,
http://www.europaowners.org/PowderCoat
And I did make a stove top unit. As you can see in the pictures. The pipe had internal
baffles to prevent hot spots. I also had three oven probes in the top
to insure even heating. After I was all done someone emailed me about changing
the metal structure, and suggested it now had the characteristics of a licorice
twizzler. The Temp I used was 350F for 17 minutes. Worried, I went over to
the engineering dept. at work and asked the metallurgist to run the numbers for
me during his lunch. The bad news was that 350 was the magic number to change
the internal structure, the good news was the 17 minutes was no where near the
required soak time. Steal parts I'd say go for it, large aluminum tubes, why
risk it, where your temp control is not precise. Small aluminum parts, short
cure times at low in the band temp. They should be fine. With proper prep the
coatings you will be putting on are a hundred times better then the powder coating
in the kit. Where as I can remove the powder co
at from my engine mount with the slightest tap. The coating I put on the tail
spring fell from and overhead shelf onto a concrete floor and doesn't have a mark
on it's two tone Sky blue to white fade.
Some tips:
Clean the part to white metal finish. I've sanded and fine sand blasted parts.
Wipe the parts with acetone then don't touch them with bare hands.
Preheat the parts in the oven then coat them hot and return to the oven.
I do love the way the parts look when completed.
Your best powders and coatings are available here:
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=92&itemType=CONTENT
Chat later,
Steved
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Subject: | Re: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
on 2/18/05 6:01 AM, EuropaXSA276@aol.com at EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
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> I seek ideas to make a lager oven. Perhaps using the stove top heating
> elements?
>
Brian,
...a lager oven...? What are you brewing?
Fred
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Oil in the intake |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Jim:
Thanks for the info on the check valve!
Steve
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Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
> [Original Message]
> From: Jim Thursby <jthursby@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/17/2005 9:18:41 PM
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil in the intake
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Thursby"
<jthursby@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Hi Steve, A new demonstrator did this before. It used to be a common
> problem on first starts on a 914. Ther is a small check valve in the oil
> feed line to the turbo. There is a small steel ball and spring in it.
The
> ball sticks sometimes whene they are new. Take it apart making sure there
> isn't any debris in the valve and cycle it thru a few times by hand.
What I
> mean is push the ball down and let the spring return it a few times. Very
> small parts so be careful. Whene you first run the plane make sure you
> start it a few times the first day, that cycles the valve a few more
times.
>
> Jim Thursby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
> To: europa-list
> Subject: Europa-List: Oil in the intake
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
>
> My 914 has been installed for some time now (over a year) on the aircraft
in
> the garage. It has not been started yet however. Last weekend I removed
> the sparkplugs and rotated the prop through to bring up the oil pressure
> and get oil pumping through the engine. Received good pressure and
> continued for about 2 minutes by hand.
>
> Went out to the garage today and found a puddle of oil under the
aircraft.
> Removed the lower cowl and found the air filter saturated and dripping
with
> oil. Removed filter and observed turbo intake impeller area with mucho
oil.
> My initial assumption on this is that by turning the engine by hand I am
> pressurizing the turbo sump. But since there are no exhaust gasses
driving
> the wheel there is no scavenging occurring and the oil is just filling
> up the turbo housing. I am assuming that at the temperature the turbo
runs
> at is that it does not have conventional oil seals that could have been
> damaged. Do I need to investigate the matter further or are my
> assumptions correct? Input from the turboheads much appreciated. Thanks
>
> Steve Hagar
> A143 N40SH
> Mesa, AZ
>
> Steve Hagar
> hagargs@earthlink.net
>
>
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