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1. 01:53 AM - Re: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings (John Cliff)
2. 02:27 AM - Re: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings (R.C.Harrison)
3. 02:51 AM - Re: Re: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings (David Joyce)
4. 04:25 AM - Re: Re: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings (Jeremy Davey)
5. 07:21 AM - North Wield (David Joyce)
6. 10:12 AM - Rudder push rod (Fergus Kyle)
7. 12:34 PM - Re: Rudder push rod (GrahamSingleton)
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff" <mx@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
> Having fitted my Singleton tailwheel bellcrank, I=92m now looking at how to
> arrange the autopilot pitch servo =96 so I rigged up the flap drive tube and
> some string for the rudder cables. The rudder cable runs seem VERY close to
> the fuel tank fittings =96 and I was wondering if anyone else had had this, or
> is there some way of ensuring they don=92t contact?
As as alternative to enclosing the cables in Nylaflow tubing, one or two people
have installed extra tufnol rubbing blocks to hold the cables clear of the
scenery in the tank tunnel area.
John Cliff
#0259
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| Subject: | Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! John
The use of spiral cable wrap is also less likely to catch any water but
I think the water and freezing is a long shot anyway, I still have dust
in there where I couldn't vacuum out. You don't have to put the spiral
wrap on prior to installation also since you can wind it on.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank
fittings
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff"
<mx@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
> Having fitted my Singleton tailwheel bellcrank, I=92m now looking at
how to
> arrange the autopilot pitch servo =96 so I rigged up the flap drive
tube and
> some string for the rudder cables. The rudder cable runs seem VERY
close to
> the fuel tank fittings =96 and I was wondering if anyone else had had
this, or
> is there some way of ensuring they don=92t contact?
As as alternative to enclosing the cables in Nylaflow tubing, one or two
people
have installed extra tufnol rubbing blocks to hold the cables clear of
the
scenery in the tank tunnel area.
John Cliff
#0259
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Jos, My rudder cables go in nylon tubing thru wheel well and under tank, as
do a lot of others and a similar system is +/- universal in gliders. 3 yrs
of flying in all weathers & temperatures, including a trip round upper
reaches of Mont Blanc, hasn't produced a suspicion of a problem. I suspect
that even if water did get in, the non-stick nature of the nylon surface
together with the high load tolerance of the rudder system would mean that
it wouldn't cause any real problem. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank
fittings
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
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> My tank did not end up exactly in the middle. The result was, that the
starboard rudder cable was touching the tank. I decided against the tubing
option because i fear water collecting in the tube. Freezing water will
cause a stuck rudder consequently. So i added a second pulley wheel at the
end of the tunnel in the cockpit module, which also does the job.
>
> Cu,
>
> Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | RE: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank fittings |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
I just wanted to thank everyone who has helped with this problem. It's good
to know it's so easily fixed - and while it's comforting to know I'm not the
only one to experience it, perhaps that isnt such a good thing!
Cheers, guys!
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1320 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank
fittings
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Jos, My rudder cables go in nylon tubing thru wheel well and under tank, as
do a lot of others and a similar system is +/- universal in gliders. 3 yrs
of flying in all weathers & temperatures, including a trip round upper
reaches of Mont Blanc, hasn't produced a suspicion of a problem. I suspect
that even if water did get in, the non-stick nature of the nylon surface
together with the high load tolerance of the rudder system would mean that
it wouldn't cause any real problem. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Rudder cables look very close to the fuel tank
fittings
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
>
> My tank did not end up exactly in the middle. The result was, that the
starboard rudder cable was touching the tank. I decided against the tubing
option because i fear water collecting in the tube. Freezing water will
cause a stuck rudder consequently. So i added a second pulley wheel at the
end of the tunnel in the cockpit module, which also does the job.
>
> Cu,
>
> Jos Okhuijsen
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Those of you who, like the eloquent Fergus, would not like to see N. Weald
disappear under a mass of new housing will find protest letters ready for
you to sign and email to the Planning Consultation Team at:
www.northwealdairfield.org. The deadline is 16 March so please do something
about it now. David Joyce
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
To whom it may concern:
The following remarks are in reply to a question about Graham Singleton's
mod PFA 10371 which uses the original pushrod to add to the revised longer
tailwheel spring mod.
I lost the query message regarding the above subject and made a point to measure
the requisite parameters next time. I suppose being late in reply it's redundant,
but wanted to appear keen:
The simple rod length (no ends 14 inches
add the rodends AN490HT8P shoulder-shoulder 14-1/4 inches
distance twixt endfitting centrelines MW4 18 inches
Strangely enough these distances are measured to the nearest mm, in situ,
give the requisite 30deg either side travel, and permit about 3/4in in rod
length change if required - that is, the rodends and fittings are at mid-range.
Cheers,
Ferg
A064
sandingsandingsanding
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| Subject: | RE: Rudder push rod |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "GrahamSingleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
The simple rod length (no ends 14 inches
add the rodends AN490HT8P shoulder-shoulder 14-1/4 inches
distance twixt endfitting centrelines MW4 18 inches
Strangely enough these distances are measured to the nearest mm, in situ, give
the requisite 30deg either side travel, and permit about 3/4in in rod length change
if required - that is, the rodends and fittings are at mid-range.
Cheers,
Ferg
Fergus,
and anyone still reading this thread, Don't forget there are several variables
which affect the eventual length of the rod, bulkhead position, sternpost position,
width of the flanges etc. and of course the position of the CS29.
Start at 17 inches and cut back in degreasing increments. It is easy to slip the
rear end fitting in and try it, then swing the rudder out again hanging from
the top hing screw, cut a bit off and swing it back.
Graham, still smiling from watching an Aurora outside Jos' place in Lappland!
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