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1. 01:08 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (Jos Okhuijsen)
2. 01:15 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (DvdPar@aol.com)
3. 03:32 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (EuropaForum)
4. 10:39 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
5. 02:06 PM - Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (SteveD)
6. 02:21 PM - Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (Duncan McFadyean)
7. 03:12 PM - Re: TailWheel Mod (Jim Butcher)
8. 03:14 PM - Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (Kingsley Hurst)
9. 04:20 PM - Grand Rapids EFIS (Vaughn Teegarden)
10. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: TailWheel Mod (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Re: TailWheel Mod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Mike,
You are not the first one to find that the 21 idicated is too long, there
have been messages before.
So i would not start over again, but shorten to whatever you need.
Please measure the rod and publish it here, because i will have the same
job in a few weeks time.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | Re: TailWheel Mod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
My rod is cut to 35cm (without the fitting attached)
Dave Park
Bld371 XS
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| Subject: | Re: TailWheel Mod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaForum <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Rev 2 of Grahams instructions are at:
www.EuropaOwners.org under Downloads. Some parts have new designs but
the geometry should be the same.
http://www.europaowners.org/dlman.php?func=select_folder&folder_id=16
Steved.
Waiting for the tail plane mod to bond the top on.
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| Subject: | Re: TailWheel Mod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Jos and all others that replied,
Thanks for the input. That puts my mind at ease. I'll cut to proper fit and
post what my measurements turn out to be.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Just about to put the top on but still finding little things to do before
that.
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| Subject: | Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
>> I'm relaying this from the EuropaOwners Site, either Mike is not signed on Matronics
or his post just beat his activation. Anyway if you reply he can see
it on the forum. Steved. <<
From: COMPOSITEPRO
Hi all I'm interested in building a kit plane
like many i have had to wait until later life/experience has shown that i might
be able to build a kit aircraft and actually fly i did want to work or fly aircraft
as a youth however my first starting point is cost implications and which
kit plan to start with if you could assume these facts as my sign in suggests
I'm not new to composites i have a background in f1 and military aerospace
parts manufacture
I'm not new to the Europa either ashamedly i might suggest the thing that has re
inspired me into my childhood dream has been the programme 'a plane is born'
and finally
I did my work experience at the Europa factory when Ivan Shaw first started the
project on the prototype and was the kind of lurking in the background watching
what was going on whilst the team Dave terry Ivan and Andy put the thing together
right from the molds to test flights
as implied above i also asked about plans as i recall Ivan had a rutan designed
plane which I'm assuming is also a similar jump into building
could i also ask about the non technical aspects (construction) of how where to
start flying regulations etc i have looked at the pfa already but
can it really be that simple
my apologies if this is directed more at the UK guys but i am located in the UK
thanks
Mike
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Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
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| Subject: | Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Nice to see Dave and Terry getting some credit at last for the prototype
Europa!
Duncan McF.
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From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
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> >> I'm relaying this from the EuropaOwners Site, either Mike is not signed
on Matronics or his post just beat his activation. Anyway if you reply he
can see it on the forum. Steved. <<
>
> From: COMPOSITEPRO
>
> Hi all I'm interested in building a kit plane
> like many i have had to wait until later life/experience has shown that i
might be able to build a kit aircraft and actually fly i did want to work or
fly aircraft as a youth however my first starting point is cost implications
and which kit plan to start with if you could assume these facts as my sign
in suggests I'm not new to composites i have a background in f1 and
military aerospace parts manufacture
>
> I'm not new to the Europa either ashamedly i might suggest the thing that
has re inspired me into my childhood dream has been the programme 'a plane
is born' and finally
>
> I did my work experience at the Europa factory when Ivan Shaw first
started the project on the prototype and was the kind of lurking in the
background watching what was going on whilst the team Dave terry Ivan and
Andy put the thing together right from the molds to test flights
>
> as implied above i also asked about plans as i recall Ivan had a rutan
designed plane which I'm assuming is also a similar jump into building
>
> could i also ask about the non technical aspects (construction) of how
where to start flying regulations etc i have looked at the pfa already but
> can it really be that simple
>
> my apologies if this is directed more at the UK guys but i am located in
the UK
>
> thanks
>
> Mike
> ----------------
> Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TailWheel Mod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Mike,
Ours is about 18" from center of rod end to center of rod end. It all
depends on where the CS29 bracket ended up. BTW, there's been alot of
comments on this forum about the tailwheel in general. Tony K has a mod for
the steering cable attach points, says it makes it easier to control on
pavement and Terry Seaver comments to limit the amount of angle the tail
wheel can go through to give easier control on pavement. We're still
debating whether to do either or both.
Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW
Just hung engine for final time!
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| Subject: | Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> Nice to see Dave and Terry getting some credit at last for the
prototype
Europa!
Duncan,
Who was Dave and Terry ? New names to me !
Cheers
Kingsley
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Grand Rapids EFIS |
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on apophis.email.starband.net
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
Has anyone in the Europa fold installed and flown a Grand Rapids EFIS Horizon 1
in their panel? If so, would they be willing to answer a question?
Vaughn Teegarden
Trying to get it all done
before closing the wings
putting on the top.
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| Subject: | Re: TailWheel Mod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I took a look at the modification for altering the ratio between the rudder
deflection and the tailwheel movement for the Singleton tail wheel kit. I
discussed this with Graham and on his advice I left is as is with the view
to altering it latter if required.
After a few flights I was getting on with it just fine with it so I left it.
I know that others did not like it and changed it, but I would recommend
that you start off on grass, migrate to pavement and if you still find it
too much of a handful then back off the geometry.
Just my 2 cents worth - Paul
----- Original Message -----
> Tony K has a mod for
> the steering cable attach points, says it makes it easier to control on
> pavement and Terry Seaver comments to limit the amount of angle the tail
> wheel can go through to give easier control on pavement. We're still
> debating whether to do either or both.
>
> Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW
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