---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/26/05: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:52 AM - Panel Labels and placards (Gerry Holland) 2. 05:32 AM - A fat spat (Peter Rees) 3. 06:16 AM - Re: A fat spat (Fred Fillinger) 4. 08:24 AM - Re: A fat spat (R.C.Harrison) 5. 04:02 PM - Fitting SCAT tubing. (Paul McAllister) 6. 04:33 PM - Re: Fitting SCAT tubing. () 7. 04:52 PM - Re: Fitting SCAT tubing. (Tim Ward) 8. 05:08 PM - Re: Fitting SCAT tubing. (Cliff Shaw) 9. 05:13 PM - Re: Panel Labels and placards (SPurpura@aol.com) 10. 06:57 PM - Re: Fitting SCAT tubing. (Robert Berube) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:16 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Panel Labels and placards From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Hi to all! Just some general information regarding panel Labels and Placards for those planning that phase of build. I had played around with a neat Brother label Printer I had and got some really good external labels for my Europa using industrial strength labels. When it came to the Panel and interior placards it became a little fiddly with different sizes of placard and print which inflates the price because of varied stock required so.... I found from one of the other Aircraft lists some recommendations for a Company in the US who produce durable labels. Located them on the web, made contact, placed an order and the output arrived today. They are excellent quality, exactly what I specified and delivered right on time and price. The great thing is that you can provide your design or template requirements in anything from AutoCAD DWG Files to a scrap of paper with sketch and dimensions marked up. I did mine as Computer sketches and output file as a PDF and then the transition was made on receipt at Engravers. The price for 13 varied size placards and near 200 characters was $70.00 including Post and packing. The Company is Aircraft Engravers at http://www.engravers.net. Contact name: Wayne. Full details: Aircraft Engravers 112 Canton Rd Granby, CT 06035 USA Phone (860) 653-2780 Fax (860) 653-7324 E-mail info@engravers.net Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. PSS AoA Fitted. http://www.g-fizy.com Mobile: +44 7808 402404 WebFax: +44 870 7059985 gnholland@onetel.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:44 AM PST US From: "Peter Rees" Subject: Europa-List: A fat spat --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" I'm in the process of fitting the nose spat but have noticed that the right hand side (viewed from in front) bulges due to the size of the axle nut. The nut (along with the washer and spat mounting bracket) cause this side to stick out about 5mm more than the other side such that the spat looks terrible. Would it be OK to grind the axle nut (and axle bolt of course) from its current size of about 13mm to say 9? As far as I can see, the nut is there to keep the axle bolt in place and the assembly under the correct tension to stop the wheel from wobbling - it shouldn't need to be as big as it is. Peter G-MFHI ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:18 AM PST US From: "Fred Fillinger" Subject: Re: Europa-List: A fat spat --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" > Would it be OK to grind the axle nut (and axle bolt of course) from its > current size of about 13mm to say 9? As far as I can see, the nut is there > to keep the axle bolt in place and the assembly under the correct tension to > stop the wheel from wobbling - it shouldn't need to be as big as it is. > > Peter > G-MFHI I only had to cut off the bolt to achieve a fit in a smallish, aftermarket fairing I scrounged and modified with glass and matching polyester resin to make it pretty around the big swivel thingy. As far as "thinning" the nut, I'd observe that production A/C of twice the gross weight use an axle shaft of about 1/2 the diameter of that monster bolt, and hence a comparatively tiny locknut. Reg, Fred F. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:13 AM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: A fat spat --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Hi! Peter. I thinned mine down some for the same reason. However if I recall correctly the nut is a "nylock" type with a nylon self locking insert, and to grind it down will likely cook the nylon so I carefully used a hacksaw. But to ensure a clean cut at the thread I first established at what length (plus one thread clear to stick through the nut when tightened) the bolt needed to be then put it into a vice and hack sawed to length cleaning it with a file. Then trial fitted the nut(Opposite end to the nylon) to clear out the start thread of the bolt. Then remove the nut and hacksaw the nut to the required length making sure the face is flat and square to the axis. If it were a nut and bolt without the nylon I'd cut both nut and bolt together so both threads are cleaned by subsequent removal of the nut. All IMHO of course! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa 337 MKI/Jabiru 3300. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Rees Subject: Europa-List: A fat spat --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" I'm in the process of fitting the nose spat but have noticed that the right hand side (viewed from in front) bulges due to the size of the axle nut. The nut (along with the washer and spat mounting bracket) cause this side to stick out about 5mm more than the other side such that the spat looks terrible. Would it be OK to grind the axle nut (and axle bolt of course) from its current size of about 13mm to say 9? As far as I can see, the nut is there to keep the axle bolt in place and the assembly under the correct tension to stop the wheel from wobbling - it shouldn't need to be as big as it is. Peter G-MFHI ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:29 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi All, I am trying to fit some 2" SCAT tubing to one of those 2" flanges sold by AC Spruce. I can't get the darn stuff to slide on more than 1/2". if that. Is there a trick to working with this stuff ? Thanks, Paul ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:52 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. --> Europa-List message posted by: Yep, a healthy burst of 4 letter words and a little WD-40 or teflon spray helps. Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Subject: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" --> Hi All, I am trying to fit some 2" SCAT tubing to one of those 2" flanges sold by AC Spruce. I can't get the darn stuff to slide on more than 1/2". if that. Is there a trick to working with this stuff ? Thanks, Paul advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:08 PM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" Paul, Cut back the wire inside, the required length and then slide on the 'wireless' tube with the help of a bit of soap. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > > Hi All, > > I am trying to fit some 2" SCAT tubing to one of those 2" flanges sold by > AC Spruce. I can't get the darn stuff to slide on more than 1/2". if > that. Is there a trick to working with this stuff ? > > Thanks, Paul > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:01 PM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Paul I had one I needed to take off and reinstall regularly, so I crimped the aluminum to make it a slight bit tapered. Worked OK then. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:01 PM PST US From: SPurpura@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Panel Labels and placards --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com I HAD A TROPHY SHOP MAKE MINE, PRICE WAS REAL GOOD. SAM N77EU ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:41 PM PST US From: "Robert Berube" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" When using ducting to fit the aluminum flanges, it works best to use Sceet as it is lined on the inside and slips over the 2 inch flanges very easily. Bob Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Shaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fitting SCAT tubing. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Paul I had one I needed to take off and reinstall regularly, so I crimped the aluminum to make it a slight bit tapered. Worked OK then. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE