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Sat 02/19/05


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 12:41 AM - Europa Club newsletter distribution (Rowland Carson)
     2. 06:02 AM - tail spring (josok)
     3. 07:18 AM - Re: Europa Club newsletter distribution (beecho@beecho.org)
     4. 09:13 AM - Re: tail spring (SteveD)
     5. 09:20 AM - Re: tail spring (SteveD)
     6. 03:19 PM - Re: tail spring (Tony Renshaw)
     7. 04:45 PM - Re: Europa Club newsletter distribution (Jeremy Davey)
     8. 05:10 PM - Re: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven (Dean Seitz)
     9. 07:09 PM - Re: tail spring (Fergus Kyle)
    10. 09:31 PM - Re: tail spring (Tony Renshaw)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:41:02 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Europa Club newsletter distribution
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> As announced some time ago on this list, the Europa Club newsletter for December 2004 with the Factory News insert, was sent to all the Europa builders and owners for whom addresses were held. Alas, it appears that despite the best joint efforts of the Club and Europa 2004 some addresses are out of date. I have had newsletters that were addressed to the following people returned to me as undeliverable: Jens Aabo, Denmark, 158, OY-EUR Uwe Albertin, Texas, USA, A050 Edwin Allseitz, Texas, USA, A110 Phil Bensted, Queensland, Australia, 366, VH-XSS Daniel Boyd, Georgia, USA, A045, N216JE Dave Butler, Massachusetts, USA, A167 Marvin Farley, Iowa, USA, A051, N100MF Daniel Foxx, Michigan, USA, A032 Paul Franzini, Hertfordshire, 470 Thomas Friedland, Washington, USA, A079, N96V Mitchell Garner, Pennsylvania, USA, A181 Richard Hamilton, Hertfordshire, 350 Lynn Hirschfeld, Florida, USA, A132 Nigel Hutchinson-Brooks, Victoria, Australia, 423 Michel Jambon, France, 289 Jeffrey Jukes, West Yorkshire, 293 Richard Kingsley, South Carolina, USA, A233 Hans-Heinrich Langlotz, Germany, 227, OE-CHL Brian Long, Georgia, USA, A124 Larry Morgan, Oregon, USA, A165 Wayne Oehler, California, USA, A122 Brian Petree, Tennessee, USA, A219 Ira Rampil, New York, USA, A224, N224XS Brian Rauchfuss, California, USA, A072 Gerald Rehn, Washington, USA, A161, N645XS Andrew Sarangan, Ohio, USA, A178 Rick Sivier, Hertfordshire, 462 Tom Troester, Indiana, USA, A174 Andrew Walker, North Yorkshire, 390 Colin Way, Dorset, 348 Paul Westman, New South Wales, Australia, 451 Alan Wright, West Midlands, 325 If your name appears above, please contact me with your current postal address so that I can send your copy to you. Likewise, if you are a new owner of any of the kit numbers listed. Or if you know that any of the people above are not online, please let me know how I can contact them. Or if you are a Europa builder or owner and didn't receive your copy of The Europa Flyer issue #43, please get in touch. Now here's the hard part - don't just reply to this message! The rest of the world does not need to know your mailing address, so just send it to me. Copy the following line: <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> then create a new outgoing message, and paste my address that you just copied into the "to" box. Then go ahead and write the rest of the message as usual. I will send your Europa Flyer, and also make sure that the factory gets your new address for any future communication (airworthiness alerts, etc). regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (740 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>


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    Time: 06:02:09 AM PST US
    Subject: tail spring
    From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
    2.60 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> Sometimes it does not quite hit the mark: The Manual says"Mark a horizontal line onto the rear face of the sternpost 25 mm up from the outside skin" Now what is "outside skin" here, is it the outside skin of the fuselage or the underside of the rear sternpost? If i assume the fuselage skin as datum, then the hole looks to be positioned very close to the bottom edge, so i am really confused here. Anybody? Regards, ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 07:18:41 AM PST US
    From: beecho@beecho.org
    Subject: Re: Europa Club newsletter distribution
    --> Europa-List message posted by: beecho@beecho.org Hi Rowland My address is: Thomas Friedland 7950 Bella Vista Road Atascadero, CA, USA 93422 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club newsletter distribution > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> > > As announced some time ago on this list, the Europa Club newsletter > for December 2004 with the Factory News insert, was sent to all the > Europa builders and owners for whom addresses were held. Alas, it > appears that despite the best joint efforts of the Club and Europa > 2004 some addresses are out of date. I have had newsletters that were > addressed to the following people returned to me as undeliverable: > > Jens Aabo, Denmark, 158, OY-EUR > Uwe Albertin, Texas, USA, A050 > Edwin Allseitz, Texas, USA, A110 > Phil Bensted, Queensland, Australia, 366, VH-XSS > Daniel Boyd, Georgia, USA, A045, N216JE > Dave Butler, Massachusetts, USA, A167 > Marvin Farley, Iowa, USA, A051, N100MF > Daniel Foxx, Michigan, USA, A032 > Paul Franzini, Hertfordshire, 470 > Thomas Friedland, Washington, USA, A079, N96V > Mitchell Garner, Pennsylvania, USA, A181 > Richard Hamilton, Hertfordshire, 350 > Lynn Hirschfeld, Florida, USA, A132 > Nigel Hutchinson-Brooks, Victoria, Australia, 423 > Michel Jambon, France, 289 > Jeffrey Jukes, West Yorkshire, 293 > Richard Kingsley, South Carolina, USA, A233 > Hans-Heinrich Langlotz, Germany, 227, OE-CHL > Brian Long, Georgia, USA, A124 > Larry Morgan, Oregon, USA, A165 > Wayne Oehler, California, USA, A122 > Brian Petree, Tennessee, USA, A219 > Ira Rampil, New York, USA, A224, N224XS > Brian Rauchfuss, California, USA, A072 > Gerald Rehn, Washington, USA, A161, N645XS > Andrew Sarangan, Ohio, USA, A178 > Rick Sivier, Hertfordshire, 462 > Tom Troester, Indiana, USA, A174 > Andrew Walker, North Yorkshire, 390 > Colin Way, Dorset, 348 > Paul Westman, New South Wales, Australia, 451 > Alan Wright, West Midlands, 325 > > If your name appears above, please contact me with your current > postal address so that I can send your copy to you. Likewise, if you > are a new owner of any of the kit numbers listed. Or if you know that > any of the people above are not online, please let me know how I can > contact them. Or if you are a Europa builder or owner and didn't > receive your copy of The Europa Flyer issue #43, please get in touch. > > Now here's the hard part - don't just reply to this message! The rest > of the world does not need to know your mailing address, so just send > it to me. Copy the following line: > > <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> > > then create a new outgoing message, and paste my address that you > just copied into the "to" box. Then go ahead and write the rest of > the message as usual. > > I will send your Europa Flyer, and also make sure that the factory > gets your new address for any future communication (airworthiness > alerts, etc). > > regards > > Rowland > -- > >


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    Time: 09:13:30 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: tail spring
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Jos, The strings in the photo are center fuselage. The laser is set up 235 mm - end of tail wheel spring to whole in the threaded part. With the fuselage level and the laser level, set the drop distance from the fuselage and put the beam though the hole. Chat Later, Steved ---------------- This Email contains Photos or Attachments located at the following link: http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=5034#5034 ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 09:20:29 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: tail spring
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> oops, answered the wrong question! I measured a few times then put the whole where it would not change the 235 mm setting addressed in my incorrect post. Steved. ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 03:19:38 PM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: tail spring
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Josok?? Have a look at Steve Dunsmuir's website and go to my link. Here it is but in case it doesn't work you now know where to look. I have quite a few photos of that setup. The dims don't accurately reflect the setup, in my opinion. http://www.europaowners.org/TonyR Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia At 01:00 AM 2/20/2005, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> > >Sometimes it does not quite hit the mark: The Manual says"Mark a >horizontal line onto the rear face of the sternpost 25 mm up from the >outside skin" Now what is "outside skin" here, is it the outside skin of >the fuselage or the underside of the rear sternpost? If i assume the >fuselage skin as datum, then the hole looks to be positioned very close to >the bottom edge, so i am really confused here. Anybody? > >Regards, >---------------- >Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > >


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    Time: 04:45:35 PM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: Europa Club newsletter distribution
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Guys and Gals - please read the instructions! :-) > Now here's the hard part - don't just reply to this message! The rest > of the world does not need to know your mailing address, so just send > it to me. Copy the following line: > > <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> > > then create a new outgoing message, and paste my address that you just > copied into the "to" box. Then go ahead and write the rest of the > message as usual. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of beecho@beecho.org Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Club newsletter distribution --> Europa-List message posted by: beecho@beecho.org Hi Rowland My address is: Thomas Friedland 7950 Bella Vista Road Atascadero, CA, USA 93422 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club newsletter distribution > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> > > As announced some time ago on this list, the Europa Club newsletter > for December 2004 with the Factory News insert, was sent to all the > Europa builders and owners for whom addresses were held. Alas, it > appears that despite the best joint efforts of the Club and Europa > 2004 some addresses are out of date. I have had newsletters that were > addressed to the following people returned to me as undeliverable: > > Jens Aabo, Denmark, 158, OY-EUR > Uwe Albertin, Texas, USA, A050 > Edwin Allseitz, Texas, USA, A110 > Phil Bensted, Queensland, Australia, 366, VH-XSS > Daniel Boyd, Georgia, USA, A045, N216JE > Dave Butler, Massachusetts, USA, A167 > Marvin Farley, Iowa, USA, A051, N100MF > Daniel Foxx, Michigan, USA, A032 > Paul Franzini, Hertfordshire, 470 > Thomas Friedland, Washington, USA, A079, N96V > Mitchell Garner, Pennsylvania, USA, A181 > Richard Hamilton, Hertfordshire, 350 > Lynn Hirschfeld, Florida, USA, A132 > Nigel Hutchinson-Brooks, Victoria, Australia, 423 > Michel Jambon, France, 289 > Jeffrey Jukes, West Yorkshire, 293 > Richard Kingsley, South Carolina, USA, A233 > Hans-Heinrich Langlotz, Germany, 227, OE-CHL > Brian Long, Georgia, USA, A124 > Larry Morgan, Oregon, USA, A165 > Wayne Oehler, California, USA, A122 > Brian Petree, Tennessee, USA, A219 > Ira Rampil, New York, USA, A224, N224XS > Brian Rauchfuss, California, USA, A072 > Gerald Rehn, Washington, USA, A161, N645XS > Andrew Sarangan, Ohio, USA, A178 > Rick Sivier, Hertfordshire, 462 > Tom Troester, Indiana, USA, A174 > Andrew Walker, North Yorkshire, 390 > Colin Way, Dorset, 348 > Paul Westman, New South Wales, Australia, 451 > Alan Wright, West Midlands, 325 > > If your name appears above, please contact me with your current > postal address so that I can send your copy to you. Likewise, if you > are a new owner of any of the kit numbers listed. Or if you know that > any of the people above are not online, please let me know how I can > contact them. Or if you are a Europa builder or owner and didn't > receive your copy of The Europa Flyer issue #43, please get in touch. > > Now here's the hard part - don't just reply to this message! The rest > of the world does not need to know your mailing address, so just send > it to me. Copy the following line: > > <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> > > then create a new outgoing message, and paste my address that you > just copied into the "to" box. Then go ahead and write the rest of > the message as usual. > > I will send your Europa Flyer, and also make sure that the factory > gets your new address for any future communication (airworthiness > alerts, etc). > > regards > > Rowland > -- > >


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    Time: 05:10:43 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> Brian Look at my site http://www.ambientdesigns.com/EuropaXS/ for March 2004 Powder coat Oven. I mad it out of Galv flashing and aluminum angle pop riveted together. Insulated with the board they use to make heating ducts out of. And a $20 hot plate. Cranks up to 400 deg at medium setting on the burners. Dean A284 N284A -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EuropaXSA276@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Ideas for a Powder Coating Oven --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Gents. I recently purchased a powder coating gun and have been experimenting with good results. In addition I have an old used electrical kitchen oven with 4 burner top that I have been using for the cure process. Unfortunately many of the items I would like to coat will not fit into the standard size oven. I seek ideas to make a lager oven. Perhaps using the stove top heating elements? Your ideas, experiences, and photos would be greatly appreciated! Tailwinds Brian Skelly Texas Europa # A276 TriGear See My build photos at: http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS


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    Time: 07:09:11 PM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: tail spring
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> Subject: Europa-List: tail spring | --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> | | Sometimes it does not quite hit the mark: The Manual says"Mark a horizontal line onto the rear face of the sternpost 25 mm up from the outside skin" Now what is "outside skin" here, is it the outside skin of the fuselage or the underside of the rear sternpost? If i assume the fuselage skin as datum, then the hole looks to be positioned very close to the bottom edge, so i am really confused here. Anybody? | | Regards, | ---------------- Josok, I must be very simple. I followed the word to the letter! I drilled a 1mm hole up from the outside bottom of the fuselage, and stuck a piece of wire up through it which was 25mm long, then carefully marked the horizontal line on the back of the sternpost. It worked a charm, although I had to file a small segment of a circle out of the bottom corner of the fuselage to accomodate the tailspring when bolted in. The aircraft sits at the requisite angle though............... Cheers, Ferg A064 sanding sanding sanding


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    Time: 09:31:09 PM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: tail spring
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Josok? About this tailspring.............if all is absolutely ideal dimensionally, yes, take the measurement and make your hole. Otherwise, setup you tailwheel on the spring, on a board set at the correct height beneath the tail, and then transpose the angle of the horizontal, tail contained, portion of the spring laterally "through" the fuse side and onto the sternpost centreline. Then drill away. I reckon the inaccuracies of homebuilding suggest you tailor the dim as required to achieve the actual goal, which is not a hole 1" up, but a tailwheel that has the tailplane at the correct angle when the fuse is static on the ground. Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia P.S. Have a look at those photos. At 10:17 AM 2/20/2005, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> > >Josok?? >Have a look at Steve Dunsmuir's website and go to my link. Here it is but >in case it doesn't work you now know where to look. I have quite a few >photos of that setup. The dims don't accurately reflect the setup, in my >opinion. >http://www.europaowners.org/TonyR >Reg >Tony Renshaw >Sydney Australia >At 01:00 AM 2/20/2005, you wrote: > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> > > > >Sometimes it does not quite hit the mark: The Manual says"Mark a > >horizontal line onto the rear face of the sternpost 25 mm up from the > >outside skin" Now what is "outside skin" here, is it the outside skin of > >the fuselage or the underside of the rear sternpost? If i assume the > >fuselage skin as datum, then the hole looks to be positioned very close to > >the bottom edge, so i am really confused here. Anybody? > > > >Regards, > >---------------- > >Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > > > > > >




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