---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/21/05: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:08 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (Jos Okhuijsen) 2. 01:15 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (DvdPar@aol.com) 3. 03:32 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (EuropaForum) 4. 10:39 AM - Re: TailWheel Mod (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 5. 02:06 PM - Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (SteveD) 6. 02:21 PM - Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (Duncan McFadyean) 7. 03:12 PM - Re: TailWheel Mod (Jim Butcher) 8. 03:14 PM - Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (Kingsley Hurst) 9. 04:20 PM - Grand Rapids EFIS (Vaughn Teegarden) 10. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: TailWheel Mod (Paul McAllister) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: TailWheel Mod From: "Jos Okhuijsen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" Hi Mike, You are not the first one to find that the 21 idicated is too long, there have been messages before. So i would not start over again, but shorten to whatever you need. Please measure the rod and publish it here, because i will have the same job in a few weeks time. Regards, Jos Okhuijsen ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:38 AM PST US From: DvdPar@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: TailWheel Mod --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com My rod is cut to 35cm (without the fitting attached) Dave Park Bld371 XS ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:56 AM PST US From: EuropaForum Subject: Re: Europa-List: TailWheel Mod --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaForum Rev 2 of Grahams instructions are at: www.EuropaOwners.org under Downloads. Some parts have new designs but the geometry should be the same. http://www.europaowners.org/dlman.php?func=select_folder&folder_id=16 Steved. Waiting for the tail plane mod to bond the top on. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:51 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: TailWheel Mod --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Jos and all others that replied, Thanks for the input. That puts my mind at ease. I'll cut to proper fit and post what my measurements turn out to be. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Just about to put the top on but still finding little things to do before that. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:45 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers From: "SteveD" --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" >> I'm relaying this from the EuropaOwners Site, either Mike is not signed on Matronics or his post just beat his activation. Anyway if you reply he can see it on the forum. Steved. << From: COMPOSITEPRO Hi all I'm interested in building a kit plane like many i have had to wait until later life/experience has shown that i might be able to build a kit aircraft and actually fly i did want to work or fly aircraft as a youth however my first starting point is cost implications and which kit plan to start with if you could assume these facts as my sign in suggests I'm not new to composites i have a background in f1 and military aerospace parts manufacture I'm not new to the Europa either ashamedly i might suggest the thing that has re inspired me into my childhood dream has been the programme 'a plane is born' and finally I did my work experience at the Europa factory when Ivan Shaw first started the project on the prototype and was the kind of lurking in the background watching what was going on whilst the team Dave terry Ivan and Andy put the thing together right from the molds to test flights as implied above i also asked about plans as i recall Ivan had a rutan designed plane which I'm assuming is also a similar jump into building could i also ask about the non technical aspects (construction) of how where to start flying regulations etc i have looked at the pfa already but can it really be that simple my apologies if this is directed more at the UK guys but i am located in the UK thanks Mike ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:09 PM PST US From: "Duncan McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" Nice to see Dave and Terry getting some credit at last for the prototype Europa! Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveD" Subject: Europa-List: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers > --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" > > >> I'm relaying this from the EuropaOwners Site, either Mike is not signed on Matronics or his post just beat his activation. Anyway if you reply he can see it on the forum. Steved. << > > From: COMPOSITEPRO > > Hi all I'm interested in building a kit plane > like many i have had to wait until later life/experience has shown that i might be able to build a kit aircraft and actually fly i did want to work or fly aircraft as a youth however my first starting point is cost implications and which kit plan to start with if you could assume these facts as my sign in suggests I'm not new to composites i have a background in f1 and military aerospace parts manufacture > > I'm not new to the Europa either ashamedly i might suggest the thing that has re inspired me into my childhood dream has been the programme 'a plane is born' and finally > > I did my work experience at the Europa factory when Ivan Shaw first started the project on the prototype and was the kind of lurking in the background watching what was going on whilst the team Dave terry Ivan and Andy put the thing together right from the molds to test flights > > as implied above i also asked about plans as i recall Ivan had a rutan designed plane which I'm assuming is also a similar jump into building > > could i also ask about the non technical aspects (construction) of how where to start flying regulations etc i have looked at the pfa already but > can it really be that simple > > my apologies if this is directed more at the UK guys but i am located in the UK > > thanks > > Mike > ---------------- > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:57 PM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: Re: TailWheel Mod --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" Mike, Ours is about 18" from center of rod end to center of rod end. It all depends on where the CS29 bracket ended up. BTW, there's been alot of comments on this forum about the tailwheel in general. Tony K has a mod for the steering cable attach points, says it makes it easier to control on pavement and Terry Seaver comments to limit the amount of angle the tail wheel can go through to give easier control on pavement. We're still debating whether to do either or both. Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW Just hung engine for final time! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:20 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" > Nice to see Dave and Terry getting some credit at last for the prototype Europa! Duncan, Who was Dave and Terry ? New names to me ! Cheers Kingsley Do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:51 PM PST US From: "Vaughn Teegarden" Subject: Europa-List: Grand Rapids EFIS clamav-milter version 0.80j on apophis.email.starband.net --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" Has anyone in the Europa fold installed and flown a Grand Rapids EFIS Horizon 1 in their panel? If so, would they be willing to answer a question? Vaughn Teegarden Trying to get it all done before closing the wings putting on the top. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:20:43 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: TailWheel Mod --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi all, I took a look at the modification for altering the ratio between the rudder deflection and the tailwheel movement for the Singleton tail wheel kit. I discussed this with Graham and on his advice I left is as is with the view to altering it latter if required. After a few flights I was getting on with it just fine with it so I left it. I know that others did not like it and changed it, but I would recommend that you start off on grass, migrate to pavement and if you still find it too much of a handful then back off the geometry. Just my 2 cents worth - Paul ----- Original Message ----- > Tony K has a mod for > the steering cable attach points, says it makes it easier to control on > pavement and Terry Seaver comments to limit the amount of angle the tail > wheel can go through to give easier control on pavement. We're still > debating whether to do either or both. > > Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW