Europa-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/22/05


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 02:08 AM - Fw: NORTH WEALD AIRFIELD - FLY TO NW AND SUPPORT US (David Joyce)
     2. 03:20 AM - Gascolator returns (Brian Hutchinson)
     3. 06:32 AM - Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (GrahamSingleton)
     4. 10:54 AM - Re: Gascolator returns (Paul Stewart)
     5. 11:21 AM - Fw: Emailing: oops (Fergus Kyle)
     6. 12:01 PM - East of England plan (Fergus Kyle)
     7. 12:14 PM - AW: Re: TailWheel Mod  (Europa (Alfred Buess))
     8. 12:18 PM - Re: Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (Duncan McFadyean)
     9. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (Duncan McFadyean)
    10. 12:49 PM - Re: Re: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers (Kingsley Hurst)
    11. 12:55 PM - letter 38 (Paul Stewart)
    12. 01:11 PM - Oops (Kingsley Hurst)
    13. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: TailWheel Mod  (Tony Renshaw)
    14. 04:32 PM - Re: Gascolator returns- Links (Brian Hutchinson)
    15. 05:40 PM - Re: Gascolator returns- Links (SteveD)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:08:22 AM PST US
    From: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
    Subject: Fw: NORTH WEALD AIRFIELD - FLY TO NW AND SUPPORT US
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> This seems like a thoroughly worthy cause for UK (or even continental) Europists to support and in view of free landing also a good venue for a DOTH. For those who haven't been there it is a great destination with fascinating left overs from its WW2 fighter past, and the airspace to get there , especially from the W is quite entertaining! Happy landings, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hopkins" <jdn.hopkins@virgin.net> <timh@pfanet.co.uk>; "Stuart Gane" <stuart.gane@tiscali.co.uk>; "Steve Smith" <stevesmith@comcast.net>; "Steve Jones" <steve@smj-acoustics.demon.co.uk>; "Simon Tolley" <xe664@stolley.fsbusiness.co.uk>; "Simon Eddison" <simon@rachelandsimon.com>; "Russell Thornton" <Russell-thornton@supanet.com>; "Roy Layzell" <RoyLayzell@aol.com>; "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>; "Roland Robinson" <roland.robinson@tiscali.co.uk>; "Roger Targett" <roger@targett40.freeserve.co.uk>; "Roger Lloyd" <trevannan@aol.com>; "Rod Ashforth" <rod.ashforth@virgin.net>; "Robin Morton" <robin@robinmorton.flyer.co.uk>; "Richard Thwaites" <richard.thwaites@dsl.pipex.com>; "Richard Osler" <richard@river-leys.fsnet.co.uk>; "Richard King" <richard@king-home.org>; "Richard Goodwin" <Richgoodwin@tiscali.co.uk>; "Richard Day" <rday@whsurf.net>; "Ray & Carol Lewis" <ray@drslewis.co.uk>; "Phil McNamara" <philip.mcnamara@virgin.net>; "Phil Hall" <phil.hall@troika-systems.com>; "Paul Wheat" <pswheat@taz.dstl.gov.uk>; "Paul Sweeting" <paul.sweeting@uk.ibm.com>; "Paul Keogh" <pk@witsltd.co.uk>; "Nouj" <nouj@compuserve.com>; "Norman Haines" <NormanHaines@Dial.Pipex.Com>; "Nicholas Dickinson" <nicholas@lhmplc.com>; "mikelloyd9" <mikelloyd9@btopenworld.com>; "Mike Leach" <mike.leach@btinternet.com>; "Mike Burden" <mike.abc@blueyonder.co.uk>; "Michael Fortescue" <mike@fortescues.freeserve.co.uk>; "Martin Soltau" <martin@soltau.flyer.co.uk>; "Manuel Queiroz" <MAJQueiroz@supanet.com>; "Ken Eastty" <ken.g3lvp@btinternet.com>; "Keith Day" <kgday@unidok.com>; "John Hamer" <hamerjl@ukonline.co.uk>; "John Bean" <johnbean@compuserve.com>; "Jeremy Davey" <jeremyda@microsoft.com>; "Jeff van den Broek" <vdbs@kemerton.fsnet.co.uk>; "Jeff Bartlett" <jeff@dyersmead.co.uk>; "Jared Oakley" <Jared.Oakley@btinternet.com>; "Ian Parr" <ian6859@aol.com>; "Ian McGugan" <ianmcgugan@yahoo.co.uk>; "Ian MacFadyen" <poacher3@aol.com>; "Ian Lang" <ian.lang@telinco.co.uk>; "Hamish Mead" <hjm@meadaviation.co.uk>; "Graham Vaughan & Son" <grahame.v@tinyworld.co.uk>; "Graham Banfield" <grahambanfield@aol.com>; "Gerry Nash" <gerrynash@supanet.com>; "Geoff Church" <Geoff@gchurch.freeserve.co.uk>; "Garry Layzell" <GJL6553331@aol.com>; "Frank Hawkes" <frank@stowick.com>; "FRANCIS BROWNSILL" <francis@brownsill.freeserve.co.uk>; "Ed Hicks" <EdHicks@compuserve.com>; "Derek & Sally Long" <derek@longys.fsnet.co.uk>; "DavidJohnstone" <dmfj@johnstone.kc3.co.uk>; "David Russell" <dvdsrussell@aol.com>; "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>; "Dave Roberts" <david.3.roberts@bt.com>; "Dave Organ" <dav@apexselfdrive.co.uk>; "Dave Haines" <davehaines@blueyonder.co.uk>; "Daryle Parsons" <phduk@ic24.net>; "Dari Sagar" <dari_sagar@hotmail.com>; "Colin Mitchell" <mitchellhc@btinternet.com>; "Chris Parsons" <chrisp@kwick.demon.co.uk>; "Chris Hopkins" <chris_hopkins@blueyonder.co.uk>; "Chris Harrison" <chrisat30west@aol.com>; "Chris Bates" <chris@chrisbates.co.uk>; "Chris Ball" <chris@oxlease.flyer.co.uk>; "Carol Lewis" <carol.lewis@freeuk.com>; "Bruce Naylor" <bruce@cpr-tech.co.uk>; "Brian Whitehead" <brianwhitehead25@yahoo.com>; "Brian Walker" <rbwstantone@aol.com>; "Brian Kear" <bckearfire@aol.com>; "Brian Kane" <BMK@CountyCheltenham.co.uk>; "Bill Allen" <bill@allenworld.com>; "Barry Simon" <barry_simon@hotmail.com>; "Barry Conway" <barry.conway@care4free.net>; "Ian Comley" <ian@comleys.plus.com> Subject: Fw: NORTH WEALD AIRFIELD - FLY TO NW AND SUPPORT US Dear Supporter ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry D'Eath Hughes ; Roger Burrows ; Rob Pritchard ; Paul Jackson ; Paul Bennett ; Nigel Bilton ; Nic Hart ; Mike Steward ; Mike Nice ; Mike Nairn ; Malcolm Cleveley ; Lorraine Walker ; Linda Smith ; Kelvin Woodard ; John Dunnett ; Joe Moss ; Jim Lawn ; Harry Hopkins ; Glenn Waters ; Ed Howard ; Derrick Brunt ; Clive James ; Andy Gorrod ; Andrew Castleden Subject: Fw: NORTH WEALD AIRFIELD - FLY TO NW AND SUPPORT US Dear Supporter FLY TO NORTH WEALD SUNDAY 6 MARCH! The North Weald Airfield Users Group (NWAUG) are delighted to announce that landing fees at North Weald are waived on Sunday 6 March! The NWAUG invites everyone to fly to North Weald, on that day, and will be holding a workshop so that you can lodge your objections to RSS 14 (the East of England Plan) to build 6000 houses on the Airfield. All the forms will be completed in advance, so all you need to do is sign and submit them. We will even post them for you! NWAUG members will be in attendance from 11.00 onwards to offer advice and a briefing will be held at 14.00, for visitors and local residents, which will last approx. 30 mins. You are then free to enjoy your hamburgers! Please help the cause! We need as many as possible to attend and make their views known. Please come along in even if you have already made submitted your objections. PLEASE NOTE - This invitation is for everyone - not just those with aircraft - so please join us however you wish to get here. PPR is not required! The Team at the NWAUG 20 February 2005 Doctors.net.uk e-mail protects you from viruses and unsolicited messages


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    Time: 03:20:06 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Hutchinson" <hutch@hangarbout.fsnet.co.uk>
    Subject: Gascolator returns
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Hutchinson" <hutch@hangarbout.fsnet.co.uk> Hi Guys, Many thanks to all who responded to my gascolator hatch query, in particular to David Joyce and Paul Stewart who sent/linked me to some pictures of how you did it. A picture says a thousand words! I just need to get down to preparing the mod leaflet to the PFA now! Cheers Brian Hutchinson Currently nibbling away at the cowlings... 357 Mono Sleaford Lincolnshire


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    Time: 06:32:14 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers
    From: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    2.60 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty --> Europa-List message posted by: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> > Nice to see Dave and Terry getting some credit at last for the prototype Europa! Duncan, Who was Dave and Terry ? New names to me ! Cheers Kingsley Kingsley, my ole! Dave Sanderson is Ivan Shaws oldest friend. Terry is his cousin. Dave built all the plugs, with help from Terry, among other things he is a skilled joiner. Somewhere I have a photograph (film) of Dave, who has a big red beard, sat astride the fuselage plug wearing a very convincing viking helmet. I did a little bit too, built a flap, leading edge of one wing, and had an opinion of the first cowling plug. (didnt look like a Long EZ) Jon Tye was the launch customer, he built the other flap and the same LE. When I get home from Ivalo next Sunday, give me a reminder and I will try and find it. Right now I am having a much needed lesson in how to use these space age tools. (confusers, iSMAQ PDAs and other things) Graham ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 10:54:24 AM PST US
    From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
    Subject: Re: Gascolator returns
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Brian If you let me have an address, I can send you a photocopy of my mod application. Not that it's perfect or anything, but it was enough for Francis. Regards Paul Stewart #432


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    Time: 11:21:31 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Fw: Emailing: oops
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> Subject: Emailing: oops | The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: | Shortcut to: http://www.micom.net/oops/ This, just in,,,,,,,,, Ferg


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    Time: 12:01:48 PM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: East of England plan
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> Good day, I understand that the above plan includes the destruction of one of the Battle of Britain airfields - North Weald. I have visited the airfield many times as aviator and historian, ahving flown the early jet fighters and as former Commanding Officer of 401 Fighter Squadron, Royal Canadian Air Force (now relegated to history because it does not have any French content) - a participant in the Battle and Canada's most successful fighter unti in WW II. I have also flown many tourists to England in 45 years of flying. As you may imagine, I was appalled to discover that the 'plan' provides for razing the field, and adding 6,000 houses as an alternative. Were it not for North Weald, there would be no need for the houses, as the Germans had no plans for them or their possible inhabitants in their conquest plan. Thanks to these fields - few of which remain - it is possible for the majority of 'planners' to exist. It would serve the history of Great britain and its former Commonwealth partners far better if the plannned houses were to be sited in Hyde Park, between Kensington Palace and Park Lane where little of importance to the very existence of the British people occurred. Turning your back on those who made you possible will snuff many thousands of tourist pounds from the coffers of nearby North Weald establishments - none of which will ever attract me to the UK again. Ignore vital history at you peril. Fergus Kyle


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    Time: 12:14:16 PM PST US
    From: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch>
    Subject: Re: TailWheel Mod
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch> Jim, Tony K's tailwheel plate has three attachment points: You can choose the ratio between rudder deflection and tailwheel deflection you like. I made a dwg-drawing of this plate and gave it to my laser cutter - nice result. If anyone wants a copy of the dwg-file, let me know, I will send it off forum as an attachment. Alfred Alfred Buess Laenggasse 81, CH-3052 Zollikofen, Switzerland Tel.: +41 (0)31 911 63 32, Fax: +41 (0)31 911 56 32 E-Mail: ykibuess@bluewin.ch Europa XS #097, Monowheel, Foam shortwing, Rotax 912S, Airmaster 332 CS -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Jim Butcher Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Februar 2005 00:13 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Europa-List: Re: TailWheel Mod --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> Mike, Ours is about 18" from center of rod end to center of rod end. It all depends on where the CS29 bracket ended up. BTW, there's been alot of comments on this forum about the tailwheel in general. Tony K has a mod for the steering cable attach points, says it makes it easier to control on pavement and Terry Seaver comments to limit the amount of angle the tail wheel can go through to give easier control on pavement. We're still debating whether to do either or both. Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW Just hung engine for final time!


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    Time: 12:18:06 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: RE: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> I think the "viking" picture may have appeared in the Sport Aviation article that appeared on the development of the prototype; c.mid 1990's, if anyone has the CD archives of SA. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: RE: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers > --> Europa-List message posted by: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> > > > Nice to see Dave and Terry getting some credit at last for the > prototype > Europa! > > Duncan, > Who was Dave and Terry ? New names to me ! > > Cheers > Kingsley > > Kingsley, my ole! > Dave Sanderson is Ivan Shaws oldest friend. Terry is his cousin. Dave built all the plugs, with help from Terry, among other things he is a skilled joiner. Somewhere I have a photograph (film) of Dave, who has a big red beard, sat astride the fuselage plug wearing a very convincing viking helmet. > I did a little bit too, built a flap, leading edge of one wing, and had an opinion of the first cowling plug. (didnt look like a Long EZ) Jon Tye was the launch customer, he built the other flap and the same LE. > When I get home from Ivalo next Sunday, give me a reminder and I will try and find it. Right now I am having a much needed lesson in how to use these space age tools. > (confusers, iSMAQ PDAs and other things) > Graham > ---------------- > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > >


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    Time: 12:20:48 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: RE: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Also substantial contribution to a certain twin engined Long Ez project, I understand. Duncan Mcf. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: RE: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers > --> Europa-List message posted by: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> > > > Nice to see Dave and Terry getting some credit at last for the > prototype > Europa! > > Duncan, > Who was Dave and Terry ? New names to me ! > > Cheers > Kingsley > > Kingsley, my ole! > Dave Sanderson is Ivan Shaws oldest friend. Terry is his cousin. Dave built all the plugs, with help from Terry, among other things he is a skilled joiner. Somewhere I have a photograph (film) of Dave, who has a big red beard, sat astride the fuselage plug wearing a very convincing viking helmet. > I did a little bit too, built a flap, leading edge of one wing, and had an opinion of the first cowling plug. (didnt look like a Long EZ) Jon Tye was the launch customer, he built the other flap and the same LE. > When I get home from Ivalo next Sunday, give me a reminder and I will try and find it. Right now I am having a much needed lesson in how to use these space age tools. > (confusers, iSMAQ PDAs and other things) > Graham > ---------------- > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > >


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    Time: 12:49:03 PM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Re: RE: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Thank you for the history lesson Graham. I have always been interested in how it all got started and marvelled at those who built the first Europa from scratch in only a fraction of the time it is taking me to stuff around. Makes me feel a bit inferior, believe me ! I always suspected you had a hand in it somewhere because of the fact that you knew all those involved. I take it Nev Eyre must have come along later ? Just last night I overheard my wife on the phone say to a friend that we are going to the UK and Europe next year. Can you believe that ? as the old adage goes, 'where there's smoke there's fire' so I must try to fan it along a bit ! Good to hear from you and be good mate Cheers Kingsley ----- Original Message ----- From: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: RE: Relayed: can anyone give me some pointers > Kingsley, my ole! > Dave Sanderson is Ivan Shaws oldest friend. Terry is his cousin. Dave > built all the plugs, with help from Terry, among other things he is a > skilled joiner. Somewhere I have a photograph (film) of Dave, who has a > big red beard, sat astride the fuselage plug wearing a very convincing > viking helmet. > I did a little bit too, built a flap, leading edge of one wing, and had an > opinion of the first cowling plug. (didnt look like a Long EZ) Jon Tye was > the launch customer, he built the other flap and the same LE. > When I get home from Ivalo next Sunday, give me a reminder and I will try > and find it. Right now I am having a much needed lesson in how to use > these space age tools. > (confusers, iSMAQ PDAs and other things) > Graham > ---------------- > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > > >


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    Time: 12:55:04 PM PST US
    From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
    Subject: letter 38
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> In the March popular flying Andrew Moore referrs to a 'letter 38' detailing detailing design criteria for instrument installations including the implications of installing electronic displays (page 35). It claims this letter is downloadable from the PFA web site - I can't find it. Anyone know where it is or know what is says? Regards Paul Stewart #432 - hoping I can still use my EFIS-1


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    Time: 01:11:11 PM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Oops
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Oops, I have finally done it ! Sorry folks, last message was meant to go direct. Kingsley Do not archive


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    Time: 04:16:58 PM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: TailWheel Mod
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Mike, Limiting the tailwheel movement..........thats interesting. I have fully castoring. It does however take a positive input beyond the normal full deflection to unlock. So, one day we'll see. Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia At 10:12 AM 2/22/2005, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> > >Mike, > >Ours is about 18" from center of rod end to center of rod end. It all >depends on where the CS29 bracket ended up. BTW, there's been alot of >comments on this forum about the tailwheel in general. Tony K has a mod for >the steering cable attach points, says it makes it easier to control on >pavement and Terry Seaver comments to limit the amount of angle the tail >wheel can go through to give easier control on pavement. We're still >debating whether to do either or both. > >Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW >Just hung engine for final time! > >


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    Time: 04:32:21 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Hutchinson" <hutch@hangarbout.fsnet.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Gascolator returns- Links
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Hutchinson" <hutch@hangarbout.fsnet.co.uk> To Stephan in Norway, Building aeroplanes is one thing... coping with this technology is another!. The stuff I received from David Joyce was an attachment to an e-mail sent to my own e-mail address (Off-Forum). I understand we can't send attachments via the Forum, so if you send me your e-mail address, I'll forward the information to you. The link from Paul Stewart was... http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album58&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php Hope I've got this right!!!! Brian Hutchinson hutch@hangarbout.fsnet.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Gascolator returns- Links > Hi Brian, > > I am just about to install my gascolator and fuel pump. > > As you say: "A picture says a thousand words". Would you be so kind and > send me your links? > > Thanks in advanced > > Best regards > Stephan > #556 Mono - Norway > > > ------------------------------------------- > This mail was sent through Freewave AS Webmail > http://www.freewave.no/ >


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    Time: 05:40:16 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Gascolator returns- Links
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Brian, Attachments are not allowed by Matronics but are allowed on the EuropaOwners Site. If you post your message on the website, at the bottom of the window is a choose file button. Click it and choose the file you want to send. The photo or files will post on the website and send a email with your text and links to your photos to Matronics. This is all automatic. On another note, I've also added some links to the links page: http://www.europaowners.org/links.php Basically its what I had bookmarked at home. If anyone would like to add to them go feel free. The links come to me for approval prior to appearing to keep out the spam..... Chat Later, Steved. ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/




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