---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/23/05: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:21 AM - Re: letter 38 (MR!PAUL MITCHELL) 2. 01:12 AM - Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings (Jeremy Davey) 3. 05:16 AM - Re: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings (Paul McAllister) 4. 05:52 AM - 914 Throttle (Jim Butcher) 5. 06:24 AM - Mod 61Question (EuropaXSA276@aol.com) 6. 06:32 AM - Re: 914 Throttle (Gilles Thesee) 7. 08:39 AM - Re: Mod 61Question (Jeremy Davey) 8. 04:12 PM - First Flight (Robert Berube) 9. 09:49 PM - Re: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel (Tony Renshaw) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:21:10 AM PST US From: "MR!PAUL MITCHELL" Subject: Re: Europa-List: letter 38 --> Europa-List message posted by: "MR!PAUL MITCHELL" Paul, PFA home page then Engineering down the left side then Information leaflets and 38 is last on the list. Paul Mitchell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" Subject: Europa-List: letter 38 > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart > > In the March popular flying Andrew Moore referrs to a 'letter 38' > detailing detailing design criteria for instrument installations > including the implications of installing electronic displays (page 35). > It claims this letter is downloadable from the PFA web site - I can't > find it. Anyone know where it is or know what is says? > > > Regards > > Paul Stewart > #432 - hoping I can still use my EFIS-1 > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.3.0 - Release Date: 21-Feb-05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:22 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: Europa-List: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Having fitted my Singleton tailwheel bellcrank, I=92m now looking at how to arrange the autopilot pitch servo =96 so I rigged up the flap drive tube and some string for the rudder cables. The rudder cable runs seem VERY close to the fuel tank fittings =96 and I was wondering if anyone else had had this, or is there some way of ensuring they don=92t contact? Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member =93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.=94 Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1320 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:58 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Jeremy, I put my cables inside some nyloflow tube and it has worked out fine. I ran it from the front up to the pulley then from behind the pulley all the way past the mass balance weight assembly. This is how the Vari / Long Eze's do it. I have been told that they don't even use a pulley. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" > > Having fitted my Singleton tailwheel bellcrank, now looking at how to > arrange the autopilot pitch servo so I rigged up the flap drive tube and > some string for the rudder cables. The rudder cable runs seem VERY close > to > the fuel tank fittings and I was wondering if anyone else had had this, or > is there some way of ensuring they dont contact? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:41 AM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: 914 Throttle --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" Could some of you share how you made the 100% detent on the throttle and how you made it adjustable. My ideas aren't working out too well!! Thanks Jim Butcher A185 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:41 AM PST US From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Mod 61Question --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Gents: I started work on the stall warner horn this weekend. The instructions say that the air tube should be installed through the flange of the forward rib BL102. The measurements given in the instruction , 1 3/4 from the W11 brackets completely missed the rib flange! I peeked through the holes after they were drilled. My guess is that it was a half inch miss to outboard.... Grrr Perhaps my rib is off? My guess is you want to drill through the flange for added support of the tube? Anyway I installed the air tube but used a syringe filled with redux / flox and pack a lot into the leading edge and spar area since I did not hit the rib flange. Also made sure the tube was at the proper angel on the leading edge. Do you think this will be OK with enough support for the tube? Anyone noted this problem before? Brian Skelly Texas Europa # A276 TriGear See My build photos at: http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:49 AM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 Throttle --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee Jim Butcher a crit : >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" > >Could some of you share how you made the 100% detent on the throttle and how you made it adjustable. My ideas aren't working out too well!! > >Thanks > >Jim Butcher A185 > > > Jim, Our project is not a Europa but an MCR 4S four seater. But the engine is a 914, and the following picture could be of interest. Sorry for the poor quality of the photo. http://gilles.thesee.free.fr/temp/DSCF1060.JPG The 100% stop can be clearly felt when advancing the throttle. The numbered lever is the cowl flap control, and the home made data acquisition connector can be seen in the background. Hope this helps, Regards, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France 15 happy flight hours performed to date http://gilles.thesee.free.fr ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:28 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mod 61Question --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Brian, Have you checked with Andy Draper? He can advise if your solution gives rise to a strength issue. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation. Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1320 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EuropaXSA276@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Mod 61Question --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Gents: I started work on the stall warner horn this weekend. The instructions say that the air tube should be installed through the flange of the forward rib BL102. The measurements given in the instruction , 1 3/4 from the W11 brackets completely missed the rib flange! I peeked through the holes after they were drilled. My guess is that it was a half inch miss to outboard.... Grrr Perhaps my rib is off? My guess is you want to drill through the flange for added support of the tube? Anyway I installed the air tube but used a syringe filled with redux / flox and pack a lot into the leading edge and spar area since I did not hit the rib flange. Also made sure the tube was at the proper angel on the leading edge. Do you think this will be OK with enough support for the tube? Anyone noted this problem before? Brian Skelly Texas Europa # A276 TriGear See My build photos at: http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:45 PM PST US From: "Robert Berube" Subject: Europa-List: First Flight --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" Bryan Long's Europa Serial A124, made its first flight Feb. 21 from Zephyrhills Airport in Florida with Lee Omernik at the controls. Aircraft is equipped with 914, Airmaster, conventional taildragger and full IFR. First flight was 30 minutes with no problems other than engine running a bit cool at OAT of 80 degrees. Bryan does not participate on the thread so I am including on his behalf. Bob Berube Flight Crafters ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:31 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw tank fittings Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw tank fittings Jeremy, About those rudder cables, sleeve them with Poly flo, or the other similar fuel line material in the Spruce catalogue. Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia At 08:10 PM 2/23/2005, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" > >Having fitted my Singleton tailwheel bellcrank, I=92m now looking at how to >arrange the autopilot pitch servo =96 so I rigged up the flap drive tube and >some string for the rudder cables. The rudder cable runs seem VERY close to >the fuel tank fittings =96 and I was wondering if anyone else had had this, or >is there some way of ensuring they don=92t contact? > >Regards, >Jeremy > >Jeremy Davey >Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA >Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative >PFA EC Member >=93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is >possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.=94 >Tail done >Standard XS wings with mods underway >CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) >1320 build hours to date >Intended fit: >Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop >Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms > >